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How to have conversations about LGBT issues during "Pride month" 

The Counsel of Trent
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June is “LGBT Pride Month” and so Trent joins John DeRosa of the Classical Theism podcast to share some tips for how we can defend the Church’s teaching on marriage and sexuality as well as answer common objections like “the Church hates gay people.”
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@Msc762
@Msc762 2 года назад
June is sacred heart of Jesus month
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад
@@tonyaakaelijahofmalachi45-96 cringe
@michaelanderson4849
@michaelanderson4849 2 года назад
@@tonyaakaelijahofmalachi45-96Mmmmkay! 🙄 #deleted#
@matthewcunningham5382
@matthewcunningham5382 2 года назад
@@tonyaakaelijahofmalachi45-96 What is a Eunuch? I thought it was someone would castrate their body to no longer be able to have true sex. They would do that so they could serve a king or court and not have sexual relations with any of their wives. If anything to me, that passage more so alludes to Priestly/ Religious life Celibacy. To forgo sex for the sake of Jesus. I would recommend reading Matthew 7:15 and wonder does that apply to either yourself or those you've been listening to
@ttthttpd
@ttthttpd 2 года назад
Wouldn't it make more sense for it to be Chaste Heart of Joseph month as reply to pride month, given the subject matter of pride month, the Catholic church's position of celebacy for LGB individuals, and the stereotype upheld by many Christians that an absent or abusive father is to blame?
@EtoDemerzel
@EtoDemerzel 2 года назад
Amen brother, amen.
@michajaneroy
@michajaneroy 2 года назад
As a formerly SEVERE anorexic, I’m very happy no one in hospitals/treatment facilities went along with my delusions- because I would be DEAD.
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
Which has nothing to do with homosexuality.
@conovan5081
@conovan5081 2 года назад
@@dharmadefender3932 But has everything to do with transgenderism
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
@@conovan5081 I'm not an expert, are you?
@conovan5081
@conovan5081 2 года назад
@@dharmadefender3932 I really don't care what experts will say on this, specially since those that deal with this subject are really just glorified activists, the parallel is clear, both assume they are something they are not and harm themselves trying to "correct" it.
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
@@conovan5081 I don't care about experts either. But I don't know anything about transgenderism, and I doubt you do, so I let the experts know what they're talking about and I shut up. That's what you ought to be doing also.
@M5guitar1
@M5guitar1 2 года назад
I retired early to remove myself from a major US aerospace company that forced celebrating Pride month while warning people not to "offend" coworkers during Christmas season by hanging decorations especially religious decorations. Many of my Protestant coworkers were also disgusted. There weren't many Catholics in my work group.
@kirkjungles4901
@kirkjungles4901 2 года назад
What company was this? Young engineers oughtta know in advance what we're up against.
@victorbeauregarde1502
@victorbeauregarde1502 2 года назад
I actually JUST had orientation for the new company I’m working for as an engineer. We had the LGBTQ+ training and I was just… wow.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 4 месяца назад
That's sad! The woke liberals force everyone to accept them, but they don't accept other people!
@mikaelacash3791
@mikaelacash3791 2 года назад
Oh my gosh, I LOVE that you brought up the example of cotard's syndrome (I'm shocked you've heard of it, considering most therapists I've seen haven't. Only my pediatric neurologist knew of it and was able to diagnose me), 'cause I have a history of cotard's syndrome and now, when people say that they are transgender, I now think back to my experiences with this horrible mental illness and think "Okay, so when I had cotard's syndrome, I genuinely believed with every fiber of my being that I was dead. It didn't matter if I had normal bodily functions or if a doctor showed me that I had a heartbeat. They were wrong. I was dead and they couldn't convince me otherwise. Does that mean that I WAS dead and that it would have been more compassionate to kill me so that my body conformed to what my brain was saying?" As you said, that is a very extreme response, but it's not wrong to compare it to cases of gender dysphoria. Why are we not treating this mental illness as we would with cotard's syndrome instead of condoning it? I think that sounds incredibly cruel to not try and help them! I was MISERABLE when I had cotard's syndrome! I actually am still susceptible to it if I become depressed enough (cotard's syndrome is a severe form of depression that causes delusional psychosis), but instead of letting myself get to that point where I think I'm dead again, I go to therapy. I practice self-care. I avoid things that cause stress and depression for me. And on the most part, it works aside from the rare occasion where I do feel like I'm bordering on those delusions again. Also: "Except for maybe asexual people, perhaps." *Raises hand* lol. Yeah, I don't actually call myself asexual because I don't wanna be associated with the LGBT+ community, but it is true that I have no sexual inclinations at all. I did label myself at one point, but it actually made me miserable and I feel far better just being and not slapping myself with a label.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
Glad you got out of it!
@mikaelacash3791
@mikaelacash3791 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord Thank you. It was a long, hard battle when I was actively struggling with it. Again, I still feel it creeping in every once in awhile, but nowadays it's usually just for a couple of minutes instead of weeks or months at a time.
@ToxicallyMasculinelol
@ToxicallyMasculinelol 2 года назад
your clarity is so encouraging. praise God
@nickmedley4749
@nickmedley4749 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing your story, you’re really courageous. Be assured of my prayers, severe depression is a heavy cross not including cotard syndrome as you described.
@bearistotle2820
@bearistotle2820 2 года назад
I've had similar lines of thought regarding my own anxieties. I had a legitimate mental breakdown not too long ago, and have occasional flare-ups, where I legitimately believe I am not just useless, but actually a burden on the good people around me, as well as a waste of space and other thoughts along these lines. While this isn't the same as what you went through, I came to a similar conclusion, where I was extremely grateful that the people around me, both back then and now, counter these delusions of mine. I know, objectively, these ideas are not true, even if I strongly felt they were and sometimes feel they are. If I were administered treatment in the same way that those who experience gender dysphoria, I probably would be dead right now. Yet, this attitude is relabeled as compassionate, even though we are encouraging people to mutilate their bodies, and ultimately telling them they are right to hate their own bodies. I mean, what are we to say to people when they have thoughts similar to mine? You were right when you thought you were born in the wrong body, but not right when you are depressed and think you are worthless?
@grainneburke7647
@grainneburke7647 2 года назад
Absolutely FANTASTIC. I'm going to listen again just to make my mind clear when I have to answer people. Best discussion I've ever heard on this topic. Thank you so much.
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 4 месяца назад
Amen!
@augiedad54
@augiedad54 2 года назад
Trent quoted some statistics: 40% of Gen-Z now experience gender confusion, 70% of LGBTQ+ are unhappy. I hate simply repeating statistics without knowing their origin. What is a reliable source for those statistics and for similar statistics?
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
Yeah the Gen Z one sounded off; I heard it’s that 20% of Genz identify as LGBT.... which ver différent. The 70% one sounds about right though FWIW I also think it’s a combination of factors-if you removed the Pride parades and propaganda of say the past 4 years, these kids wouldn’t magically be the strapping normal men/women of yore.
@carlosvillarreal6743
@carlosvillarreal6743 2 года назад
This video itself proves how transgenderism and homosexuality are two different topics with a whole different level of complexity on all levels, philosophical, theological and pastoral.
@klh768
@klh768 2 года назад
Deuteronomy says cross dressing is an abomination to God as I'm sure you know.
@hopefulforhumanity5625
@hopefulforhumanity5625 Год назад
​@@klh768Cross dressing is mentioned in the Bible?
@Test_Card_Tom
@Test_Card_Tom 7 месяцев назад
@@klh768 Deuteronomy also says adultery is punishable with death. That's about 70 million Americans who your religion suggest executing. Not that they care to preach about that much. They're much more concerned with attacking innocent LGBTQI+ people.
@ShiniGuraiJoker
@ShiniGuraiJoker 5 месяцев назад
​@@Test_Card_TomNah, they probably eventually want that too.
@rivstg13
@rivstg13 5 месяцев назад
@@hopefulforhumanity5625absolutely . Deuteronomy 22:5. ‘ a woman shall not wear man’s clothing nor shall a man put on is woman’s clothing ; for whoever does these things is an abomination to the LORD your God. ( NaSB version)
@user-qh4te1xz5r
@user-qh4te1xz5r 4 месяца назад
The Catechism of the Catholic Church has an entire section on human sexuality and addresses this topic very well people should read it.
@annmcerlean5017
@annmcerlean5017 Год назад
As far as "you hate gays", it no longer phases me. Just walk away!
