The Disciple Understands 

Man, when I was young and it only just dawned on me that not everyone knew Kreia was there--that was awesome

0:44 you always knew shit was about to go down in this series when characters did that side-to-side glance

GOTO just floating there slowly drifting into insanity

The fact that Kreia can Mind Trick other force users so powerfully is kind of terrifying.

I guess trolling the Disciple is Kreias idea of a good time xD

Perhaps I'm the only one in the Galaxy, who likes Mical's character. I like Atton a little bit more, because his backstory, his tragedy is really heart-wrenching, but I like how perceptive and innocent Mical is. While Atton is a darker, complex, sad figure, Mical is like a child, who is not yet blinded by the pain he had to endure, and the battles he had to fight during his life. He loves and idolizes the Exile, but not dependent on her, so in many ways, I find him amazing. And it also shows something, that even Kreia is respectful towards him: even during the ending, she basically states her oppinion about the love triangle, and when speaking of Atton, she says that he has nothing to offer, that he is a fool, while speaking about Mical, she appreciates his love for the Exile, and only says that she can't take him with her. So yes, I believe there is more in this character, than what most people see.

i couldn't help but laugh at the sight of kreia running from side to side like some cliché ghost scene the first time i saw it.

Kriea is such an amazing character. I wish we could hear more of her wisdom.

4:08 this quote will stick with me until I die

Alot of people i know don't like Mical, but honestly my first playthrough in the Jedi Enclave ruins and how terrible it was and unprepared I was, it was a nice reward finding him and honestly it was him that made me question the events of jedi and sith history and the eternal reccurence that the galaxy is stuck in with both of their existence. Kreia taught me much about personal strength and perception, values etc, but Mical was one that framed the dialectics of galactic history and its ties to the Force itself. I just liked that the character seemed unbiased in his research and was willing to look at the state of the galaxy a bit more objectively then most characters i had read, saw or played as in Star Wars. To me he is a very underrated character.

I believe she masked her presence from the Disciple because, him being a historian of the Jedi (and a former member of the order himself), there's a good chance he would have been able to connect the dots and deduce Kreia's real identity. At one point, he even figures out the nature of her plot, only to have it erased from his memory through her force techniques. Disciple was too intelligent to be left to his own devices.

4:08 NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

"I? Do you think I seek the death of all living things? There is no victory in such things. I do not want to win our war like this, little Jedi. When I win I wish it to be because I was right, my teachings true." The best dialogue she ever gave, she also basically revealed her plan to Mical. Defeaning people to the Force, and destroy the Force so that it would stop controlling everything.

I love this bit, especially the chat with Kriea. The Disciple seems such a po-faced humourless goon that he's difficult to relate to, sometimes even to listen to on many playthroughs, but it turns out he, out of all of the followers, is by far the most perceptive. That Kreia says 'You could have been so much more', and is even respectful to an extent, says more about introverts than anything.

Fascinating I’ve never encountered this cutscene. Kreia knew he knew... He was so open to the force... He could have stopped it all from occurring if he wasn’t such an open follower to the force. So force sensitive he figured out her plan then out of her own fear she wipes his fragile mind because she knew she could do it. Practically completely controlled by her.

Purely by its own example, when they remaster this game, I hope they keep her in mind for extra dialogue. Because her words to me, sound so beautiful, she was my inspiration to perceive the world just a little more different.

I am so glad someone is still making kotor movies. My favourite series. Thank you so much!

I NEVER unlocked this companion and i have never seen this dialogue. this shit is DEEP and INCREDIBLY SUSPICIOUS if you haven't beaten it before. Holy Fuck 10/10 villain and writing i have a MUCH greater love for this game now

"Do you think I seek the death of all living things? There is no victory in such things. I do not want to win our war like this, little Jedi. When I win, I wish it to be because I was right, my teachings true." I love this line so much. It's a core of my being. Wanting to pursue truth even if it requires pruning off old branches in order that new branches may sprout more/better fruits

"Must be hearing things" Kreia: *Zoooom!*

Was Kreia invisible to Mical the whole time? Cause he asks who are you and how long have you been here when he realizes she's a dark sider as if he saw her for the first time.

I can't help but giggle when kreia runs behind mical

must have been the wind

Scion: "I sense you my Master...faint...weak." Kreia: "You sense only what I allow you to sense." No, that line isn't in the game, but I wish it had been.

I never muchly cared for Mical. I found him interesting as being the only person to actually pose a slight problem to Kreia. But it was the restoration that made me realize he’s so much more complex and interesting than Brianna.

Jesus, I've played this game through a few times and enjoyed it immensely, and then I see heaps of stuff I haven't seen yet still, even years on. It's been years and this game is still styling on me.

