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How to Get Started as Zhang Yan | Early Game Legendary Difficulty Playbook Patch 1.7.1 

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New and updated Early Game Legendary Difficulty Playbook to help you get started as Zhang Yan in the 190 Rise of the Warlord start for Total War: Three Kingdoms.
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@Potatoes85858
@Potatoes85858 3 года назад
The distant relative feature can be a bit annoying. I get the logic, to try to avoid incest, but it doesn't make sense that you can't have 1 character marry Sun Ce and then have their brother marry Sun Ren. It seems pretty historical to me that families that are very close would have multiple marriages for good relations (although I don't know if that happened historically or if they chose to marry into multiple families to spread their influence).
@viscousgoo2021
@viscousgoo2021 3 года назад
How I start my Zhang Yan campaign - cross my fingers and hope everyone on Earth doesn't declare war on me. (oh wait...they already did)
@thiagorocha6117
@thiagorocha6117 3 года назад
I was like "this video was probably uploaded by mistake and he will make a new one" than he did it LOL Never played with bandits, I will give it a try soon
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Got to keep limit testing! If even the worst case scenario can do it then it’s definitely the one I want to show and not the one where by turn 6 I had everything smoothly completed.
@kallevandergeer283
@kallevandergeer283 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia definitely can get worse. three tries and for some reason she doesn't wanna even try to attack zhang yan. waited for years and her army just never showed up
@GOML1112
@GOML1112 3 года назад
The money trick threshold is 10x cash on hand to the per turn asking. For example if u want to get unlimited 200 per turn from another faction all he needs is at least 2000 gold if he doesn't have enough u can give him cash to reach the needed amount. usually I use it as a way to dump useless items with a good paying faction
@GOML1112
@GOML1112 3 года назад
in ur case u can keep promise 813 per turn as long as u have 8130 so ur right the merc contract is not necessary with Liu yu
@ML-le1sj
@ML-le1sj 3 года назад
How about we go a bit more exploitey? You can cut off a lot of variance and turns in this by keeping the wife and the red general from your army until turn 2 (banish the others, use titles/items to prevent defection if needed, don't divorce early). Turn 1: if you capture the Han general, recruit, don't release! This allows you to earn extra 800 if you get what I mean :D Disband all troops after fights and recall both guys. Feel free to mess with Liu Yu, but I probably wouldn't - getting locked in a merc contract for so long sucks. Turn 2, summon the red general in the capitol, summon Zhang Yan for the movement trick, move him to the border of your lands with Zheng Jiang, summon your wife and disband her troops. You can chase away the general at this point, he did his job. Then declare war on Zheng Jiang, split the wife off your army and send down south, preferrably to the edge ZJ attack range. You may need to move ZY a bit south as well, just outside of reinforcing his wife - can't remember... What should happen next is what I'd call a free divorce :D Make her bravely charge the enemies (maybe you can even duel your future wifey to give her exp? Can't remember). Even if she does run away/get released, you can still banish your current wifey to save on the divorce. Like this, Zheng Jian would end up with her army close to you, if she attacks ZY - just retreat. Turn 3: The rest in just fortifying with ZY anywhere in her range and skipping the turn. She will definitely attack you, and is actually very likely to come at you with two of her male generals, ensuring that your competition for Bandit Queen's hand disappears. Free waifu!
@mediacedia3719
@mediacedia3719 3 года назад
If anyone is struggling to make serious version work then I can confirm this comment works just as well
@TheBassemandrh
@TheBassemandrh 3 года назад
I had a weird thing happen when i tried this, well two things really. First one was with using pay tribute to secure marriage with Zheng Jiang where i had to pay tribute even though our factions joined up. The second time i tried using a mercenary contract to secure the marriage and it worked, however i was still under contract to her faction and when i took hedong and gifted it to mercenary lord i revived her faction under new leadership. Very weird.
@Aahe42
@Aahe42 3 года назад
I always wanted to get them both for my merc play-through
@hasbilksar985
@hasbilksar985 3 года назад
This is such a great idea! Well done Trivia
@ouki4925
@ouki4925 3 года назад
The meta for bandit factions is to simply abandon your starting settlement and sack the living shit out of everybody. The income is much better than any mercenary contracts the AI can give you. You can even cheese with 'Grant Independence' mechanic so that the entire map is populated by generic minor factions and the major factions are stuck with whatever leftover regions you want the AI to have.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
that is probably the least true for Zhang Yan as his capital starts with his unique unit which at worst is worth 50% post battle loot income which is quite useful. The rest of your statement is true though as you don't really need capital settlements and should just grant independence to lessor lords while keeping the counties for yourself as you continue to wage war across the map.
