Was looking for a video to send my friend to show him how simple these are to install. Subscribing because this is perfection for how a DIY video should be. No fluff no backstory into the first ceiling fan braces and how they've evolved. 1:16 of pure instructional bliss. Thank you.
I am a new home owner. After my last stint in the Middle East, I HATE the heat. Especially while I sleep. Thank you for the video ❤ I am excited to get my new fan up 🎉
This video is awesome! Answered all my questions and more in 80 seconds. I really really appreciate the demonstration ceiling that shows how to do this with the little amount of working room you have but still being able to get the good camera shots. Thanks!
These kinds of videos are exactly the kind that get people into deep do do when things don't go according to the video! Lolol I've installed dozens of ceiling fans, not one was as easy as it looked on the video. Insulation, vapor barriers, extra nails, ductwork, rodent nests, wasps, wiring, attic catwalks, and multitudes of unforeseen issues are more the norm. Sometimes it goes without too much fuss, but never without any snags at some point. Nice video, but remember it's U Tube!
I did this today. However, I went with the bracket that screws on to the joists since I had access to the attic above. It was a hassle getting the attic piece done with all the insulation up there but it worked out. The fan is up and very sturdy. Next one I may try this one you can install and just twist to tighten. That will save a time and sweat. I was just worried about it not staying tight over time with the fan vibrations
Thank you! I’ve been asking the “handy” men I know for a while to fix a ceiling fan that looks like it will fall any second.. your video is so simple and clear that I’m going to go fix that fan myself, subscribe to your channel, watch all your other videos, then see what other things are around my house that I can just fix myself!
If your attic is anything like mine, you will have piles of blown insulation on the other side of the ceiling sheet rock. Which means you won’t be able to just stick your hand through the hole and adjust the brace to fit between the joists. In this video they have an empty attic above them- no insulation. I had to climb up in my attic to dig away the blown insulation so I could attach the brace. Also it’s easier to just go up and pry out the nails that hold the old box to the joist. Pounding it out wasn’t working for me- It was raining popcorn from the ceiling on my face
@@vanquish421 The remodel braces as shown in the video are usually ~$15-20, but the point's the same. If you have access to the other size of the ceiling, a scrap piece of 2x4 would be the most basic solution. With the length in question, you can probably get one for free from any home improvement store.
This video is not only lacking all BS, but in preparation for the video they installed a section of ceiling, and did so in a manner for easy viewing and understanding whats taking place above the ceiling during installation. This video is just over a minute long, basically telling you no more, and no less, than you need to complete the task listed in the title. Many videos haven't even gotten through their standard intro, suggesting to you (prior to watching) ti hit like and subscribe, and then the ever so silly literally unboxing portion - that in many case actually describes the packaging. Anyway, thanks for the video and the time that went into making it,
Really need one of these that show how to extend the box so that it's flush with the top of the ceiling - many modern ceiling fans extend past the edge of the box and this makes it a huge pain to not crack plaster / mount them securely
Exactly the issue I’m having now. Thinking it would require a few spacers above the box to ensure it is flush. Otherwise, you cannot secure the fan correctly and tightening it will crack the drywall.
I want to hang one of these, but I have a mobile home. Looking up into the existing hole, I don't have those nice beefy 2x12's up there, I have 2x2's. Yes, the whole roof area is made of 2x2's holding up my roof. The bracket doesn't have enough wood to hold onto. What can I do? (short of removing and replacing my entire roof structure)
I have that tester, but I misplaced it. That one makes sound along with the visual display. I love that tester. When I compare it to my K.... tools tester. That tester is much better. Not only because of the beep but it is more sensitive. My K..,.. Tools won't detect some wall switches with the plate on. I'll search the web for the brand. I need another one of those. Thanks for your video good job
I had an existing metal box, but this trick still mostly worked. I used a piece of wood and a deadblow hammer to break the weld points, and then I had to remove the remaining bracket separately. (Two very well anchored nails.)
Great instructional video, exactly what I was looking for. My existing box broke in half when I pounded it out, but it loosened up enough so I could pry out the nails that were holding it into the studs (so a small pry bar may be needed). And as for drywall nails popping out, the instructional video has a temporary setup and the ceiling bounced as the junction box was struck. With a permanent structure nails should not pop out (unless you swing your hammer like Thor). - Thank you for posting this video!
I tried a wood block and hammer but it didn't work for me, it only sprung back and made me tired. But with a wood chisel that had a built in handle on it and a hammer I was able to break the 2 plastic places where the nails went through. Wish I would have done that first.
We live ina mobile home and there are NO JOISTS OR STUDS around the old junction box to mout this onto. Thought my stud finder was out of wack until il stuck my arm in and realized there wasnt anything to for the brace to grab onto!! Any suggestions?
