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I'm remaking the vacuum former from my very first project video, but way better this time! Come check out the process.
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As many of you know, I don't really repeat projects. Not that each project or video is perfect, far from it actually, I just rarely have the time or desire to completely reinvent something I've already done. If you check out the link for my first project video, you'l see why this project (being far from perfect) is in need of a revamping.
In my previous attempt at making a vacuum former, I placed the material in a frame and placed it in my oven to soften the plastic. This technically did work, but presented a lot of problems; melting plastic where my food goes, taking over the kitchen with a prop-making project, the plastic starts to cool when moving it around, etc. So I found a small space heater that is meant to hang from a shop ceiling to use as the source of heat to soften the plastic.
A vacuum former works by heating up and thereby softening/slightly melting a thin sheet of plastic. That malleable sheet is then pulled down over an object that sits on a flat bed of holes. Once the plastic is pulled down over the object and sealed around the bed, a vacuum pulls the air from under the sheet through the holes and the plastic sucks down into the object's nooks and crannies creating the vacuum formed shape.
To keep the heat source above the vacuum bed, I built a box out of 1/2 inch thick MDF and mounted the heater in it. The vacuum box was built in the exact same way and I used the CNC to drill a bunch of holes for the air to escape. I had to drill a large hole in the vacuum box's side panel so I can attach the shopvac hose directly to the lower box.
Some aluminum angled stock will act as the vertical supports. We guesstimated the amount of sag that the plastic would have when heated and added some space for a tall-ish object laying on the vacuum bed and that was my height dimension. I screwed the aluminum supports directly into the two MDF boxes and the vacuum former took shape.
To hold the plastic sheets up near the heat source and to bring it down on top of the object, you need a material support frame. This is a two-part frame that will act as a clamp on all sides of the material as well as a pulling mechanism that should seal to the vacuum bed. I decided to use some 3/16 inch thick steel flat bar because it would be rigid over the 24 inch span without much support. After welding up the two frames independently, I added two simple handles to one of them. You have to make sure to grind the welds flat, especially where a tight seal would be needed like the bottom and where the material would be held.
Furthermore, I added some simple MDF handles to the sides incase the frame got too hot for my hands. The two frames would be held together with some flat-bottom binder clips and held up near the heater using some magnets suspended on long screws. This will keep the frame in place whilst heating and still allow me to pull the material down with minimal force.
On our first test pull we learned a lot. First, plexiglass is super brittle when vacuum formed and didn't work that great. Second, the space heater's radiant heating area was smaller than I thought, but it still worked well enough. Third, the binder clips prevented a perfect seal with the vacuum bed, so I needed to add some extra gaskets. Thin EVA foam cut into strips would acts as a seal when the material frame sat on the vacuum bed. I lined the outer perimeter with the EVA foam, and then added small pieces in the areas that wouldn't touch the binder clips. This made little notches in the gasket so that I could line up the clips in the same place each time.
Our second test went much better and it was time to switch to some more appropriate, polystyrene sheets. The white polystyrene sheets heated up and drooped like I've seen in professional-grade vacuum formers. I turned on the shopvac right before pulling down the material frames and wham! Good pull. The white plastic sucked down to the vacuum bed and the camera I was forming was wrapped perfectly. It was a success! MUSIC: share.epidemics...
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@Roadsterrick69
@Roadsterrick69 7 месяцев назад
No uptalk…to the point…no uhs or ands…steady camera…good lighting…well done.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 6 лет назад
For anyone wanting to make their own vacuum forming machine, here's a pro-tip that will get you great results even as a beginner. You need your vacuum box to be able to fit INSIDE your frame clamp. That way when you pull down your styrene, the plastic wraps tighter around the base of your object bucks. (That means you can't directly fasten the legs to the vacuum box underneath. Unless you make a tiered cake box, where the vacuum forming area is elevated and smaller than the whole box underneath) I've made several of these over the years, and the most convenient items to start with are actually metal baking trays. Use one to contain your heating elements, and use the other as the base in which you pull vacuum through. Yeah, drilling holes in the metal pan is gonna suck a little more... but the results are more worth it and your homemade vacuum former starts to rival "professional" versions.
@mitchtaylor7725
@mitchtaylor7725 5 лет назад
Epic tip. Cheers!
@Pani29k
@Pani29k 5 лет назад
Thanks for posting. Would you have pictures of the setup ?
@thomaswiley666
@thomaswiley666 5 лет назад
I still worry about the urea-formaldehyde offgassing of generic MDF. I know MDF is a cheap to use but heat will only hasten the breakdown. Any alternatives besides metal?
