How to Know if God Wants You to LEAVE Your Church w/ Derek Cummins 

Many cradle Catholics will never understand the mental gymnastics and spiritual struggle that one goes through in order to convert. A loving community is necessary that is charitable. I’m in RCIA and I cannot wait for the moment I am able to receive the Eucharist. That is what called me…Jesus. I prayed about it and things fell into place. I prayed the rosary daily even though at the time I was scared I was committing a sin. Mary guided me to the one holy apostolic church. God bless you in your journey.

I was born Catholic, but in my young adult years I left it all behind. I was sure there had to be a better way. So, I wandered for years. I ended up digging into the New Age movement because I was doing yoga and had some very spiritual experiences. But, I could never completely surrender to the nothingness. So, I searched through the New Age stuff. Every thing I read always would talk about Jesus but more as a spiritual teacher or prophet, but not as God. Which I thought was weird. And, they always tried to reach out to spiritual guides, but it wasn't like they were searching for heaven. Then I got really sick (I look at it as God needed to do something drastic to get my attention), I had no idea how I was going to get better or even what was wrong with me. And, it came into my head that I needed to surrender it to Jesus and ask for His help. It was a horrible time I finally got a diagnosis and treatment, but it was really the beginning of my suffering. In the time I got some relief from my illness, I started attending a Lutheran church. Figured it was Catholic light. Like I was dipping my toes back into Christianity. I was still keeping my options open and reading New Age materials. I got a book on guy who had received all kinds of amazing and prophetic messages. One of the things he did was to read the Bible cover to cover every year of his life. So, I figured maybe I should do that too and I could get closer to God that way. I told my Lutheran pastor that I was doing it and he said most people never make it through. So, I was determined to do it. After that first reading, all I saw was the covenants and consuming Christ in the Eucharist was necessary to be in covenant. I also saw the entire mass fall out of the pages. Protestants always say so proudly how they are Bible believing churches, but what I discovered was that the Catholic church was the Bible Living church. That at every mass we step into the Bible and walk in the footsteps of Jesus. It wasn't long after that I left the Lutheran Church. It probably took another year to come home to the Catholic Church. It is everything I was searching for and more!

Tonight I finally resigned my position at the Protestant church I’ve worked at for nearly four years as music director. The place where my family grew from two to five - one baby here, one with the Lord, and one in the womb… We are plunging fully into Eastern Catholicism. Pray for us 😭🙏

In discerning, we have to be careful of delusions of grandeur. God's plan for most people is to simply live well, plug away at your station in life, grow in union with him through good works (and yes, suffering), prayer, and the sacraments, affect others through that witness, and then die. If when you consider this as his likely plan for you and you think 'this can't be it, because it is too simple or imperfect or intellectually neat and tidy' it may be your pride getting in the way.

I have known so many people from all kinds of sects of Christian faith that treat other denominations as unsaved. According to some Catholics I've known, -anybody who is not a Catholic is not saved. According to some Protestants I've known, -anybody who is Catholic is not saved. I've talked with a couple of Apostolics who argued that if I don't speak in tongues, then I don't have the Holy Spirit (which to my understanding is the assurance of our salvation). As for me, I feel my spiritual gift is the ability to feel other people's spirit (to a degree). There are times I meet somebody, and I can sense the Holy Spirit inside them, and I instantly know they're Christians. I've known Catholics and Protestants of all sub-denominations like this. I've not known enough Jews or Orthodox to detect such a similar thing. That the Orthodox community says you have to renounce certain things, I think, is problematic. But I must say the same thing with Catholics and the dogmas. Of course, I've also known plenty of Protestants who paint with the same broad brush of condemning anybody who slightly differs. But this is why I think the catholic (lower case "c") church is so important. Catholicism can't be the way to heaven, because Chinese Christians wouldn't agree with all Catholic theology. Eastern Orthodox can't be the way to heaven, because many of us in the West don't know their theology. Baptists and Evangelicals can't be the way to heaven, because most of the world doesn't know their opinion. Jesus is the way to heaven. At the center of it all is Christ, -that's why we're called Christians; it's what C.S. Lewis called "Mere Christianity", or the famous saying, "In essentials: unity, in non-essentials: harmony." I love theological debate, and value pursuing what is objectively true, but at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if you're Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or Messianic: you are a Christian.

