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How to Make a Cabochon-A Complete Tutorial 

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A cabochon is a domed stone with a flat back used in making jewelry. I'll show you exactly how I make one, starting with a slab and ending with the finished product.
Here's the groove wrap tutorial I mentioned in the video: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/t...
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@jonathanyoung7785
@jonathanyoung7785 Год назад
We have a different approach to forming the dome which produces a different result. I grind a 45 degree bevel about 1/3 into the face of the cab. Then, I grind about a 20 degree bevel that half way overlaps the 45 bevel and extends about 80-90% to the center of the cab. Finally, I grind a very low bevel (around 10 degrees, perhaps) that slightly overlaps the 20 degree bevel and extends right to the center of the cab. (Smaller cabs usually only get two bevels.) So when I finish grinding the the bevels, there is no flat spot in the middle of the cab. Instead, there are three distinct beveled planes that completely cover the face of the cab. Only at that point do I round out the bevels, which results in an even dome that covers the entire face of the cab. The way you do it, you have a more steeply angled dome around the edges, and a very slightly angled dome in the middle. The middle of your cabs are not perfectly flat, but it is much flatter than the edges near the girdle. Your cabs look nice and there is more than one way to make a cab. Personally, I prefer a more even dome since light reflects evenly from the surface of the cab, and an even dome makes the cab look more like a gemstone in my opinion. It is also easier to remove scratches from a more even dome. You are likely familiar with the technique I use, and perhaps you simply like your way better. But if you have not tried it the other way, you should, so you can compare the results.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks, Jonathan, I was hoping to get some suggestions like this. I have not tried the method that you described, but I definitely will. If I understand you right, you spend a lot more time grinding bevels and less time rocking the rock back and forth from the edge to the center. I'm excited to try that out.
@jonathanyoung7785
@jonathanyoung7785 Год назад
Imagine that you want to turn a wooden square into a circle. You have a circular saw and a sander, but no way to mark out the shape of a circle. How can you create a circle through cutting and/or sanding? You could use only the sander and try to simply round off the corners of the square to form a circle. That wouldn't work very well. (This is how I first tried to make a cabochon -- merely by grinding from the edges to the center with grinding any bevels. It didn't work very well.) Now consider what would happen if you use the circular saw to cut an octagon by removing a triangle from each corner, and then round off the octogon into a circle with the sander. The result would be better. But a sander is slower and imprecise, so you might end up with something more like a rounded off octogon than a circle. Now imagine first cutting an octogon, and then cutting a triangle from each point of the octagon to form a shape with 16 sides, and doing this one more time to create a shape with 32 sides. At that point, you could use the sander to e round off the 32 points and end up with a pretty good circle. Here is the key point: the circle emerges almost entirely from cutting angles and not from trying to form curves. It is a clunky metaphor, but your doming technique is like cutting an octogon (the first bezel) and the going right to the sander. No matter how much you try to continue to form the dome by rocking from the edge to the center, it is very difficult to form an even dome this way. I know because I made cabochons like that for a long time. By grinding two or three partially overlapping bevels before smoothing out the dome, the rocking back and forth part will go very quickly and can be done with a fairly light touch. All you will be doing is knocking down the ridges between the bevels (like sanding the 32 sided shape into a circle). Cabbing wheels are very good at knocking down small ridges. When I dome a cabochon, 80% of the time is spent grinding the bevels, and 20% is spent rounding off the dome with the 80 grit and 220 grit hard wheels. I knock off the tops of the ridges with the 80 grit wheel, and then use the 220 to fine tune the dome and remove the ridges entirely. After a minute or two on the 220 wheel, I hold the cab up to eye level looking directly at the side (the girdle). The dome should look evenly rounded when viewed from any direction. The beauty of this technique is that if you simply follow the process, it will create a wonderfully even dome on any cabochon shape. It will take some time and close attention to angles to grind multiple bevels that cover the entire face of the cab. This gets faster and easier with practice, although it will always be time consuming for hard materials. But it shouldn't make the overall cabbing process any slower because you will be able to move through the resin wheels more quickly if you start with an even done. The resin wheels do an excellent job of removing scratches from a rounded surface, and struggle to remove scratches from a flat or only slightly rounded surface. That is why people often struggle with scratches in the middle of their cabs. If the middle of the cab is less domed than the edges, it will be harder to remove scratches from the middle. Indeed, pretty much any time that I notice scratches that require me to move backwards to a coarser grit wheel to remove them, I can trace the problem to a little part of the dome that wasn't rounded as evenly as the rest. Finally, here are two tricks. When first learning this technique, it can be hard to grind the second and third bevels at a consistent angle and to the same depth all the way around the cab. There is a simple trick that makes this easier. After you grind each bevel, the flat part that remains at the center of the cab should be the exact same shape as the outside of the cab, just smaller. So if you are doing a teardrop shape, you will have a flat teardrop in the middle of the cab after grinding the first bevel, and a smaller flat teardrop in the middle after the second bevel. The second trick is a way to test the evenness of the dome on a completed cab. If you have a tube light in your basement, stand under it while tilting the cab towards and away from the light. If the dome is evenly rounded, the reflection of the tube light will remain a straight line as you tilt the cab. You will be able to immediately spot areas where the dome is uneven because the reflection of the tube light will bend. On materials like crazy lace agate, where the pattern is the main attraction and the colors are opaque, you may find that having a more evenly rounded dome doesn't look all that different. But with more "gemmy" material, be it amethyst, rose quartz, or even just solid red jasper, an even dome will change the appearance dramatically, and in my opinion, for the better.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Wow, that's a great explanation and I really appreciate you taking the time to write it up. I also need to come over to your place and take a lesson. Weren't you just learning stuff from me a year or two ago? Boy, things have changed!