@RewanzDaNinja
@RewanzDaNinja 3 года назад
ST forgetting to trade that standing 10K gold Zheng Jiang had for non-existant money. :( (No seriously, if you're going to cheesxploit with this do NOT forget to drain their coffers before confed-ing, after all, more money is more gold which is more cash - this is especially true when you can confed the Han in the campaign because they are just a money cow)
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I mean yes (you can also trade your items to her then use per turn gold to trade them back).
@mrbenthedog8347
@mrbenthedog8347 3 года назад
The famed turbo simp strategy IT IS FLAWLESS
@nguyenngocphuongnam362
@nguyenngocphuongnam362 3 года назад
New fact: CA stop update the game cuz they cant nerf ST
@DuongLe-vb7hu
@DuongLe-vb7hu 3 года назад
hay đấy :))
@XeUrden
@XeUrden Год назад
I started Zhang Yan campaign, was doing quite good. I tried to keep Gongsun Zan as a close friend so I can expand south and deal with Han Fu, Yuan Shao and rest of the bunch. Obviously I overextended because I felt safe with Non aggression pact with Gongsan Zan, who suddenly, out of blue, just declared war on me ☹️
@ianforbescitra210
@ianforbescitra210 3 года назад
One thing is driving me crazy, why don’t you just adjust the tax slider all the way left? As a bandit faction you get a +15 satisfaction AND a salary reduction. Perfect for a hero-only early game!
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Can you adjust taxes on the first rank?
@ianforbescitra210
@ianforbescitra210 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia yes, from turn one! And because it reduces all salaries, it helps you conquer lands early game with commando squads (e.g. allowing you to afford blood dragon’s upkeep for OP early terror skill [600 kills on one hero is not difficult on large unit size]), it also helps you pay for keeping congqian until he gets poison volley (I usually lend him red sisters which makes him unbeatable in duels with his starting tenacity of steel).. its just a lot of fun early game
@pinie111
@pinie111 2 года назад
@@ianforbescitra210 HERESY ! Oh well all is fair in love and war I suppose :D
@ianforbescitra210
@ianforbescitra210 2 года назад
@@pinie111 MERITOCRACY !
@FoliFF93
@FoliFF93 3 года назад
You will only needs to get her to best friends i.e over 150 opinion. Even if she doesn't accept issuing an ultimatum will guarantee the confederation. Only downside is that you will suffer a big trustworthyness You have always been able to this since launch of the game
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I had test runs where she stayed in the city and fought me right away and was captured and thus gained fondness. In that case, at 150 the value will be positive 4.7 and ultimatum is not needed, but yes the ultimatum can get the job done once you hit 150 which seems to be the maximum in the game. I was just limit testing here because why not. If the 1000 point didn't sway the opinion, it definitely didn't sway the ultimatum. The only tricky part of this strategy is how to kill her husband(s).
@DarthBodya
@DarthBodya 3 года назад
When I play Yan Baihu and Zheng Jiang faction destroyed I always take her and married on her, but in both campaigns no kids from them.
@Gelwain
@Gelwain 17 дней назад
Trying this old strat and the attitude farming still works, but there's a flat -50 negative opinion from Zheng that I cannot depress no matter how friendly we are and how positive she is towards me. I think they patched it dead, fellas. What I wound up doing to make it work was issue a war ultimatum, of which she accepted. Others may not have liked it, but it is what it is! Now we sack all of China!
@yanbaihuzxzxzx
@yanbaihuzxzxzx 7 месяцев назад
Well the best thing to do for the bandit factions. sell everything dismantle troops. Make a mad dash to the Taiwan island by the time you get there you will have enough money to buy the settlement outright. have money to upgrade only person that is a pain in the ass is Shi Xie, he will make a play for you but if you beat his initial attack he'll leave you alone for the most part. the only person that can make an issue is Kong Rong, the game gets super simple if you can take the island and hold it and start from the south and work your way up. I did it for Zheng Jiang and if you can get her infamy up her troops dont break so you have to damn near wipe everyone out. I think she is the most overpowered faction once you can get her Infamy up. Zhang Yan is hard since he doesnt have any troops, the scare doesnt do much when its up against harden troops Yuan Shao is a pain in the ass for the half the game.
@louditalian1962
@louditalian1962 3 года назад
"We have a wife, and we need to get rid of her" Serious Trivia
@ketansingh3397
@ketansingh3397 3 года назад
Most cunning strategist in the game - ST👌🏼 I just use “Zheng jiang joins turn 1” ☺️🙃
@Omni_Shambles
@Omni_Shambles 3 года назад
Zhang Yan is one of the few campaigns I have not yet completed. I wonder what starting strategy he will use here.