I grew up Charismatic Protestant and I experienced some of the same things he is talking about when I was on the journey to become Catholic. As a charismatic, for years, I saw people talking about what God had shown them or told them etc, and most of the time they were either wrong, or the revelation they had eventually just kind of faded away as though it had never been (which I also classify under "they were wrong"). I saw people who were leaders of our church claim that God told them exactly opposite things about the direction the church should go etc. What I learned from all that was that you should not put your feelings in the place of God. Do not put absolute trust in what you feel. Most of all, distrust that which tells you what you want to hear. I know my reason is flawed and finite. Thus I know that I am extremely capable of being wrong. However, Intellect is what God gave us to seek and find truth. I also put my faith in the Bible, particularly passages like "knock and it shall be opened, seek and you shall find..." and "if any of you lack wisdom ask God who gives liberally and without reproach and it will be given to him". I take these verses to mean that it is an absolute guarantee that if you seek honestly for truth, and ask honestly for wisdom with humility and obedience in your heart, then God will lead you to the truth. I followed my reason, with the prayer that God would give me wisdom, and the pledge that I would always be open to correction. There were many points where I prayed something like "I think the Catholic Church is true, but I'm not sure about this particular point, so God if I'm wrong in following the Church into this belief/practice, then both forgive the transgression and deliver me from the error" More than once I prayed "If I am accepting this simply because I like it, and I'm biased, then please make it clear and show me the truth" I'm a big advocate for not trusting yourself too much. But there also does come a point where you have to realize that God gave you your mind for a reason, and you should let it do it's job, and simply trust that if you are making mistakes, but you are willing to submit to God's correction, that you move forward, until God makes it clear you need to move in a different direction. Rely less on oracles and more on God's gift of wisdom, and above all humility and love of truth.

When I knew my time as an Anglican was coming to an end, I knew my only options were Orthodoxy and Catholicism. I get your agonizing over discernment and weighing the attractions of both. I came into the Catholic Church (and indeed am a priest), but I still cast a loving eye towards Orthodoxy from time to time. But we're both apostolic churches; you're not going to go far wrong with either. But for Pete's sake, make a decision and commit yourself somewhere!

Going from being raised in a Protestant Church of Christ to Catholic at age 30 I realized there is an authority and that authority won't be broken. That is why I think the Catholic church is right. It got to the point where I thought if that authority is broken, then what can truly be true?

Am now 68. Grew up in a Catholic home. When I was about 17 I realized I didn't know what I believe. Agnostic. Depression. Searched desperately for the answer. Met a Believer. Prayed for me. Showed me God's Word. Got saved. Depression gone. Ever since a believer in Jesus Christ. Praise God forevermore, and his Son. He is, literally, the only "Way, the Truth and the Life". Not Religion. Not any religion. And, I am a member of a Christian Church. Have been since then.

Thank you for your honesty. So many people can relate, I’m sure. I know I can. My mother is Anglican and my Father Catholic. After spending much of my teen years spiritually homeless, I came back to Christianity but didn’t know which church to be a part of. I love something in most denominations. But I was baptised Catholic so I made the choice to remain Catholic as I felt it was where God put me. I love my faith and would now consider myself a ‘gentle traditionalist’ but I still get so much from Charismatic and Orthodox spirituality. Whenever I have ever thought of leaving and going to another church I get this profound sense of homesickness. During difficult times, such as the Pachamama scandal and all the repression of the Tridentine Mass and I’ve wondered if I should be somewhere else, I’ve instinctively shut the door on all the arguments and gone back to ( the secret place), prayer, adoration and The Bible. The most stabilising thing for me has always been to return to the basics time and time again. When all the devotions and theology get too confusing I just go back to the simplicity of The Sermon on the Mount and the gospels and proverbs and the psalms. I go back to Jesus. The person of Jesus is the root of the root and our true home. Then I ask myself, what can best aid me to live these truths of Jesus? For me, personally, the sacraments and devotions of the Catholic faith help me do this so that is why I stay.

