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How to make and use Pipe Mortar 

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Links below. [WARNING the fine particulate materials used in this video can cause significant health problems if inhaled. Please follow these instructions with care, and wear a respirator like this: amzn.to/2BmMvnN ] In this video I explain the thoughts behind and the reasons why I decided to develop my new pipe mortar, and I share the recipe. It is an in progress experiment , so please don't forget to share your results if you try it yourself.
Videos where I used pipe mortar:
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Aldo Velani: • Aldo Velani Restoratio...
Original pipe mud video: • Corn Cob Pipe Modifica...
recipe:
1 g Plaster of Paris
0.5 g Table Salt
0.6 g Activated Charcoal

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@gnosticnight
@gnosticnight 3 месяца назад
Just discovered and tried this in March 2024. Works great! A Vauen "starter pipe" (which I suspect was sold before the wood was fully dry) burned out, so I applied this concoction. It even allowed me to restore the charred airway. The first few smokes had a plaster-like taste, but the pipe was headed for the trash anyway. However, the taste is steadily improving. Hopefully, other damaged pipes of mine will do as well. Thanks for this great idea.
@theartfulcodger
@theartfulcodger 5 лет назад
You shall henceforth be known as the savior of pipes. I have a feeling that you just gave a secret weapon to pipe resellers everywhere. If you mission was to save pipes, I think you may have achieved your legacy buddy!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks Ben, that's about the nicest thing you could have said to me ;-) I appreciate it buddy!
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 5 лет назад
Here here I second that motion! You are very right Codger. It's goodbye pipe mud for me now, as I never had the confidence that I could consider it a solid fix because once the pipe gets an alcohol soak, the cigar ash washes away. I have a handful of pipes now that I can resell with confidence because of this fix. I worked with plaster as a sculptor for a decade so I can support this is solid and brilliant.
@theartfulcodger
@theartfulcodger 4 года назад
@@CaneRodPiper Hi Mike, just wanted to follow up on this video with my results. I've just finished using it on the fourth pipe, a nice little Kiko Lovat, in which the meer-lining had become damaged and cracked. I removed the lining and the old adhesive and used pipe mortar to fill the bottom back in and lightly coat the sides. The first three uses on various estates that had airways drilled to high worked out beautifully and as you said, have built cake quite nicely! After enough smokes, the surface is now totally indecipherable from a typical bowl interior and on one has survived an appropriately light reaming with flying colors. On behalf of everyone who has (and will benefit) from your research and generosity to share this recipe, "Thank You!" I hope it becomes "industry standard" to save pipes like this poor old Kiko.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
That is fantastic Ben! Thanks for sharing your success, and I am glad that you could save those pipes!
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 4 года назад
@@theartfulcodger and Canerod I have had great success on meerschaum lined pipes with this and briar pipes. Everything I looked at before said to use JB Weld, fireplace mortar, and waterglass(sodium silicate.)The only difference is that for briar pipes you just have to remember not to use a reamer. I have been doing the activated charcoal coating on some of my newer pipes to protect the chamber, and by far I like it much better than some factory carbon coatings. Some work really well, but I have one pipe that had it and would not take a cake, which I felt would be too much heat exposure without a layer of carbon. Overall it is a great way to save a lot of pipes without adding unnecessary chemicals.
@Teddybear.44
@Teddybear.44 19 дней назад
Excellent demonstration of how to make the perfect pipe mortar 👌
@jacobworkman6455
@jacobworkman6455 2 месяца назад
I’ve been using almost the same recipe for 25 years with great success.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 месяца назад
Very cool! Nothing new under the sun 😉
@MegaBIGSWEDE
@MegaBIGSWEDE Год назад
Just wanted to comment that I've had great success using your recipe to restore a Kaywoodie from the mid to late 40's that was extremely over-reamed. I basically created an entirely new chamber (3mm of mortar wall thickness) almost like a meerschaum lining as there was not much wood left at all. I first tried traditional pipe mud, but the chamber was so widened out all through the bowl that it just smoked terribly. Basically unsmokeable. I was ready to just chalk it up as experience until I inquired on Pipes Magazine forum and someone directed me to this video. Time will tell, but as of right now this is one of my best, if not the best smoking pipe I have with this mortar lined bowl. It's incredible and I really almost can't believe it. It's effortless to smoke, stays well lit, and smokes very cool. Anyway, I'm in the process of building a cake layer over the mortar. I'll keep you posted after smoking it for a while. If there's another thread on this somewhere that you could direct me to I would gladly post pictures and updates if it would be helpful to anyone. We'll see how it goes but I am super happy I was able to save this pipe from extinction! Thanks so much for not only making the recipe, but producing the video!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper Год назад
I'm really glad it helped you out and got that pipe back in service. Please do keep us posted!