@shong9435
@shong9435 9 дней назад
​@@jonathanyoung7785 супер!👍
@kellyharper367
@kellyharper367 Год назад
Old disabled house bound dusty rusty rockhound here: Beautiful job! Makes me miss my lapidary shop.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I'm sure having fun in mine.
@angiewright692
@angiewright692 Год назад
Rubbing alcohol works for removing sharpie, and it's less expensive than acetone.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
That's good to know. Thanks!
@HWCism
@HWCism Год назад
Very impressive. I am a retired Optician and did a lot of hand shaping with glass before plastic took over. Brought back memories. Thanks
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You’re welcome. Your work must have had to have been much more precise.
@HWCism
@HWCism Год назад
Yes but not as beautiful.
@nancyhainline2517
@nancyhainline2517 Год назад
Thanks. Made my first cabochon last Sat. Had minimal direction. Wish I had seen your tutorial first.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Just think about your second cab!
@nancyhainline2517
@nancyhainline2517 Год назад
@@MichiganRocks thanks
@greatnorthernviews3052
@greatnorthernviews3052 Год назад
You are definitely good at making cabs! You have a good eye for detail. And patients they seem to turn out well. And your machinery is awesome ! Good job Rob!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks! I haven't really made that many cabs compared to a lot of people. I'm sure there are plenty of tricks that I don't know yet.
@greatnorthernviews3052
@greatnorthernviews3052 Год назад
@@MichiganRocks You can only get better. Practice makes perfect.
@xxzoomfractalchannelxx8676
@xxzoomfractalchannelxx8676 Год назад
Nice!
@IndigoCobalt
@IndigoCobalt Год назад
It’s neat to see it from start to finish. Thank you for taking the time to film and edit such a great video!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@MPS1969
@MPS1969 4 месяца назад
Nice cab! Great choice for placement. Though I would suggest one thing, do the back bevel before you start on the dome. Especially if the stone is liable to fracture or is soft. Would hate to invest the time to finish the cab, then do the bevel and something happens at that stage! Thanks for sharing your knowledge!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 4 месяца назад
That's a good point. I'll try to remember to do that in the future. In fact, I have some that I just started that I think I'll bevel before I start on the front.
@donnacanada522
@donnacanada522 2 месяца назад
Great choice on the piece you chose to cut out. I agree with you, I like a little color also. Very nice.😊
@kylaabegglen1275
@kylaabegglen1275 Год назад
It really turned out beautifully! I'll never tire of watching you make cabs, or any of your videos really. Great tutorial on cabs. Thanks for sharing Rob!✌️🤠🤘
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks, Kyla.
@RSJ-Texas
@RSJ-Texas Год назад
Very nice work. I used to do lapidary work many many years ago. Took classes when I was a boy at the Grand Rapids Museum on Saturday mornings.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Do you ever think about getting back into it?
@largent45
@largent45 Год назад
Wow! Great tutorial. You are a great teacher. Your instructions were clear and pretty straight forward. And it continued all the way to the very end. Thanks Rob!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks for the nice compliments. I did a little planning for this one, so that helps.
@michelleagnew2864
@michelleagnew2864 Год назад
I’m inspired! Excellent breakdown on technique. One day I hope to own some of the same equipment that you have.