I am a catholic convert. I knew the church was true because I saw a catholic mass and felt Jesus right there with me.

Courage to discuss this touchy subject

I feel like for most people, the most prudent choice is to approach God the way he has approached you. If you are baptised, start with the community you were baptised in, and spend most of your energy (and time, probably years) trying to grow in holiness, rather than trying to discern exactly which church you're supposed to do it at. After a few years there, you'll have much more information and experience, and can go from there. If you're not baptised, try whichever community appealed to you first, and do the same thing. You can get the basics almost anywhere, and if the truth does lie somewhere else, you'll likely be drawn there over time eventually anyway. Honestly, even if you remained in the 'wrong' place, if you spent your time there earnestly trying to love God and grow in holiness, that's really most of what mattered anyway. Nobody's ever been damned on a technicality.

He sounds so lost. But what he’s talking about is not a smart way to go about it. If my husband thought this way we would have had zero religion. My husband is catholic, for 10 years of our marriage I was not, he never pressured me he never thought oh no well I gotta be what she is because she won’t join. No he was on his journey, and the beauty of his dedication and my own lost feeling lead me to Catholicism. To me it sounds like an excuse. Nothing will be perfect and it takes years and years for us who converted to the faith to truly understand the beauty. But you must take the first leap. I hope he finds what he’s looking for.

May God bless you in your discernment brother. There's something that you didn't seem to mention. Whichever way you go, as a father, you may not always be right, BUT YOU MUST ALWAYS LEAD. You have to make a choice. While you dither, your children do not have a solution and direction. Your wife does not have a direction. You. You proceed searching but not providing the solution. You are not leading as a father must. Choose a path and go. Your family suffered liability until you take up your mantle. You seem like a good man, you will not choose something evil. The only evil will be abdicating your responsibility. Do your best and drive on. Be a man, trust in the Lord, choose a path, and be humble enough to hear his voice.

I get the struggle. Raised Catholic, and with poor catechesis and no one to answer my questions, I drifted away. Came back about a decade ago and have never felt quite settled. Catholicism is my patrimony, and I can't dismiss the authority given to Peter and the weight that holds in keeping me in the flock, even when all I want to do is run. I've tried Orthodoxy more times than I can count. The theology of the East appeals very strongly to me, but I can't leave. Most I can do is attend an Eastern Catholic church. It feels like sitting on the fence, but I'm at a loss for what else to do.

Don’t overthink it, bro. Listen to your heart and resist the temptation to dualism. One step at a time. I see you want to jump all in the deep end one way or the other, because I share that temperament. Pray for humility, and shift your focus in prayer to listening. Binge on some Dr. David Anders, and you’ll be home before you know it. One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic. Find your actual Roman Catholic parish based on where you live, and pour your efforts into that parish to make disciples, baptizing, and teaching. No more church hopping. Commit.

I was I my 4th year of school and my sister and we used to play with the Church if England ministers son. My parents had just divorced. The minister came and told us we could no longer play together because our parents were divorced!!! That was the last time I went to that Church. We were sent to a Catholic boarding school and I decided then and there I was going to be a Catholic. I was received into the Church when I was 18. We were a group of young people who did a lot together. What changed was Vatican 2 and we were pretty lax. What has happened now has renewed me and I am sure if anyone is still alive them too