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus 11 месяцев назад
,,,with your fingers in your ears.
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 Год назад
You don't need to say "they" to tell me that someone left a pair of eyeglasses on a restaurant table. "Someone" or "somebody," or "a guest" would work. Maybe we don't need to use the phrase "ordered toward" when we me mean "usually naturally able to".
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 4 месяца назад
Agreed! Ordered towards is too fancy!
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 4 месяца назад
@@keagaming9837 How about "naturally equipped?" I'm a Thomist. So, I know that many other Thomists use St. Thomas's jargon when they could paraphrase his prose for people who don't understand that jargon. Thank God analytic philosophers taught me while I earned my philosophy degree. After all, thoy're almost obsessed with writing clear prose. A.J. Ayer, Willard Van Orman Quine, Bertrand Russell, and John Searle are some analytic philosophers. John Haldane is a Catholic one. But Catholic analytic philosophers seem rare.
@duedilligence5463
@duedilligence5463 2 года назад
Difficult navigating my work when I have two transgender Coworkers. Gregory goes by Lily and another gentleman goes by Emma. I am in Trent’s camp of using “they” to not cause a disturbance but I’m definitely not acknowledging their preferred pronouns
@robertcross9047
@robertcross9047 2 года назад
You're a moral coward along with every "catholic" who bends to satanic laws about honoring insane people who cut off their genitals and act like this is a good thing. Concessions to the enemies of God lead you to hell. The apostles did not concede to the enemies of God where they preached, even when it cost them their life. You are dishonoring their martyrdom by being too much of a coward to lose your job even to uphold your faith.
@MsStack42
@MsStack42 2 года назад
Thank you RU-vid for not letting me read the dangerous replies to this comment. Please do keep up the good work....
@duedilligence5463
@duedilligence5463 2 года назад
@@MsStack42 hmm you’re right. Strange I can’t see people replying to my own comment
@robertcross9047
@robertcross9047 2 года назад
@@duedilligence5463 youtube is scared of honest discussion on this topic
@Elf0304
@Elf0304 2 года назад
Indeed. Respect should be a two way street and I think they is a reasonable compromise that someone respectful should accept.
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
2:20 “AsK Questions... usually their sexual ethics are confused and not well thought out.” This. I’m glad Trent brings this up (and in such a charitable manner). The movement has made it so far mostly by limiting interaction with dissenting opinions-both at the personal level and the collective. One thing I’ll add is that if you do come across anyone willing to listen at length, they might already have one foot out the door. In any case, I cannot overstate how difficult a change in worldview this will be for them. The only thing I can compare it to is breaking with cult or a drug dependency: You don’t realize how many needs these beliefs are (supposed to be) fulfilling until you entertain the idea of letting them go. So if you meet with vitriole, understand the literal reality shift their holding at bay.
@TheWorldsStage
@TheWorldsStage 2 года назад
most people don't have their ethics well thought out
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
How can sexual ethic be confused?
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
@@TheWorldsStage True. Examining your ethics is a lifelong endeavor (I know I’m certainly not done lol). But I think the issue her and in other places is that the incentive is to NOT examine your own ethics. A superficial observer might accuse religion of the same thing except religious practice actually has meaningful ends and centuries of good results to back it up.
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
@@Mish844 “how can sexual ethic be confused?” Oh how shall I count the ways...😆 Indeed I think Trent, due to time constraints, might have just assumed people agreed on that point. But sexual ethics can be confused if the starting premise is incorrect or flawed. One example he gave was the premise that “sex is for pleasure”. If that were true it would lead down many dark avenues. He does jump back and forth between arguing from principles and arguing from statistics here tho. It’s hard to say that every secular person would agree with his view of sex, but At a minimum, these conversations would get someone to think more about it.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@Ark_bleu what dark avenues? Be specific
@exerciserelax8719
@exerciserelax8719 2 года назад
Remember Fr. Mychal Judge. There are many good and holy people on all sides of this issue so we should approach it with humility and respect.
@ELROD.1_0_1
@ELROD.1_0_1 2 года назад
Sure we can respect those people. But respecting their sinful acts.. Won't make you a true Christian.. Love them, care them then make them REPENT! Of what they are doing.
@jaqian
@jaqian 2 года назад
A great man but I read that he may not have been celibate, which complicates the path to sainthood.
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
Good and holy people on both sides? Lol, no, there is not.
@shannonmaria22
@shannonmaria22 2 года назад
Excellent conversation. Thank you!
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 2 года назад
"Biological male" suggests that there could be nonbiological males, and "biological female" suggests that there could be nonbiological females. From what I can tell, transpeople usually distinguish between men and males and between women and females. The words "man" and "woman" connote an age range when "male" and "female" don't do that.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
I agree - transmen are men
@alexandaralexandrov3530
@alexandaralexandrov3530 Год назад
Sure there can be, they are however born near chernobyl, hiroshima or nagasaki
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 Год назад
​@@alexandaralexandrov3530 Are you suggesting nuclear radiation can change a baby's sex? Will a radiated baby's sex be hard to determine? If radiation changes a baby's, sex, then the baby isn't trans, according to trans activists, since they believe manhood and womanhood are social constructs.. Even trans activists distinguish between sex and gender. I do, too. But I still believe gender is a grammatical property. I'm an essentialist. I believe people, animals, places, and things have essences. For example, all and only human persons are rational animals. Being a rational animal is what it is to be a human person. So if I say, "I'm a human person, but I'm a rational animal," I contradict myself. All and only even numbers give you zero as the remainder when you divide them by two. I suggest that maleness and femaleness are essential properties. If any object loses an essential property, that object stops existing. Since water is essentially H2O. You'll destroy a water molecule when you remove one or more atoms from it. Maybe after you separate its atoms, they'll form another molecule. But it won't be the dismembered one. It'll be a new one composed of old parts. If maleness and femaleness and a baby lost maleness or femaleness, that person wouldn't exist anymore. But if someone adopts a new gender, that won't change his or her sex.
@halleylujah247
@halleylujah247 2 года назад
Blessed Month of the Sacred Heart of Jesus! Celebrate Jesus's infinite mercy not the sin of pride.
@skylergroen
@skylergroen 2 года назад
Sacred Heart of Jesus month!
@glof2553
@glof2553 2 года назад
Yes!!! Start a SHD if you haven't already. Also National Dairy Month. Raw milk Catholics where you at?
@TheChunkyCrusader
@TheChunkyCrusader 2 года назад
Based Sacred Heart of Jesus
@youtubecharlie1
@youtubecharlie1 2 года назад
@@tonyaakaelijahofmalachi45-96 demonic…
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад
@@tonyaakaelijahofmalachi45-96 cringe
@danharte6645
@danharte6645 2 года назад
How did we get to this place in time where people are openly arguing about what a man and a woman is. I feel as though I've stumbled into some kind of strange twisted alternate earth and can't get back
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 2 года назад
Your junk is your sex. How you express yourself is your gender. Who you choose to sleep with is your sexuality. And as long as you are a consenting adult, none of this is any of your business. None of this is new so you are either overprotected or undereducated.
@RiNickolous
@RiNickolous 2 года назад
We killed truth with Modern philosophy, and now the ideologues of the sexual revolution say reality can be whatever they want it to be. A reversal of the order of Creation, Man recreating himself in his own image, and suffering for it. Lord have mercy
@kevinkelly2162
@kevinkelly2162 2 года назад
@@RiNickolous There is no evidence we were created. And reality is what you can prove, not what it says in some old text of dubious origin that even the followers of said text cannot agree on.
@RiNickolous
@RiNickolous 2 года назад
@@kevinkelly2162 There's plenty of evidence we were created. And you're mixing up your ontology and your epistemology. Please, get some better material. This 2008 tier New Atheist apologetics is really boring
@SydneyCarton2085
@SydneyCarton2085 Год назад
​@@kevinkelly2162 your sex is your gender.
@HarrisonDean
@HarrisonDean 2 года назад
Keep up the good work, Trent.
@GratiaPrima_
@GratiaPrima_ 2 года назад
I have Mosaic Turner Syndrome. Thanks for saying these things. I prob will never be able to get pregnant, but I’m still the woman in my marriage.
@somethingpithy8547
@somethingpithy8547 Год назад
what does that mean for you?
@brendamyc3057
@brendamyc3057 2 года назад
June is the month of the Sacred Heart. Why aren’t we promoting that?