@qbaker20
@qbaker20 6 лет назад
Hey, Bob. Glad you are going to be able to vacuum pack your wrenches so they don't go rancid as quickly. I hate having to throw away wrenches that have gone off while most of the metal was still good.
@naivlyssillig6728
@naivlyssillig6728 6 лет назад
Five years ago i started to follow you with your first vaccum former. Congratulations for your projects and your succes.
@JaredMize9
@JaredMize9 6 лет назад
Craziest timing. I watched 10 different vacuum former videos with Hayden last night and then this came up this morning! And thank you for the time you spent with her at Maker Faire. She’s still raving about it to her friends. Btw, a scroll saw was the first tool I ever bought her about a year ago. We obviously think alike when it comes to “safe” tools for our kids.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Awesome! Great to have met you guys. Also, make sure you listen to the new podcast that comes out tomorrow 😉
@JaredMize9
@JaredMize9 6 лет назад
Can’t wait!
@drvfstrlt1
@drvfstrlt1 6 лет назад
We built a massive version of this about 10 years ago for the SAE Baja team I was on. After a form was made, it made body panels for the car in about 10 minutes a set. Huge time saver.
@raymondfaus6853
@raymondfaus6853 3 года назад
A suggestion- use melamine. As you know, production CNC routers often have vacuum tables and pneumatic dogs. The waste sheet is MDF, with the vacuum pulling through the MDF to secure the cut sheet. That’s because MDF will allow air to pass through, pulling the cut sheet down. It’s permeable. If you use melamine and melamine glue…it’s still inexpensive, but will improve any vacuum carcass you’d build for a vacuum form machine. As a matter of fact, melamine is cheaper than MDF. Trust me…this is years of commercial fixture production experience speaking to you.
@ThomasTheFapEngine
@ThomasTheFapEngine 2 года назад
Thanks for the tip Ray :D
@MetrologyEngineer
@MetrologyEngineer 2 года назад
Do you ever watch a video and have the strange feeling that you've watched it before?
@calebnehrbass4838
@calebnehrbass4838 3 месяца назад
Deja RU-vid
@EvanAndKatelyn
@EvanAndKatelyn 6 лет назад
The answer is always MORE MAGNETS! Been wanting to build one of these, thanks Bob!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Magnets everywhere!!!
@delphinelam1674
@delphinelam1674 6 лет назад
nooooo the answer is always more clamps haha
@blues0006
@blues0006 6 лет назад
Delphine Lam Nah that's in woodworking
@GeneJordan
@GeneJordan 6 лет назад
EvanAndKatelyn I think Bob must have watched your knife making videos with Alec Steele and liked the "sparks flying" montages! I couldn't help but notice how much grinding he did in this video with sparks flying. I was so waiting for the super slow-motion montage that never appeared!
@MoPoppins
@MoPoppins 6 лет назад
Like COWBELL and CLAMPS...never enough.
@pixl3l
@pixl3l 6 лет назад
This was by far the simplest version of making a vacuum former I have seen, and I love the simple design of the boxes and how they are connected. I am sitting and planning my own former so this video was great ^^
@artiet5982
@artiet5982 6 лет назад
I may not make a former like this, but I picked up a lot of other great tips for my everyday woodworking in this video, one reason I like your videos so much. Thanks Bob! Great video
@phunkissartisticcreations2316
@phunkissartisticcreations2316 6 лет назад
Great step by step build. Woodwork, metalwork, welding, CNC, electric wiring and even rare earth magnets, this build has it all! Thanks!
@KellenBluestein
@KellenBluestein 6 лет назад
Your vacuum former was actually what got me to sub to your channel, and you've really improved over the years! I have a 3d printer now, but if i ever try my hand a vacuum forming, this is definitely what I'll make.
@saltspress7984
@saltspress7984 6 лет назад
I was just gonna say the same!
@KevinWebb2015
@KevinWebb2015 6 лет назад
Same here. That original video was one of the ones that got me excited about the channel. Making a good vacuum former has always been one of my goals. Thanks for this new video.
@breakfixmake3405
@breakfixmake3405 6 лет назад
Good stuff, loving the "I like to make stuff" orange marker. BTW the first build video is actually reassuring for those of us who are just starting. Thanks for hanging in there and motivating others!
@admirburzic3303
@admirburzic3303 6 лет назад
Sugestion: Move the plastic a few inches further away from the heater, it will take longer to heat it up but you may get a larger heated surface. :)
@miconelsondvm5383
@miconelsondvm5383 4 года назад
I am just starting on my first machine and wanted to thank you for posting this video. It's not just helpful, it's brilliant, and your explanations are crystal clear. Many thanks for sharing.
