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New and updated Early Game Legendary Difficulty Playbook to help you get started as Ma Teng in the 190 Rise of the Warlord start for Total War: Three Kingdoms.
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@YeOldePodcast
@YeOldePodcast 3 года назад
I really wish that CA would make a huge pack of new generals, making them all unique. There are so many excellent and interesting characters that deserve the spotlight. Pang De is such a cool dude, and to be lumped as a generic character with a forgettable background? Such a shame. I would definitely pay £10 just to have loads of new characters.
@valguero0478
@valguero0478 3 года назад
Use mods like make them unique
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 11 месяцев назад
@@valguero0478Modders shouldn't be fixing the game for free, we paid like $70 base game, they are a million dollar company and can't make like 20 more portraits?
@lemur1347
@lemur1347 3 года назад
I was just about to play a Ma Teng campaign so this is awesome to see! I just started playing 3K and you have quickly became my favorite youtuber to watch 3K content
@NTLuck
@NTLuck 3 года назад
I think the Qin were the first to follow that route. Today Shu, Tomorrow the world :)
@braize6279
@braize6279 3 года назад
Qiang units are just broken OP. Unlimited charge on shock cav is just devastating, and hella fun to play. And if you manage to get Sun Ce or Lu Bu to join you it's just disgusting. Ma Teng campaign is pretty difficult to get going, and can take quite a few turns that may seem "wasted" as you build up. But you get to see your investments pay off over and over as the game goes on. You always see progression as you play this faction, and it's very rewarding
@sjwoo13
@sjwoo13 3 года назад
Ma favorite faction. Nothing beats qiang marauders. Especially if you get lubu and sun ce. 800 charge, fatigue resistant 0 upkeep 0 cost shock cav. Won a campaign with nothing but qiang marauders.
@PanderusW
@PanderusW 3 года назад
When not playing as Ma Teng, I value the Ma Chao twice as much as some of the other unique vanguard is because of his 2 initial Qiang units. If somehow manage to get Sun Ce as PM, you has 2 units of 500+ charge damage, never get tired killing machines.
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 11 месяцев назад
balanced gameplay
@ennosigaeum
@ennosigaeum 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this guides! I'm learning so much from them!
@felisenpai9625
@felisenpai9625 3 года назад
Great guide as always I think It's time to go back to the old ways and start my most optimized campaign as ma teng since it was my first true campaign I played in 3k
@sorenvongruner2592
@sorenvongruner2592 3 года назад
the upkeep goes also down with the faction rank up :)
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
right for only one of the tiers though but yes that will help too
@Eskeletor_210
@Eskeletor_210 3 года назад
I like how you can play as him In MoH, though you are neutral to beigongboyu
@steliokontos3935
@steliokontos3935 3 года назад
It's a bit slower to start, but if you're willing to have Ma Teng and the army hang back and let Pang De do literally everything in the first two battles of Turn 1, he can reach Lv.3 by the end of the Wudu siege. And then on Turn 2, you can flip your entire army (as much as you can afford) to Qiang Hunters and have a good ol' time harassing Gong Du's starting army from 250 range. It's not as economically stable as your start... But it's more fun. I mean, if you're going to play as Ma Teng, then why even bother with infantry?
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 11 месяцев назад
Abandon infantry return to horse.
@Winnverine
@Winnverine 3 года назад
I must resist playing Ma Teng until Pang De is a unique lord.
@jwahnmike
@jwahnmike 3 года назад
Well MTU mod made him unique, so I guess you can try that out
@GeneralHellsing
@GeneralHellsing 3 года назад
Use the mod from workshop called wu kingdaissance it adds probably 100 new characters minimum
@Winnverine
@Winnverine 3 года назад
*Dev Update Drop: Me: Well shit, looks like I'm downloading the mod.
@samsara5214
@samsara5214 3 года назад
@@GeneralHellsing i could never get WU to work fully. Really wanted to see the difference between that and MTU but for some reason it never really worked for me 🧐
@GeneralHellsing
@GeneralHellsing 3 года назад
@@samsara5214 Weird were you running it with the other kingdaissance mods?Or were you trying to run it with mtu mods
@Ghostprototype_II
@Ghostprototype_II Год назад
Man, I love your videos!
