How to Install the Feuling Hydraulic Cam Tensioner Upgrade on a Harley Davidson Twin Cam. 

The first gen twin cam especially! Thanks for the comment

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Great tip!

@@empcycleworks i do this with electric motor bearings. Works every time.

That’s great. Feuling has replaced s&s as my go to for engine internals.

Thank you for your comment. You definitely can install the cams/ bearings using the heat/ ice method. That works just fine. I absolutely centered the oil pump on the pinion shaft. I spun the pinion shaft using the rear wheel and tightened the cam plate and oil pump bolts in sequence. Following the instructions from Feuling on the centering procedure. Plus, the Jims alignment tools do not work with the feuling oil pump because the threads are on the pinion side of the oil pump. The jims tool does not reach the threads. I like this method better than using the Jims tools because it centers the oil pump to the pinion. Using the Jims tool it centers the oil pump to the cam plate not necessarily the pinion shaft. Again thanks for the comment.

Awesome input on the plate and bearings 🤙

Thanks, this was one of my first videos. Im glad it was helpful

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I have not videoed a direct comparison. But I will on the next one. Thanks for the idea.

My upgrade also made a significant improvement

Thank you for the advice. I am working on getting better at filming and editing. I am happy you enjoyed it.

Adjustable wrenches, the moveable jaw should lead the movement if possible on the final tightening or initial loosening. Reduces wrench slipping off. Offset or angled wrenches the short jaw should lead when possible for final tightening or initial loosening for the same reason.

Maybe next time, push down on the cam install tool spreader bar in the middle and a rubber band around chain in between the cams. Just stuff I’ve learned over 30 years as a Industrial Maintenance Mechanic.

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You can heat up the cam plate (in an oven) and freeze the bearings and achieve the same results at home.

@@empcycleworks cool tip thank you...Where are you located?I tore into my cam chest and found a badly scored cam the front inner bearing was still jntact...thank God.

Fueling. S and s and screaming eagle conversion are loads better than factory 🤘

@@brandonmacon3317 update my 06RK has been dyno'ed and run's and souns like Harley. Fueling 525 cam was awesome choice for me ,all DIY.

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Great info. Thank you

Amazing how many install videos never even mention this. You already have the cam cover off and you are clearly not on TDC

Mainly cost

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Thanks for the comment. Fuel moto is a great company to work with. In this circumstance, my customer needed the tensioners replaced. Budget was the main factor in the part selection.

@@empcycleworks ahhhh! I didn't realize it wasn't your bike. 😃

That's what I thought

This particular kit uses the stock style cams/ bearings. You can get a kit to convert the cam plate and cams to the new style while maintains the smaller inner cam bearing. This was more of a budget upgrade.

​@@empcycleworks what kit is the latter ? Ty brother

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If it is 2007 and latter, than yes you can just replace the tensioner shoes. You can’t just replace spring loaded tensioners with hydraulic though. The cam plate is different

Have you looked into rocker lockers? inexpensive solution for the ticking.

@@maryblankley4702 I found the fix and it was very simple

What was the simple fix?

@@nathanm5352So i researched online LITERALLY EVERYWHERE, and not a single person had the same issue as me which was the loud ticking noise on the rockers, I got so frustrated I had to find a mechanic on you tube to help me find the issue and turns out all I needed to do was to leave my bike on for at least 4-5 minutes and the noise went away. The issue was the engine needed time to lubricate the rockers to stop the ticking noise it was making. After the 4-5 minutes the ticking slowly went away till it disappeared completely.

Sorry, I had to close the shop. I don’t have access to the dealers anymore.

If your pinion has less than 0.003” runout, you can install gear drive cams with a stock grind and eliminate the tensioners altogether

This particular job was just a tensioner upgrade. We kept the stock cams.

The A Motors in the twin cam era are the Touring and Dyna models. The B Motor goes in the softails. I always remember B motor is balanced.

@@empcycleworks great, thank you

You don't need a press just heat up the plate around where the bearings go, then simply drop em in. The plate will cool down and hug the bearings tight. You won't risk gouging the plate this way.

I am a dealer for all these Jims tools. send me an email empcycleworks@gmail.com

I don’t remember how many miles on this particular bike. I usually recommend to check your tensioners at 30k miles. This is about $1500 for a shop to do it

​@@empcycleworks think he meant parts price brother -labor

I like BelRay for the primary and transmission. Redline, Amsoil, or Lucas for the motor.

Not if you don’t change the cam.

I have used this kit a bunch of times. Have never had any issues. Thanks for the comment,

You can do a search on Amazon and find cheap tools for this job. The one I use are from Jims

The point is to refresh the wear items and improve what we can. Gear drive would have been optimal, but the budget would not allow it.

@@empcycleworks ok, got it.

Thanks for the comment. I don’t remember the the runout on this motor exactly. But from your comment, I believe the runout is 0.001”. On this motor the limit per Harley is 0.012”

Depends where you live. 5 to 10 hours labor

@@empcycleworks Thanks 👍🏻

Upgrading to a hydraulic tensioner setup like the Feuling one in this video is always a good idea. Although you can replace tensioners and bearings in your stock setup. If you are going to pay a shop upgrade it. If you are doing it yourself you can save some money just freshening the cam-chest up. If your pinion is under 0.003" run-out, gear drive is the best option. Depending on your budget.

@@empcycleworks HD quate me $1200 for changing out the spring tensioners. But I haven't taken the cam cover off to see how the shoes look like.

I always replace the inner cam bearings every time I remove cams! The stock Harley cam bearings are not the best, so upgrading to a full compliment bearing is a must. I have seen these bearings fail, so replacing them is cheap insurance.

Understood! Did those come in the cam kit?

There is still 2

On this job, budget was the issue

@@empcycleworks I see. I guess if it’s you own and you don’t count your time. But if you’re paying the extra time getting into the top end would eat up a lot of savings. Especially if you end up with a leak

Around $800 depending on the year and options

Around $800 depending on the year and options

Thank you for the comment!

Thanks for the question. What model and year Harley?

@@empcycleworks 2000 fat boy

I think the bearings are better in this kit. Other wise the Screamin Eagle setup is also good

@empcycleworks I'm here still debating with s&s or fueling lol can't make up my mind lol

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What is is the year and model of your bike? There are couple kits for different applications.

I have added them to my website. Check the link in the description

@@empcycleworks I have a Harley Davidson Softail Deuce 2002.

@@empcycleworks thank you

I cant say I have ever heard of that. The newer single roller chains are less sharp than the original style cam chains. I would be leery of sanding on the chain for fear of contaminating the rollers. And not being able to 100% verify that the chain is free of all the sanding material and steel particles. But its an interesting idea. Thanks for the comment.

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Gear drive was not in the budget.

The spring is the major problem with the original setup. Even though the pad is of a similar material, the hydraulic setup lasts longer. If money is not an option, gear drive cams eliminates the issue entirely.

You are right