@Mike__B
@Mike__B 6 лет назад
Some changes that just running through my mind, unsure if they're actually useful. First ditch the clips, they will prevent getting a really good seal when you press it down, instead have both top and bottom metal frames have those handles then make your wood covers such that you can slide those right on and hold both top and bottom together, then your gasket at the bottom will be much more effective since there won't be any gaps. Another option if you don't want to do that is put tabs around your frame that extend past the gasket then use those to put the clips on to. Second is your heating element. Instead of having the heating element so close to the plastic, burn issues, make a larger box run the output on the shopvac up to the heating box and create forced air situation so you can more evenly heat everything, and you might be able to use other plastic too. Or if you don't have a virgin shopvac (no dust) throw some computer fans up there to blow the air around. Lastly is there any issue with the fumes that would be putting off when you're melting plastic?
@timstafford4934
@timstafford4934 4 года назад
Its better to make a raised section in the middle smaller than the main beed so the frame wraps around it..
@nativ3_h3tke73
@nativ3_h3tke73 Год назад
I’m starting a business, and one element is I need to make my own protective cases. I remember watching the first video on this thing 5 years ago, glad I found it again
@eformance
@eformance 6 лет назад
I want to caution you that those handheld masks should be held to your face, there is a significant amount of UV radiation generated by the welder, which bounces off of nearby surfaces and will make it back to your eyes. You should be shielding your face, not the arc, for best protection.
@originaltrilogy1
@originaltrilogy1 6 лет назад
Absolutely correct! You end up with quite a lot of UV exposure otherwise.
@AdamusPrime76
@AdamusPrime76 6 лет назад
Eyeball burns are no bueno. The uv bounces off everything....everything
@davemarm
@davemarm 6 лет назад
Why did he resort to using that handheld one to begin with? The only issue was that the battery died in his auto-darkening helmet but it should still provide protection without the darkening feature.
@TheUnamazingRando
@TheUnamazingRando 6 лет назад
or he could have easily resolved that by going to the store and getting a new battery! cr2032's are not hard to find or expensive by any means... oh well. it gives welders something to cringe at! lol
@Electraglide1350
@Electraglide1350 6 лет назад
..... what ever happened to goggles ...... ?
@kadephillips576
@kadephillips576 6 лет назад
Awesome video man, I love how you give extra instructions for people with less equipment!
@Docv400
@Docv400 5 лет назад
Nice job, I’ve been wanting to make a Vacuum Former for years. One tip though, wear a Mask when cutting/sanding/planing MDF, the dust is highly carcinogenic.
@HorrorFXDesigns
@HorrorFXDesigns 5 лет назад
What is MDF? Im looking for a good molding resin to pour in to a silicon mold to make a buck for vacuum forming? Im trying to get a mold for my vacuum former to vacuum form hockey masks, but the bucks ive been using for these don't last at all. I want a really rigid hockey mask buck for vacuum forming many copies from.
@azmike1956
@azmike1956 4 года назад
John Warner absolutely. MDF is even an instant sinus infection.
@karnalindeman8738
@karnalindeman8738 6 лет назад
This Joe, Karna husband. I like your tool rack. It was behind you in this build video. GOD Bless you and your family. Amen
@GiacoWhatever
@GiacoWhatever 6 лет назад
I made the vacuum former from the other video long before I decided to start my channel... I LOVED that video!!! Time to make a big one too! :)
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
I'd love to see how you'd make it!
@lilthotslayerakayungsweetp7109
Giaco Whatever 15 mins could save you 15% on car insurance
@HelloKitty-sd9vs
@HelloKitty-sd9vs 6 лет назад
I Like To Make Stuff, same. But I'm only allowed to watch this channel. Moms rules :(
@Bmk0017
@Bmk0017 6 лет назад
I’ve gotten to play with a few of these at Auburn University, specifically one that does full 4x8 sheets of abs. One trick they use to get cleaner pulls is to use a piece of wood or a silicone spatula to even out the creases. We also just used quarters to space the objects of the vacuum table. You could also try drilling small holes through the object to get more surface detail, a 1/16-3/32 but should be fine for thinner plastics
@GearheadDaily
@GearheadDaily 6 лет назад
I'm Eric, i like to watch people make stuff.
