How To Flatten a Twisted Board By Hand

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How to flatten a board by hand with a scrub plane and jointer plane. hand plane method.
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@justplanebob105 5 месяцев назад

I'm really glad you made this, James. I've only used my scrub plane a couple of times and I thought I was doing something wrong the whole time. It's like planing a gravel road. And it's hard to push. Watching and, more importantly, hearing what it sounds like when you scrub the wood, reassures me that I did ok. I'll try it again now. Thanks!

@danielfasang4983 5 месяцев назад

Yeah the scrub plane sure sounds like it's only being sharpened every few months😂. But that's the reason I love those chanel it's not all razor sharp and silky smooth but the real deal. I had a similar experience with my chisels, I thought I made a bad purchase until I heard James say that no edge lasts long when you're chopping out a mortise in oak.

@tomjkelleher 24 дня назад

That was a very helpful demonstration of when & how to use each plane. Thank you.

@johnkelley9877 Месяц назад

After watching this tutorial I finally understand how to flatten a board! Your explanation was great and clarified and lot of misunderstandings I had on this. Thanks for sharing this tutorial.

@Grant2406 4 месяца назад

Watching this, I now understand why some of my boards start out of flat, become flat, then end up being out of true. Thank you, James. Detailed and concise as always.

@andrewjohnson9610 16 дней назад

You should try doing that with harsh low angle light and a camera angle so that you're pushing towards us so that people can really appreciate how deep the scallops are, and how they disappear with the jointer's passes.

@kentonward97 Месяц назад

I made one of my number 4’s a scrub plane and works really well.

@MillerWB87 27 дней назад

This was VERY HELPFUL!

@shakatibu 3 месяца назад

With that scrub plane you can really take the twist DOWN BELOW 😂❤

@Gobagool 5 месяцев назад

Comment down below! But seriously, you have some of the most informative hand tool videos. Thank you very much!

@TheOriginalAndBestTim 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for another great video. I know many people say "you don't need a foreplane" but I absolutely love mine - I had to clean up a load of very rough lumber and found it a breeze to clean up with my number 6,

@Fusion_Woodworking 5 месяцев назад

I made a pair of whining sticks, and they wouldn’t stop complaining about one always being closer to me.

@youhaveamonkey 4 месяца назад

I recently got a scrub plane after years of resistance to it. There is nothing like it. It’s kind of like the draw knife of planes. It removes a remarkable amount of material fast.

@robertdavis171 5 месяцев назад

I was always under the impression that "Tried and True" came from trying a maneuver and finding it worked, although that is pretty much what you're saying with tyring (try-square) and true (straight). My less woodworking centric understanding can apply to anything from greasing a bearing to taking medicine for a headache.

@tommoeller7149 3 месяца назад

Tried and true. Nice!

@user-io9ln1or7c 23 дня назад

Thank you much Sir.🎉

@spaceinvader332 5 месяцев назад

Thank you I feel much more confident now that I'm not removing to much or to little material

@captainnapalm8207 5 месяцев назад

This is my comment down below. There are others like it, but this one is mine.

@steveshapland8846 5 месяцев назад

FEWTELL, the secret to stock preparation. As you say, you justcovered the firsttwo steps:Face, Edge

@DetroitSicilian 5 месяцев назад

Thx James!

@gungle24 4 месяца назад

Love my scrub plane, an old wooden one from Germany, very light and nice to use.

@thomasalton2804 5 месяцев назад

Very informative! Thanks very much

@kennethnielsen3864 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing.

@cbryantbear6498 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!

@JimHill-hp5of 5 месяцев назад

Amazing how that scrub plane magically changed. I blinked and missed it, then watched that section a couple of times. Apparently an advanced skill

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Ok you got me on that one. What happened. I want to see it.