@markprentice1961
@markprentice1961 10 месяцев назад
I've done this to four MM cobs and two briars and It works great! It absolutely makes for a better smoking experience in the cobs by eliminating that wood stem burning in the bottom of the bowl and trapping dottle. Hats off to you!
@gunscratch
@gunscratch 2 месяца назад
I recently made some pipe mud aka pipe cement out of wood ash from my log burner. Like this, it sets fast and hard without all the faff of measuring small amounts.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 месяца назад
That is great if it is working for you. I've never found ash alone to to provide a very long lasting patch, especially in repair work. But people have been using good old pipe mud for a long time, so nothing wrong with that if it does the job. Thanks for watching!
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 5 лет назад
I love the pipe community on youtube. Everyone seems so calm and friendly! I bought my first pipe a few weeks ago and I'm really enjoying it so far
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Welcome to the hobby and to the YTPC! Let us know if you have any questions about your pipe or pipe smoking in general. It can be confusing when you first start. Thanks for watching!
@djklose1
@djklose1 5 лет назад
Here's a tip if you're smoking a briar pipe. Don't smoke too far down the bowl letting the ember get too close to the draft hole. It'll create a crack atop the draft hole that'll continue up the chamber. Then you'll be referring back to this video. Happy smokes my friend.👍
@Eralen00
@Eralen00 5 лет назад
@@djklose1 Thanks for the tip! I have a couple briars but i personally prefer MM cobs, I love how cool and dry they smoke. I've never had to swab the condensation in the bit!
@djklose1
@djklose1 5 лет назад
@@Eralen00 No problem, I love my cobs too, they certainly are a lot more forgiving.
@Matches860
@Matches860 5 лет назад
This was well worth the wait! Thanks, Mike!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks John, I am glad that you enjoyed it and hope it helps save some pipes!
@christophersherratt7299
@christophersherratt7299 Месяц назад
When you put the mud in get a pencil with a rubber on the end tap it on a wet damp paper towel will help you smooth out the bottom
@troy4190
@troy4190 Год назад
I work at a cement plant. You are 100 percent right. Gypsum is an additive we use!
@Spritle550
@Spritle550 5 лет назад
Bravo Mike. Thanks for sharing this.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching!
@christopher_hawn
@christopher_hawn 4 года назад
I ruined two corn cob pipes using the old activated-charcoal-and-cigar-ash-and-water technique to round out the chamber bottom. It never fully solidified and flaked off with each smoke. So I trashed those pipes, got 2 new ones, and used this mortar recipe. It worked REALLY well, and dried in half the time! Thank you CaneRodPiper for a wonderful recipe and technique.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thanks for letting us know Christopher. I'm really glad that it worked well for you!
@zhengzanjie
@zhengzanjie 5 лет назад
That's really informative, thanks for sharing this recipe, can't wait to use it
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching Chandler, and please let us know how it works for you.
@stuffcompiler2121
@stuffcompiler2121 5 лет назад
Really interesting! I'm certainly gonna try it. Thanks for sharing!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching! If you do try it please let us know how it goes.
@brunotulliani
@brunotulliani 3 года назад
You Sir are a true gent!
@arthurputnam8909
@arthurputnam8909 Год назад
This method works great used it on two of my corncob. Thank you
@paintandpipes377
@paintandpipes377 5 лет назад
Thank you CaneRodPiper! Love your channel and your chill ways! A great watch and smoke! Looking forward to trying the mortar on a couple cobs. Peaceful smokes to you and all!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching, and please let us know how it works!
@pauliepipes2593
@pauliepipes2593 5 лет назад
Thank you for sharing the information. Nice to have a goto plan for repairing a cherished pipe.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching Paulie! I hope it works for you.
@herferville3633
@herferville3633 5 лет назад
Thank you for all your efforts to make our piping endeavors better! I plan on giving this a try.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching! And please be sure to let us know how it works for you.
@thebriardude8087
@thebriardude8087 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing this! I am attempting a repair with this tomorrow.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching, and please let us know how it works
@JDSilverTobaccoPipes
@JDSilverTobaccoPipes 3 года назад
This is great, thanks for the video. I use this carbon for repairing stems, so I'm good to go!
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami 6 месяцев назад
This is an excellent resource and truly outstanding video. Well done Sir.
