Definitely helps man thank you :) Do you have any knowledge for programming to help a combat athlete who uses a lot of strongman and CrossFit movements?
@@mrsmuuveI had some lingering back pain from 2 hernias, 1 from 15 years ago and 1 from 3 years ago, everything i did helped but still some small small pain now and then, after stumbling on a random video on yt, where it told me that backpain could come from a weakly activaded glute muscle, so by flexing it for 3 sets a couple of times a week, my pain went away, and most lifts went up or was easier.
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My experience with back pain: When I was lying down and couldn't get up because of back pain, I tensed my abs. Then I was able to do the first exercise of McGill's big three. After I was able to stand up and walk, I started doing bending over while resting my gluteal muscles against the wall. Then I was able to bend without support. Then with weights in my hands. Then I started doing RDLs. And then I got to the deadlift.
I have a strong back, but my job involves standing for 6-9 hours, 4 days a week, frequently bending/leaning forward, lifting, twisting, etc, so I will get a good deal of axial fatigue just from my job.
Sleeping on the floor fixed all of my back issues and improved my Deadlift and squat PRs. It takes a couple of days to get used to it rather than to your comfy bed but trust me it's so worth it.
happy to see back pain content from back guy. I started lifting partially to help with back pain so this video hits close to the heart (the spine, specifically)
I suffered from back pain because I was overweight. Once I started lifting and lost weight, it still remained. It got worse when I lifted a trap bar by standing OUTSIDE of it (I just wanted to move it out of the way). I will definitely work on my core now!
There is a lot of good information in this video, but at the end I think you end up drawing the wrong conclusions. The back is not weak with the individuals who experience back pain. If that was the case all of the people who doesn't train should be experiencing back pain. It would also not explain why some athletes and strenght trainees experience back pain, even though they are much stronger than the general population. You need to look more at psychosocial factors. A bigger confidence in your ability to use your lower back both explains why a short period of back training seems to help, and why they have dyskinetic movement of the spine initially during training. Fear avoidance behavior plays a big part in back pain and the symptoms of back pain. Overall I think you severely simplify the issue by leaving out psychosocial factors and only use biological factors from the biopsychosocial model. At the end of the day using the spine and being physically active are one of several things that is good to implement to have a pain-free back in the long run, so your advice is not wrong, but in my opinion your explanation model is. And that's potentially detrimental to the prognosis of the patient regardless of the intervention you opt for.
Thanks for the feedback bruther. I've cited the general literature on the matter of rehabilitation, and yes, psychological factors definitely play a role, although the literature behind that is very poor comparatively speaking, and fear of movement itself seems to mostly affect rehabilitation and the re-training process to combat back pain, not necessarily the back pain itself, unless you have some recent strong articles that say otherwise. And yes, even in an athletic population, trunk weakness and instability is still the primary cause of back pain, although in a different context where they utilize higher loads, and is often also generally caused by poor fatigue management. Again, I'd love to see some research backing your argument. Great discussion.
And just one more thing to clarify current research; there isn't a single study which seeks to improve long term non specific back pain that sees improvement in function and pain reduction without also increasing muscle strength in that area, I also wrote my bachelors degree on this. Yes, patient care should always be individualized, but the research on this matter is very clear.
@@BackGuy muscle strength is only one part of a very complex puzzle when it comes to LBP and any pain in general d/t the importance of psychosocial factors that ALWAYS need to be considered when rehabilitating this condition. Emphasising only muscular strength will eventually lead to a dead end because what happens when a patient has a flare up? Does that mean their muscles got weaker and they need to get stronger yet again? What happens when the average person (majority of the population) who isn't always prioritising improving strength which becomes very difficult to do once you reach certain genetic limits still experiences flare ups? This is why it very important for a physical therapist (like myself) to emphasise education and pain management strategies to reduce disability which is a more realistic metric given that pain is always subjective. Pain is typically an inflammatory response to some form stress be it psychological or physiological, I recommend you read Peter O'Sullivans work into this area where he looks at the psychological effects of movement apprehension on pain perception and explores the idea of cognitive functional therapy. At the end of the day there is no one size fits all approach to reducing pain, most literature compares a physically active group vs a non physically active group and come to the conclusion that more movement = less pain and yes muscle strength certainly has a role to play in that. BUT, they often neglect the other side effects of exercise such as the release of certain anti inflammatory hormones that can improve mood. The information you provide in the video can be helpful if muscle weakness is present which is difficult to accurately identify in LBP, but like the original comment states, you've left out some key information. I'm a fan of your work and hope you don't see this as me trying to discredit your opinions in any way.
Why did they not let both groups train and educate one, I mean isn't it kinda obvious that those that make the active change will have better results, and in would it not be more interesting to see the contrast to those that are informed and might have a better understanding of their problem?
I may have misspoken, or you may have misheard. They had 3 groups in total, one control (no exercise or edu), one exercise only, and one exercise group with extra education.
One thing you could do is put a pillow under your knees and a smaller pillow under your low back while you are sleeping, and if you happen to sleep on your side make sure it's on your right side, you can still put that small pillow under your lumbar spine and then put the other pillow between your knees
That can definitely relieve back pain and a great tool for those who struggle sleeping because of it, but it fortunantely won't fix the underlying causes :(
I have back pain that hurts when I sit, when I stand in a static position for too long. I cannot do squats, bent over rows, deadlifts, or overhead press because of it. I would love to get back to those exercises but everytime I think I'm feeling good and try them it comes back
I'd start off with simple exercises, like a laying back extension, move over to hyperextensions over time. Take your time and build capacity, also, if you don't know alrdy, learn how to properly brace during heavy lifting!
yeah I didn't exercise for two years and I got a lot taller without having my back muscles built to support my growing torso and it literally tilted my torso when I went to the doctor she told me to exercise my back to stabilize my torso
I always bragged about never having back pain especially lower back pain. Especially my 10 years in the military. Now I have upper back pain and a kink/knot/scar tissue in between my shoulder blade area. I feel like I need a medieval torture rack to decompress me 😅😢
… interesting. Thank you. How, convenient. I’m trying to fix my back pain now after a while of ignoring it. Interesting timing. Law of attraction? Higher power? Whatever it is, thanks! Also thank you funny back man.
@@BackGuy This is so crazy to me. I've been to many doctors because of back pain. I've also been going to the doctor's because I've had really bad tendonitis. They all told me to just rest and wait it out. After taking a long break from the gym and realising that it won't heal by itself, I thankfully met a really good physiotherapist who advised me to work on it by strengthening the muscles and tendons. My pain is pretty much completely gone now. It's a shame so many doctors still stick to those outdated beliefs. Could've saved me (and many others) months of pain if doctors took a more active approach in healing injuries like this.
@@pandakuchen2299 Honestly, doctors in general have virtually zero knowledge on musculoskeletal pain and diseases, especially sports injuries and such unless you go to an expert on the matter. It's unfortunante, but their competence on this matter is often outdated
@@BackGuy I wouldn't expect a general practitioner to have a lot of in depth knowledge. But not even Orthopedics who specialised in sports medicine could help me. Here's to hoping that med schools update to newer literature soon. Anyways, thanks for the convo. This is all so interesting. I'm majoring in psychology but in my next life I will be a physiotherapist. Lol