@JimHill-hp5of 5 месяцев назад

Right at 2:29 the plane in your hand magically changes. Visually interesting, likely an editing cut..@@WoodByWrightHowTo

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Lol I did not see that in the edit. I switched but didn't mention it. LOL apparently didn't realize it from One clip to the next when editing LOL

@markhalvorson4631 4 месяца назад

I thought I was just crazy

@jonmccormick6805 5 месяцев назад

Thank you, Rex Krueger for passing on that info.

@ibdavidc 5 месяцев назад

When you were talking about the length of the plane gliding over low spots that it all made sense for the first time. I received a lot of planes from my wife's grandfather's estate, and am slowly fixing them up. I need to finish that and start using them, so thanks too for all the refurbishment of old tools. You would be perfect if you'd just get a better source for your dad jokes... 🙂

@salimufari 5 месяцев назад

This is a great tutorial on how to get from even as rough as a fresh froe cut bit of firewood down to a plank ready to finish.

@Arboreal_Fungi 5 месяцев назад

So simple this way, Thanks!

@LewHarriman 5 месяцев назад

Terrific summary. Clear, complete, but not too much detail. Thanks very much, James.

@PedroPereira-ut6pp 5 месяцев назад

I like how james hits the really big high spots of flatening a boad! Cheers mate

@billrockefeller5409 4 месяца назад

Great learning video!!

@scottswineford6714 5 месяцев назад

Well presented James

@nickmastro9287 5 месяцев назад

Very helpful instructional video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@dpmeyer4867 5 месяцев назад

thanks

@Apillicus 5 месяцев назад

Great timing. I was scrubbing and jointing thin stock last night for a dresser

@cliffwood7386 5 месяцев назад

Great summary - I'll definitely be using this order of operations when I explain how to flatten a board.

@Heseblesens 5 месяцев назад

Very good presentation of the flattening process using scrub plane, jointer and smoother. 👍🏻👏🏻 And not to worry - you do not need to include anything from Rex to make the videos interesting 😂…but the tried and true fact was quite good! Thank you James…and Rex 🤭👌🏼

@ssrattus 5 месяцев назад

Thanks James

@MCsCreations 5 месяцев назад

Really excellent tutorial, James! Thanks a bunch! 😃 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@robohippy Месяц назад

No snide remarks from me. I had wondered about the popularity of the smoothing plane. One problem with the jointer planes, 6, 7, and 8 sizes is that to take a deep cut, that requires a lot of brute strength, and even if I am on the Brute Squad, I don't like working that hard.... I tend to favor a very light cut with the jointer planes and don't have to use a smoother. I may have to experiment with your method..... I do want 'perfectly' flat surfaces. I got spoiled with a drum sander, and I had to slide the pieces/panels sideways first to pick one off the top. They were perfectly flat.

@robertberger8642 5 месяцев назад

Life goals: make a board “flat as a board.”

@user-oi5xy8xv4z 4 месяца назад

Great video! Tank you

@DanielSmith-yu9wq 5 месяцев назад

Good video. I've tried making boards from downed trees that I find in the forest. They always come out very rough looking, because I'm doing it in camp with very few tools to work with. You gave me some ideas that might help them come out a little nicer. Maybe I won't have to keep listening to Twisted Sister.

@american_patriot6218 5 месяцев назад

Great lesson

@Blackys-Boy 5 месяцев назад

Well done! I heard (and read) this process explained many times but none quite so succinctly.

@nodarikirtadze8220 5 месяцев назад

Nice, I'm making windig sticks right now so they should help a lot

@lorenclifton110 5 месяцев назад

Really enjoy your channel. Thank you!

@lanecobb4150 5 месяцев назад

I have four different scrub planes and a #5 & #6 with nice shallow chamfers on them. They are my most used planes.

@marcbarash6045 5 месяцев назад

thanks James, hoping the move is going well.

@cfraschetti 5 месяцев назад

Excellent! Thank you.

@dennismarjamaa6805 5 месяцев назад

Great video, James!

@funhousefibers 5 месяцев назад

This was so helpful, thank you!

@hassanal-mosawi4235 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing that!