@jordanwebb1543
@jordanwebb1543 3 года назад
How I do my Zhang Yan campaign step 1: flee west before Yuan Shao declares war on m- SHIT!!!!
@nguyenngocphuongnam362
@nguyenngocphuongnam362 3 года назад
Video ideal: using old units tier list( blue, green, faction unique...) as a starting point. Adding some new 1.7 units with quick overview( shouldnt give inttoduction to all units since the old tier lists have already done it). Cuz there are some huge buff/nerf to blue unit, calvary, fatigure system, this would be a best time to adjust our tier list. Another major plus point for this is CA have already abbandoned us, which make these tier lists wont ever be outdated xD
@112aslann
@112aslann 2 года назад
i tried this on 1.5 and it didnt work. From turn 1-11 you keep killing her husbands(which she has a few) and then after that she just hires new ones and marries them. I have had once that she even married the retinue leader from that town where you are looping. This might have been a bug. And the turn after she picked a different general to be married with. She is never single.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
I mean this is a guide for the final patch so I can’t say much for 1.5
@KittenCritters
@KittenCritters Год назад
Don't think this one works anymore sadly, followed it to a T but she didnt show up the first time until turn 18, now killed her husband 12 turns straight and she just keeps recruiting new ones :D
@arbiter7x
@arbiter7x 3 года назад
Serioustrivia to his newlywed wife: ''Take it off!''
@finalchronic8255
@finalchronic8255 3 года назад
Do you have a link for the loot system explanation in your old vids? you have sooo many vids lol
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
there is not like a single video focused purely on loot but it is mentioned in the old Zhang Yan guide or Yan Baihu or Zheng Jiang (just search those games with early game in the search and you can find them pretty easily).
@mysteriousanon5196
@mysteriousanon5196 3 года назад
She remarried after I killed first husband :/
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
yep I mentioned that it is definitely a possibility. Now just kill her second husband too.
@finalchronic8255
@finalchronic8255 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia she just keeps remarrying for me. 4th husband so far..
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@finalchronic8255 it’s super annoying and at that point maybe just restart the campaign.
@mysteriousanon5196
@mysteriousanon5196 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia restarted after she gave birth with one of her dead husbands, I’ll let u know how it goes lol
@ML-le1sj
@ML-le1sj 3 года назад
If you check my comment above, she should not be able to remarry (two of her male generals would take an arrow to the knees and then some). I'm not sure how many other candidates she has, but if I remember well, it wouldat least reduce the chances of her remarrying if not completely eliminate them.
@elijahjoncuzon3336
@elijahjoncuzon3336 3 года назад
I guess mine is broken. It just caps at 33 for Liu Yu after enabling the mercenary contract and countless little donations.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Are you playing at a different difficulty?
@elijahjoncuzon3336
@elijahjoncuzon3336 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia thank you for replying brother. I was playing in legendary difficulty. It could be that I need to uninstall and install TW3K again.
@highhonor7146
@highhonor7146 Год назад
Hey man i did this but zheng jiang just marries congqian and he dont come after me
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
That’s rather unfortunate
@kanetsugu100
@kanetsugu100 3 года назад
holy shit imagine having a -16k debt in the game without doing this
@phelipemits3712
@phelipemits3712 3 года назад
Quick question on the whole confederate marriage because i forgot it existed and its so cool, would this work on the side of the Queen?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
As I mention at the end of this guide. It’s a lot harder to do the same thing as Zheng Jiang simply because Zhang Yan is unlikely to spawn his wife onto the field for you to kill
@phelipemits3712
@phelipemits3712 3 года назад
Thank you Master Trivia :D
@stalkob6649
@stalkob6649 3 года назад
Damn, I never though you could have a small town with legs, this strategy is even more broken. Only weakness would be fire arrows.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Even then just wait out the time and it’s a heroic defeat as there is no draws for the defense in encampment battles
@stalkob6649
@stalkob6649 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia just won a heroic victory against Lü Bu, Zhang Liao and Li Ru with the bandit duo, just focus on the fire archers anf you're good to go
@Krystal353
@Krystal353 3 года назад
sometimes when an enemy general or cavalry charge me they literally never stop and we end up running laps around the map how do i negate their charge?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Don’t be close enough to get charged or else with charge speed boost you will get caught
@thepurist298
@thepurist298 3 года назад
Is going downt the yello turban diplomacy building, vassalising them and spawning them everywhere trough raiding a valid strat?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
But Yellow Turban Rebels the ones that spawn from bad public order will be enemies to you too. So staying on good terms with them especially just 24 points does nothing. Like you can run the raid yellow turban spawn strategy without that building (also the strategy is probably not going to work since the spawned armies will be too weak to do anything)
@alphabromega859
@alphabromega859 2 года назад
ive never lost a LL campaign in this game but i am getting absolutely trashed in this one. i am either against the Liu Bei tide, Dong tide, or Yuan Shao tide.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
Don’t expand too fast and lots of offensive ambushes
@ThanhTran-ClassicalGuitar
@ThanhTran-ClassicalGuitar 3 года назад
Instructions were not clear. My wife filed a devorce.
