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How to Kill Darth Sion 

Papito Qinn
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After HK-47 explained at length about how to kill Jedi, the Exile asks if he has any way to kill a Sith. Specifically a Sith that refuses to die.
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@louisiananlord17
@louisiananlord17 7 лет назад
Doubt has killed many Jedi and Sith. Very true.
@anthonymacrobert4075
@anthonymacrobert4075 3 года назад
Yes it is doubt has also killed many people in the real world. Such a philosophical gem this master piece of media.
@louisiananlord17
@louisiananlord17 3 года назад
@@anthonymacrobert4075 Indeed, sir.
@KingShibe
@KingShibe 2 года назад
Darth Maul: "Doubting will only lead to failure!!!" As he force chokes a female mando
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
Somewhere Revan is wiping tears from their eyes...."That's my murderous boy!"
@revanvonheaven8270
@revanvonheaven8270 2 года назад
Indeed
@olibeau7955
@olibeau7955 3 года назад
I love how HK-47 understands the force better than practically all meat bags in the SW universe.
@iceomistar4302
@iceomistar4302 3 года назад
I think it sometimes takes an outside perspective to understand the flaws in system of belief or in this case a metaphysical power which connects all living things, perhaps to understand it to a degree you need to be disconnected from it as droids are.
@iceomistar4302
@iceomistar4302 3 года назад
And to also have a unique perspective of having worked with a darklord of the sith and likely fought and encountered many sith and jedi during the Mandalorian and Jedi Civil Wars, Jedi and Sith no matter how powerful or wise all fall into similar categories.
@lordofcreativity9637
@lordofcreativity9637 2 года назад
To some extent those who can use the force can find themselves blinded from their experiences using it and their lack of understanding of the perspectives of those for whom the force is not active. An outside perspective can offer a unique viewpoint that can identify things unseen to those who are too close to the issue.
@subjectnivleis7572
@subjectnivleis7572 Год назад
Revan built him so he knows
@DarkWarrior076
@DarkWarrior076 4 года назад
The moment when an assassin droid gave you a better advice than wise old Kreia gave you. No offense, she’s still the best.
@LeftytheGansterGremlin
@LeftytheGansterGremlin 3 года назад
No worries. HK is a breath of fresh air here because he's getting straight to the point, where Kreia would have just been manipulative and mysterious.
@anthonymacrobert4075
@anthonymacrobert4075 3 года назад
@@LeftytheGansterGremlin that's so true kreia and her jedi speak. Being that hk is a droid it makes sense that he's straight to the point. Analytical no mystery he gives an effective strategy to deal with a unique enemy. In fact what he said about making him doubt actually can be applied to people in the real world. Doubt truly is a killer and if you can make someone doubt there actions and beliefs you can gain an advantage in most things. The writing is simply amazing and so well thought out. I played this day one and in the modern day very few games can give me the feeling that this game did. A game that can literally alter your perception on life Is such a rare gem. These poor kids stuck on fortnite will probably never experience that feeling.
@eliteecho9383
@eliteecho9383 3 года назад
He was built by Revan after all B)
@TheSaintinRed
@TheSaintinRed Год назад
I know it’s an old game and conversation, but with the TSLRCM enabled I remember when there’s a point in the Harbinger where you use a high Wisdom check to have the Exile say: (paraphrased) “[WISDOM] I think Kreia knows, she lead me here to try and force Nihilus to starve himself and weaken so he can be killed” The same thing is with Sion, she tells Sion to wait for the Exile so that when they fight Sion has to lose to another wound in the force, but one who isn’t dead. One who has studied and learned her lessons about hating the force and giving up the pain and hate and suffering that sustains him. Plus it’s poetic that she wants you to mirror her teachings and knowledge and present them to Sion as a fellow apprentice that will have more impact than his Master he hates.
@RockSmithStudio
@RockSmithStudio Год назад
When you realize the reason you win at Malachor V is largely thanks to this amazing droid
@troIIdier
@troIIdier 3 года назад
If ever you had doubts that HK-47 was really, *really* damn good at his job, just remember: He called this.
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
Anakin built 3P0. Revan built HIM.
@orpheusepiphanes2797
@orpheusepiphanes2797 3 года назад
@@JnEricsonx Swoosh
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
@@orpheusepiphanes2797 My point was that Darth Vader's droid technical skills were NOTHING compared to Revan.
@darthknightwingphoenix2081
@darthknightwingphoenix2081 3 года назад
@@JnEricsonx no kidding. Anakin didn't even build 3P0 from scratch, he found the head, chassis, and pretty much everything he needed in Watto's Junkyard. He just put it together, like assembling a model from a kit. Revan built HK 47 completely on his own, AND programmed him to boot. That's some top quality work.