@jimmtheballs 5 месяцев назад

I just started a new job where we make single-piece slab tables. I'm coming off zero experience and they get me working straight away. I had to deal with a twisted board about 45mm thick. But they don't use hand tools. I had to use a belt sander (also to sand the face) and boy oh boy, I did not know the power of that machine. The valleys I created! Fixed it up on day two though. Anyway, I wish I had watched this video before I went to work! Thanks for the tips. Also, you would absolutely love what's sitting around here. Once I'm in, I'll ask about taking the off cuts and see if there is some Japanese zelkova or, highly unlikely, some yakusugi I can send you. Take care :)

@rjg6139 4 месяца назад

I struggled trueing edges with twist. Applying a similar board flattening method to thin edges was a headache because the geometry of a jointer plane traversing a twisted edge combined with a cambered iron made spot planing difficult. I got on much better with a straight iron applying pressure where it needs to be. Chasing 90° on a twisted edge while maintaining a straight edge is something I've not seen explained much on RU-vid. I'd like to see your order of operations. Thanks!

@tryingagain14 5 месяцев назад

Thanks James. Only problem is you just inspired me. I've got a piece of apple i chainsawed rough coup,e of years ago. Think I'll start flattening one side. Then I'm going to cheat and use my planer for side2

@michaeldoto4673 5 месяцев назад

Nicely done James! No need for a snide comment as RU-vid will just scrub it out 🙄🙄

@J.A.Smith2397 5 месяцев назад

At it again

@multicoloredwiz 5 месяцев назад

Snide remark!!!

@PJRayment 5 месяцев назад

Here's my snide comment: At the start of the video, you set up the situation where the board was twisted AND too thick. What if the board is twisted but already the right thickness? You didn't explain how to fix that! I think you're not able to address the hard questions! Seriously, I enjoyed this video and learned some good information.

@paco_vazquez 5 месяцев назад

Tried and true video, excellent explanation as is tradition from this smooth channel

@dsmith1167 5 месяцев назад

So, are we going to get a video on the plane swap magic trick you pulled off at 2:29? That seems like a really useful skill.

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Lol I forgot I put that in there 😂

@emerald1587 5 месяцев назад

Thank you for this great scrub in practise explanation. What I wonder is, how do you ensure the jointer is set to take about 0.03" while a smother is set to 0.001"?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

You can see, feel and even hear the difference in shavings

@williambranham6249 Месяц назад

The initial chamfering sounded painful.

@tarbucktransom 5 месяцев назад

Comment down below

@lelandallen 5 месяцев назад

I'm tired and true. Does that count?

@davejackson5989 5 месяцев назад

Great video! What kind of iron is in your No. 4 smoother?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

That is a ZenWu iron.

@martingiordano7616 5 месяцев назад

CDB

@myerscok 5 месяцев назад

Great video - thanks for posting. Flattening with planes doesn’t look so scary now. I haven’t got a jointer yet. What size plane is a jointer? Ken Myerscough, Southport UK

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

When it comes to the names of planes it has more to do with how you use it and then the actual plane. But most people consider a six and larger to be a jointer

@imortaldeadead 5 месяцев назад

Comments down below

@ianbennett5245 5 месяцев назад

Snide remark down below.

@bobbenzuly7893 5 месяцев назад

Another great vid, James. Hope the move went well

@sal1964 5 месяцев назад

Do you have a video on making winding sticks?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

I've got a few videos showing that. But most of them are older I might need to redo the one sometime. Here is one. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wfVp9D8mg_c.htmlsi=r1xjRFzgRgUUXKkq

@sal1964 5 месяцев назад

@@WoodByWrightHowTo thank you

@Franco.Ar. 5 месяцев назад

Comment, down above

@kd5tmu 4 месяца назад

Newb here trying to get some tools on a budget before starting my first project. Do you recommend a scrub plane for someone in my situation, and if so, which?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 месяца назад

Generally no. Unless you plan on doing a lot with rough sawn wood. In that case get an old junkie plane and modify it into a scrub plane.