@UnclePhilsCellar
@UnclePhilsCellar 5 лет назад
This seems a promising approach that I will no doubt try in due course. Many many thanks Mike
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching Phil, and please let us know if you do try it!
@thecountrygentleman6670
@thecountrygentleman6670 3 года назад
Ill be sure to try it! I make pipes from several materials from briar olive morta and now cherry and maybe some other hard woods but i think it will do good to coat the cherry wood bowls with the mortar
@danknug8053
@danknug8053 Год назад
Works great. It's now my got-to means of repair and cob mod.
@eaglpaul1
@eaglpaul1 Год назад
I’ve been looking for a good way to fill the bottom of my cobs so I don’t have a lot of wasted tobacco at the end of my smokes, glad I found this video. Thank you so much for this, I plan to try it out as soon as I can assembly the necessary ingredients.
@barrybecker3706
@barrybecker3706 5 лет назад
Bravo, (Pipe) Maestro!! Fantastic instructional video!!!!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching Barry!
@geoffryfeinberg1349
@geoffryfeinberg1349 4 года назад
You're a very smart guy, Mike. Thx!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
My pleasure Geoffry!
@codgerjim
@codgerjim 5 лет назад
Enjoyed the video. Will try on my next restoration and let you know how it works. I’ve learned so much from your videos and have recommended them to my son, a new pipe smoker and long time woodworker. Thank you again for unselfishly sharing your skills and knowledge.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for the kind words Jim, and for the referral ;-) I'll look forward to hearing about your experience with pipe mortar!
@theurbanhermit9879
@theurbanhermit9879 5 лет назад
Cane Rod Piper ! The man, the myth, the legend! Plus really cool guy! Very educational video my friend. Pipe restorers will be glad with this video!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you Everett, just be careful what you say as I still need to get my head through the doorways;-)
@jessej22
@jessej22 7 месяцев назад
Just tried this recipe a few days ago, excellent results. Thanks a million 🤠👍
@mrkopecky
@mrkopecky 5 лет назад
I’m going to try this out. Thanks.
@avelkm
@avelkm 4 года назад
First time to see your video, instant subscription! The way you present material is really good! ps i've been scientist myself)
@hoboperronegro3080
@hoboperronegro3080 5 лет назад
Ill give it a try, thanks for sharing!!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@glenndunnington8551
@glenndunnington8551 5 лет назад
Thanks for the video. Plan to try this on my cobs.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
You are quite welcome Glenn! Please let us know if you do use it and how it works for you.
@shkedov.b
@shkedov.b Год назад
Sincere thanks for such detailed explanations, you're so fascinating! Love from Israel
@kaceesavage
@kaceesavage 2 года назад
Forstner bit, why didn’t I think of that! 🤦‍♂️ this seems like a great concoction, I will give it a try. Thanks for the video
@peterjaimez1619
@peterjaimez1619 5 лет назад
Very interesting! I have made a few repairs and this looks promising. Don't have a pipe to try out at the moment but I will keep it in mind. Cheers
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you Peter, please be sure to let us know if you do try it., and thanks for watching!
@user-cw3df8si1w
@user-cw3df8si1w Месяц назад
Very neat trixk, hop I don't need to use this but definitely great information.
@parkersmithphoto
@parkersmithphoto Год назад
I am giving this a try using Durham's Rock Hard Water Putty. It is a limestone and clay mixture that uses a dextrin (a plant-based material) as a binder. No VOCs or acrylics. Good heat resistance and also maintains the ability to absorb moisture after it cures. I think this is going to be a winner.
@zekehooper
@zekehooper Год назад
going to get some
@philipdeppen3189
@philipdeppen3189 11 месяцев назад
Except it cracks and crumbles at burning temperatures which is why the manufacturer doesn’t recommend it being used for fire places etc.
@pipemandan8505
@pipemandan8505 5 лет назад
Excellent video! Thank you!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching Dan!
@humdrumm5456
@humdrumm5456 3 года назад
Excellent tutorial...thanks. 😎
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Rick-nf8ju
@Rick-nf8ju 5 лет назад
Enjoyed! Keep the videos coming.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@scottradasch217
@scottradasch217 4 года назад
Thanks Mr.CRP, I figured it should be done prior to staining/diamond buff/carnuba wax, just wanted to ask, after I follow your percise directions for the mortar and allowcuring time, I will give you a detailed write up on what my thoughts are on the mortar, thanks, scott
@markojeda7879
@markojeda7879 5 лет назад
I used this on a small morgan cob to test before I use it in other cobs. I doubled the batch and let it set for four days. I just had my first smoke with the new mortar and it seems to be awesome and much better than the pipe mud I previously used. The mortar set hard and I couldn't scratch any off when cleaning the bowl after the smoke. The mortar is great so far. Thanks for the recipe!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Mark, thank you so much for the feedback! I'm glad that it is working for you. Best, Mike.