@kirsiselei8703
@kirsiselei8703 Год назад
Omg,that is absolutely beautiful💕
@davidl.turner1005
@davidl.turner1005 Год назад
Thanks for the tutorial. Beautiful stone. Great job! I’ve been picking for years and finally I’m getting a shop set up to do this sort of work.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Good for you, David. You're going to love it.
@justjulee9135
@justjulee9135 Год назад
I loved this video! Making a cab out of crazy lace was genius! Very beautiful ❤️
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Crazy lace is one of my favorites, so it was an easy choice.
@davidhile5363
@davidhile5363 Год назад
I totally agree with your choice of positioning your cab from the raw slab. Loved the phrase “When in doubt, grind it out”! You make it look soooo easy !
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I was really torn, because I liked that first spot too. I really was going to go the other way until I started recording.
@diedredunham7383
@diedredunham7383 Год назад
Please let me know your phone number?
@davidhile5363
@davidhile5363 Год назад
@@diedredunham7383 Who are you ?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@diedredunham7383 You don't need my phone number. What's your question? I'll answer you here.
@wyomingadventures
@wyomingadventures Год назад
Beautiful cab Rob! You're a great teacher.
@Nikkisavage100
@Nikkisavage100 Год назад
Hi Rob , as always very nice job, its beautiful !
@benjaminrapp7418
@benjaminrapp7418 4 месяца назад
Excellent video, as always! I just got my first flat. Going to give it a go tomorrow with some Ohio vanport flint we collected. Mobile users: Quit rocking your phone like you're the one cabbing. 🤪
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 4 месяца назад
Good luck with your first cabs!
@dougodette4582
@dougodette4582 Год назад
Great tutorial Rob! Thank you fir for sharing this video!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome.
@stephaniephelps3539
@stephaniephelps3539 Год назад
What a great helpful video - THANK YOU!
@vlakslee
@vlakslee Год назад
Awesome video, Rob. Very well taught.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thank you.
@jeffholmes1362
@jeffholmes1362 Год назад
Great video Rob, thanks for sharing. Lovely agate too
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome, Jeff.
@mikek4443
@mikek4443 Год назад
Fantastic, I really loved the pattern in this one it turned out amazing
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Crazy lace is usually pretty awesome.
@pugsmom1
@pugsmom1 Год назад
Beautiful, just beautiful. Well taught.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks!
@darkwood777
@darkwood777 Год назад
Such a good video! It will be a valuable resource for those starting out and wondering if they should invest in the polishing equipment. I wish you had finished the back, but that's just me. LOL
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I mostly finished the backs of the Sow Belly agate I did recently and it was really time consuming. I think it took longer than the front and I finally gave up and went back a wheel to hide some scratches that had shown up.
@greatnorthernviews3052
@greatnorthernviews3052 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing that. That’s beautiful rock!
@dawnwilkinson8717
@dawnwilkinson8717 Год назад
Really pretty pendant. Thank you for sharing the process.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome, Dawn.
@dancrites453
@dancrites453 Год назад
That was great! Planning on cabbing some Petoskeys and this is a huge help. Thanks...
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
That's what I'm here for, Dan.
@roman11469
@roman11469 Год назад
Beautiful!
@soul_adventurist
@soul_adventurist Год назад
Beautiful piece❤
@lisamills-wv6nc
@lisamills-wv6nc Год назад
Stunning! Thank you for showing this! I learned a lot! 😊
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome.
@Sophia-uc9qh
@Sophia-uc9qh Год назад
Love this so much!!
@betojdesigns
@betojdesigns Год назад
That was a very well done instructional video for teaching first time cabachon making. You’re years of teaching are shining through. The only thing I would add, is the importance of heating the stone before dopping. We do this because we don’t want the hot wax to fracture the stone. If the stone is also heated, this can be avoided. The cab turned out beautiful
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I did talk about heating it up first, but for a different reason. If the stone is cold, the wax just hardens and doesn't stick. I have not heard that the hot wax could crack the stone. I do much worse to the stone by putting it in the freezer and then running it under hot water. Maybe I shouldn't do that.
@betojdesigns
@betojdesigns Год назад
@@MichiganRocks I did see that you talked about that, and that's great. I was just passing on what I've been taught by my local gem and mineral society. I'm sure that some types of rocks can fracture with sudden changes in temperature.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@betojdesigns I appreciate the information. I hadn't considered it.