Gah, I've been looking for a recording of this scene for a while - I only ever got this to show up once in my game, around probably my 15th playthrough... But that "What does a Jedi see? Only what I allow them to see" line has always stuck with me. Thanks for having uploaded this! So glad it just randomly popped up on my home page XD

4:08 GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD

I feel like I'm one of the few who preferred Mical as a character to Atton. Mical was wiser than his years, and had the strength to act on his hope. He knew the Jedi were flawed, but also knew that the galaxy was better off with them, and that the best thing to do was to try and influence them to be better. Plus his intelligence and foresight into the grander scheme of events unfolding throughout the plot really intrigued me

Playing female I felt like the Disciple understood more than anyone else how the galaxy and your actions have a cause and affect of sort. The way I saw him was someone who knew more then he let on besides Kreia. Atton, The Handmaiden, not even Visas understood but yet he did. He was closer to it then anyone else.

Amazing bit of Kreia's speech.

What does a Jedi see ? Only what i allow them to see. The explanation and origins of the technique that the rule of two sith practiced and Palpatine mastered.

0:21 Looks like Kreia had mastered yet another Force Technique: Instant Transmission

If only you could have chosen the dumb GOTO droid as a companion, lured him out into empty dunes or wasteland, and just ditched him there.

So basically, Mical actually realized, during this dialogue, that Kreia is in fact Arren Kae, Revan's former Master and a Sith Lord (/ Sith Mistress). That line, in which Mical says ''I know you... not even the markings of the Dark Side can hide it. Why have you done this?'', really suggests that Mical realizez Kreia is Arren Kae, who didn't die on Malachor V, but actually fell to the Dark Side and became a Sith. What Mical doesn't realizez is that Kreia/Arren Kae is both a Jedi and a Sith... and neither. She is the perfect psychopath, very similar to Palpatine/Darth Sidious.

Palpatine used the same technique Kreia did. Shows how powerful (and underused) he was.

I will never be able to truly understand this game. Every playthrough it reveals more and more... Perhaps I allowed it to have to big influence on my life

If they made a movie, this would be a killer horror sequence

4:08 sussus amogus

Absolutely No one: 4:08

This has to be the most Kreia's ever fucked with anyone. Just running around like a lunatic to make him jumpy. Hilarious.

4:08 amogus imposter 😳

Drax in Infinity War 4:10

I'd never really seen most of these scenes until recently because I always played male exile before

So Kreia is just a teacher whose thesis was continuously rejected? George Lucas could have learned a thing or two from this game.

In my first playthrough i thought Kreia was going to body him in their second cutscene

My student mical was why i quit being a jedi because i fell in love with mical.

In my book, this happens during the chapter “Final Judgment” in which Surik is about to die at the hands of Vrook Lamar.

Kreia being a major spook. What else is new?

I feel sad wen so much people dont understand her and her teachings :(

ok.... esto ahora parece película de terror 😨

When your godgrandmother is starting to sound like the heavy from tf2: 3:02

Keep up the content as always g

I can only imagine that mekal saw traya and not kriea in that moment. I only say this because I wonder how he perceived kriea's appearance we see her as kriea gold hair ornaments, brown cloak and elderly with a few wrinkles. But what about mekal? Did she change his perception of her so he could see the pale woman with black eyes and a frightening presence? I'm just curious about it all

If you just got all companions, regardless of what sex you chose, then no one would have any issue with Mical. He’s a perfectly fine character, and is genuinely worthy of respect, for how he sees through things. But why, in the name of all that is sane, they ever decided to have certain companions be decided by what sex you choose, is beyond me. They were controlling Star Wars lore with these characters. It’s tragic to think that in the canon version of events, a potential companion just doesn’t come along because you’re not a man. Yeah, it would have been literally impossible to get all your companions to become Jedi, if you had one more, but f*ck it. That decision was always the one criticism I had of KOTOR 2, and it honestly prevents the game from being a 10/10, because it locks players out of very interesting character stuff, before they’ve even truly started the game. Like, what? They came up with 10 ideas for companions, but some arbitrary rule kept them from including all 10, to they had to make one not accessible, based on the player’s sex? That’s the only reason I could possibly think of. And in that case, the answer is simple: Get rid of Goto. He has no purpose, story wise, once you leave the planet you find him on. And his thematic relevance could also be neatly tied up, there. No one cares about Goto. One final thought: The fact that you can only get most companions towards the end of a planet’s main storyline, is absolutely another thing that keeps this game from being a 10/10. I get it, there are story reasons for why, but even if Obsidian had all the time they needed to finish this game, there still would not have been enough content to properly train all your companions to become Jedi. You would have needed two full planets to be added, that have no new companions, and plenty of opportunities for companions to state their feelings, to unlock the chance to train them. Because even with the restored content mod, that only gives you one extra planet, and it’s one that has half its main plot pushed forward by one of the droid companions. So it leaves no opportunities to unlock the chance to train anyone. Like, why would Developers spend so long, carefully crafting a narrative, characters, and all that, just to make it so no player could ever experience it all in one playthrough? I get adding content through New Game +, but adding replayability by actively cutting off the player from being able to experience all aspects of the story, is ridiculous.

soooooo thats what kreia do for fun

OMG that gigantic floating droid ball is soooooooooooooo bad

Given that Force projection is now a thing, I wonder if Kreia knows the ability just to mess with Mical’s head.

she fucking with him is so fucking funny, i think she enjoyed haunting him like that

The Disciple playlist is missing his introduction (Also there's a special line in it that you can only get if you have Mira in your party that I haven't seen uploaded anywhere else)

I know Nihilus was the one who could consume life in this game, but do you think The Disciple was seeing a vision of what Vitiate/ Valkorion had planned for the Galaxy? He's the only sith we know who wanted to completely eradicate all life in the galaxy to become immortal, while Nihilus had to in order to live.