@janmajnik6889
@janmajnik6889 Год назад
I watched this full video! Then 2 days later I started a Ma Teng campaign on hard and completely misplayed so many things because I watched 10 hours of your generic 3K tutorial with Cao Cao and thought it was smart to disband some of the army on turn 1 to save money and then after taking the first town Gong just attacks me and I have 2 generals and 2 spear units. Yikes. :D Also I messed up the building order. Time to restart the campaign... :D your guides and knowledge are amazing. This game is overwhelming for new players, so thank you for making these vids.
@janmajnik6889
@janmajnik6889 Год назад
Development: I left Han Sui alone and we are good friends still, and not attacked any Han factions at all but rather go south for the tribes where I had a lot of fun with Qiang hunters since tribes don't have cavalry and non walled settlements. At first it was easy peasy but eventually I learned that miasma debuff is a bitch. Nonetheless my army comp is Ma Teng, his wife and his 1st born daughter (forgot the names). The lvl 10 horse archers with his wife buffs are insane. Also I discovered a cheese strat where you can attack a full garrison town (when it's not an open battle), burn down towers, pelt the low armor units with my archers, then retreat and then load up another battle. Rinse and repeat. In some other total war games your army goes away from the settlement when you retreat but here they stay put and you can just engage again and replenish ammo. So actually a really fun campaign. Then I will go north to help Han Sui with the pesky looters and yellow turban. Liu Bien is at my door as well which is kinda scary.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
seems like you have discovered the cycle siege cheese (you can also do it with trebuchets)
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 11 месяцев назад
@@SeriousTriviaIs it cheese thou? I imagine they probably did just throw all their ammo at something then took a small rest and then went at it again IRL.
@FizbanMagic
@FizbanMagic 3 года назад
tried following this but gong du just ignored the ambush and went south to the pass and on to baxi. very odd!
@chordal9939
@chordal9939 3 года назад
Ah yes, reminds me of the free recruitment cost and free upkeep OP Qiang cav days. Still strong af tho
@tric5122
@tric5122 2 года назад
The addition of looter faction in this game, in this area is absurd, you are guaranteed at least 1x a year to have a full stack come out of nowhere and and you'll be dealing with it with 2 armies, then healing them up just in time to deal with another full stack of looters again.
@zhaoqijie
@zhaoqijie 3 года назад
with the new patch 1.7.1, let's do a Yuan shu guide!! he is really hard to play at early game
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
he will be next week!
@hardtofindnames4648
@hardtofindnames4648 3 года назад
Yuan shu area is gonna be a impenetrable stronghold once you grind liu biao and his vassals into dust thanks to the addition of a lumberyard for Nanyang Strong economy, strong generals in xu huang and ji ling and an heir in sun ce, and a possible vassal and a trade partner in shangyong. And Many allies thanks to his special diplomatic option.
@catalinbostan3542
@catalinbostan3542 2 года назад
39:00 I hate when that happens *No no no,you can't kill us,there's 1 guy across the map* It's even worse when that guy reaches the border and the rest of the unit is immune.. 53:10 Yea,it's the melee evasion. I've been convincing myself that Champions need less Authority and Cunning and get more Expertise,whereas Vanguards get more Authority but less Expertise. It's the reason Zheng Jiang is near garbage against any other General in duels... She's built more towards the vanguard type like Lu Bu,yet she has the worst ability in the game,Binding Fury,which should be 30 seconds CD. Flames of the Phoenix totally wrecks Binding Fury in both duels and freaking unit wipes. 3.8K dmg per Flames Phoenix at 30 seconds against Binding Fury 7.8K dmg at 60 seconds,Binding Fury has near no range and it can miss easily if they're not in duels or worse...my god,it can be melee evaded...
@dzzykzzy8683
@dzzykzzy8683 3 года назад
You get one Yuan Shao executed because of forts and then realize how excellent encampments can be when the foolish AI happens lol
@calvindao576
@calvindao576 3 года назад
So, rather than head back to attack my city for the ambush, Gong Du always heads to Jiameng Pass to colonize it instead. What's the difference in what we're doing?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
you should then want to ambush them outside that pass. You can either reset you economy by disbanding your troops and wait to properly have a full army or you can try to ambush them outside the pas with the army at hand.
@ZinbaForLife
@ZinbaForLife 3 года назад
I think Liu bei just fits with ST’s economical style.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Tax the world ;)
@bw1678
@bw1678 3 года назад
Would love to see your take on Yuan Shu 190. AWB is fine since you already have Wu Jing and freakin' Sun Ce giving you legitimacy, but 190 you have absolutely nothing. Ji Ling doesn't join via event, so you will just stare at him in your pool without any legitimacy to hire him with... Not to mention that damn Familial passive replacing Nature's Ally. Your daughter doesn't even have it, so what are you supposed to do, hope Yuan Tan decides to be a turncoat?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
He is next week!