@GOD-OF-MGTOW
@GOD-OF-MGTOW 2 года назад
Because we allowed Marxists to take over all Western governments and institutions.
@brendamyc3057
@brendamyc3057 2 года назад
I know. We have to take the world back from the Marxists. Promote Jesus.
@magikarp2063
@magikarp2063 2 года назад
30:50 This is impossible to do in most languages, you have a female "they" and a male "they" in most languages.
@klh768
@klh768 2 года назад
Ellos y Ellas..
@alpha4IV
@alpha4IV 2 года назад
this has been your best take on the subject matter so far, you have come a long way in refining your argument/case. But, your language is still behind for the current zeitgeist, which I know is ever changing and evolving. But the current argument for Trans rights is the old argument for gay rights from the 90’s. Somehow trans no longer means transition and queer no longer means homosexual nor odd. The current argument as of June 2022, is that you are innately trans on an essential level, and that identifying as queer as a straight person is a political stance against the white patriarchal systems of oppression such as capitalism and slavery. I fear that we (catholics and christians) are making the same mistakes when speaking about Trans issues we have made in the past, and have corrected, in our approach to reaching out on homosexuality. Accepting the person and asking them to conform to God’s will I think is the correct approach. Yes it takes longer and is more difficult but it doesn’t create the cultural backlash to Christianity we are seeing now. But on the point of that backlash, how can we ask someone to conform to God’s will when they don’t believe in God, nor accept the Bible as either relevant or historical?
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 года назад
"But the current argument for Trans rights is the old argument for gay rights from the 90’s." Yep, good that another person has noticed this too. They're just recycling arguments and people just lap it up.
@someguyontheinternet2729
@someguyontheinternet2729 2 года назад
Hello Trent, a big fan of yours and your work. Just got one question though; you said that one thing we should ask people who advocates for transgender ideology is to ask them what's the difference between a gender non conforming man and a transgender woman. I assume that their possible answer to this is "well a gender non conforming man doesn't identify as the opposite gender unlike a transwoman". My question is if they answer it this way what's the next step that I should take in order to make them know that all of these are just inconsistent semantics game and that their ideology is inconsistent?? Greetings from the Philippines btw.
@tonyadieker4556
@tonyadieker4556 2 года назад
🏳️‍🌈 The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodim was about RAPE and greed! It had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven........ And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it........... Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing everytime you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay your tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder!
@Davidjune1970
@Davidjune1970 2 года назад
Or you could tell them that you don’t find gender orientation discussion worth knowing about. LGBTQ are like vegans … so intent to tell people about their beliefs that they don’t care if others have zero interest in the discussion and not understanding how awkward it is for people who just don’t care.
@zuko8014
@zuko8014 Год назад
But what about you makes you a woman and him still a man?
@zarki-games
@zarki-games 5 месяцев назад
​@zuko8014 They'll just keep repeating, "Because they identify that way" In a smug fashion, as though it obliterates any point you're trying to make about circular reasoning
@ELROD.1_0_1
@ELROD.1_0_1 2 года назад
Oh yeah this stuff contains lots of common sense. Preach it Brother💪🏻
@nickmedley4749
@nickmedley4749 2 года назад
Important info to know about possibly being fired for not going with the pronoun narrative. If you’re under age 40 most jobs in this country are employment-at-will. Essentially aside from discrimination criteria you can theoretically be fired for really arbitrary reasons, even something as simple as being a fan of the wrong sports team. Not saying don’t stand firm but keep in mind most employers could tell you to get lost without consequence.
@vickiekeene2625
@vickiekeene2625 2 года назад
Great job Trent!
@MyMachineWorld1990
@MyMachineWorld1990 5 месяцев назад
So good, Trent 🙏🏻
@vtaylor21
@vtaylor21 2 года назад
I don't have an issue with Matt Walsh's definition for the most part. Biology defines things as what they ought to be. It calls something an abnormality or a deformity if something doesn't function the way it ought to. In biology, a woman is a female human being. A female is a female that is supposed to have a XX chromosome, produce ova, and carry life. The biological definition is similar to Trent’s definition. They both define things as what they are ordered to do.
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
True but Trent’s is more succinct in that case, no? That being said, before trotting out “ordered toward gestation”, one had better be sure they’ve found a very...generous interlocutor. 😆
@vtaylor21
@vtaylor21 2 года назад
@@Ark_bleu I don't think so. I think both Trent’s definition and biological definition are both concise if people understand science describes how something is supposed to properly function. Trent’s definition is about the essence of something. Biology and other scientific fields describe how the essence is supposed to be expressed.
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
@@vtaylor21 “...are both concise *if* people understand science describes how something is supposed to properly function.” By appealing to a specific term (albeit within biology) Trent navigates around the inevitable “how do you define proper functionality “ question.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
Strictly it is ideology that defines things as they ought to be. Biology defines them as they ARE. Biology tells us about gamets, chromosomes, anatomy, gonads, hormons etc. and which you take as significant zn which you ignore is where the ideology starts
@ThuPham-ev1fm
@ThuPham-ev1fm Год назад
Very interesting! If possible, can I have the source for all the study that you mention in 25:41-27:00 and 38:50-39:00? Thank you!
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
23:10 you can also use the anorexia example: should we allow someone with anorexia to get gastric bypass surgery? Would that be helpful or compassionate? We also act like all the consequences, pain, and suffering are only on one side of that choice. Not getting sex-reassignment surgery=pain. Getting the surgery=relief from pain with no consequences. Obviously that’s a totally false narrative. These people need to be asked if they think there are any potential harms or consequences to getting these “gender-affirming” procedures. Most of them deny those realities.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
your dislike of modern medicine is no basis to treat it as dangerous.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
@@Mish844 I’m not sure I understand you: are you saying that you think I dislike modern medicine? You believe if someone points out they there are potential side effects, consequences, and harms that could result from taking medications and undergoing medical procedures, and that people should consider whether they actually need them before undertaking them…that they must just be saying that because they “dislike modern medicine?” So if I only “liked” modern medicine, then I’d realize there is no reason to consider side effects, consequences, or necessity? Am I understanding you right?
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@Seliz463 It's because I know that pointing out side effects by christians in transition context is not meant to spread awareness, it's usually meant as a scaremongering tactic meant to further "sin propaganda", even if side effects are usually just inconvinient and their chances are very slim. It's the same kind of rhetoric as antivaxxers use, supposedly only wanting people to know that vaccines are not 100% safe. Even if 99.99% safety doesn't deserve that kind of distrust.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
@@Mish844 so you determine the validity of an argument not by its own merits, but by what you know (or assume to know) about the demographic characteristics of the person making the argument? The validity of an argument has no inherent qualities, they are entirely dependent upon what category the person making the argument belongs to? So what if I said I was a queer, black, trans, disabled, autistic, demisexual pagan? Then would you be willing to consider my arguments on their own merits? But if I’m a heterosexual, white, male Christian, then you would not be willing? For the record I am in neither of those categories. I’m just trying to make sure I understand your criteria for evaluating arguments and information.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
@@Mish844 basically I made an argument, you responded in bad faith, and then when I called you on it, you justified yourself by blaming me for (in your presumption) being Christian and therefore by definition not being deserving of anything but a hostile, bad faith response. Either way you’re always the victim even when you’re the aggressor. Is this how you typically behave in debate? Or in life?
@TheThreatenedSwan
@TheThreatenedSwan 2 года назад
People who are so narcissistic project onto everyone else. Since they can't imagine holding a belief without extreme vitriol toward others, they can't imagine anyone else can either. But people who aren't so narcissistic can hold beliefs for the good of other individuals/the good of the group without being hateful
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
I think everyone should want everyone else to know the truth.
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 года назад
You're right. The pro-gay "marriage" people are awfully hateful people.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord well, you won't learn it from transphobes etc
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
@@Mish844 I am willing to listen to everyone's outlook on reality. The transphobes are way more convincing than the alphabet people I've talked to. Are you willing to have a conversation with me? Maybe you have some truth to unveil to me, but I'd bet against that possibility.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord depends on what specifically you want or need to know.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
15:10 it’s important to note that none of those rare “border cases” create a *third* sexual category, or make biological a spectrum or nonbinary. Even if we “don’t know” how to categorize an extremely small handful of people, they can still only be either male or female. There is no third gamete.