@bigpoppajeff 5 месяцев назад

Hope the move is going well or went well

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

We're in the house now. But I'm not going to start getting the shop set up for another couple weeks

@bigpoppajeff 5 месяцев назад

@@WoodByWrightHowTo congratulations

@markhalvorson4631 4 месяца назад

Any recommendations for holding twisted wood still and level without a vise? I’ve tried using shims with some success, but they often fall on the floor, allowing the wood to rock

@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 месяца назад

You can run screws into the bench top or sacrificial board and let the heads stick up by the amount of twist.

@rays5163 5 месяцев назад

Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but instead of the chamfer to prevent blowout can't I just turn the board around so I'm always working towards the center?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Yes. That is very doable!

@DanielCShomo-wo5zh 5 месяцев назад

Good vid, I am a rookie, and just got some planes. What kind of finish can you use on a surface that smooth.

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

You can use any finish you want. They'll have different pros and cons.

@williambranham6249 Месяц назад

There is a finish called TRIED AND TRUE. It is primarily a polymerized linseed oil. Seems appropriate.

@pettere8429 5 месяцев назад

Comment up above!

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Someone's always got to hold their phone upside down LOL

@pettere8429 5 месяцев назад

@@WoodByWrightHowTo nah. I'm just a bit subversive.

@TheDesertSkier 5 месяцев назад

What plane are you using for your scrub plane?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

In this case I was using an actual scrub plane from stanley. The number 40. But I turned the number five into a scrub/fore plane

@ryanstieglitz8077 4 месяца назад

Comment down below.

@rjstandland4459 4 месяца назад

How to remove the smile from a wooden bord

@imathebron 5 месяцев назад

I find it very difficult to plane the edge of the board square to the face. Any secrets or is it just practice, practice, practice?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

It is a bit of skill development, but it is focusing on just hitting the high spots

@floredak4361 5 месяцев назад

Hi there, At this point I have a question that always worries me. Is it normal that, when we say that I have planed the whole of the board in this size, that the planes become dull? The cutting edge of the iron bends upwards. The plane no longer has traction and in front of the chip breaker the chips look like a scraper. With woods like teak or rosewood, this happens after what feels like half an hour. I find this worst on the Nr. 5 low angle. However, I only grind to 3000 grit, without the ruler trick or micro bevel. I think the sharpening works quite well and the edge is really good. Is this normal or should I sharpen the edge more? Sorry my English is not the best, I hope you understand what I mean. Greetings from deepest Bavaria. Florian

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

It all depends on the wood you are using and how good the steel is on your iron but for hardwoods like rosewood that's not uncommon at all to have to sharpen it every board.

@memilanuk 5 месяцев назад

Some woods - like teak, especially - have a high silica content that can be absolute murder on hand tool edges. Sharpening more often is just part of working with those materials.

@MemphisCorollaS 4 месяца назад

Comment down below ⬇️

@toshn4151 5 месяцев назад

What jointer for a beginner? Lie Nielsen is $500, Veritas is $400, chinese premium (like wood river) is $369, indian premium (taytools) is $150, vintage is $150-$200 (but I don't know how much work it is to tune such a thing). ECE wood ones are $250. Vintage transitionals are really cheap, like well under $100. I'm leaning torwards wood so it's not as heavy? Though I'm not seeing any japanese planes that are nearly as long...

@orbitalair2103 5 месяцев назад

I got the taytools #6, works fine. Good plane.

@floredak4361 5 месяцев назад

I would suggest a 6 Stanley antique. You will learn a lot from your planer during the restoration, respect her and look after it. When buying, pay attention to the iron itself, there must be no rust on it. They work really well, new 6 and 7s can't be compared in terms of weight and handling in my opinion.

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

That is all a personal preference. You can buy an antique for around 50 to $60 at a tool meet, and that's usually the direction I tell people to go. But some people like something to be fully set up and ready to go. A lot of other people really like the feel of a wooden plane. So in the end it just kind of comes down to personal preference.