@sunriseboy4837
@sunriseboy4837 4 года назад
Yeah, it worked very well on my two Legends.
@dane6k6
@dane6k6 5 лет назад
Thanks for showing how you do your mudding.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
You are welcome, I hope it will be helpful!
@NomDeTube
@NomDeTube 5 лет назад
Fantastic process! I’ll definitely give this a whirl and see what happens. That activated charcoal is no joke, I took the lid off my jug a little too fast one day and the kitchen looked like Mount St. Helens was prepping for a sequel. 😂 I really appreciate the effort that goes in to all you do! All too often “research” is just slang for clicking the first result in a Google search and skimming the page. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and putting in all the time required to get to the point that you’re ready to share!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks Andy! The only thing worse than the activated charcoal is that powdered carnuba you kindly sent to me. It's great stuff but it gets everywhere and you can't see it. Things still feel slightly gritty :-) Thanks for all the kind words and do please let us know how the pipe mortar works in your hands. Best, Mike.
@ssluper
@ssluper 3 года назад
This was an incredible video. I mixed exactly as stated and used an infrared light to slightly harden the mortar before clearing the draft hole. The edges are defined and it worked like a charm. The mortar dried solid by the next morning. I will smoke tomorrow. Thank you for the information!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
I'm glad it worked for you! Thanks for the feedback.
@Jesus_Wojak
@Jesus_Wojak Год назад
Pretty good idea, this is also mostly tasteless and the salt helps a bit whith pipefunk!
@ericforsii9933
@ericforsii9933 3 года назад
I am not a RU-vidr, ...but I'm very glad that you are. I make amateur hand-carved Osage pipes and have had a couple blanks that turned out to have internal faults in the wood. Most of these are not too big and I have been able to work around them. I hate to throw away a promising piece of wood I seasoned for a couple years for a small flaw. On three pipes now I have followed your recipe but modified it by using Sodium Silicate (water glass) in place of the water to blend the mortar paste. It has been very effective for me so far though I don't smoke so often as to really intensely test the stuff. My smoking habit is only about one or two bowls per week, ...sometimes even less. I also tried using food grade diatomaceous earth in place of the plaster of Paris. It worked, as well, but the texture was not as smooth.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
I'm glad that it is working for you and that you are making modifications too@ Thanks for passing the information along, and thanks for watching!
@simoneconigliaro7393
@simoneconigliaro7393 4 года назад
Great idea!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thanks for watching Simone!
@johanwaldolf5722
@johanwaldolf5722 4 года назад
Thank you for sharing the information. Up here in the northen part of europe (Sweden), corn cob pipes can be somewhat hard to find. Of course i can get them from internet but always with crazy shipping costs. This method will for sure increase the lifespan of my corn cob pipes. I must say it is fantastic how passionate the ytpc are over our common hobby and how generusly people are sharing their trix and fix. Big Thanks! and all the best to all of you in the ytpc.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thank you Johan, I am glad that you found it useful and hope that it works for you!
@Smartiebob317
@Smartiebob317 2 года назад
Going back thru your old videos here. It's great to see your progression in the YTPC. Congrats on your weight loss I admire you very much. Amazing how the old standards of the community value your info also. Noticed like you have the attention of the likes of Matches860 and Muttnchop. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 💨💨
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
Thank you Bob, that is very kind. I think I'm just stubborn and routine. If you make enough videos, eventually one or two are good enough to get noticed 😂😉👍
@donotneed1
@donotneed1 5 лет назад
Really cool, thanks Mike. 👍🏻👏🏻 I had a feeling since the bing's favorite video and how well that went with the burnout fix this video would make it's debut soon. I think I might try this on a maple pipe that I have with the beginning of a burnout. I'll let you know how things progress. Take care and stay warm.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks Dave, I am glad that you liked it! Please do keep us posted on the maple. Thanks for watching!
@bbcustomoutdoors
@bbcustomoutdoors 5 лет назад
Fascinating!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Glad you liked it Brian!
@Lutrasaurus
@Lutrasaurus 4 года назад
I have used activated charcoal and pipe mud mixed together. I will give this a try. Thank you for sharing.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thanks, and I hope it works for you!