I like how at 1:00 he sees but doesn't mention the problem of the joist being in the way of the new box and him having to cut the sheetrock to account for it.
I have a client with a condo in our downtown area which is all metal framed. They have a 1 gang junction box in the ceiling holing up their current hanging light. The box is only held onto the stud on one side, the the fixture hangs at an angle. Obviously, if there was wood above the ceiling, this wouldn't be an issue. But I'm looking for a non-invasive way to connect a brace between two metal joists. The only thing that comes to mind, currently, would be to cut out the drywall and use self tapping screws or drill holes and connect the brace with bolts. Trying to see if there's an easier method to do this that won't require removing a section of dry wall. Any suggestions?
How in the world do you get it to fit properly when the hole is right up against the joist? Is there a certain type of brace I need? I have the retro brace kit from Hubble brand.
there's a product called ez brace 101 coming to your local home improvement store soon that will make all these hubbell, commercial electric, and westinghouse fan boxes obsolete
In these cheaply built new construction homes - there are no ceiling joists of solid wood anymore. It's all 1" particle board rafters. With another 2" piece of 1" particle board at the bottom (creating a little lip - of which the drywall ceiling is screwed to). Makes it virtually impossible to use one of those ceiling braces. Unless you set it right Above the lip. Really tedious and frustrating. Almost as much fun as replacing a bathroom fan in an old house.
No because the box is still usually only connected to the beam by a couple small nails. This brace isn't even really the way to go if you can get attic access. Ideally you'd want to cut a 2x4 to fit between the two braces and screw it in on either side, then mount the box to the 2x4 but that requires either opening up the drywall or getting access from above in the attic. This brace in the video works in a pinch.
Thanks for the video. I have a question. If there is access such as an attic, do I need to put a brace still? Are there other methods or products I can use?
You need a brace of some sort for a ceiling fan. The drywall itself wont hold up over time and the fan would come crashing down. If you have attic access, you can cut a hole in the ceiling where you want the fan, then stick a piece of dowel rod or wiring up through the insulation to find your spot in the attic and you can use a 2x4 to go from one ceiling joist to the next and attach your electric junction box to the 2x4. They make different kinds of boxes for fans that attach in different ways to a 2x4 brace.
They are also what is reccomended for if you are adding a new light between joists, which is what I did. Because of the issue of the insulation, I wound up going up into the attic to install it. I basically just need to get it in place and tight enough that it wouldn't move, doing the final tightening from below. Not an easy job.
didn't even know that these kinds of braces exist. it solves the problem of not being able to anchor the junction box except by screwing it right to the ceiling board. Hope the Home depot has them.
Also, you had the wrong side of the brace close to the hole....other side had a hexagonal nut, you could have used wrench to make it more tighter so teeth would go all the way in until flange of the brace. It's still kind of ok but hand tightening is not enough, adjustable wrench can be helpful.
At minute 1:06, when you are fastening those nuts onto those bolts, is that what’s holding the entire box up? What if I removed those nuts you just fastened, would I be able to remove the entire box with those other screws they go into the fan base? I’m trying to remove a old box because the screw they feed through the fan base aren’t long enough.
Thats awesome but my attic has Fiberglass type insulation in small peaces spreaded all over my attic which barely has enough space to crawl in it so doing something like this won't be as easy as it looks. But still a very useful video. 🙇♂️🙏
Nice video but skips over probably the most difficult part of the procedure: how/where to position the saddle on the support bar so the screws line up with the box's holes and so the saddle doesn't move.
@@misstrish3 Will depend upon the fan brace. Turns out that despite being marked for old work, the fan brace I bought from Home Depot (forget if it was a Westinghouse or Commercial Electric was not for old work. Being new to this game, by the time I figured out the problem of buying the mis-marked product, I was beyond the return date. 😞 However the fan brace I bought at my local hardware store for the same price as the Home Depot products worked as a charm. Installed in perhaps 30 minutes. Bottom line: if one can't figure out how to use the "old" work fan brace, it probably wasn't meant for old work. Good luck with your project.
A screw on the strap, or the nut to tighten the box to the strap, stripped when I was tightening it. I can't get the box tightened down snugly. Any tips to remedy this?
One problem is dealing with insulation in the attic, as it will be in the way of the brace. In addition to the batt insulation in our attic, there is about 12" of cellulose insulation. Getting it out of the way will not be easy.
That’s why these types of videos are pointless. They need to show this being done in a actual house and how to deal with misc issues like insulation and such.
Nor they show the blown in insulation crashing out of the hole into your breathing mask and goggles that are fogged up from sweating because it's so hot from not having a fan️ in the room! Nor did they play the soundtrack of expletive words used to vent frustration when engaged in fixing someone else's screwed up messes! Lolol good times!!!