@HelloKitty-sd9vs
@HelloKitty-sd9vs 6 лет назад
Same
@uriellopez1305
@uriellopez1305 5 лет назад
Im uriel, and i like to read cool comments
@jimomaha7809
@jimomaha7809 5 лет назад
Hi Eric, I also like it. My preference is It looks like a lot of work but actually very simple.
@MementoNeli
@MementoNeli 5 лет назад
Hi Eric, Im Mentos and Im addicted to diy...
@goldsburyam1234
@goldsburyam1234 5 лет назад
@@MementoNeli hi mentos, I'm Andrew and I'm addicted to mentos... PS. They are the freshmaker
@CPoddy
@CPoddy 4 года назад
Absolutely perfect video dude! It’s so nice to see someone making such an intelligent step by step instruction video without wasting a single frame. Maybe you should go to go to Hollywood. They could use a guy like you! Seriously!
@mitchrob12321
@mitchrob12321 6 лет назад
Despite the fact the original video was "pretty awful", it was the one that got me to subscribe. Such a great channel and it's been great to watch you and your channel grow and evolve in complexity of build and video quality. Thank you Bob, big fan here
@juliettedelicia9950
@juliettedelicia9950 6 лет назад
anyone else have no intention of making stuff but find his videos so inspiring??
@Lejackal
@Lejackal 6 лет назад
Totally having tool envy over that CNC, nice build
@paulweintraub4870
@paulweintraub4870 5 лет назад
That was very helpful. I am a retired Master Goldsmith. I used to cast a lot. This is something I could have used back then.
@Volte6
@Volte6 6 лет назад
It probably has a unnoticeable impact, but air actually leaks through solid MDF. Sealing the actual MDF surface (even with just wood glue) might have some efficiency gains.
@TheNigaHigaFan4Ever
@TheNigaHigaFan4Ever 6 лет назад
blah Thats probably right but sealing those gaps between the mdfs would help a lot, and the sealing platform and plastic
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 6 лет назад
The paint job probably solved that.
@TheNigaHigaFan4Ever
@TheNigaHigaFan4Ever 6 лет назад
Double Dare Fan the gabs between or the mdf?
@doubledarefan
@doubledarefan 6 лет назад
Gabs? Did you mean gaps? The glue seemed to take care of that. I meant the MDF itself, which is central to blah's question.
@spacemansabs
@spacemansabs 5 лет назад
Making a vac machine with an adjustable bed so you can use different sized plastic sheets, so you don’t waste material, would be the ultimate project
@jamesfinkbeiner7262
@jamesfinkbeiner7262 6 лет назад
"Get better every time " I like it
@lucasdouble-u4010
@lucasdouble-u4010 6 лет назад
i have 2 notes : 1) what could help and what usually is done is a pre blow which stretches the material so when it lands on the object you don't have to rely on the vacuum that much . 2) is that when for example you do your camera , you should tape of the holes on your board except those within an inch so that the vacuum is strong where it needs to be. love the vid FYI
@TheHandystanley
@TheHandystanley 6 лет назад
You are doing an AMAZING job doing Instructional Technology content there Mr. Bob! It was great to see you last Saturday!!
@soarabhoushmand6571
@soarabhoushmand6571 4 года назад
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@duckmaster4994
@duckmaster4994 6 лет назад
Used to be a thermoform operator for a few years did learn one thing if you’re doing a deep mold try blowing a bubble with the plastic this will even it out before you hit the vacuum. If you need more details don’t hesitate to ask.
@jakewwwjake
@jakewwwjake 6 лет назад
Can you put Josh’s face in there? He probably wouldn’t have to hold his breath THAT long.
@TheMakerMonster
@TheMakerMonster 6 лет назад
Super clever to use a space heater like that! Seems so much easier than trying to repurpose toaster oven heater elements or something. Might have to finally make a full-size vacuum former now!
@yuvseemrith3745
@yuvseemrith3745 6 лет назад
Hi bob none of your videos are awful they are rather awsome as always ☺
@wdfwgagyfgagyga
@wdfwgagyfgagyga 6 лет назад
Even though I probably never going to build one, If I ever will I am going to use your video, you have a clear explanation, good tips, clear voice, and the video is not terribly long. great work on the videos!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Thanks so much! That's awesome to hear!
@acoffeewithsatan
@acoffeewithsatan 6 лет назад
Cool project as always! You've said in the past you often end up forgetting wearing the dust mask - always do so when cutting MDF. The sawdust of that material is very harmful...
@NormalFerrari
@NormalFerrari 3 года назад
^^^^^^
@Lux158
@Lux158 6 лет назад
to seal the box right you have to paint it with epoxy.. MDF is pretty breathable and is even used to suck down pieces onto a cic-router-table. I really enjoy all your videos!