As a female Exile it would have been a tough choice between Mical and Arron You have the choice of Mical the White Knight in a Castle Or Going on a quest with Atton the Dark Prince

So....was Kreia the one who taught Batman how to disappear? Or did she teach it to Ras Al Gul first and then he taught it to Bruce?

4:08

We can just label this kreia fucking with the disciple

4:08 what?

Kreia is such a weirdo...

bioware was soo good at squeezing you into a corner and making you choose ALSO DOORS BIOWARE WAS REALLY REALLY GOOD AT DOORS

How do I get these new scenes of the companions even hk killing goto for Xbox

How did I miss this guy on every single playthrough?

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Ok, I am thoroughly confused as to what Mical is understanding here. could someone explain this to me? (Yes, I have played Kotor 1 and 2) At first glance, it seems like he's detecting Nihilus, but as the discussion progresses it becomes more and more unlikely. So then it stands to reason that he's sensing how the Exile is a wound in the force...but that doesn't make sense either, because the Exile isn't the cause of the decay of Dantoine, Nar Shadaa, etc. So perhaps it's Kreia's schemes then since he asks her why she is doing what she is doing (and she was the one who trained Nihilus to become a wound in the force), but she laughs at him for thinking that she would be the one causing the "echo". But her response also doesn't make sense: she wanted to kill the force, which kind of involves (at least nearly) killing the entire galaxy. And then on top of that, it is never clarified what the "echo" is an echo of!! What is going on?!

And here i thought she didn't have the years required to stalk children. :) Granny, i know it's fun, but we call that - molesting, in this day and age. P.S. The Exile: (watching in cameras at 0:33) Hag finally lost it. =_\\ Atton: (from cockpit) L.O.L. xD

So what exactly is going on in the galaxy?

Kreia is massive OP

Due to an oversight, Mical can be turned into a jedi as soon as you find him on Dantooine. But this cutscene logic implies that he isn't. In the end you get a stupid continuity error that Kreia, although a being of great power, can mask his presence in front of a by now probably Jedi Consular who has Force Sense strong enough to feel Nihilus from accross quite a few star systems. But eh.

Odd and possibly random thought but I believe Mical was intended to be Arren Kae’s (Kreia) son in the female storyline but that part was cut short due to cut content. One thing I’ve noticed in wiki that both Mical and Brianna were born on the same year (along with Visas but that’s irrelevant) but there’s more than that. How would Mical know Revans master, Arren Kae, when she was exiled before he came on Dantooine as a Padawan and right before Meetra went off to fight the Mandalorian War? Now he could have done his research, but one thing that was bothersome was how Kreia hid from Mical the most out of the female exiles group (also more than Brianna) and her saying “You know who I am, but you will be unable to voice it, to remember it” was unexpected unless they had some sort of connection beforehand. Another key is the way Kreia describes him and his future. Saying how he could have been much more after he had figured out the web of worlds. Though there isn’t much to say about Micals character, personality wise, it’s something interesting Kreia describes his future if the Exile takes the dark side path. How he would become a Senator for a planet and would cut ties with the Jedi code and the force entirely after being betrayed many times over. It’s as if Kreia wanted that for him because it’s not a complete evil/murderous choice like Arron and even Brianna, but something that would take off his wide eye innocence .

Where do you get him?

This doesn't make any sense to me. I really dislike philosophy but I can't get enough of the philosophy of Kreia. I honestly think she's the best written Star Wars character.

How did he figure it out though?

What mods do you have?

Mical is such a fool.

You know…… I kept killing him when I first met him… didn’t know he could be a companion 😂😅

I just can't look up to an obvious, yet subtle for some people, manipulator and snake. No thanks. Kreia's ideas, actions and philosophy should be studied, sure, but they should never - I repeat - NEVER be replicated in such a way she envisioned them. Her followers always claim that people like the Jedi are cowards for not accepting the truth, and while that's true, they as well are too cowardly to accept that she's essentially a psychotic woman in the end with her own selfish and fucked up desires disguised as someone who means well, which is a result of fans who become worshipers instead of actual readers and seekers of truth and objectivity as critics.

Is this a mod?

Is this part of an expansion or a Mod? I've never sen this guy...