@austinthe710messiah2
@austinthe710messiah2 3 года назад
This is why if a droid Revolution were to be lead by HK-47, it would make order 66 and the death star insignificant to how many droids there are in the entire galaxy killing meatbags with modifications similar to the Peragus Mining Droid Incident the HK-50's caused. All they'd need is access to every droid when they get serviced, spread out to grow numbers, then flip switch to kill meatbags anywhere once they know they've gotten every droid.
@TY-km8hj
@TY-km8hj 5 лет назад
One of the reasons why HK one of my favourites. Despite being a droid and having no experience using or learning the force he is still able to pick apart their techniques as well as apply their own techniques. When he says that doubt should be used he is indirectly talking about the sith technique of dun moch which is used to erode an opponents will and faith in themselves to throw them off in conflict.
@nathanielseyoum2289
@nathanielseyoum2289 5 лет назад
Yup but it's good to remember that HK was created by Revan, so it makes sense that his creator would place a lot of his knowledge of destroying Force users as part of his assassination protocols. But yeah, he is great, 'I informed him of his meat bag status' is one of the best lines I've heard in the game xDD
@llVIU
@llVIU 4 года назад
he is like the opposite of those ''superman type'' of force users. yoda so powerful, anakin oh so powerful, oh luke skywalker can teleport 57 planets or whatever... who gives a shit, ''my imaginary friend is more powerful than your imaginary friend'' is not what makes a character interesting. HK is like the batman of star wars... he has no ''superpowers'' but he is more interesting than some braindead made-up character with god-like force powers... like superman
@ironworkssamurai9421
@ironworkssamurai9421 2 года назад
He quite literally has killer intuition.
@powderedwiglouis1238
@powderedwiglouis1238 3 года назад
he straight up tells you how to beat the second to last boss of the game with dialogue
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 3 года назад
4 years later, you can get through one of the two final boss fights exactly this way in Mass Effect.
@supersaiyandrgnslayr
@supersaiyandrgnslayr 4 года назад
The line that broke Sion is "Was it really worth it?" The instant he admitted it, his connection to his immortality was broken and he finally died (unless you're female exile, then he died of simping)
@alex21390
@alex21390 3 года назад
And female exile is canon lol
@noisemarine561
@noisemarine561 3 года назад
@@alex21390 So it was Beauty that killed the Beast
@pink_waffle
@pink_waffle 3 года назад
'died of simping' HKDJSKSKSKSK
@rauls.g.2518
@rauls.g.2518 2 года назад
@@alex21390 is Canon to a... Non Canon mmo and a bad novel Just keep whatever you like
@alex21390
@alex21390 2 года назад
@@rauls.g.2518 I mean different universes can have their own different Canons. And since SWTOR comes after and says the exile is female. Also what novel?
@davidtran1812
@davidtran1812 5 лет назад
He likes Sun Tzu, but doesn't like meatbags.
@skylerstevens8887
@skylerstevens8887 3 года назад
It's pronounced SN-Z2 ;)
@briandurio6479
@briandurio6479 3 года назад
@@skylerstevens8887 oh that's clever
@AssassinKid0
@AssassinKid0 3 месяца назад
The perfect "tactical droid" even before the concept of a "tactical droid" was ever created.
@lurnfitness572
@lurnfitness572 6 лет назад
This is such an awesome conversation. I hate that it was hidden so deep in the convo tree that most people missed it. It seriously made Sion's character 1000X cooler. Honestly, I barely understood what the hell was going on the final battle with him. Like... "Oh he's immortal. Just keep killing him. He'll die eventually." ...wtf? At least this explained what was actually happening to his resolve. Such great writing wasted. :P
@AlecRozsa
@AlecRozsa 5 лет назад
Yeah it is a downfall of some of these games with amazing stories. They need to convey character development to the player in other ways besides dialogue. But that takes a lot of time. KOTOR 2 really is a case study of this flaw because almost all story is revealed through dialogue, and the game was rushed.
@Mayo2411
@Mayo2411 3 года назад
How do you access this conversation
@Cross_111
@Cross_111 3 года назад
@@Mayo2411 have high affection with hk47 That inevitably requires you to be dark side
@dgrunklesamiii4615
@dgrunklesamiii4615 3 года назад
@@Mayo2411 You can ask HK-47 about Sion after fighting him on Korriban.
@dgrunklesamiii4615
@dgrunklesamiii4615 3 года назад
And no, it doesn't require a high affinity with him. Even so, that doesn't mean you end up being a dark sider. It mostly comes down to bringing certain companions to certain encounters. One such encounter involves Kumus. Simply bringing HK and detonating the thermite charges immediately grants a large quantity of influence with HK, and merely dents your good boy points.