@gailgwood
@gailgwood Год назад
Thank you. I never knew how to get rid of the flat spot on top!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Just keep working it. It just takes time and I still struggle sometimes.
@IvanLopez-zh3xz
@IvanLopez-zh3xz Год назад
Awsome episode!!!!!
@Centannicocktails
@Centannicocktails Год назад
Thank you for explaining everything so clear!!!!❤
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome.
@blindsquirrelrocks
@blindsquirrelrocks Год назад
Kinda off topic, but I'd keep that drone grounded for a while, especially over Lake Huron!😉
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Good plan! I'm planning to go out tomorrow and thought about taking the drone along. I decided I didn't want to bother with it, but never thought about getting it shot down. I wonder if there are flight restrictions on them right now? Probably not, but it would be worth checking!
Год назад
Seu trabalho é muito bom meu amigo gosto demais.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Gracias.
@dandobson8882
@dandobson8882 3 месяца назад
great tutorial! just what I needed to see. just got my knc6 a week ago. cheers!🎉
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 3 месяца назад
That's awesome, you're going to have a lot of fun with that!
@johnbaenen5386
@johnbaenen5386 Год назад
You came a long way my friend. I will classify you as an expert.. I think you're filming and your work is outstanding.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
In a recent video, I asked people for suggestions for future videos. Someone suggested that I go to the channel Black Opal Direct to see how he films his cab machine. I did and saw that he has a really nice jig to hold his phone. I made my own version with a couple boards hanging down from the ceiling that hold a piece of 3/4" PVC pipe right over my cab machine. I already had a clamp on camera mount that fit on the PVC perfectly. Now I can easily move the camera from one wheel to the next and I don't have to reach around a tripod while I work. The whole thing folds up into the ceiling when I'm not using it. This video was the first time I've used it and I really liked it.
@johnbaenen5386
@johnbaenen5386 Год назад
This Spring I plan on seeing you in the U. P. Sooner or later I will run into you on a beach.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@johnbaenen5386 It's a good possibility!
@carmenevans7651
@carmenevans7651 Год назад
Received my rocks. The time and costs involved would make an interesting video. Thank you.
@LTGuitar51
@LTGuitar51 10 месяцев назад
Excellent and such a BEAUTIFEL pendant. I order Crazy Lace from Northern and they are amazing strones! Thx
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 10 месяцев назад
What's Northern? Do you mean Kingsley North?
@utahrockhoundingcouple
@utahrockhoundingcouple Год назад
I'm new to cab making and this was a great review for me from a class I took recently! I do like the groove wrap style, I think I'll have to try that. Thanks and I'm glad I found your channel!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I have never taken a class. How did my method compare to what you learned?
@utahrockhoundingcouple
@utahrockhoundingcouple Год назад
@@MichiganRocks I'd say your method is similar but my rock shop guy has a whole process for getting the top perfect! One step that helps is using a marker to cover the surface and then you'll notice if you've missed any areas. I'll see if I can find the video for it!
@utahrockhoundingcouple
@utahrockhoundingcouple Год назад
I added the written instructions in my Instagram post above since I can't share pictures in the comments.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@utahrockhoundingcouple I have heard of the marker method. You have to be careful with that though. If you use it on some rocks it can soak in and require a lot of grinding to remove.
@utahrockhoundingcouple
@utahrockhoundingcouple Год назад
Good to know on the issues with using a marker! Thanks!
@darlabuchmeier135
@darlabuchmeier135 Год назад
Super beautiful. Thanks.
@nancyjahn4224
@nancyjahn4224 3 месяца назад
Very nice cool work great job 😊
@josephpotterf9459
@josephpotterf9459 Год назад
Thanks polish back side charge double then it's worth it. Both sides are cool good work .
@DRMLbyJeffrey
@DRMLbyJeffrey Год назад
Beautiful cab love the change in ideas of the placement on the slab. 1 thing I make sure is there is wax between the stone and dop stick. If the stick is touching the stone it pops the stone off the stick due to vibration. And not sure if you mention this but stick finished stones on the sticks in the freezer it pops the wax off the stone due to thermal expantion rates when you pull them out of the freezer.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I usually just push the stick down hard on the back of the cab, not worrying about there being wax between. I've never heard that was important. I'll try it. Thanks for the tip! I guess you didn't watch to the end (no problem), but I showed myself putting the cab in the freezer. The first time I showed that, I taught a few people something. Some people were soaking them in acetone to remove the wax. The freezer is way easier.