@paolofresnoza4261
@paolofresnoza4261 2 года назад
Very timely. Praise be to our Lord Jesus Christ!
@BlackCrowRider
@BlackCrowRider Год назад
Hi Trent I really prefer how you tackle this here than in the Matt Walsh video; it is far more compassionate than what Walsh is going for which I find is more preoccupied to self-affirming bias and "belittling" people with opposing beliefs; now let me be clear, there were some of the people Walsh interviewed that I categorically disagree with - especially the fact that gender is not multiple choice and the moment that you do you are commodifying it, an argument which is frequently glossed over. However I enjoy that here you are being far more compassionate. What worries me here is that we are forgetting one thing - the issue is not just about affirming identity but putting people with identity disorders at a disadvantage systematically and people ARE GENUINELY being harmed because of identity dysphoria, whatever it is. There is also the issue that we keep thinking of disabilities and disorders from an exclusively medical perspective - although there is a medical aspect of it in that a disorder is physiologically affected (perhaps in ways we have yet to understand) - it does not mean they are diseases which can or should be cured. A person with autism shouldn't be put at a disadvantage BECAUSE they are autistic - it's part of them, they can be helped live with who they are without asking them not to be autistic. The same applies with identity disorders, sometimes transitioning it helps ease their living with the rest of society as their inability to reconcile with who they look like is a hindrance. Like someone who needs a walking aid to walk should not be denied one in order to participate with society, there is nothing wrong with giving these people the means to do so. The problems arise when we present it as multiple choice - you do not get to CHOOSE if you are male/female/LGBT just as you don't get to choose if you are disabled or not, someone's child or not and so forth - you just ARE. The moment you offer something as a choice which SHOULD NOT BE a choice is commodifying that which should not be commodified - which is sadly what is being exploited in a capitalist hellscape; anything can be commodified, including your identity.
@BlackCrowRider
@BlackCrowRider Год назад
Why should we invalidate someone's identity? And I am speaking as an Learning Support Educator in a Church School and practicing Catholic here. The problem, I find, is if we think of identity purely on a medical level; there are "divergences" (read: differences) that cannot be cured - you cannot cure autism, you cannot cure heterochromia, you cannot cure someone's skin colour, only suppress them. There are conditions that cannot even be explained - there has not been one all-encompassing argument that has explained autism, to name one. And yet they are part of one's identity. You cannot ask someone who was born with Downs' Syndrome not to be so, someone who was born in with Asian racial traits due to being mixed race not to be so and so forth. They just are. The problem is when identity is offered as multiple choice - "You CAN be a man or a woman" - when even what that means, as Trent points out, is up for debate, as we tend to depart from the biological and try to stash traits into boxes. The moment you offer it as a choice it becomes commodified. Something to make profit of as something you buy off the shelf - and identity is not that; either you are or you are not. You cannot "choose one." Sure, identifying with who you are takes time, that is a journey. But you don't get to "choose." Either you are heterosexual or LGBTIQ; either you are neurotypical or not; either you are Maltese or not, it is not something you "buy" or "choose". It is up to the rest of society to create a healthy environment to accept that identity and for the individual to accept it of themselves and empower them within their own context and fully participate as a functional member of society: A person with mobility problems needs a walking aid to do so; a non-verbal individual needs a speaking device or therapy to do so; a person with gender dysphoria needs a body they can relate with to do so. A minority needs opportunities to be valued and recognised as much as the majority in order to do so. There is nothing "glorious" or "heroic" in forcing these people to be denied participation. Gatekeeping these is extortion. Offering these as commodities, "because they are trendy" or put you on a pedestal and empowering people to do so as a choice off the rack, is opportunistic and detrimental to those with that identity. You do not offer prosthetics to someone who has limbs; you do not offer a speaking device to someone who can talk, you do not offer bodily transitioning to people without identity issues and so forth. But that is something a capitalist society is bound to hold onto, isn't it?
@BlackCrowRider
@BlackCrowRider Год назад
On the question of pronouns; it is a little-known fact that as part of therapy for people who are questioning their sexuality that they are often asked to live with these pronouns to see if this truly applies to them - it is not really healthy to upend this process. Being supportive helps. On the question of same-sex marriage; 1. it is more about legal rights than about the religiosity thereof; 2. if you consider marriage as recognition of a person to unconditionally give themselves to another for a lifetime effort of commitment, then I personally am all for it and should be respected as in itself that is beautiful, that is love - "take me as I am warts and all as I take you". If you are taking it simply on the aspect of the prospect of procreation, that unlocks a whole can of worms that should not even be toyed with. 3. If you enter the argument of homosexuality as purely a selfish act for own pleasure in objectifying your other, the same can be said for a straight couple that has been done time and time again. That is one rabbit hole you do not want to get into. 4. The whole discussion about "disorderly sexuality" in pedophilia, zoophilia, paraphilia and whatever is pretty simple - you cannot exert your desire on something that does not have the power or frame of reference to reciprocate to do so in mantaining the other's dignity. It is in itself selfish. That betrays the whole idea of expressing sexuality. The dynamic is skewed. Whereas in two adult human beings giving their whole "being" to one another unconditionally and with plain view of the consequences that this brings is completely a whole different ballpark; there is no selfishness involved. Perhaps that is what is being peddled wrongfully, "love who you want, screw the consequences, screw the emotional baggage, it's only pleasure." It IS TRUE that it is being presented as an opportunity for commodification of sexuality. It IS TRUE that is being romanticised to the point of ridiculousness (being one identity does not automatically make you an objectively good person, as much as being Catholic does not or whatever, let alone being a victim; life is far more complex than that) But that is PRECISELY what we should be fighting - not the person, but how their plight is being presented. We SHOULD strive for their inclusion. We SHOULD be valuing these human beings. We SHOULD provide a healthy environment for equal opportunities - but we SHOULDN'T present who they are as something that can be bought or sold, or a state which is glorious to be in. Nobody is on a pedestal, let us just be humans.
@BlackCrowRider
@BlackCrowRider Год назад
Sorry for the lengthy version; I truly appreciate your effort to be compassionate and build bridges unlike what Matt Walsh did with his echo chamber of self-indulgence and self-aggrandisement. There are still a-ways to go, but this is a decent first step. You're great.
@abaddon2148
@abaddon2148 Год назад
ay quit thinking for yourself mate they don't like that kinda stuff here
@lois2997
@lois2997 Год назад
@@abaddon2148 troll. Get a life
@paulaaracena-sherck8154
@paulaaracena-sherck8154 2 года назад
Brilliant interview! Thanks to you both!
@stonwall9065
@stonwall9065 2 года назад
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.” Leviticus 18:22 “Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, *nor effeminate, nor homosexuals* [shall inherit the kingdom of God.]” 1Corinthians 6:9
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
yep, this is nonsense... you wanted to point this out, right?
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
@@maxmaximus2608 no, it's true. By "homosexual" here it's meant people who engage in homosexual behaviour, it's clearer in greek
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord What is clear in greek? I was trying to be sarcastic here, which obviously did not work...
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
@@maxmaximus2608 Well I just want to educate you. The modern atheists are those that have the shallowest understanding of religion, your worldview is based in ignorance and oversimplification, get educated.
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord Back up your statement and don't just make things up! Where is your proof? I suggest that rather the opposite is the case and folks leave religion in part because they start to getting into it. Googl
@libertasinveritas3198
@libertasinveritas3198 2 года назад
It was a pleasure to listen to this video. Great talk. 👏🏻
@arthurgearheard4701
@arthurgearheard4701 2 года назад
Most people that have an issue with the LGBT Community is that they're fed up with them pushing their Agenda! However, Fr. James Martin and Progressive Christianity give a Thumbs up to LGBT!
@duanewoodson9804
@duanewoodson9804 2 года назад
Father James will answer for leading his flock away from the truth.
@youtubecharlie1
@youtubecharlie1 2 года назад
Being compelled to use specific pronouns borders being compelled to lie. Our speech acts are meant to convey truth. Using our speech in a way that does not convey truth is wrong. That’s why using the person’s name is safest.
@tonyadieker4556
@tonyadieker4556 2 года назад
🏳️‍🌈 The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodim was about RAPE and greed! It had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven........ And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it........... Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing everytime you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay your tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder!
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад
That's why the use of PC buzzwords such as "LGBT" and "Pride Month" as though they are legitimate terms as Trent likes to do is subversive and frankly a massive red flag.