@battlecreekpiper3533
@battlecreekpiper3533 4 года назад
Thank you Mike l will try this.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thanks Michael, please let me know how it works for you.
@colonelcalabash1
@colonelcalabash1 3 года назад
Thank You, thank you and thank you. This is 100% the thing I was looking for. I purchased at a low price a beautiful pipe. It had a small flaw in the side of the bowl. A small hole all the way thru. This enabled me to fix the hole and since the panel where the hole is is rustic you cannot even see the repair. All natural safe ingredients and easy and inexpensive. Could not ask for anything better. I have subscribed and liked this episode and am looking forward to your other videos.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
I am very glad it worked for you James! Thanks for the sub and for taking the time to comment and share your experience.
@cafeteropiper2811
@cafeteropiper2811 5 лет назад
Thanks a lot, Mike. I've been waiting for this ever since you mentioned it on your restoration videos. I have a poorly drilled basket pipe that will be a great subject for trying out your pipe mortar on. Too bad I don't have access to a scale so the proportions will have to be eyeballed. Will let you know how that turns out. Thanks again. Cheers! Dan
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Hi Dan, I hope it works out for you! You can get very inexpensive scales, for example: amzn.to/2UsEFjp but eyeballing will probably get you something that is still better than mud. Please be sure to let us know how it goes.
@sunriseboy4837
@sunriseboy4837 4 года назад
You can buy a set of scales off eBay for less than ten bucks! It's 2019 now mate, not 1960.
@olivewoodpiper8277
@olivewoodpiper8277 5 лет назад
Fantastic video Mike. Great advice on burnout repair. I have an estate that might get the treatment
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you Carl, please let us know how it goes if you do try the pipe mortar.
@hussamhm3701
@hussamhm3701 5 лет назад
thank you
@marknapoli8736
@marknapoli8736 4 года назад
Thanks so much!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
You are welcome! Thanks for watching!
@maxboonkittypoison
@maxboonkittypoison 5 лет назад
oh this is perfect i had a corncob burn out once in right wen i becan to smoking pipe. had i known this i would have made a repair on my pipe. well now i know how to do it and if its broken you cannot make it more broken so just try to repair it. Thank You :D Greetings,, Kitty.
@maxboonkittypoison
@maxboonkittypoison 4 года назад
I now wonder if i could mix in a litle bit of briar dust for burn out repair in the wall of the tobacco chaimber?? Or is that still a un known factor?? I have a early '30's pipe with several burnouts that i like to repair but the walls are verry thin in some places. I still need to buy a scale that is more presies than wat i got at the moment :) If you don't know jet i wil experiment with adding the briar dust and let you know how it went :D Greetings,, Kitty.
@cheesypiper1994
@cheesypiper1994 4 года назад
great video I will use for my cob, also I broke a meerschuam and I might try to stick it back with this stuff
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Good luck! Leave the activated charcoal out for a meer. Thanks for watching!
@kds471
@kds471 5 лет назад
Thanks for the info!!!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
You are welcome, Thanks for watching!
@kevineast9211
@kevineast9211 3 года назад
I've found it useful to mix a large batch of mortar, carefully maintaining CRP's proportions. That way when you need it, it's premixed so you can spoon out whatever amount you need.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
Hi Kevin, I'm glad that is working for you. I worry that the relatively coarse table salt will separate from the finer powders, so I weigh out individual portions into small plastic Ziploc bags. That way I can be sure to mix everything well before adding water. Perhaps I'm being overly cautious. I might try your method and see. Thanks!
@kevineast9211
@kevineast9211 2 года назад
@@CaneRodPiper Well, it worked if I dug into the mixture shortly--say, within a month--after I'd mixed it. However, many months later, for some reason I don't yet understand, it wouldn't mix with the water. Could the ingredients have reacted somehow in their dry state? At any rate, after a couple of tries, I chucked the lot and mixed a new batch. Perhaps your caution about mixing larger batches was in order. Where I have used it, it has held without any problem.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
@@kevineast9211 Hmmm. It might be that as the materials settled you were taking more of something off top slowly changing the mix. But not mixing with water is odd. Anyway, thank you for the update and good luck with the next batch.
@vvmcnamara
@vvmcnamara Год назад
It seems to me that if you were to store the mix in a container with enough empty space to easily shake before using, and could prevent exposure to moisture whether by seal, silica pack, or other method(s), then you have a sellable product.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper Год назад
Shaking it makes too much airborne dust. Personally, I think that is a health hazard.