@caroltemperley2261
@caroltemperley2261 Год назад
Absolutely gorgeous 💖💖💖
@markreetz1001
@markreetz1001 Год назад
Cool video, Rob. You sure can do some artistic stuff. Impressive
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I'm not sure if it's artistic. Seems like all the art is in the rock. I just cut it out.
@alfredogarciasuarez9448
@alfredogarciasuarez9448 5 месяцев назад
Michigan rocks awesome work!!!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 5 месяцев назад
Thank, Alfred!
@sparband
@sparband Год назад
Beautiful.
@SherryAustinMcginley
@SherryAustinMcginley Год назад
It is beautiful.
@TheRockaBillyD
@TheRockaBillyD Год назад
Great vid as always
@nicesmokes
@nicesmokes Год назад
Great job on the video and the instructions!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Thanks.
@pdub2762
@pdub2762 Год назад
Pretty slick!
@morbiusprime2043
@morbiusprime2043 Год назад
Love your videos!
@149devin
@149devin 5 месяцев назад
its a beaut clark. 😍 Awesome job and great teaching thank you
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome, Devin!
@ruthchapman3847
@ruthchapman3847 Год назад
Beautiful
@junglerider007
@junglerider007 2 месяца назад
beautiful skilled work on the agate👍
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@laurrimitchell3067
@laurrimitchell3067 Год назад
That was very informative. Thank you so much for all of your videos. I have learned so much watching you. I am curious, where did you get the plans for your tumbler cabinet? I have been looking for almost a year to find plans to build a cabinet like that?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
My friend designed it. He asked me not to share the plans. I have made a couple videos showing it and have answered some basic questions in the comments. Homemade Tumbler: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6qIcK2ZohGM.html Tumbler Update: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PAMOCc2BNJM.html
@glennsowacke9752
@glennsowacke9752 8 месяцев назад
I checked out your wrap tutorial. I would like to see a video of it. I learn better that way.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 8 месяцев назад
That's not my tutorial, just the one I use. I'm not really that good at making them. It's sort of awkward for me, so I don't think a video from me would be very helpful.
@bradbailey5807
@bradbailey5807 10 месяцев назад
Your agate slabs are gorgeous!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 10 месяцев назад
Yes, those were some good ones.
@patriciamckean4186
@patriciamckean4186 Год назад
Nice, I don't cut in at the side for wire wrapping. I wrap without. Great job. I do alot more rocking.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I think that's the way most people do it. I have only learned how to do a groove wrap. I should really learn how to do the normal kind of wrapping too.
@maryfrancescairns7160
@maryfrancescairns7160 2 месяца назад
Great show
@GhostObsessed
@GhostObsessed Год назад
Thanks for the tutorial, Was a fun watch! I've been trying to afford a cabbing machine for the last 5 years or so, Every time I get some money saved up something happens. It'll happen some day 🤞
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Keep trying!
@robbybobby6466
@robbybobby6466 Год назад
I’ve been polishing stone for over 35 years. This is totally different. Polishing little pieces of stone like that. Very tedious, the dopp stick is a finger saver huh? Get a Kingsley North manicure. Very nice work Rob.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
How have you been polishing them? In a tumbler? These wheels won't cut you unless they're really new. After the initial bumps get worn down, you can rub your finger on them. In fact, I did that in one part of the video just to make sure the wheel was wet all over before I started. The dop stick just makes it easier to hold onto the cab.
@robbybobby6466
@robbybobby6466 Год назад
@@MichiganRocks I tumble and polish stone for a living. I get rocks off the beach and tumble them up. We have a lot of quartz including Smokey quartz, petrified wood, agates. You know, the usual suspects. I have 2 tumblers and have almost worn out the bearing on the one. I love your show and the stones.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@robbybobby6466 You can make a living doing that? The way I do it, I would starve to death before I got my first batch done.
@robbybobby6466
@robbybobby6466 Год назад
@@MichiganRocks I do Marble & Granite installations. I do all the fabrication and polishing of the stone. My own business over 35 years. Tri state area is where I live , there is no lack of work. I tumble beach rock for pure pleasure.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@robbybobby6466 Oh, ok. I thought you were saying that you make a living from tumbling rocks. That would be very surprising. Now I understand.
@PembelajarMerdeka
@PembelajarMerdeka Год назад
Wow beautiful result. Thank you for tutorial We have raw beautiful stone
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
You're welcome.