@robertblake9892
@robertblake9892 Месяц назад
I am a somewhat Fundamentalist Protestant, I view the LGBTQ whatever crowd the same way I view diabetics, epileptics, etc. They have something wrong with them, wired wrong-didn't ask for their afflictions., deserve our understanding, support, compassion. But I never heard of Diabetic or Epileptic Pride, no bragging or boasting by them.
@bullyboy131
@bullyboy131 2 года назад
Boy. Sense when did these explanations have to become so complicated. I wonder how Jesus would have defined what a woman and what a man is in his time. Lol.
@tonyadieker4556
@tonyadieker4556 2 года назад
🏳️‍🌈 The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodim was about RAPE and greed! It had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven........ And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it........... Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing everytime you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay your tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder!
@kennethduckworth7111
@kennethduckworth7111 5 месяцев назад
How do I handle a sitation at work where my organization is pursuing outreach/marketing to the LGBTQ market?
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
20:48 “....because Transgender Activists have antiquated, Neolithic views of men and women .” One might argue that part of the reason these views are antiquated today is the influence of ‘queer culture’, and while there’s definitely some double think on the part of Trans activists, surely we can’t pretend that conservatives encouraged boys-with-dolls before now? For the record, I agree with Trent here, yet on a broader question I’ve wondered about the dialogue between Church and Secular culture-particularly when it yields more precise understandings of human nature. Does the church need secularism to grow in other words? A silly question maybe but it’s an area I’d like to see Trent touch on in the future.
@rahelleul4392
@rahelleul4392 2 года назад
what to do when you don't know the answer to their questions, but in your heart you know the truth? How do you preserve the truth without making it seem like you don't know what your talking about? Ave Maria!
@FliVids
@FliVids Месяц назад
God is the final boss but Trent Horn is a major hard level stage boss
@justforrfunnn
@justforrfunnn Год назад
Sacred Heart of Jesus ❤️😊
@neilrivera4194
@neilrivera4194 2 года назад
I've met a lot of LGBT people in my life and they're some of the nicest people you'll ever meet but they're also the most misunderstood, broken and vulnerable. Still, I pray to God for their souls and hope they find the true meaning of love through Jesus Christ.
@Msc762
@Msc762 2 года назад
Not really sure why we need to celebrate pride
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
No need to pray and they are not ‘broken’. ‘Your’ Jesus preaches hate and exclusion, no need for that either.
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 2 года назад
@@maxmaximus2608 Most of the ones I knew would describe themselves as broken.
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
@@briandiehl9257 I have never heard anyone of my gay friends use this expression to describe themselves, in the context of their sexuality. In fact it never comes up that being gay is a problem at all. Only when they are confronted by Christian’s who are eager to tell them how sinful their lives are. I’m pretty sure that there is no god, and in case there is one, I doubt that she’d be so obsessed with human sexuality as the Christian god…
@briandiehl9257
@briandiehl9257 2 года назад
@@maxmaximus2608 I never said anything about being broken related to their sexuality, but just in general
@prodigaldawtr7907
@prodigaldawtr7907 2 года назад
June is not only the month of The Sacred Heart ❤️ of Jesus, it is also the month we have Father's Day, and we just kicked off the *7th* week of Easter. Add in the rainbow 🌈 and you get a pile of symbolism that tells you a lot.
@mariace4848
@mariace4848 2 года назад
According to emojis u can in fact get pregnant Trent
@CatholicismRules
@CatholicismRules Год назад
Lol ah yes the most powerful argument yet
@keagaming9837
@keagaming9837 4 месяца назад
Yeah, Apple, RU-vid, Discord, and just the internet in general is woke, what's your point?
@mariace4848
@mariace4848 4 месяца назад
It’s a joke
@Kenny-rp9iq
@Kenny-rp9iq 2 года назад
You should debate Arden of Eden on transgenderism.
@jonathanbohl
@jonathanbohl 2 года назад
Thanks! I love natural law arguments.
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
Except that it's invalid.
@jonathanbohl
@jonathanbohl 2 года назад
@@dharmadefender3932 What's valid?
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
@@jonathanbohl All arguments from nature have to based on the facts of nature. Which natural law arguments against homosexuality are not.
@skippy8696
@skippy8696 Год назад
​@@dharmadefender3932 Seeing gay men kiss produces the same physiological response as seeing maggots for straight men. Normal people find homosexual acts viscerally disgusting, even if they're afraid to say it out loud. We respond that way because such acts are disordered and contrary to natural law.
@howcanhowler4766
@howcanhowler4766 2 года назад
Yo Trent, you need to rebuttal christforgiveness ministries on youtube because Pastor David Lynn is hammering it down
@Mike-bn7kr
@Mike-bn7kr 2 года назад
Trent? Can you do a show on how to talk to a gay person and not have them mad in one sentence? When we show them the pasages in the Bible that they do not care to read. or should we not show them things like Leviticus 18:22.1 Corinthians 6:9-11
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
I'd have them read the Gospel of Matthew, let them learn how high the bar for heaven is for *EVERYONE*, I'd imagine if they are convinced of that they'd be more willing to put their worldview into discussion.
@c.m.cordero1772
@c.m.cordero1772 2 года назад
Maybe they don’t care about the Bible?
@themadscientist40k
@themadscientist40k 2 года назад
Can we start in the beginning Genesis 1:26-28 NKJV [26] Then God said, "Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth." [27] So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. [28] Then God blessed them, and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth."
@herambaanjaneya2177
@herambaanjaneya2177 Год назад
Well bearing in mind Trent's usual rants and position and feelings about LGBT people perhaps the wider question is what actually wants to listen? No doubt many would say why not include John DeRosa too in this and I would not disagree. The central point, however, that I have made many, many times on CoT is that since Catholic teaching about homosexuality and LGBT is at root an INVERSION of the Truth and the product of "disordered" and "delusional" thinking on the part of the Church authorities then no-one in good conscience is bound by this. This doesn't mean that all LGBT folk are any more like "angels" than he is and that none including Trent himself are beyond criticism. That's obviously nonsense! We are all responsible and culpable for our failings. However, what I answer to is Truth wherever it may lead and to a Higher Power and so I am terribly sorry if dear Trent might feel "professionally offended" by this but I have a Higher Calling. A little (classic English understatement) exegesis might be a good place to start.
@CatholicismRules
@CatholicismRules Год назад
Acting out an LGBTQAAIP2S+ lifestyle is mortally sinful. Looking at your other comments, you seem to think that these people are extra virtuous or something, and that's not the case. This lifestyle is morally wrong and they need to turn away, no matter how hard it is to do so.
@pcjgrjpaj
@pcjgrjpaj 2 года назад
June is not pride month, don't ratify their name for the month. June is the 'Month of the Sacred Heart of Jesus'. Use Catholic terms.
@TheChunkyCrusader
@TheChunkyCrusader 2 года назад
I will not give Kyle Ratification to LGBT month
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад
This channel is deceptively subversive. Horn uses subtle tactics to "legitimize" so-called "progressive values"
@Msc762
@Msc762 2 года назад
Amen amen
@uniquehoodrat
@uniquehoodrat 2 года назад
No it's pride
@conovan5081
@conovan5081 2 года назад
To be fair, they used quotes there, but I agree the title would be better with the Catholic term.
@tomgreen2737
@tomgreen2737 2 года назад
Thank a straight person for your existence
@TickleMeElmo55
@TickleMeElmo55 2 года назад
Or bisexual. But yes, human existence literally depends on straight people. LGBT+ don't actually add to the population in which they are a part of - and it's not because they're infertile or are called to be a religious sister, brother or priest. Their "romance" is innately sterile.
@jaqian
@jaqian 2 года назад
@@TickleMeElmo55 It would have been but now it's becoming popular to have surrogate children.
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
@@TickleMeElmo55 and Dysfunctional
@isaacleillhikar4566
@isaacleillhikar4566 Год назад
Its my.favourite time for it
@Dr.YehudaBenNachmanFriedburg
@Dr.YehudaBenNachmanFriedburg 2 года назад
Based title
@sartoriusrock
@sartoriusrock Год назад
9:20 from their perspective, the difference between these two things (gender nonconforming man vs. transgender woman) is that the former still feels comfortable identifying as a man; they self-identify that way... Whereas, a transgender woman is someone who is so repulsed by their sexual identity (gender dysphoria), that they wish to divorce themselves from that sexual/gender identity by whatever means available to them (though many will still come short of surgical alterations, especially to the genitals).