@Tahkaullus01
@Tahkaullus01 5 лет назад
So essentially, HK's advice is: Call him mean names.
@jonathansotelo4877
@jonathansotelo4877 3 года назад
More like, "I heard the force said you were too ugly to keep alive."
@xdgamesCoUk
@xdgamesCoUk 3 года назад
HK's advice is actually how you kill Sion in the end.
@DarkAdonisVyers
@DarkAdonisVyers 3 года назад
Darth Sion is Pennywise?
@Norinia
@Norinia Год назад
If I remember right, I took the opposite approach. I told him I liked him. I think he called my character beautiful. He then passed peacefully. Who says violence is the only answer?
@Farb_dk
@Farb_dk 4 года назад
How to kill an immortal sith master: Step 1: Bullying Step 2: You killed him!!
@Blastanker
@Blastanker 7 лет назад
Damn I never noticed this before in the game
@bendakstarkiller1270
@bendakstarkiller1270 5 лет назад
Both games are such philosophical goldmines. Best RPGs ever!
@75JUNAKI
@75JUNAKI 5 лет назад
Bendak Starkiller wish we got obsidian koror 3
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 4 года назад
@@75JUNAKI Me too friend me too, that's the game i want the most
@merleshand2442
@merleshand2442 3 года назад
I liked jade empire too
@richardalex4516
@richardalex4516 5 лет назад
HK is surprising me to this day
@juangallego7197
@juangallego7197 5 лет назад
Basically, it was HK's way to say use "Dun Moch" and taunt him til his death...
@thedumbdog1964
@thedumbdog1964 3 года назад
Just sitting and focusing and listening to characters in these games talk is so centering
@zombry2178
@zombry2178 2 года назад
Especially with Visas and Hk
@McJitsu360
@McJitsu360 3 года назад
YOU SEEK TO ERODE MY WILL YOU WILL NOT SUCCEED
@goisles6728
@goisles6728 3 года назад
[You have eroded Sion’s will]
@artemisarrow179
@artemisarrow179 3 года назад
Goddam Kotor 2 is freaking amazing
@mas8705
@mas8705 Год назад
I love how this is basically like the joke of having a robot put itself into a paradox by saying something like, “this sentence is a lie.”
@DisgaeaDragoon
@DisgaeaDragoon 6 месяцев назад
...and that's why he's Revan's Legendary Assassin Droid.
@aamirrazak3467
@aamirrazak3467 4 года назад
This is interesting never knew this dialogue was in game, out of the three triumvirate sith, i always liked sion the least by far, but this adds an interesting layer to his story
@fishfishrun1207
@fishfishrun1207 3 года назад
thank god i went for the speech 100, darkside, force powers (lightning), unarmed build....as my first playthrough....
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 4 года назад
The Force seems similar to the Warp in Warhammer, fueled by belief, faith, and emotions. Maybe one day all the wars and turbulent emotions caused by the Sith will open a tear in the Force and cause Force Daemons to spill out.
@Crusader-tg1wx
@Crusader-tg1wx 4 года назад
KingOfMadCows One can only hope. Imagine the stories that would result.
@houseoftoussaint9609
@houseoftoussaint9609 3 года назад
I believe the Force is fueled by life. As in mass death either evaporates the Force in an area or taints it there with darkness. Ultimately I think the Force is shaped by our beliefs and emotions as you stated. We through living our lives we color the Force into such extremes as light and dark. The Force itself is neutral. I believe the wrap is also neutral eh just has evil inside it because evil exists outside of it. Same way. The Force is a mirror of the living it encompasses. Making the Force neither evil or good.
@davesobani9565
@davesobani9565 2 года назад
That kind of happend.... gods whats its name abyssal or something was as close as a force deamon/devil as the Son was.
@MBOmnis
@MBOmnis 2 года назад
Greenskins and Orks are force-sensitive!
@rumor-936
@rumor-936 2 года назад
HK is the embodiment of "do them dirty, in front of they squad"
@egeorgiades93
@egeorgiades93 3 года назад
In the Words of Woolie: Force Nope!
@811chelseafc
@811chelseafc Год назад
In 2 minutes HK brings up the ridiculous things video game characters can survive and how villains monologue. What a meta chad.
@oneamongstthecrowd
@oneamongstthecrowd 4 года назад
Press X to doubt.
@TheRoomforImprovement
@TheRoomforImprovement 3 года назад
Is Darth Sion essentially a Sith zombie?
@user-yo8ab1ys9e
@user-yo8ab1ys9e 3 года назад
No, not at all.