@weathertrainsrandomniss1083
Thank you for the detailed video! That glass grinder you use is the same one we use for staindglass lamps. It's been a few years since I have made any glass projects, but that sound is unforgettable. As a machinest, I was wondering if they make a 45deg wheel for the glass grinder? I am not as good as you with free handling a bevel. Cheers from Wisconsin.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I have a little ramp that came with it that lets you angle the glass so that edge ends up at 45°.
@cindypetersen-harper8472
@cindypetersen-harper8472 Год назад
Another great tutorial, Rob! Love it, and love the stone you used…crazy lace agate?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Yep, that's Mexican Crazy Lace. Awesome stuff.
@marioribeirodeazevedoneto311
Congratulation, parabéns! Brasil
@simplybae9740
@simplybae9740 8 месяцев назад
Would you have any tips for how to make really small cabs? Thanks for this video! It was very helpful!
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 8 месяцев назад
No, I have not made any really small cabs. I might skip the first wheel just because taking off too much would be more noticeable and easier to do on a small cab.
@aliencat11
@aliencat11 Год назад
Nice!
@icatz
@icatz Год назад
You're such a champ at this. Have you tried cabbing the fire agate?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Nope, I have a couple small fire agates, but I think they have to be ground very carefully to show the fire. I haven't really looked into it too much. I should though.
@gaynellbowie8379
@gaynellbowie8379 Год назад
I new to this, and I'm fascinated by your demonstrations (I want to learn how to do it from start to finish)!?! What all will I need to get going (What tools will I need)?!? Are there Books, DVDS or other things I will need?!? Where will I find the best tools (What manufacturer,or store, and can I find some of them on Amazon)?!?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
That's a really big question. You'd need quite a bit of stuff and it's not cheap. If you bought rocks already slabbed, you wouldn't need a slab saw. You'd still need a trim saw, and a cab machine at a minimum. My cab machine is a Kingsley North Cabber 6. Here's my review of the machine and a couple links to where you can buy one. Take a look at these and then ask some more questions if you're really serious. Cabber 6 Review: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-n30aBTu9OkY.html Cabber 6 with upgraded wheels (the one in this video): kingsleynorth.com/kingsley-north-cabber-6-nova.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link) Standard Cabber 6: kingsleynorth.com/kingsley-north-cabber-6.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link)
@semperfidelis2970
@semperfidelis2970 Год назад
A piece of Earth's history! Phenomenally beautiful. Where do you sell your jewelry?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I sell a few things at a local shop. They don't have an online store, but will work with you if you call or email. olivetbookandgift.com
@carlzatsick8405
@carlzatsick8405 Год назад
Hello Rob, very nice work on the crazy lace and good call on the reddish orange part of the stone Are your wheels Nova wheels on the cab machine ? Thank you Carl Zatsick Farmington Michigan
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Yes, the last four are Nova wheels. The first two are Galaxy. All Diamond Pacific. These are supposed to be the best.
@ronaldhoppus9015
@ronaldhoppus9015 Год назад
Good tut. Do you ever wish you had the 8" cab machine? And how thick was the slab? Thanks
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I have not wished for the 8" machine. I make those little heart pendants like I showed at the very end of the video. They have a concave curve that I wouldn't be able to do with an 8" machine. The wheels for the 8" machine are also about twice as much. I wouldn't have to change them as often, but it would sure be expensive when I did. The slab was about 1/4 inch. That's a good size if you're putting a groove around the cab.
@Indyanas_ocean_view
@Indyanas_ocean_view Год назад
Super beautiful! Seeing the progress was really cool. What kind of stone is it? 😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
That's Mexican Crazy Lace Agate.
@Indyanas_ocean_view
@Indyanas_ocean_view Год назад
@@MichiganRocks It looks very beautiful!😍🥰😇👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@kellyhollingsworth6100
@kellyhollingsworth6100 Год назад
Nice piece Rob, how thick of material do you prefer to use for your cabs. Have a great weekend happy hounding.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
About a quarter inch. Any less doesn't give me much room for the groove. If you weren't making a groove, you could go a little thinner.
@theingothouse5731
@theingothouse5731 Год назад
nice specimen
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I thought so too. Too many choices on one slab!
@Rocking-SLC
@Rocking-SLC Год назад
Gee Rob, I hope that flying object shot down over Lake Huron wasn't your drone! I enjoyed your cab demonstration. Have you ever shaped your cab, cut the groove for the wire, then let the tumbler do the rest?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Nope, my drone is safe and sound. I think I'll keep it in the house for awhile though. I have not done that, but a friend does it. It works with very hard rocks, like this one. Most agates and jaspers should work well that way. I think my friend does the girdle again after the cab comes out of the tumbler to make the line nice and crisp again.