Yes, the Lord may be leading you where you do not want to go! #Jesus #Apostles

I have close friends who appear to be on a journey to discover what they believe. They dive in deep and practice very hard what they discover and believe at that time. Every few months they appear to lean towards something different more than before... more Evangelical, then it's more Jewish, then it's more Protestant... I really won't be surprised if in several years they come to the end conclusion that the Catholic Church is the final result of their journey. It won't be without much resistance, as nearly everyone outside the Church believes it is something that it is not. When people truly search, and explore history and why things are as they are (something as simple as the creation of the Bible), the revelation is that the truth is in the one Holy and Apostolic Catholic Church. And with that said, many converts make excellent Catholics as they have lived outside the Church and appreciate knowing what it means to worship and glorify God in the Church created by Christ himself.

I could be totally off base, but I'm hearing a problem that seems all too similar to what I'm experiencing with my girlfriend and potential wife someday. Our faith and worship expressions, due to our love for Christ, are not truly united and it is causing significant problems that can no longer be ignored. I'm an established (born again) Catholic and she just moved from being a seeker to being baptized outside the Catholic Church, which is fine and was a great blessing, the day after Christmas. We have attended Catholic Mass, Calvary Chapel, and Messianic Synagogue together, but the differences are contributing to our disunity and any real honest ability to raise children together (when the time comes) in unity and without confusion. The Eucharistic miracle itself is a non-negotiable for me that she recognizes and agrees with but does not fully understand or practice rightly. Anyway, sorry for talking so much about myself, but I couldn't help but think that this man's struggles are due in part or in full to the lack of alignment he has with his wife for living in a different community of faith. In Christ, Andrew

God is truth. So wherever truth speaks to something, God is speaking to that something in some way.

Brother in Christ. I love your channel. You have great content. May I offer one tiny suggestion? If you would Like more subscribers ? Please invite some more people who are radically different to you; where you lovingly engage in dialogue with non Christians. You have great guests but they all seem to be white, male christians and you agree with them (nothing wrong with that - I happen to be married to someone wonderful who fits that description). You have so much to give to non Christians. Be bold and love those who have not yet experienced the love of Christ. Show them how much we love our Lord by loving those who are still in the darkness of the world. Love you bro- keep going!

St. Ignatius, satan will tempt us to a lower good to keep us from a higher good.

Derek, I was raised Assemblies of God, and graduated Rhema (Kenneth Hagin), became a pastor but became Catholic 22 years ago. The gifts in you will make a room for you in the Church. You will have a vocation. God wants unity in His Body and it can only come by the Apostle's successors in union with Peter's successor. We (wife and 9 kids) have found a happy home in the SSPX chapel of the Catholic Church, due to the current state of the Church. It takes humility and courage but God exalts those who are bowed down. Read Psalms 133.

What do you think of the neocathecumenal way?

Look for the church the world rejects because it claims it is infallible, as Pilate rejected Christ because He called Himself the Truth.

What a lovely, sincere man Derek is. And what uncharitable comments can be read here. I will just say that Orthodoxy is a path of darkness, don't expect it to feel right, don't expect it to be rational and logical. It will leave you totally out of your comfort zone and you will experience the depth of difference between us and God, but you will experience God. If you are looking for peace in disappointment and light in darkness, then it is your path. If you want brilliance, rationality, baroque music, gothic cathedrals and the feeling of being right, then be Catholic.

Am I the only one who read "time to leave" as "time travel"?

This conversation is weirdly egocentric. It shouldn't be this difficult....

I'm REALLY getting upset by this guy's constant whining. Day after day I hear this on your fine program. This fellow needs an experienced spiritual counselor. Get over yourself, buddy. It appears you have a boatload of genuine spiritual issues. God Bless!

I don't belong to a community church. My going to a church diminishes a lot of mens' lies. It's one one those things where I take it for the team. I couldn't pretend to authentically respect them, anyway.