@MakingGeeksPodcast
@MakingGeeksPodcast 6 лет назад
That's amazing in 6 million forms of communication!
@ytsjcuser
@ytsjcuser 4 года назад
Very cool build. I've been wanting to make one of these but the biggest hurdle was the "cradle" system to lower the frame holder to the vacuum surface. The fact that you skipped any type of complicated raising/lowering system by simply using a separate plastic holder and magnets was a smart move. This reignites my desire to make one of these machines. Good job (as always).
@chrisp5428
@chrisp5428 6 лет назад
Thumbs up for the BTTF shirt alone!👍 The video was top shelf as always 👍
@kisssys5414
@kisssys5414 6 лет назад
Make the seal to the plastic itself, then you don't have to worry about the frame leaking and the clips won't get in the way. Adding a fillet at the bottom of objects will stop the spider webs. Also heating the parts to be formed can help preventing them from setting too quick and then setting them with a spray bottle of water.
@bramhijman4829
@bramhijman4829 6 лет назад
Very nice bob !!!! Best wishes from the Netherlands
@ethanburns03
@ethanburns03 6 лет назад
I'm actually really excited to see what you can do with this. One of the more interesting projects of late, especially because of how accessible it is to someone without much experience like myself.
@tharun_jadhav
@tharun_jadhav 6 лет назад
i would use it to make molds for chocolate candy molds from lego
@Hubbmade
@Hubbmade 6 лет назад
Great use of many different materials and skills! Wood, metal, plastic... Bob does it all!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
:) Thanks dude!
@GCustoms
@GCustoms 6 лет назад
I expected it to be red and blue since the name of the heater is Optimus! “Autobots rolling out” 😜🤘🏼
@Youmnfr
@Youmnfr 6 лет назад
Hey bob, one piece of advice, i think that the vacuuming box should be more insulated, like with a coat of silicone or something like that and maybe stepping up your actual vacuum with something with more power. Flux is inversely proportional to the area so you need more "sucking power"
@MaltandMake
@MaltandMake 6 лет назад
I wonder if you could make the handles the clamps? If you put metal sticking out on both the top and bottom parts of the plastic 'carrier' you could sandwich the plastic between each part and then put on the handles to clamp it in place. You might need different handles if you used different thickness of plastic but I think it's an elegant solution to the clamp problem.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
You could but you also need clamping pressure on all 4 sides. As the plastic gets stretched, it needs to stay put in the frame on all sides.
@fusionviper7682
@fusionviper7682 6 лет назад
i commented the same thing then i saw yours 😂great minds think alike.
@byteofblender
@byteofblender 6 лет назад
Also hadn't seen this until after I had posted the same thing myself. What if you gave the steel frame parts a slight curvature so that they apply pressure on the two sides without handles, like this poor diagram --> top,plastic,bottom = )|(
@GrayHatter
@GrayHatter 6 лет назад
maybe a piano hinge on one side of the "carrier". Then you'd only have to clamp one side
@julesmikeknaggs5659
@julesmikeknaggs5659 6 лет назад
If you added some tags around all sides and clamp those instead, maybe lower the plastic, so the heater can cover a larger area, it might take longer to soften though..
@RimWulf
@RimWulf 6 лет назад
I like how wood workers use window punches to mark drill holes. It's thinking outside the box.
@leobuildsit
@leobuildsit 6 лет назад
Too late, Bob. I’ve already seen the older vacuum form video. And all the other videos. You’re one of the reasons I started my channel. The other is Jimmy Diresta and Steve Ramsey
@crazyminecrafter14
@crazyminecrafter14 6 лет назад
For the clamping you can also use some small bolts with holes in the vacuum box on the places that they touch the vacuum box, so you have a flush contact and better vacuum. Also for more equal warming of the plastic place it a bit further as I think it is to close and doesn't heat the edges properly, which may turn out to be a problem when trying to form bigger objects.