@OntarioRob
@OntarioRob Год назад
What make & model is your glass cutting machine ? I'm definitely going to get one. Beautiful pendant, Rob. I know you asked for suggestions, but you're doing great & wouldn't change a thing
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I can't find that exact same one. I got it used. I found one that is the same brand and listed it in my Amazon storefront. You can find that in the description of any of my videos. I think any brand would probably work.
@5in1killa
@5in1killa Год назад
You ever watch Pulitzer Opal? He does a lot of cabs in his videos, nice tutorial.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
No, I have watched a couple of videos on the Black Opal Direct channel though.
@5in1killa
@5in1killa Год назад
You should check him out, Pulitzer Opal is really funny.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Ok, I just watched a video called, "Opal … Expect the UNEXPECTED !!" It was a very strange video, but I have to say, it kept me entertained. Oh, pretty opal. Why are there bugs on the screen? Oh, there's that nice opal again. Hey! Turtle chase! Now I'm watching an arrow head being snapped. Opal. Cat. Dog. Opal again...
@catseyecrafts9181
@catseyecrafts9181 Год назад
Are there smaller machines that can do the same job for those of us who do not have the money and/or space for one like yours?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
The machine I have comes in a cheaper version with Kingsley North wheels. I have the Nova wheels, which are generally considered the best. That machine is cheaper, but is the exact same size. You might consider a flat lap. Flat laps can make a cab just like this, but there are several disadvantages, in my opinion. First the advantages: Flat laps are generally cheaper, smaller, and the replacement laps are cheaper too. Disadvantages: Flat laps only have one lap on at a time, so you have to change them several times while making a cab. It's also hard to see your work. You're looking at the back of the cab instead of between the cab and the wheel like I was in this video. You're basically working blind and checking your work every now and then. I just posted a question on the Rock Tumbling Hobby forums asking how people did this and one woman told me that she leans her head over and peeks underneath when she's working on the edges. One guy has a slant lap and works from the back of the machine to see underneath it. Another person posted a nice video of him working on a cab on his machine. In my experience, the flat lap grinds a little slower too, but a friend of mine told me that he feels like they both work at about the same speed. Here's the discussion I started at RTH: forum.rocktumblinghobby.com/thread/101573/girdle-line-when-using-flat?page=1&scrollTo=1263995 Here's a link to a flat lap: kingsleynorth.com/all-u-need-6-inch-complete.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link) Here's a slant lap: kingsleynorth.com/slant-cabber-6-inch-complete.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link)
@laszlosoltesz3772
@laszlosoltesz3772 Год назад
Beautiful cab! How thick was slab when you started?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
About a quarter inch.
@Kerrsartisticgifts
@Kerrsartisticgifts Год назад
Have you ever tried treating any stones the way they do with Andamooka Matrix? They work on that matrix opal just as you're working on this stone and you'd never guess there was any colour in a lot of it untill after they treat it. Beautiful job you did on this stone.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Do you mean heat treating rocks? I haven’t tried that or any other treatments that I can think of.
@Kerrsartisticgifts
@Kerrsartisticgifts Год назад
@@MichiganRocks They put the rocks in a pot with a sugar and water bath. It has a glass lid with a vacuum pump. It looks like a slow cooker and it heats the mix for about three days. After that it looks very dark but they soak it in citric acid and when it comes out of the "treatment" they soak the stones in water with baking soda. Once that's done, the once whitish matrix is dark which then really accentuates all the colours you couldn't really see well otherwise.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@Kerrsartisticgifts I’ve never heard of that process. Is it just used in opals? I have never worked with opals either.
@Kerrsartisticgifts
@Kerrsartisticgifts Год назад
@@MichiganRocks , I began watching your videos on tumbling and collecting rocks on Lake Huron. That led me to opal videos and gold mining videos. So far I have only seen matrix opals being treated in the way I described. Those Andamooka matrix stones start out looking like bits of concrete but once they treat them the colours really stand out, it's amazing to see. I watch "the opal mills" and "pulitzer opal" doing it. You would probably really enjoy seeing them do what you do, except with various opal stones. Boulder opal, seam opal, matrix opal, nobbys, but I'm wondering if you could treat some other stones, like they do with the opals.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
@@Kerrsartisticgifts I watched the one you linked to showing how they treat them. That was pretty cool.