@Pickatimatrina
@Pickatimatrina 3 года назад
I think with all the new map changes we need a new Dong Zhuo guide. You could also combine it with how to use the new emperor mechanics with the Dong. As my playstile is always very aggressive and the emperor hates me in every campaign 🙈
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
we already did a Dong Zhuo guide. The map change really doesn't affect his start though...
@spartanassassin5839
@spartanassassin5839 3 года назад
Tutorial on how to form the Matengolia Empire 101.
@arbiter7x
@arbiter7x 3 года назад
almost 600hrs into this game and i've never seen that dueling animation of one guy taking the other's weapon and tossing it back, is that a new one added by this latest patch?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
its always been there for polearm versus polearm.
@kamilliani1989
@kamilliani1989 3 года назад
A grande stategia! It's impossible to repeat after you with defeating Gond Du when he's camping and then retreats to his land. You are not consistent mr. Serious and you know it.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
what do you mean? I done this start probably more than five times and I can beat him down every time...you can beat him in the first battle right? if his retreat path is back to his land, then just chase him right away...
@kamilliani1989
@kamilliani1989 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Thank you for the answer! ;) After he rans from a camp and me chase, then win on his territory, there's no movement lelf, both of us stuck on his territory, so what comes next turn is just regret and grief. Instead at the start I rolled some good weapon, recruited Hua Lanli and changed units to the shield and spear ones - that was the only way of continuing my dao of delegating
@TheReaperOfChess
@TheReaperOfChess Год назад
Do you have videos on what hero abilities and such to go for when upgrading the generals and their units? Unbreakable is a no Brainer and a few other moral and fatigue ones but there are some others... should generals have a mix of items to up each different stat or should we just put all instint items on the red guys and resolve on green or whay
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
Stats don’t have that great of a multiplier and honestly will not do a lot for you. Go for the active abilities (especially damage or morale ones). There is a much more detailed character build guide on each class if you search the playlists
@ProfWeeb248
@ProfWeeb248 3 года назад
Hello again, master ST! Ma Teng's faction is one that interested me right off the bat, so I'm happy to see this guide. I know you've done a campaign for him in the past (I plan on watching it soon), but I was wondering... Have you considered doing a Ma Teng "Restore the Han" campaign? His position regarding the rescue of the Emperor is interesting and he's a Governor faction, so you should be able to do that on 1.7.1, right?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
with so many factions I haven't played yet I might not repeat one for a while
@ProfWeeb248
@ProfWeeb248 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia That's entirely fair. Just figured I'd ask~
@LacayoSolorzano
@LacayoSolorzano 11 месяцев назад
I’ve conquered China starting as Ma Teng already but your videos are great! Curious to see your starting strategy and how it differed from mine. Side note: Ma Chao lived to almost 80 years old in my campaign 😂 His son ascended the throne but Ma Chao conquered it all.
@user-ss2pz5bi9n
@user-ss2pz5bi9n 3 года назад
Watching this made me want to replay Ma Teng. I started in the same era as you, but my Ma Teng started with flexibility and reach. I thought starting character's skills were set or can you reroll them?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
They change them from patch to patch and maybe you were on a different start date?
@caocalo2485
@caocalo2485 3 года назад
Thanks
@Halocon720
@Halocon720 4 месяца назад
Unfortunately this strategy doesn’t seem to work for me-Gong Du always beelines for Jiameng Pass and bunkers down there, refusing to attack me and going south
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 4 месяца назад
Then just expand without him bothering you. His first battle is usually the hardest part of this campaign and if he doesn’t attack you in your case then all the better
@mdtexeira
@mdtexeira 2 года назад
In my playthrough, Gong Du didn't come back to the west and instead grabbed Jiameng Pass. :(
@KaiserTepes
@KaiserTepes 3 года назад
Nice start guide :) Did you continue to do others starts for the rest and all DLC ?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Yes there is a playlist of all the ones I have done so far and a new one comes out every Wednesday
@thedream3401
@thedream3401 3 года назад
In my playthrough Gong Du always runs thorwards gatepass in second turn and sits there forever, even when i try to bait him with my weaker army he is still sitting there, what to do :D?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Split your army and ambush one and show the other to bait him over
@TheReaperOfChess
@TheReaperOfChess Год назад
Hey man idk why but the game runs smooth until I click end turn and then it just lags like no other even crashes sometimes... no issues in battle or anything even coming out if it's my turn. It isn't bad if it's not it's laggy stutters and etc please help me
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
It’s your cpu. Load screens and end turns take the most cpu for the game.