@Uncle_Buzz
@Uncle_Buzz 6 лет назад
"Get better every time." Rule 26. :D Cheers! Chris.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Yeah, it's a saying we have around my shop.. www.iliketomakestuff.com/product/get-better-every-time/
@wihamaki
@wihamaki 6 лет назад
If you want a good idea how to vacuum-form plastics, find a place that makes orthopedics. We use to cook our plastics sometimes on top of fabric in an oven on a large silicon sprayed aluminum sheet. Once draped over the vacuum box, the cloth would be removed since it prevents the plastic from drooping all over the place handling it from stove to vacuum. To do something like the head you did, I would make a cast of it out of plaster with a vaseline'd vacuum pipe in it. The cast would have fabric or nylons over it to promote a vacuum throughout the part. The plastic would be draped over the cast, pulled around and then stuck together, working your way up to the vacuum pipe. Once you squeeze the plastic (wearing appropriate gloves the entire time) off at the pipe, it will suck completely around the cast. You can also heat up foam and use a plastic bag to seal it to the vacuum box or pipe. Once cooled, staple it to the cast to hold it in place, rough it up with some course grit sandpaper and pull plastic over it and the two layers will stick. We often used 'white' plastic that you knew was up to temperature when it went clear in the over. If you're using plaster for casts, you can shape it with car body files and smooth it with wet screen (like from a screen door). But note if the plaster hasn't had time to dry out, you can pull water and plaster right off the cast. If one was using plaster for laminating instead, some seal it off first.
@kubalarysz7601
@kubalarysz7601 6 лет назад
I love your channel it's really crafty and I love this vacuum former
@Brick_Science
@Brick_Science 6 лет назад
This is awesome bob! Thanks again for showing us. You explained it super well!
@Yunqu3
@Yunqu3 6 лет назад
Tool organizer 👌🏻
@abbv2x
@abbv2x 6 лет назад
As an electrician I cringe when I see DIY's mod electrical devices. While watching this vid, I...cringed, but thankfully you follow it immediately with words of caution and WHY to be cautious. Thank you very much for keeping viewers informed and safe! I really liked this project. For nothing more that a "cool factor", add a limit switch to the upper portion of the form that turns the vacuum on when you release the frame from the magnets :)
@Vatsek
@Vatsek 6 лет назад
A very nice project.
@TheSmallTownCraftsman
@TheSmallTownCraftsman 6 лет назад
That was the first video that I watched from your channel and is where my love of watching your video began
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 6 лет назад
I've been wondering if a heater like that would work for a vacuum former. It's performing better than I thought for a heater that size. Great project!
@IconicProps
@IconicProps 3 года назад
The simplest is a 'electric grill heater'. It is 110, comes with a heater controller. You can use 1 or 2 depending on size. They are move than 10 amps, so youll need a 110 on a 20 amp breaker, or you will need to plug it in to another rooms if you use 2. The best way would be to build a pyramid shaped heat box. Going from heater size, to plastic size. That way you get perfect radiation of heat. If you just put it in the center of box, you will get dead spots. Also, the platen, should be smaller than the plastic, so the plastic wraps around the edges of the platen, that will give a much better seal. Your best bet, is to take a look at a store bought vac former, and you will see a lot of the design flaws in home builts.
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 3 года назад
@@IconicProps That all make a lot of sense. Thanks!
@davidrucker11387
@davidrucker11387 2 года назад
So was watching this for the purpose of eventually making parts for my DeLorean, and you're wearing a DeLorean shirt! Fantastic!!!
@SpecificLove7
@SpecificLove7 6 лет назад
Nice project, and cool design (or should I say hot design?)
@stephencheramie3169
@stephencheramie3169 6 лет назад
Handheld welding shields should be held to your face not the weld. Love your videos. One of the few channels that i can watch a longer video with
@boominghawk
@boominghawk 6 лет назад
don't magnets start to lose their magnetic properties when heated up ?
@hanelyp1
@hanelyp1 6 лет назад
Magnets lose magnetism at a much higher temperature than the plastic should ever see for thermoforming.
@EcoMouseChannel
@EcoMouseChannel 6 лет назад
The Curie Temperature for a typical Neodymium Magnet is about 340°C (644°F) Waaay hotter than even your standard oven.
@corneliusgriggs8525
@corneliusgriggs8525 5 лет назад
You're right, some of the rare earth magnets start degrading at rather low temps.
@greggv8
@greggv8 5 лет назад
A better plastic clamping frame would be to use wider flat stock and notch the corners to fit inside the uprights. Then you have frame area outside the vacuum box for the binder clips. Then to get a better seal, get a piece of 1/8" thick hardboard and drill the same hole pattern as the top of the vacuum box. Cut the outside dimensions to fit within the frame opening and slightly round the top edges. Glue that to the top of the vacuum box, making sure it's fully sealed. These modifications will allow the plastic sheet to contact and seal to the bed top, without having to do a major redesign.
@moisesmares3307
@moisesmares3307 6 лет назад
Nice proyect! I love your shirt 👍
@NolanCreate
@NolanCreate 6 лет назад
My near 5 year old incomplete box can now be completed! Your build filled in a number of gaps that kept me completing it! Great video as always!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Excellent! Great to hear!