As someone trying to discern between Roman Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy, this video was not helpful. I would Dislike it if RU-vid fixed its castrated Liking system. It was mostly a survey of relationship pressures -- the majority of the video is irrelevant to its stated title. In the final two minutes he reveals his preference for emotion, whereas this is a question of fact, and admits he lacks the time to arrive at a confidently-studied conclusion about the facts. Was this video automatically cut and uploaded by software Fradd relying upon to make decisions for him? Very poor decision to post this time-wasting video. Nothing helpful in this video except to generate sympathy in onlookers unaware of the situation, which seems of limited benefit. This video decreases the likelihood I will watch future snippets from Pints With Aquinas. To answer the titular question, something the video fails to do: My current 'best answer' is to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide and reveal and to spend at least 10 minutes daily studying the facts until one discovers "the truth" (and to join the larger diocese in your area until you find it) -- e.g. A) papal supremacy was widely held by pre-schism Christians; B) Vatican councils introduced heresies relative to the Church Fathers and pre-schism councils ...

Fr. Mark Thibodeaux is on Connie Rossini’s list of problematic authors.

Ask Jesus His Will for you, and do His Will, not your own.

God does not want Derek Cummins in the Orthodox Church.

Totally blasphemous thumbnail. To think that you call yourself a Christian.

It was easy for me. The head Priest started expressing clear heresy.

I took this personally as I've been to many a protestant church and a handful of heretical sects as well as some various Catholic parishes. I studied Orthodoxy and, I fell in love with the liturgy but was heartbroken by the divide that is visibly present. And, now that I'm a Catholic goin on three years, I'm in a place where I see various different people saying various different things that are not only laity but ordained ministers that are pushing political views, rather than focusing on the Gospel, the sacrifice of the Mass, and I think personally that, though I'm understanding of the basics of the Catholic faith, and am comfortable with them, I think we all need to reroute ourselves to the basics and dedicate our lives to the sacraments and the faithful teachings of the Church. Focusing on Christ's sacrifice is what will bring us together. Embodying it is what will save us. Edit: I would like to add that, I'm not being ecumenical and that there is an absolute truth and stable doctrine that presides within the Catholic Church that, I personally cannot abandon, and that, this wasn't merely my own journey, but my fiancee's. She and I converted together, becoming Catholic together when everyone was against us. We made a decision as a couple that changed our lives forever and have stuck with it in the hardships and the moments of pure happiness and joy. I believe that the Catholic Church is Christ's Church.

As someone going through a discernment process over a serious matter myself, Derek's process for deciding one way or another was surprisingly relatable. Especially at the mention of the use of the imagination, and then wondering if the happiness of those imaginings is merely a worldly happiness. Derek is a very interesting and well spoken man and I wish him God's graces along his journey.

This is bringing me to tears...I can totally relate to his honest answers. I appreciate Derek's honesty and vulnerability. I've asked God so many times why I am walking through this valley and just trying to be close to Him, but also confused and ever-aware of my own limitations. My husband is a Protestant (Non-Denominational) Pastor and I've been a lay missionary for several years. In many ways, I believe there was a pull towards Catholicism since long before my Bible College days, but in many ways, it took me by surprise (as the daughter of former Catholics-turned-evangelicals). I love that you interview all different kinds of people on your channel, Matt! You're a great listener, and through the struggle, I am also edified. God is meeting me here in this place of longing, as I'm trying to reach out for Him. God bless you both!

God wants all of us in His Church. The Catholic Church.

"When you seek truth, you seek God whether you know it or not" Quote St Edith Stein a great Saint, a philosopher, a Jewish convert, a Carmilite nun and died in Auschwitz. The Catholic Church has some great Saints, we have to bloom where we are planted..God bless your journey. 🙏

Totally like what I'm going through. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who has delt with it. The worst part of it is if I can't raise my kids in the Faith I feel like a terrible parent. I feel like a failure to them and to God.

I resonate with much of what has been said here. I was a Protestant senior pastor for 23 years. I vacillated between the catholic and orthodox churches. It seemed that the besetting sin of Catholicism was antinomianism, where the besetting sin of orthodoxy was legalism. We finally decided to become orthodox. This lasted a little over two years, and was deadening to our souls. We are now Catholic and have found our home.