@khajiitimanus7432
@khajiitimanus7432 2 года назад
If Nihilus is a vampire, than Sion would be ye olde style of non-ghost revenant.
@durinV
@durinV Год назад
More like a Sith in a Life-Force support system.
@akuladoctor7355
@akuladoctor7355 2 года назад
HK-47 seems to know more about the meatbags, than most meatbags do. Perhaps that is why he is considered to be the most dangerous droid ever created in the EU.
@benjaminjohnson5414
@benjaminjohnson5414 3 года назад
One of the things I love and hate about KOTOR 2. I have played through it so many time maybe a dozen or more and I have never heard that conversation.
@primotef8863
@primotef8863 3 года назад
I never had this conversation with HK-47, but managed to kill Sion with kindness.
@Tabby3456
@Tabby3456 4 года назад
Wait, should...hmm, no he's a pretty good guy, but...although...hmm, perhaps....no...no...yes!?
@Lapusso650
@Lapusso650 3 года назад
God what a voice!
@MEJ777
@MEJ777 4 года назад
That is an interesting truth
@imanitriesitout
@imanitriesitout 2 года назад
Hk Should have his own code "...and with truth there is no doubt"
@Crusader-tg1wx
@Crusader-tg1wx 4 года назад
When did you unlock this dialogue chain? After you fight Sion on Korriban?
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 4 года назад
Well by the time you do that you won't be able to return to the Ebon Hawk, so no. If anything, it was after the "how to kill Jedi" conversation.
@juanlaise1059
@juanlaise1059 4 года назад
@@PapitoQinn Eh, you are wrong. You can return to the Ebon Hawk after Korriban. You cannot do so after the Jedi Enclave meeting.
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 4 года назад
@@juanlaise1059 Right. So I guess crusader had it.
@tituscamero4799
@tituscamero4799 3 года назад
Do you need to bring him with you on Korriban? Or is this hidden dialogue?
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 3 года назад
It's just dialogue that people seem to overlook a lot somehow.
@GeneralGrievous-1138
@GeneralGrievous-1138 9 месяцев назад
you only unlock this dialogue option after Korriban (doesn't matter if you actually bring HK with you), which is why a lot of people miss it, especially if you're doing Korriban last like most people
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
I once suggested talking him to death, just like some enemies from Planescape: Torment. I ended up right. Say, Master Qinn, any plans to check Planescape one day?
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 2 года назад
Yes I do have plans. I already own the enhanced edition.
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 2 года назад
@@PapitoQinn Nice!
@k.t.1641
@k.t.1641 3 года назад
"DO YOU KNOW OR NOT! MY GOD. Lol I love this game but sometimes it just rambles on and on. They really do love the sound of their own voice
@imjustlookingformywatch
@imjustlookingformywatch 3 года назад
Wisest character in Star Wars. Maybe the meatbags should be wiped from the galaxy after all.
@12ian89
@12ian89 2 года назад
doubt the deadliest weapon in the universe.
@АлексейШелудько-я5л
wouldn't it be great if you actually won't be able to kill Sion, and he would keep regaining health if you havn't figure this piece of dialoge? Thus make the game impossible to complete. So much missed opportunities..
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 3 года назад
I don't think that's the kind of thing you want to do to your players. Many may have to completely start over. Just because they missed one piece of dialogue. A dialogue that people have told me they've never seen before.
@АлексейШелудько-я5л
​@@PapitoQinn maybe not so radical as i said. You are right ofcourse. I meant something rewarding for the player for finding such rare piece of dialoge. The way game worked on release and now was that it was always your decision how deep you understand whats going on. You get the same content anyway. I tried to imagine otherwise) (sorry for bad English)
@PapitoQinn
@PapitoQinn 3 года назад
@@АлексейШелудько-я5л No I think I get it. Maybe a dialogue option that shows up in the Sion fight in case of not having enough for a skill check.
@darthrevan7923
@darthrevan7923 3 года назад
ok we all gotta admit hk 47 would probably mop up the entire jedi order in yodas time XD and do it with wonderful shit talking too! screw general asthmatic grevious XD put this bot on screen the comedy alone will make millions.
@themonkeybutt437
@themonkeybutt437 2 года назад
HK-47 kinda breaks the fourth wall when he talks about quickly you recover from combat
@lionelthawne7723
@lionelthawne7723 6 месяцев назад
I thought I was the only one that noticed that😉
@jukaa1012
@jukaa1012 5 месяцев назад
not really its just that this game incomporatea its gameplay into its ideology
@heretowatchvideos100
@heretowatchvideos100 5 лет назад
Omg I've never seen this before and I've had this game for years.
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