@mrjeffjob
@mrjeffjob 2 года назад
Why do Catholics almost always accept false assertions and start trying to disprove them? This occurred to me in the moment and I said “cite your evidence “ which threw it back at the other guy. Now HE was in the hotseat. Why do you worship Mary? “Source please?” Where does it say “ “ in the Bible? “Where does it say in the Bible that it has to be said in the Bible for it to be true?” Now I always answer a faulty question with a question.
@MrSophire
@MrSophire 2 года назад
Will, we don’t worship Mary, you clearly never debated a Catholic because we would have told you that we didn’t worship Mary. We honor her. Yes do pray to her but we use the definition of prayer (to ask for something) if you look at our prays to the Saints and Mary, they always have the phrase “pray for us” in them. When we pray to God there is no such phrase. Also the Hail Mary is in the Bible, when Mary visit Elizabeth. FYI
@angelalemos9811
@angelalemos9811 2 года назад
What on earth does this have to do with homosexuality
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
Why do Catholics worship Mary? We don’t
@arthurgearheard4701
@arthurgearheard4701 2 года назад
What about comedians that liked to dress up as women such as Milton Berle or Flip Wilson? Of course, they didn't WANT to be women! They dressed up as women to get laughs!
@candelario4288
@candelario4288 2 года назад
REPARATION! REPARATION! REPARATION!
@evangelesong6319
@evangelesong6319 2 года назад
I genuinely would like to know if it's okay to pray to and worship the Virgin Mary?
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
Nope. As Catholics we ask for her intercession (to pray for us). Yes, you’ll hear many people say they “pray to” Mary and many other saints but they are misspeaking and or mistaken.
@evangelesong6319
@evangelesong6319 2 года назад
@@Ark_bleu thank you for your response. Im genuinely trying to understand. Does it mean everytime you pray it is through the Virgin Mary or is it just once in a while. Is it because she is a seen as saintly and has favour with God? Is that why she's kind of like a mediator?
@jaqian
@jaqian 2 года назад
🤡 Tell me you have never researched what Catholics believe or even talk to one.
@jaqian
@jaqian 2 года назад
@@Ark_bleu Pray is an old word that means ask or entreat. You see it a lot in Shakespeare... Pray sir, tell me... Many people do not understand what the word means
@evangelesong6319
@evangelesong6319 2 года назад
@@jaqian actually, I just researched the word intercession.
@crobeastness
@crobeastness 2 года назад
this guy doesn't sound like the guy from classical theism.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
Hey Trent, I think you could refine your definition of man and woman to meet the materialists halfway, these are people that think "naturally ordered" implies an unscientific vision of the world. Here I go A man is a living organisn of the human species that can in principle produce male gametes without an external source of information. A female is the same but for female gametes. If both are theorethically possible, the organism is a man. Explanation: male and female gametes are distinguishable objectively in all cases in all species by mass and compatibility, the heavier class is the female one, that's a definition based on measurable parameters. All men could in principle have a weird mutation early in the embryo stage where they lose their Y chromosome and duplicate their X, *mayyybe* producing eggs, however there's no way a female can produce sperm.
@LtDeadeye
@LtDeadeye 2 года назад
That might work until you talk with a mereological nihilist.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
@@LtDeadeye My background is in biology, not in philosophy so I wouldn't really be able to counter someone that can hold opinions so unorthodox and radical with a straight face...
@williammcenaney1331
@williammcenaney1331 Год назад
Should my friend Ann Marie be able to form a legal household fore her and her dog Bailey? Maybe we need to know who or what can be a household member. I love carnivorous plants. But I won't urge a court to declare that a Venus Flytrap is a member of my household, let alone that plants and animals have rights.
@sarahdavis9770
@sarahdavis9770 2 года назад
How about some tough love for a change?
@Dannyboy0202
@Dannyboy0202 2 года назад
Another good book to read on this subject is "Johnny the walrus" by highly esteemed lgbtq author Matt walsh😁
@johnmatthew536
@johnmatthew536 2 года назад
Please Pray the Rosary & Devine Mercy Chaplet to free all countries from war, hunger, calamities, corruption, abortion, divorce, drugs, pornography, homosexuality, slavery, communism and all evils.pls. pray for peace and joy on all families and homes....
@malcolmkirk3343
@malcolmkirk3343 2 года назад
Often, the issue of a naturally occurring hermaphrodite (i.e. literally born that way) is used as the basis for liberal gender ideologies. But as ever, THE EXCEPTION DOES NOT MAKE THE RULE. So, just because a few people are born only with one arm, does not mean every person should have one arm removed to have "equality." Nor should a person with one arm be treated as if they have two arms (and be pressed to do tasks which require two arms).
@Aryanne_v2
@Aryanne_v2 2 года назад
Why are my comments being removed
@AndJusticeForMe
@AndJusticeForMe 2 года назад
Censorship
@mashah1085
@mashah1085 3 месяца назад
44:00 - Trent, do your views on marital infidelity extend to how you vote politically, like your views on abortion do? If so, who did you vote for in 2016 and 2020 for President? The guy who cheated on all three of his wives, once with an adult film star? Or was marital fidelity not that big a deal as pushing a political agenda?
@hownancydoesit7187
@hownancydoesit7187 2 года назад
Paul tells Peter to his face that he was wrong about the sacrament of circumcising, taking away the power of the cross, Paul goes on to say curse it are those who preach another gospel that they were first taught in Galatians chapter 2 or 3 both are great scriptures for false teachings.. people don’t trust no one but the word of God, don’t even trust what I’m saying, read it yourself please!!
@glenliesegang233
@glenliesegang233 4 месяца назад
I should be proud if I am most likely to have an awful or fatal illness according to the CDC and WHO?
@mad_marc2757
@mad_marc2757 2 года назад
Trent, could you please (if you want, of course) make a video commenting on an article in which Fr. James Martin shared on Twitter from the New York Times titled "A Medical Frontier" that supports trans surgery on teens and children. I found it disturbing, to say the least....
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
Why?
@mad_marc2757
@mad_marc2757 2 года назад
@@Mish844 Because it's messed up.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@mad_marc2757 Yes, I know your and opinion I was asking: why?
@mad_marc2757
@mad_marc2757 2 года назад
@@Mish844 Because Trent sometimes makes videos of replies to messed up things people share, say or do.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@mad_marc2757 still doesn't explain why children getting surgeries makes you disturbed
@mariacisneros6114
@mariacisneros6114 6 месяцев назад
😇
@bennyp8363
@bennyp8363 2 года назад
A month to celebrate gay pride and only a day to salute the soldiers who lost their lives...this is the world we live in.
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
Soldiers who wasted their lives fighting for Oligarchs and politicians. Boo hoo.
@bennyp8363
@bennyp8363 2 года назад
@@dharmadefender3932 okay groomer
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
@@bennyp8363 Smooth brain response. Also, not a Catholic.
@dharmadefender3932
@dharmadefender3932 2 года назад
@@bennyp8363 As per usual, the Christ eater cries out in pain as they strike you.
@bennyp8363
@bennyp8363 2 года назад
@@dharmadefender3932 I figured, explains your shameful response to my comment, groomer.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
38:20 a good approach is to ask “what does it mean to hate someone?” Ask then to define what “hate” looks like, and lead them down fleshing out their definition. Eventually it comes out that they believe it is hateful yo refuse to enable any desired behavior of another. Then you can ask if they would enable people with a desire to self-mutilate by praising the scars and buying them razor blades. Or use any other kind of example, like facilitating heroin addiction. Get them to understand that their definition of what it means to “love” and “hate” is very twisted.
@davenickolchuk6969
@davenickolchuk6969 2 года назад
My marriage to my husband is not even in the same universe as self-harm.
