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Appreciate the video and techniques used but I'm with "team sharp". As long as the sharpness isn't the result of software - mobile phones for example - I'm all about the sharpest look I can get from the camera and lens combination. If specific scenes need to be blurred for any reason you can always do that in post but you cannot make a blurry video sharp. You have good skin Harv, no need to soften anything! 😄
I gree. Just because old cinematography could not be sharp (small film fornat size, grain etc) does not mean that unsharpness is undesirable. If people want their videos to look like old film then that's up to them but I want to see how things look in real life not as in an old cinema.
@@Megalobatrachus There is nothing sharp about real life... That's why most filmmakers who want to shoot movies or short films ( including most Hollywood cinematographers) prefer the old school cinema look because it looks real. If you prefer super sharpness in your projects then that's your artistic vision, no criticism there... But my point is, don't refer to it as natural or real looking, because our eyes don't see UHD sharpness... And the reason many filmmakers (myself included) hate it is because it can look too digital and therefore unrealistic.
Solidly in team sharp too, I don't see the point in having gear that can achieve crystal clear sharpness to then tweak things to make them blurry. Doesn't make sense to me...
Love the video and the science behind it, I also prefer to remove absolutely every sharpening in-camera, but for 99.9% client work (at least for me) this thing we do is extreme pixel peeping that no client will notice or care about, (again, just my own experience), great vid !
Personally I prefer I slightly more vintage, filmic look, so I use Black Magic cameras which, from the start, have a more filmic feel; use vintage lenses; use a Black Pro Mist filter on my modern lenses; reduce any digital noise and replace with a more organic and pleasing film grain. The net result is a very natural image that leans more towards the feeling of 16mm and 35mm film. The secret is not to overdo each step, and let the cumulative steps gradually push you in the right direction.
Let's make an exchange. Give me your a7sIII and I'll give you one of my camera which, without any of those expedients, gives you the results shown. Think, it shoots in HD and you don't even have to change resolution! Seriously, the sharpness it is always better to adjust it post; the pro mist filters help because in addition to attenuating the sensation of detail, they return a nice effect on the bright areas or lights in the scene
Ah but is sharper better? I often find that the footage I see from arri cameras looks really natural/not overly sharp. I think the points in this vid should be carefully cherrypicked and definitely not used all together 😄👍🏻
@@HarvVideoAudioStuff I totally agree with you. But it is interesting to see that we might have peaked in the 'perfect digital look' we can get with today's cameras, and that we might want to tone this down a bit. As you demonstrate perfectly here. The same for smartphone cameras. Some produce extremely sharp images, with details 'everywhere'. But does it look natural? I think 'natural' looks will be the winner over time.
Good one, great topic. Shooting in B/W gives you loads more latitude to play with vintage lenses, as chromatic aberration isn't an issue. If I remember correctly, David Lynch shot an entire movie with a stocking on the back of the lens. Also changing the spacing between lens elements can produce a lovely effect, some vintage large format lenses do this, but it's also incorporated into the Nikon DC lenses (Defocus Control).
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Interesting. I think the softer edges you get from stopping down to t1.8 or lower allows for better subject selection. With those landscape shots where every things equally sharp, it causes a tension. Where I don't really know where to concentrate my gaze. Which isn't pleasant.
Hi thanks so much for the very relevant ideas. As a baseline would you use 2 of the techniques together - reducing detail setting and the 1/8 mist filter or just one of them?
Thanks for a great video. For me, the main thing to get rid of are the black lines that form around the edges of objects with a lighter background. I would like to retain the detail but eliminate the black edges. Have you tried to change any of the settings down in the detail menu? I will be checking these out. Crispening?
Hi, mate. Really appreciate you bringing up the digital look on sony cameras, I thought no one really care about it, until I saw your video, I am a sony user, the digital look on sony is really annoying, I also tried everything I could to reduce the sharpness, but at the end, I found that it was not only because of the sharpness, the bmpcc 4k/6k their images are very sharp and detail as well, but the highlight rolloff and the color rolloff just way more natural than sony, every time I compair the image between sony and bmd, I felt like the sony image just like dslr/mirroless still camera's pictures look. I love the cleaness of a camera, like arri, super sharp and clean image, but it doesn't have the digital look, I am not a fan of vintage or old glass, just want a natural clean and sharp look, unfortunately, sony can't give the natural look.
I shot a video and forgot to reduce the sharpness now it’s done messed up my footages, it was so late before i discovered the sharpness was on 7 and i short on Canon MarkIV What can i do please #Urgent
Note to myself: Sharp image is no good anymore. Time to sell my super-expensive glass, and substitute it with lenses purchased with bag of chips in convenience store . Go figure...
It’s so confusing. Have the manufacturer confirmed that “zero” is including digital sharpening? Are you absolutely sure that (-7) is NOT in camera softening?
Assuming this isn’t a joke, yes we are 100% on this. We know this because comparing the raw output direct from the sensor, footage looks the same in terms of detail (albeit not noise!)
i don't understand.. sharper looks better to me... I do a lot of film photography, and the pictures come out sharp. The digital look I think it's more contrast and color related and yes, some cameras add artificial sharpening, but true sharpness I think it's good, especially if it comes from the lens. I use a sigma 16mm on my Sony and I like it BECAUSE it's sharp. Film has "softer" colors, not sharpness. At least in my opinion.. Also, in your video, the 0.48 shot looks nice and 4k (a little artificially sharpened) but the 0:50 shot looks blurry and 1080p.. (at least on my 1440p monitor). Maybe on a 1080p monitor it looks good.