@TheReaperOfChess
@TheReaperOfChess Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia are you sure I have a decent cpu but I am upgrading soon. I just didn't think my cpu and motherboard upgrading will do anything but I'm getting both upgraded
@TheReaperOfChess
@TheReaperOfChess Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia I also run it on an SSD I hope that isn't the issue. And I would assume it has to be either the motherboard or cpu. I haven't had issues until recently with most this stuff.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
It sounds like the cpu most likely because I had similar issues with an old system years back when the cpu burned out
@TheReaperOfChess
@TheReaperOfChess Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia you think it might be burned out? Hmm I'm upgrading but the one I have now is a B450m Pro-f
@xmixaplix
@xmixaplix 3 года назад
Ahhhhhh it's happening 😈 On a side note I realized the higher tier the capital goes up, it gives commerce and peasantry % money but if we don't build farms or have those other settlements that offer commerce/food is it even worth upgrading the capital? Am I mistaken to think those bonuses also effect the adjacent settlements? 🤔
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
it give flat peasantry and percentage commerce. I mean you are really upgrading to unlock the level five upgrades and the last two building slots. Those are just extra bonuses
@xmixaplix
@xmixaplix 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia so do those bonuses only effect buildings in those unlock slots or the entire commandery?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@xmixaplix only in that commandery
@xmixaplix
@xmixaplix 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia nice as I thought 👍
@sebastianbjorkqvist8422
@sebastianbjorkqvist8422 3 года назад
I have a serius question sir. how do u handle the looters as ma teng when u fight cao cao and yuanshoas coalition, im at turn 78 i belive and i didn't care to kill of liu yan but instead han sui, fighting of dong min until liu bei maid him vassile. i have control of emporrer .
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
you have to keep an army there or abandon the idea of holding wuwei
@sebastianbjorkqvist8422
@sebastianbjorkqvist8422 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia thx for the quick answer, keep up with ur good work :)
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 Год назад
Is that Roar the idea for Cia Xun's Roar in the Heavenly Sword and the Dragon Saber Wuxia series?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
I mean the roars are based on Zhang Fei's roar in the novel. If anything the roar from Heavenly Sword and Dragon Saber would take inspiration from these roars since it was written much much later
@bydand_76
@bydand_76 3 года назад
Enjoyed the video as do like a Ma Teng campaign. Quick question though, what would the plan be when Ma Chao becomes of age? Make him heir and placate the wife with a court/administrator position and titles ?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Yes that’s the perfect way to do it or you can even divorce her, move her off and while she is extremely mad at you, use her as marriage bait to get say Cao Ren then just see her leave while you get to keep Cao Ren ;)
@bydand_76
@bydand_76 3 года назад
That is brilliant, honestly would not of thought about marriage bait, have got over 300 hours on 3k, still don't understand some of the mechanics but always learn something new, when watching your vids..... keep up the great work mate 🙂
@janmajnik6889
@janmajnik6889 Год назад
Can someone please explain to me why Liu Bei is freely taking han empire territory while still having 100 standing with the emperor and not being at war with the Han Empire. Note that the Han Empire is a vassal to Cao Cao and Cao Cao is allied with Liu Bei. Still don't see the logic. Now the Han is not vassal anymore and you have 3 duchies with cao cao, liu bei and sun ce. The first 2 like me and they are stronger. Should I try to ally them and attack Sun Ce? (Duchy of Wu) he hates me anyways
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
He has a mechanic with his unity resource where he can spend unity to take Han land peacefully so it’s not an attack and thus does not hurt his standing
@janmajnik6889
@janmajnik6889 Год назад
@@SeriousTrivia oof. I should know that since my 1st ever campaign was with him but that was 2 years ago :) thx for the answer. Liu Bei OP :D
@thatoneawkwardfriend919
@thatoneawkwardfriend919 3 года назад
Hi is ma teng Allied to dong zhuo because on the map they are blue and if so when did they change it to being allies
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
nope. You are just allies with Han Sui
@thatoneawkwardfriend919
@thatoneawkwardfriend919 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia ok then why does the map on the loading screen show them as allies
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
very good catch! it must be a mistake as you are also not at war with Yuan Shao either
@thatoneawkwardfriend919
@thatoneawkwardfriend919 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia thank you
@sjwoo13
@sjwoo13 3 года назад
You're not a vassal either, so that's really weird. I assume it's to show how he holds the emperor so by default you are technically a vassal? Kind of weird.