@johnschmidt2766 4 месяца назад

A few “influencers” have made negative comments about #6 planes. So I found one for under $10. A bit of work (even new planes need work), it’s taking beautiful shavings. It a great substitute for a 7 and a 5. I also have a 3 and a junior jack (5 1/4) because they were inexpensive. These work well in lieu of a 4 or whatever. I also don’t have a scrub, but I think I could get the board flat maybe 30 secs slower by just do some swipes high corner to high corner. I am always somewhat surprised at how quickly a board can be flattened with hand planes. All plane irons need be sharpened often various RU-vid show how to do that quickly and inexpensively.

@drpickle9817 5 месяцев назад

Ok so hear me out something like a card scraper but also on a 90 degree angle like a square?

@ricos1497 5 месяцев назад

What for? I can't see a use for it if I'm honest. When you're jointing an edge, and have done this more than a few dozen times, you can pretty much feel when it's square (your fingers on your forward hand will usually be dropped below the sole of the plane, in contact with the board below and you very quickly learn to guage the angle). Given that a jointed edge will generally not be that thick (the thickness of the board, I mean), it's rare that you need to scrape unless in the case of a severe knot, and even rarer that the scraping will be enough to bring the board noticeably out of square in that small particular area. I don't think you'd ever be in the position to use a right angled scraper to bring a board into perfect square. If you were struggling for square, you'd be better off just putting a fence on your jointer plane.

@Keithmwalton 5 месяцев назад

How to keep it from not moving again overnight?! Twisted boards always seem to wanna move again because of the uneven amounts of material removed

@WoodByWrightHowTo 5 месяцев назад

Usually the amount of movement is well within the flexibility of the wood but if you're working in a high humid change environment you may want to hold off on flattening until you're ready to do your joinery.

@Keithmwalton 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I have tried lately to do as much of the project as possible right after final dimensioning. As some one with some physical limitations it can be deflating to put time and effort into flattening a board, be exhausted at the end, rest and find it to be cupped the next morning 😡

@twistedhillbilly6157 5 месяцев назад

For obvious reasons, I am a little concerned about this. How was it determined that the board no longer wanted to be twisted? There some that embrace it as a lifestyle...

@danielfasang4983 5 месяцев назад

Comment

@billmoody9736 5 месяцев назад

comment and snide remark

@tomarmstrong1000 5 месяцев назад

Tried and true comment down below

@terrychristian672 4 месяца назад

Ok, novice at planing. Can you define the numbers of these planes you’re describing such as planer, scrub and smoothing?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 месяца назад

Sorry. I'm not sure what you mean by the numbers. Most planes have a name and a catalog number. Catalog number 1 through 8 are bench planes and then after that they are in order of when Stanley released them.

@terrychristian672 4 месяца назад

@@WoodByWrightHowTo , I meant, a 5-1/2, or a 4 or a 62. All these plane numbers. How do they tie to your descriptions?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 месяца назад

The sizes don't have direct connection to the names. Name is what you use the plan for. Usually a smoother is somewhere between a three and a four and a half. The 5 and 1/4 up to the six is usually referred to as the jack. The six or the five and a half is usually referred to as a four plane but only when it has a heavily cambered iron. The 62 is a low angle Jack though some people use it as a smoothing plane. The scrub plane on the other hand can be just about any plane a lot of people will turn a four or five into a scrub plane. Though Stanley made the number 40 which is a dedicated scrub plane.

@terrychristian672 4 месяца назад

Thank you. What number was that giant long, planer you used in the video?

@WoodByWrightHowTo 4 месяца назад

There is no nom er for wooden planes. That is actually a Cooper's plane.

@johncallender6677 5 месяцев назад

Comment down below 😂

@tobiasfrancisco5879 5 месяцев назад

Sir! please use reliable sources for your publication. Who is this Tex Kluger? 🧐🧐🧐 I nearly dropped my monocle. (Stuffy British accent) Post script: being facetious if it wasn't clear.