@JoshMakesStuff
@JoshMakesStuff 6 лет назад
I bet there's a video about our trip to Maker Faire 2018 on that second channel...and bearded Bob FTW. FIRST!
@jervincabug3612
@jervincabug3612 6 лет назад
Is this comment posted an hour ago?
@brokenantlerworkshop
@brokenantlerworkshop 6 лет назад
I could be first too if I had a billion dollars in tools.
@masterofnone
@masterofnone 6 лет назад
The P.I. Workshop Josh, what settings where you running on welding shots on the camera?
@JoshMakesStuff
@JoshMakesStuff 6 лет назад
To keep the camera from blinking in and out, you have to set the exposure so that it stays constant. That's it.
@JoshMakesStuff
@JoshMakesStuff 6 лет назад
Sounds like someone needs to up their internet stalker game.
@u10ajf
@u10ajf 3 года назад
Very cool stuff. If I had one of these I'd make a parabolic dish and record bird song with it. I think it'd be the easiest shape in the world to vacuum form - so simple and regular.
@gcm4312
@gcm4312 6 лет назад
could you share the soundtrack at 3:00?
@craptap2029
@craptap2029 6 лет назад
Amazing content as per usual. I love how these tutorials are super doable with a little effort and I love how thoroughly you explain things. Thanks Bob!
@lifehackertips
@lifehackertips 6 лет назад
8:15 damn, lost me at welding. I could probably do the rest but I’m not welding stuff
@TychoCraft
@TychoCraft 6 лет назад
That old video of the vacuum former took me to this channel and i have been here ever since! And im still loving it, seeing you improve!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Awesome! Thanks for sticking around so long!!!
@jdgindustries2734
@jdgindustries2734 6 лет назад
Once again Bob, awesome work. Was this filmed at the old house? Looks like the old shop. By the way, thanks for adding yet ANOTHER project to my list of things to make for our hackerspace (The Make Space in State College PA).
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Thanks! No, this one is in the new shop. The original vacuum former video was at the old place. 👍🏼
@CodyHarlanAmerican
@CodyHarlanAmerican 6 лет назад
Remake your tray that holds the plastic by making a frame of angle iron with an insert that drops into it and sandwiches the plastic. Then you can put a gasket on the bottom and get a perfect seal, and also ditch the binder clips. It would be similar to what you have already but if the bottom half had 1/2 inch walls going up and the top half didn't have the handles and fit inside the tray area of the bottom
@zaprodk
@zaprodk 6 лет назад
FYI, Actually, your eyes are safe even if you have no battery in your welding mask. The UV-blocking properties is there all the time - it's just uncomfortable to look at.
@mitchtaylor7725
@mitchtaylor7725 5 лет назад
bright lights burn retinas too. Uv or no UV
@lukesf3953
@lukesf3953 6 лет назад
You know I’ve been watching other build channels, but your stuff is by far the best.
@seropserop
@seropserop 6 лет назад
Hey, I work as a Thermofoiling engineer and positive pressure vacuum machine specialist for thermoforming at a kitchen door manufacturing company, I can help you fix those problems you're having with the pinching and wrinkling along the sides of the objects you're pressing. There are also a lot of variables that aren't considered (like preheating time and your shop vac ramp up speed while forming) in this build I can help with to make the outcome perfect just send me a message
@originaltrilogy1
@originaltrilogy1 6 лет назад
Please share the tips here if you can, we would all benefit from them :)
@seropserop
@seropserop 6 лет назад
Laser Man if he doesn't care enough to send a message then why waste my time
@YouCanMakeThisToo
@YouCanMakeThisToo 6 лет назад
I'd bet Bob is interested, but if you listen to his podcast you know his time per project is extremely limited, this one is done and he probably doesn't have the time. But the spirit of this channel is teaching, sharing, and learning together. Whether or not Bob has the time to personally reach out to you, there are tons of people here who would love to learn from what you know. Unless you're only interested in helping Bob, then none of that matters.
@originaltrilogy1
@originaltrilogy1 6 лет назад
Well, I guess because it would benefit everyone in the maker community to share your expertise. Pretty much anyone who took the time to watch this video would be interested, and certainly anyone looking to build their own machine. These channels are all about sharing information and gaining knowledge, so it wouldn't be a waste of time at all, I reckon just telling Bob the info would possibly be more wasteful, as the information might not end up going out to the wider audience. I hope you can take the time, as I am genuinely interested.