@SuperCharlie2002
@SuperCharlie2002 10 месяцев назад
Ok, i love the glass grinder. Where do I get the bit that you have for the groove cut? I can't seem to find. Any help appreciated greatly. Thanks
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 10 месяцев назад
I have it listed in my Amazon storefront which you can find in the descriptions of all my videos. The brand is "Twofer".
@SuperCharlie2002
@SuperCharlie2002 10 месяцев назад
@@MichiganRocks awesome thank you 😊
@bonnieborgeson3200
@bonnieborgeson3200 Год назад
Where to get a 'groove bit? If I purchased a used glass grinder would that groove bit be all I would need? Thank you.
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I think that should do it for making the groove. In the description of this video, you'll find my Amazon storefront. I have the groove bit I use listed there. There's also a glass grinder that's as close to the one I have as I could find. My grinder was used when I got it and I'm not sure they make that one anymore. I think any glass grinder would work, so look around for a used one if you want.
@siamaklighvani3951
@siamaklighvani3951 11 месяцев назад
Nice and precise work , I would like to know what kind of glue are you using ? And where to buy the stencil ?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 11 месяцев назад
I use dop wax to stick the cab to the dop stick. kingsleynorth.com/green-dop-wax.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link) Here's a link to the stencil I used: kingsleynorth.com/gem-temp-template.html?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link)
@siamaklighvani3951
@siamaklighvani3951 11 месяцев назад
@@MichiganRocks thanks
@siamaklighvani3951
@siamaklighvani3951 11 месяцев назад
@@MichiganRocks thank you again.
@ams3117
@ams3117 Год назад
❤ and nice
@northernrocks543
@northernrocks543 Год назад
I have been trying to find one of those glass cutting machine. Do you know where I can find one?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I have one similar to mine linked in my Amazon storefront. You can find that in the description of any of my videos. There are quite a few different ones available. You might want to look for a used one too. Mine is used.
@doisalquimistas7119
@doisalquimistas7119 11 месяцев назад
Lindo trabalho ! Qual o nome dessa pedra?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 11 месяцев назад
Ágata rendada mexicana maluca.
@tinawilliams1060
@tinawilliams1060 Год назад
I had an MK 303 0.40" on my 6" rock saw, but unfortunately I wore it out today. What blade and blade width are you using? Yours seemed to cut extremely well! Thanks, Tina
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I'm using the exact same blade, except mine is a ten inch blade. Mine might seem to cut really well when I speed up the video. I'm very happy with its performance though. kingsleynorth.com/mk-303c-professional-diamond-blades+kn_dimd_blade_type-MK-303C-Professional-Diamond-Blade+kn_dimd_blade_desc-10dia-X-040-rim-x-58-x-12-arbor?ref=robertabram1& (affiliate link)
@tinawilliams1060
@tinawilliams1060 Год назад
@@MichiganRocks Thanks so much Rob! I just ordered a new one!
@jonathanyoung7785
@jonathanyoung7785 Год назад
Re 3:36: You did cut it yourself! (Cutting Better Crazy Lace Agate @ 5:53)
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
Only you would know that. I really wasn’t sure. That’s hilarious that you went and found the time stamp.
@nancyconklin5517
@nancyconklin5517 Месяц назад
The grooved bit on the glass grinder can be purchased where?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Месяц назад
In the description of this video, you'll find my Amazon storefront. I have it listed there.
@kgrotelueschen1433
@kgrotelueschen1433 Год назад
Why do we use dopping sticks so long? I cut the ones that came with the pot about an inch shorter and made more but sometimes they still get jammed against the handrest Have you tried shorter? How much shorter? Thoughts? Problems created if too short?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks Год назад
I made all my own, none came with my pot. I have one or two that must have been from the end of the dowel because they are shorter. I don't remember there being a problem with them, but I don't usually have a problem with the longer ones either. I have jammed a couple against the hand rest, but that's pretty rare. I'm not sure there were any answers to your questions there, but that's all I've got for you.
@michaelvasileiadis5064
@michaelvasileiadis5064 4 месяца назад
I just want to make agate crosses. Should I buy a saw and a vibratory tumbler or a saw and a cabbing machine ???
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 4 месяца назад
Definitely a saw and a vibratory tumbler. That would take forever to do on a cab machine and it would still be tricky to get into the corners. Here's how I do it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dJ7qriOF0r4.html
@rickincabo1
@rickincabo1 2 месяца назад
Do you wear breathing protection when grinding cabs?
@MichiganRocks
@MichiganRocks 2 месяца назад
Yes, I wear a respirator.
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