Analysis paralysis

Exactly the things I'm feeling in my heart are being discussed by good Christian YT Channels. Like the Lord wants to console his suffering children who, of one spirit, are groaning for all thats going on. We see it, many don't sadly. Another Catholic just made a video thats getting a lot of attention and now he's being called a conspiracy nut but I'm worried he may be right. That video also came out just as I was having the same suspicions as him. All coincidence?

I got into trouble from the Priest and parishioners in the late 1990 for leaving Divine Mercy Prayer Cards. It was time to leave the Novus Ordo and with miraculous Divine intervention found Traditional Tridentine Mass being brought up totally NO haven't looked backwards.

I am 28 and I have been an atheist for the last 15 years. I recently started believing in God again. It just happened, my mind changed completely in a week and all the arguments I used to have for being an atheist started sounding hollow and stupid. Now what do I do? What's the next step? My boyfriend (with whom I live and whom I intend to marry) is still a hard-core atheist and he doesn't want me to go to church. But even if I could manage to attend mass, what church should I choose? As a baby I was baptized in the Romanian Orthodox Church and my family is still outwardly Orthodox (they are not truly believers but they would expect me to perform Orthodox social formalities, like having an Orthodox wedding and baptizing my children Orthodox for the sake of tradition). It would be easier therefore to chose Orthodoxy. On the other hand, I am very attracted to Catholicism (maybe also because Catholic fasting rules aren't as strict as Orthodox one - I don't know if I can refrain from eating meat, dairy and eggs for 40 days of Lent). Also, there is the issue of politics or worldliness: the Catholic church seems to be more involved in politics, Corona restrictions and so on, while the Romanian Orthodox Church has fortunately until now refrained from such involvement. Is it wrong to consider the fasting rules and politics when choosing a church?

Derek, I've recently gone through the same anguish. Just want to say that I'm elderly my circumstances would' nt change no matter which church I chose, but when I tried to discern I too found the Catholic Church seemed large and full of light; the Eastern Church restricted and dark. Nothing to do with any personal advantage - and I don't even like gothic!

Derek, Suffering seems to present a problem for you as though being a Christian means to suffer. For me, knowing Christ is all joy and has made the suffering in my life have meaning. Example: I exercise to stay in shape. But initially, my muscles hurt as I use them to strengthen them. But this suffering I know leads to joy. And now I know that as I pray, I get to know God and He fills me with joy. Paul learned that on the road to Damascus. But it took him 3 years to fully understand Christ's message and calling, which he would never have understood if he had not spent his whole life up to that time learning the Old Testament. Jesus opened his eyes to what the Old Testament was saying, and Paul changed from arresting Christian Jews to proclaiming Jesus. He could not have done this without being completely filled with joy from the Holy Spirit. His whole life was a life or prayer. Isn't that what we are asked to do? Do it. I'm positive God will guide you and your family where He wants you. That is what the Trinity has done for me. We don't have to be intellectual giants, only prayerful ones. Examine the life of Bernedette of Lourdes and the three children of Fatima. They prayed.

You can't 'choose' to leave your church; that's such a profoundly individualistic and modern way of looking at the Faith. I mean not even Martin Luther 'chose' to leave his church, in fact he stayed where he was. Is not our placement in this world a Divine call to serve where we are?

There have been many a great convert who have developed an incredible love for Jesus apart from the Catholic Church, like Scott Hahn. Though the reason most of them convert to Catholicism is because they sense something missing in their own denomination or belief and they search until they find the truth of the Catholic Church and fall in love with the wholeness of it and how their love for Jesus fits perfectly in the Church.

The last Catholic Church I tried to attend had a Deacon leading the mass. The earring in his ear was bigger than any I have ever owned. But the last straw was when he began a sermon by describing how spiritual the Dalai Lama is.