@xTimbo23
@xTimbo23 3 года назад
You should play with the insane AI Mod
@jvoodoochild2755
@jvoodoochild2755 3 года назад
Sorry ST, your diplo is cheese. How many sent gifts of one copper coin do you think it would take before you only got the head back from your envoy? Certainly relations would go down, not up. Embrace the cheese man. You are the loop content creator. If peeps don’t like looping then they should follow someone else
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I am by no means claiming this guide as exploit free (actually quite the opposite) but honestly the attitude mechanic and refreshing of the current attitude towards trending is just bad game design as if you think sending one coin is not realistic, think about how people feel after making a deal or buying something. You should reach your max happiness instantly and trend down towards a long term neutral. Like if I am marrying my daughter away, my happiness is not going to slowly drift higher from the wedding day onward. This coin trick is just to fix bad design in my mind.
@jvoodoochild2755
@jvoodoochild2755 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia actually quite the opposite as paying off the wedding bills is not a beautiful reminder
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
@@jvoodoochild2755 which is exactly why the happiness will not be rising but should be dipping after the immediate deal. Like during the wedding you are at the peak!
@jvoodoochild2755
@jvoodoochild2755 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia the alcohol helps too :D Agreed, good thing CA is still supporting this game, oh wait 😢
@danmelody6319
@danmelody6319 3 года назад
does it have to be played on Legendary for her to attack you? I've sat outside her base and she never attacks. I'm currently playing on normal
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Yes that does matter
@danmelody6319
@danmelody6319 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia can you recommend a different faction to play which you have a solid video tutorial?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
I have starting guides for pretty much all the factions and I have a full tutorial campaign playing as Cao Cao
@papercitadel4221
@papercitadel4221 Год назад
When i tried the marriage it was like 144 neg opinion . then i tried to ultimatum and she waged war back on me
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
ouch!
@aaronbonita2042
@aaronbonita2042 2 года назад
Does the wife trick work differently with MTU?
@henryyu8239
@henryyu8239 2 года назад
Hey Trivia. Do you know if the marriage strat was patched already?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
it still works just takes a lot of effort
@henryyu8239
@henryyu8239 2 года назад
I actually managed to get her husband to fight a war with me (by around 40ish🤣) unfortunately they already have a baby+Zheng Jiang is at the battle herself too… 1. Is marrying her still possible if they already have a baby? 2. She and her husband always stay tgt and comes at me hard. Any way I can separate them so I can kill her husband but not her and stall until the round finishes? 3. Should I just restart the campaign cos it’s round 40 already…
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
She has resilience so you probably will just kill her husband. Babies shouldn’t be an issue with being single
@mediacedia3719
@mediacedia3719 3 года назад
Has this worked for anyone?
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
Has it not worked for you?
@mysteriousanon5196
@mysteriousanon5196 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia sadly no but a 3 turn comment on this vid worked for me
@somebodyyouusedtoknow8600
@somebodyyouusedtoknow8600 Год назад
are you chinese by any chance? It seems that you don't butcher the names.
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia Год назад
I am!
@amirulxdlol
@amirulxdlol 3 года назад
LOL,It not cheesy but Milking
@gustafg9932
@gustafg9932 3 года назад
Love your videos, but this one featured too much cheese and micro for this guide to be useful for me, personally. At this point you might as well use cheats and save hours of free time
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 3 года назад
this one is super cheese heavy because the game is not designed for you to grab Zheng Jiang
@gustafg9932
@gustafg9932 3 года назад
@@SeriousTrivia I know and I respect your dedication to making this work, but it doesn't feel applicable as a start guide unless one is willing to invest one's time into looping and trading one gold over and over ;)
@alexalexpark12
@alexalexpark12 3 года назад
Simp Kingdoms
@arnoldgila9212
@arnoldgila9212 Год назад
This is simping on another level😂
@bosbanon3452
@bosbanon3452 Год назад
What the......
@sillyheadphone
@sillyheadphone 3 года назад
Lol. Can’t into her pants easily.
@kristiann8676
@kristiann8676 3 года назад
I love exploits
@Hooman775
@Hooman775 2 года назад
Dude you ruined the game ;D for me
@SeriousTrivia
@SeriousTrivia 2 года назад
Watchers beware ;)
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