@chikakitagawa5134
@chikakitagawa5134 6 лет назад
seropserop I kind of feel sad for you
@chattermark5799
@chattermark5799 5 лет назад
Nice work. Two remarks: Neodymium magnets loose their power when heated above 90 deg centigrade - irreversably. A snap-on lock might be better on the long run Industrial vacuum fomers use a two step push- and pull-process. Specially when copying high rising molds, they first blow up a bubble in the sheet, then move in the mould from below, and finally apply the vacuum. That enhances the wall thickness in vertical surfaces. But more than a diy project. Reversing the orientation (sheet on the bottom, mould mounted above it) could be a way to go. Hot air instead of the IR heater could also help get it heated more evenly.
@vgaggia
@vgaggia Год назад
Oh my god this is going to be so helpful for my project, i'm making a mask that has a clear visor and i've been figuring out the best way to do it
@danthemakerman
@danthemakerman 6 лет назад
You could probably start a third channel called "I like to Vacuum Form Stuff" where you just show clips of stuff being vacuum formed. Its soooo satisfying to watch.
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Ha! If I had more free time, I might just do that :)
@christopherhemmings
@christopherhemmings 6 лет назад
Just a tip from a cabinetmaker. By using MDF, you're losing vacuum suction anyway. MDF Is porous and allows air to pass through. We use it as a spoilboard on CNC machines for that reason.
@justingort1
@justingort1 2 года назад
bit late to the party but great video. i made one as well and it works really well. i did change one thing and that was replacing the neodymium magnets with ferrite ones. like the ones on a fridge but on steroids. I did that because neo's loss the magnetic field of they heat up above 60C and ferrites can handle around 200C. this was too prevent it from losing its grip on the plastic holder while you are waiting or if you are using it for a while.
@OregonDARRYL
@OregonDARRYL 9 месяцев назад
Idea... hang two sheets vertically in the oven and slide them together on an object and vacuum the air our with a steel ring with holes that hangs between the two sheets. This way you can form 3D objects from both sides.
@alistairclark6814
@alistairclark6814 Год назад
Great video as I am just getting into making parts for my gliders this way! Another cheat for welding is to use your cell phone camera through a hole in a piece of ply wood. Then you have a clear view on a screen of what you are doing. 🤘
@filmfervor
@filmfervor 6 лет назад
Wow. Throwback to the old school. Still learning. Awesome!
@dandadamo4299
@dandadamo4299 6 лет назад
YESSSSS! I've been hoping for a tutorial for a bigger vacuum former for a while now! You rock, Bob!
@Iliketomakestuff
@Iliketomakestuff 6 лет назад
Great! Hope it was helpful!
@MidnightMaker
@MidnightMaker 6 лет назад
(1) I think it's great that the heater is an "Optimus"! (2) It's cool that you guys just talked about what past projects you'd remake on the podcast. Welcome back from BAMF!
@declanwhite
@declanwhite 6 лет назад
music is better than the older videos!
@KahBooom
@KahBooom 5 лет назад
For the MDF box with the heater, I'd recommend lining the inside of the box with some high temp aluminum foil tape, or even some engine bay high temp paint to help a little more to prevent the mdf from getting overheated and will help disperse the heat better as well. As for getting the full piece of material to heat a little better evenly, build another small frame with aluminum foil tape lined on the inside in the space between the heater box up top and have it go down to where the top of the metal frame would magnetize to the magnets.
@michaelthorsby
@michaelthorsby 5 лет назад
3D posters is a great usage of a vacuum former, typography and graphic elements. As the sheet is so thin it looks great on a wall.
@terrandel
@terrandel 3 года назад
Ive been catching up to your vids, and I LOVE THEM! I did want to note here for future generations of catcher uppers - NEVER use a face shield for welding like this. It's not safe in any way.
@eduardoschlichta431
@eduardoschlichta431 6 лет назад
A tip , for the vacuum work better is a good idea put some tape at the holes that are far from de object at the middle ,that increase the vacuum force
@nefix4m4n
@nefix4m4n Год назад
Dude you are awesome, I'm using heat resistors which are difficult to attach and keep in place, but your idea to use a heater is just magnificent
@djsavage2421
@djsavage2421 4 года назад
Thank you for the time in the material you invested in this project this video has been very informative for me because I intend to make is the center consul for my Harley Davidson and I’ve been trying to figure out how to make a mold. This is the perfect tool to make a mold now I will be able to use it to lay fiberglass and Carbon Fiber into an order to get the proper shape so thank you again
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