I will tell you from my own personal experience and from stories I have heard from many, many, many other people.... If you are struggling to make a decision and do not know which is the right one, pray to the Blessed Virgin with perseverance! Perhaps consider saying a 54-day rosary novena. She has never yet failed me to find the right answer, or anyone else I know who has turned to her!

The Catholic Church is Holy and Apostolic.

For people criticizing Derek's waffling, perhaps you haven't gone through the experience of actually giving a fair shake to different Christian traditions. Why do you think it is that there are pious, intelligent, and faithful people willing to die for the faith in so many Christian traditions (including, gasp, Protestants). At some point, it's a leap of faith. It's ironic to me that some of the most well respected and revered Christian leaders are charitable towards other Christian traditions and ecumenical, but people on RU-vid comments are dogmatic hardliners with zero charity.

The only thing keeping me in Roman Catholicism is Mary in her approved apparitions...Quito, The Miraculous Medal, LaSallette, , Fatima, Our Lday of Revelarion, and some mystics like Padre Pio, Bl. Fr. Solaris Casey, St. Francis and St. Clare, etc. Without them , forget it. Eastern Catholicism I think, is superior, though. Maybe that is the answer.

What is God’s holy will? In Exodus and Leviticus it is clear that God showed the chosen people how to worship Him. Clearly there was the priesthood, sacrifice and an alter. Then The last supper shows us the new covenant. Our new sacrifice is bread in wine. “This is my Body, This is my Blood”. God’s will is clear. The only time Jesus let his follows walk away is when they couldn’t accept that Jesus said unless you eat my body and drink my blood… The symbolism is the manna that came down from heaven to lead people to the chosen land. Now we have Jesus himself, feeding us with His body disguised as the bread. He is leading us to heaven the promised land. Belonging to a corrupt church with many evil leaders is not always pleasant but it is God’s Holy will. He even allowed a corrupt apostle in his circle within the chosen 12.

Could God want a good Catholic to leave the church that Christ founded, and thus be eternally lost?

I was born into a Catholic family and went to a Catholic school as a youth (before Vatican II) We were taught that the Catholic Church is the true church and all other churches are false. After Vatican II, all that changed and the "old" church was driven away and we now have a new church and a new religion in which all religions are valid and so the Catholic Church became just another church among many. I don't feel that the modern church is the true church and adhered to the Traditional Latin Mass for as long as I could. Recently, the Traditional Mass has been taken away and I don't feel like I left the church...it left me. I contemplated for a little while about giving in to modernism and becoming a protestant by joining another church but then realized that I don't have to, because the modern catholic church as become Protestant itself. The Reformers have finally convinced the Catholic Church leadership that after just over 450 years, they were right and the Catholic Church is now abiding by their practices and many of their beliefs. Many priests and layman no longer believe in the true presence in the Hole Eucharist, and why should they. With all the casualness of receiving in the hand by layman and the priest not having to keep his fingers together after the consecration...etc. I'm drifting on my own now and will do the best I can but I know that I can no longer rely on the "Catholic Church" for proper direction.

That was odd. I kept thinking he must have way too much time on his hands and he’s a tad too self-absorbed.

The Catholic Church is the Church Christ founded. So you need to be in His Church! Definitely stop overthinking and complicating things. I also dont know why the things you mentioned at the Trinity Church such as the rosary and Marian devotion and theology turned you away. Praying the rosary and stop overthinking and be Catholic.

This man needs to study the word of God, a good place to start is Romans and then John. This way he will learn the condition of fallen man and Gods saving grace.

It's a wonder this guy was able to get dressed, choose eye wear, pick a wife...so many choices!

When Jesus says i will build my Church...what he means is the Catholic Church...dont you believe Jesus?...

The Orthodox Church is the only true and faithful Church ❤☦

God wants Derek to lead his wife & family to the TRUTH & the One, Holy, Catholic & Apostolic Church✝️🙏🏻