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
@@davenickolchuk6969 I don’t know you, but I can conjecture some things and be certain of other things. Conjecture: you’re a man, and the person you call your husband is also a man, one whom you care deeply about and with whom you have a close, intimate friendship. This close connection enriches both of your lives. There is nothing harmful about that at all, to either of you. Any human being could only be so blessed to have those kinds of connection with other humans. That’s the whole point of why we exist, besides to love and glorify God. Certainty: To the extent that you seek sexual gratification in the body of this person, and he seeks it in you, that is harmful to both of you. It’s a misuse of the gift of our sexuality, which is for procreative-unitive purposes. Of course it feels good, and it may give us pleasure to give another person physical pleasure, but sexual acts between two people that that cannot ever produce anything but physical pleasure with each other is sexuality that is divorced from the only actual aspect of it that has the capacity to generate everlasting union. That kind of sex can only be exploitive, and exploiting people is harming them. In other words, sex is for making babies. That’s the good part, that’s the only thing that can materially tie you to the other person forever, with a shared commitment to protecting and raising that child. That’s where all the love is. Not that a couple makes a baby every time, but being open to it every time is basically what makes every such sexual act an expression of repeating your wedding vows to each other. That said, I don’t think committed, monogamous same sex relationships are the worst thing. And if you and your husband were celibate, and just chose to live in love as two deeply adoring friends, good for you. I see no sin there at all. That’s beautiful. If the heterosexual couple down the street was incorporating contraception in their sex life, I’d find them engaging in sinful misuse of their sexuality, not you having a celibate and deeply loving relationship with your husband. Anyway, you might think I’m hating you or saying hateful things to you. I don’t hate you at all, and I’m telling you the truth about what I see as self harming and other-harming behavior out of a spirit of charity. If we love someone, we need to not use our sexuality to exploit them. If we aren’t willing or physically can’t make the act of sex an expression of openness to forever tying ourselves to them by creating a child, then we shouldn’t do it. We can love them non-sexually and find richness there.
@davenickolchuk6969
@davenickolchuk6969 2 года назад
@@Seliz463 I understand how far you have extended an olive branch an I appreciate that. But you can have my marriage certificate when you pry it from my cold. Dead. Hands
@Seliz463
@Seliz463 2 года назад
@@davenickolchuk6969 bless you for your open hearted magnanimity. I would never want you to feel threatened or at any risk. I can clearly see how much your marriage and partnership mean to you. I see you need and deserve a symbol of that love you share, and I support your right to have the kind of partnership-based legal rights that marriage is typically associated with. I don’t think your union should be called a marriage because that’s just not the definition of marriage. But marriage has been redefined and fundamentally gutted far before and in much worse ways than by allowing it to include same-sex unions. Introducing no-fault divorce already basically decimated the true meaning of marriage. We are all, gay and straight alike, left with an empty husk of what marriage really means. And that’s a horrible tragedy. So please believe me that when I say I don’t think marriage is defined as a state that can exist between two individuals of the same sex, I also mourn the fact that every heterosexual marriage out there is also not really meeting the definition of it either. Nobody really gets to be married in this world, we lost that a long time ago. I hope you have a long, fulfilling, beautiful partnership, and I hope you find a meaningful way to symbolize and define your connection that truly captures its essence and beauty.
@davenickolchuk6969
@davenickolchuk6969 2 года назад
@@Seliz463 I'm not interested in a partnership. My rights are not up for negotiation.
@ceceroxy2227
@ceceroxy2227 2 года назад
he hasnt seen ghost, come on bud
@lucienlagarde8093
@lucienlagarde8093 2 года назад
People have every sort of delusion I don’t get your come on and may some might seen it. Speak for yourself but not for others.
@erinsymone1645
@erinsymone1645 2 года назад
Why is Pride month in air quotes? You may not like it, but that's literally what it's called lol. "How to talk about Islam during 'Ramadan'" "How to talk about Judaism during 'Yom Kippur'" - it looks weird.
@vasilias2230
@vasilias2230 2 года назад
Because June In reality Is the month of the sacred heart of Jesus. Also "Pride month" Is not the same as a religious ritual/holiday, It's more akin to a corporate holiday. It's also okay to disagree with someone celebrating pride month by not celebrating It yourself. I mean, If you were a Jew In rome during saturnalia, you certainly wouldn't hold It as true festival, nor one you want to be associated with. Don't accept their words or forced holidays, June Is not pride month, they may be celebrating sodomy this month, but It's not a universal truth/Holiday
@darthbigred22
@darthbigred22 2 года назад
Because it's barely been a thing not even a decade They tried doing Christmas in July for a little while and that died as well. Or acting like the whole of black america is celebrating Juneteenth. I, a Texan, had black out of staters asking me what the hell that even was.
@mike-cc3dd
@mike-cc3dd 2 года назад
Because if i were a gay man i wouldn't be proud of causing 2 out of every 3 new hiv transmissions in the United states every year.
@michaelanderson4849
@michaelanderson4849 2 года назад
@@vasilias2230 The christian holidays are forced down the throat of the rest of society. So I think it is healthy for christians to have something not of their liking forced on them as well.
@michaelanderson4849
@michaelanderson4849 2 года назад
@@mike-cc3dd The HIV transmission is not the result of homosexuality but of choices regarding known pathways for viral transfer. Heterosexual or totally asexual persons can transfer the virus equally well.
@ricklamb772
@ricklamb772 11 месяцев назад
One things for sure,they give me the creeps and make my skin craw.Itsclike knowing your around Jeffrey Dahmer.Or Maralon Manson.Give me some holy water and some silver bullets.yuk.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus 11 месяцев назад
Catholics do the same to me.
@ricklamb772
@ricklamb772 11 месяцев назад
Cygn,Catholic give me a different creepy feeling,child molesters,drunks,bad guy pretending to be the good guy.
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus 11 месяцев назад
@@ricklamb772 How about this: Nobody give a sht about your creepy feelings. Mind your ow effin. business then.
@tmoney8785
@tmoney8785 Год назад
How bout out free don't accuse us to their terminology ? To me sex engine are used throughout history in our interchangeable change my mind
@TheLordUrban
@TheLordUrban Год назад
Well there is no doubt Trent is super straight. He thinks pastel is a color.
@AndJusticeForMe
@AndJusticeForMe 2 года назад
Christopher Hitchens once asked, and I’m paraphrasing, would you rather have your child looked after by a Catholic priest or a gay person. I’ll take the gay person every time.
@littleone1656
@littleone1656 2 года назад
Surprise, surprise 🙄
@onesneak7668
@onesneak7668 2 года назад
So when is heterosexual month?
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
Once they need it
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
I was thinking something more along the lines of a heterosexual millennia.
@littleone1656
@littleone1656 2 года назад
@@Mish844 at this point, we do. Just to remind ppl that we’re not only still here but that the homosexuals wouldn’t be here without US.
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@littleone1656 maybe it isn't obvious but need for a pride month for any group isn't based on their mere existence, but on the fact that said group's rights are being denied, or at least challenged like the right for marriage or adoption. It isn't a dick measuring contest of "there wouldn't be a country without us", unless you're that much insecure and need rationalizations for why your identity is sooo much grater than others. Which is why we don't have "bakers' pride month", "architects' pride month" etc. and ofc why we don't have "hetero pride month"
@meliss1123
@meliss1123 7 месяцев назад
Literally every day 🙄
@danaharper9708
@danaharper9708 2 года назад
Although it’s not for anyone with a sense of modesty, Ricky Gervais does a rather outstanding job of explaining transgenderism in his Netflix Special SuperNature.
@chriswalkin953
@chriswalkin953 Год назад
I think that a lot of people see the very vocal southern baptist style of condemning homosexuality and apply that to how all of Christianity treats people with these experiences, but it’s just not the case. The southern baptists hate the person - they will say things like “you are an abomination” and “God hates fags” but the Church teaches that it’s not the person who is wrong, but the acts they engage in. Unfortunately a lot of same-sex attracted persons also don’t seem to understand there is a difference between a person’s attractions and their actions in relation to those attractions, which has lead to the idea that homosexuality is an identity and state of being.
@paulmarko
@paulmarko 2 года назад
Dang. I really get the impression Trent sees how flawed natural law is but is committed to it for other reasons.
@Ark_bleu
@Ark_bleu 2 года назад
This made me chuckle 😆
@kwphillyzkp2
@kwphillyzkp2 2 года назад
fun fact king james was bisexual
@davidjanbaz7728
@davidjanbaz7728 2 года назад
He didn't do the translation work: its old news anyway : he just put up the government money to have a new translation.
@mugsofmirth8101
@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад
Yep more evidence of how this channel is hostile to Protestants and non-Catholics in general.