@93kingu
@93kingu 3 года назад
Excellent video, thank you! @ST (or any other experiences player). What faction would you recomment playing for the 190 start for a player of my style other than Cao Cao or Lie Bei? My weakness is managing economy - not terrible, but my find myself in trouble with too many enemies (no trade partners) often. My strength is on the battle field. I excel in most cases even when outnumbered - using hiding/flanking tactics (no looping, etc). I enjoy the battlefield, but not fighting like every other turn. I like setting up a future enemy for his/her downfall. Any suggestions for a new)ish) player with good commanderies to assist economically?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
If you are looking for naturally great commanderies to carry you then probably Sun Jian would be the way to go. Not many trade partners available for you anyways and most of the southern commanderies are top tier
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
or I highly recommend Zheng Jiang. Once your war prowess nets you some demand tribute, you don't have to worry about commanderies ever again
@93kingu
@93kingu 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Thank you so much! I'll try both out!
@93kingu
@93kingu 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Ok, so test runs over. Absolutely Sun Jian, no huge issues. Alsmost too easy in some areas (avoid the west for a while lol). However, I tried Gongsun Zan and wow! An excellent fit for my style. Key was ignoring some early game quests and forcing Gongsun Du to the North to attack by rushing the trade port. Once he did attack (and he will, ran that multiple times), wipe him and immdeiately ally with Liu Bei and Cao Cao (if possible, if not Liu Bei may attack and/or Cao Cao will; scheme against you) and work to destroy Yuan Shao (after the other factions blocking). This is a big hand shake with Cao Cao as he love enemies of his enemies lol! Tough battle with Yuan Shao, but with some tactics, ambushing, etc. not so bad. Afterwards, I began allying with those opposing Cao Cao and went to war, eventually after a lot of commandery building (trade ports, horse pastures [bad ass for this faction's leader]), convinced Liu Bei to become a vassal and the rest is history. However, Sun Ce in the southlands is the issue as he was alloowed to grow virtually unopposed. I should be able to contend with him after some more diplomacy, trade deals, and a 6th full stack of legendary generals, along with a slight push further SW. Of course, that was way oversimplified, but...Thanks again ST
@maskdanger
@maskdanger 2 года назад
Ma Teng dying of old age impact his buffs on cav right?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
if he is no longer there then the background bonus is gone too
@maskdanger
@maskdanger 2 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Thanks for your quick reply that explains a lot my campaign was harder after he died and Yuan Shao and his vassals were a pain in the ass 😅
@Jacobs9991
@Jacobs9991 3 года назад
Any research tree to reduce upkeep even more?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
There are a free red reforms that reduce recruitment but I don’t think anything changes upkeep
@Jacobs9991
@Jacobs9991 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia What about Hierachial Enfoffement?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@Jacobs9991 guess there is one lol
@88makayo87
@88makayo87 3 месяца назад
Do you chase gong du
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 месяца назад
It’s optional. If you want to push and eliminate him for good then you should go for it. If you don’t mind him coming back later with a big stack and just want to focus on economic development early then no you don’t want to waste resources and time chasing him
@88makayo87
@88makayo87 3 месяца назад
@SeriousTrivia thanks soo much man I was stuck ok back at it now thanks
@alirezasobhani3101
@alirezasobhani3101 3 года назад
Don't generals get fatigue immunity? 🙁
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Just your Qiang units
@chrisalves8614
@chrisalves8614 8 месяцев назад
Generic Pang De just isn't right
@PrimeChaosVC
@PrimeChaosVC 3 года назад
No wonder you said battle is boring, if I play like you, everything is boring.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
then don't play like me lol
@PrimeChaosVC
@PrimeChaosVC 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia Agree. The way you play is really shitty.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@PrimeChaosVC much like the comments you write I guess lol
@PrimeChaosVC
@PrimeChaosVC 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia nope you are good at exploting the ai. Thats all. nice tricks though. But not really playing the game. Nice tricks.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@PrimeChaosVC my stance is that if it gets patched, it is an exploit or else it is just a feature. What is the point of showing honor to an AI when real wars aren't fought with honor or rules. Whatever gets the job done basically.
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