@angelalemos9811
@angelalemos9811 2 года назад
That's a heretical Bible too btw and lol
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
@@davidjanbaz7728 and choose who would translate it and how
@martywilliard
@martywilliard 2 года назад
Pope Francis would not share your ideology. Pope Francis is talking about accepting the culture as truth. America Magazine’s latest interviews point to Pope Francis’ mindset. So - what is the truth anymore?
@Voxelroguery
@Voxelroguery 2 года назад
Pope Francis is probably the expert here.
@martywilliard
@martywilliard 2 года назад
@@Voxelroguery probably so. Maybe Cardinal McCarrick, too.
@michaelibach9063
@michaelibach9063 2 года назад
Jesus called adultery sin and defined marriage as between one man and one woman. That’s the TRUTH, Pope Francis be damned if he is contrary to that. If he actually believes that, he needs to repent.
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord 2 года назад
As an italian, there are grave malicious mistranslation in a couple of the interviews I've read about what Pope Francis says.
@martywilliard
@martywilliard 2 года назад
@@tafazzi-on-discord What does he say? No seems to really understand …
@x-popone6817
@x-popone6817 2 года назад
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@kkdillworth
@kkdillworth 2 года назад
Talk about eunuchs also.
@banantoniofaleiro
@banantoniofaleiro 2 года назад
It was refreshing to see Trent admit that they are not at all in a political position to tackle the marriage issue even though it's a grave moral issue. It's like the biggest republican donor is Peter Thiel lol.
@themadscientist40k
@themadscientist40k 2 года назад
It is our job to share the good news but none of us can help someone who has rejected God. We should do well to remember that Satan’s sin was PRIDE
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
They propably don't your help in the first place
@themadscientist40k
@themadscientist40k 2 года назад
@@Mish844 that’s my point
@Mish844
@Mish844 2 года назад
@@themadscientist40k tbh it looked as though the point was the opposite
@themadscientist40k
@themadscientist40k 2 года назад
@@Mish844 that’s the biggest problem with this form of communication. It’s so easily misunderstood.
@rc3088
@rc3088 2 года назад
I do NOT use them. I will NOT play pretend with GROWN UPS.
@therese6447
@therese6447 2 года назад
God created us male and female. There is no gene that makes our orientation otherwise. It is the culture and environment that feeds the psychological piece that can cause confusion. Often times it is explained that those in broken households or those with a domineering father or mother coupled with what society pushes on folks certain tendencies. A male may have some effeminate qualities but that doesn't necessarily make them homosexual. We need strong fathers and mothers and morals to unconfuse kids. It may be true we all struggle with our attractions whether heterosexual or homosexual....sexual sins are sins regardless of type...we are called to love God more to overcome these acts and to love one another. We are called to chastity if not married. Pushing agendas on children confuse them. When little boys or girls are pushed into wearing attire not appropriate for their sex they can start to believe they are the opposite but by same token just because a girl is a tom boy doesn't make them homosexual either..and we shouldn't push that on them. This goes to gender roles. How many teased a little brother putting him in a dress...but don't make a bog deal about it....but if you consistently encourage it they may think they are something which they are not. At same time there may be a mental disorder that causes gender disphoria of some type...if it can't be fixed through counseling and through spiritual means etc which it may very well be...there may be cases where it might not but then you must teach chastity. It is also a fad for some teens to say they are homosexual or bisexual...and then they grow out of it and stay heterosexual.....that is society not nature. We must separate the sin the act from the so called tendency and promote virtue. The issue is indoctrination into this disordered lifestyle by society could very well cause a higher percentage of homosexuals or whatever than would be otherwise. So we must pray and protect our children. You have to teach them that we love all...its ok for a boy to love their friends male and female in a platonic sense that doesn't make them gay....but make sure they don't develop unhealthy attractions....basically don't let society psyop your kids.
@tonyadieker4556
@tonyadieker4556 2 года назад
🏳️‍🌈 The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodim was about RAPE and greed! It had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven........ And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it........... Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing everytime you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay your tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder!
@ntmn8444
@ntmn8444 2 года назад
💯
@maxmaximus2608
@maxmaximus2608 2 года назад
It's the cat in the house that makes the kids gay! I know it!
@dominusalicorn3684
@dominusalicorn3684 2 года назад
Can anyone tell what he said at 29:04?
@tonyadieker4556
@tonyadieker4556 2 года назад
🏳️‍🌈 The Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships. Anyone that teaches the LIE of monetary tithing, sells anything using the gospel, or teaches that same-sex marriage is a sin CHOOSES to die with the wicked. Luke 10:7 states the only wages for ministering are eating and drinking whatever you are given. Also, know that rich people will all die. You can't be a Christian, sit on all kinds of money, watch your fellow brothers and sisters starve, suffer, or be homeless, choose to do nothing about it, and think that it's ok. Those are all wolves. Mathew 19:12 Eunuchs that are born that way are transgender. Eunuchs made that way by others were abused in some way and something inside of them blocks off a certain type of body but it doesn't happen to everyone that is abused. Those that choose to live like Eunuchs FOR THE SAKE OF THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN are bisexual people that choose partners of the same sex-characteristics but opposite in regards to gender. Notice, it states God PREFERS for people to be in LGBT relationships. Leviticus, Corinthians, and Timothy were translated wrong by Billy Graham. Those verses are actually referring to pedophilia. Romans 1:27 All of the men were male in regards to gender, all of the women were female in gender. It is not referring to Eunuchs (where one partner is transgender). Also, it had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. They were trying to procreate during orgies so God did it on purpose. Anyone that continues to teach same sex marriage is a sin when the Bible says God prefers for people to be in LGBT relationships will also die by their own choice. Sodim was about RAPE and greed! It had nothing to do with marriage of any kind. In order to be a church building, the place must house people inside of it. Otherwise it is just another private money-making business part of Babylon that furthers satan's agenda. Stay out of the fake churches. I am Elijah of Malachi 4:5-6 and Acts 3:22-23 says it will come to pass that anyone that fails to listen to me will be UTTERLY destroyed from among the people. Again, everyone has a choice. And anyone that deletes my messages CHOOSES to reject Jesus Christ Himself and that means they also CHOOSE to die with the wicked. I am Elijah so that means any discrepancies in the holy books are ultimately decided by me. I am also to usher in the Messiah! Be ready: Jesus is coming back! WORLD PEACE IS COMING!! By the way, anything based on gender norms no longer applies. In fact, the last will be first and the first will be last. It's women that will be ruling the kingdom of heaven........ And rapture is not what most people think. Its when God's true people shine with the glory of God and are miraculously healed. Read Malachi 4:2-4 and the verses surrounding it........... Malachi 2 proves Malachi 3:8-11 is talking to the thieving church leaders. Every single major church and fake preacher on television knew since Augst of 2020 if they brought the money back they were never supposed to take for ministering then God would end Covid but they love money so much they intentionally chose to kill everyone instead of repenting. Seriously, do you really comprend that? The church leaders LOVE MONEY SO MUCH that they INTENTIONALLY CHOSE TO KILL PEOPLE instead of repenting. Every time they collect money for ministering they know they are killing people with Covid and they still do it! Could you imagine for almost 2 years walking into your "church" on Sunday and knowing everytime you asked people to take that piece of paper in the back of the pew and pay your tithes you knew more people would die from Covid and you did it anyhow? 😭😭😭😭 That is SICK. All these people need prison time for murder!
@Test_Card_Tom
@Test_Card_Tom 7 месяцев назад
Trent states that sex is for the expression of 'marital love'. Smart arse answer because it immediately rules out homosexuals who at the same time he denies marriage to.
@rivstg13
@rivstg13 5 месяцев назад
Not ‘smart arse’ at all, instead it’s logical and follows naturally from what ‘marriage’ is ( a God ordained/ recognized union between one man and one woman). Of course it rules out deviant behavior ( homosexuality ) that God’s Word ( the Bible ) identifies.
@Test_Card_Tom
@Test_Card_Tom 5 месяцев назад
@@rivstg13 The Bible was written by men and not God. God couldn't care a jot about what two men get up to in bed. He is concerned about violence frequently visited upon homosexuals the world over as a result of the EVIL teaching of religions like the one you follow.
@lois2997
@lois2997 Год назад
I wish there was no such thing as pride month. I think God agrees
@cygnusustus
@cygnusustus 11 месяцев назад
Of course you think God agrees with you. It is the arrogance of Christians to believe an all-knowing being is in complete agreement with them.
@tommore3263
@tommore3263 Год назад
Excellent. Sanity.
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