@djklose1
@djklose1 5 лет назад
I tend to smoke to far down the bowl and have burnt out the draft hole on a couple of my pipes. The bent pipes are more susceptible to damage in this way because of the wedge that exists between the chamber wall and the angled draft hole. One pipe has a bad crack from the draft hole up the chamber wall. I've struggled with trying to make pipe mud work, but like you said it only lasts so long before it starts to crumble away. I look forward to trying this method and reaching a more permanent solution. My Savinelli and I thank you very much for this video!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you, and I hope it works for you. Thanks for watching!
@paulthescandinavian4992
@paulthescandinavian4992 5 лет назад
Thank You Mike ,this was very useful information especially for the undersigned who is master at overheating chamber walls,I have had few pretty pricey refurbished estate pipes with naked chambers and even when was trying to break them smoking slow I managed to get inside chambers having some slight indications of burns out and tiny cracks on inside walls which I eventually had to sand down and proceeding from there further with some honey application in order to get cake to build up faster, nonetheless at the same time sugars do increase heat as well so I do assume there are more appropriate ways to go, Best Greets , and Thank you for Your time for sharing Your knowledge,paul
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Hi Paul, Thank you for watching and for the comment! It sounds like you have had some bad luck there. Yo can try thinning the honey with some warm water and adding some activated charcoal. That is one of several hundred bowl coating recipes you can find, and they all do basically the same thing. Best, Mike.
@paulthescandinavian4992
@paulthescandinavian4992 5 лет назад
@@CaneRodPiper All Right Mike , That sounds like a good preventive measure.I'll take it into practice right away, Many Thanks , and have a nice start to this very winter weekend,stay warm, Best Greets,Paul
@sunriseboy4837
@sunriseboy4837 4 года назад
Hey, Mike, great presentation. Thank you. Before I put the mud in I use a spray bottle on the finest mist setting and holding it about five or so inches from the bowl, give it one pump. It provides a bit of moisture to the cob and allows for a bit better adhesion. And I use a very small screw driver to shape the bottom of the bowl whilst the mortar is still pliable. I'm very surprised that, after modifying two Legends, how incredibly well they smoke! Here we've got a six dollar pipe smoking just as well, IMO, as any pipe on the market. Anyway, thanks again, Mike. I really appreciate good tuition.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Good tip! I'm glad that you are finding the videos useful.
@ronadams8853
@ronadams8853 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this! I am trying this on a beautiful Amphora pipe that has odd gouges in the bowl. I'll let you know how it goes. Cheers
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks Ron! I am glad that you are going to give it a try. Good luck, and let me know if I can offer any help.
@bigfil1981
@bigfil1981 4 месяца назад
I've just given this a go today, I couldn't find carbon powder so had to use a fine grit and grind it down. so i'll come back and let you know how it goes.
@bigfil1981
@bigfil1981 4 месяца назад
It dried ok but crumbled away. So trying again today with fine powder carbon.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 месяца назад
Hope that works out for you.
@papaj316
@papaj316 5 лет назад
Absolutely fascinating. I love the way you think about these things and then apply your research. I think there is a way to Market this. What you would do excel the components separately in little bags of the properly measured components. You could actually design the bags with a perforation between bags. In other words like plastic trash can bags will individually come off a long roll, put three bags together with perforations in between them. Sell it in a pack of 10, 20 or whatever. And place the package in a little box like seven Ellie Balsa filters for instance. This would save somebody like me the hassle applying a scale measuring the powder Etc. I for one don't have the patience to do that plus I would spill it all over the place. Call the product, "LET'S GET PLASTERED" and underneath say pipe mortar for repairing yada yada yada. Just a few ideas if you ever want to do it let's talk about hooking up. Love your stuff and support you 1000% my friend. God bless you talk to you later
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thank you Jimmy, I really appreciate your support! I'm not sure I want to get into the pipe mortar distribution business, but you certainly have some good ideas there. Of course, if a friend needed a pipe mortar kit, that could probably be put together and mailed out for the price of a few bowls of tobacco ;-) God bless, Mike.
@SaurasriSen
@SaurasriSen Год назад
Cane Rod Piper is really a thorough gentleman,like those scientists who lived and worked 50/70 years ago. They didn't care for profit or patents. They researched for the love and understanding of the ways mother Nature work. They worked for the benefit of mankind. I also appreciate his sense of humour. Now I am going to use his formula to plug up a nasty burn out in a vintage(?) La Savinelli Punto Oro 1001 sandblasted stummel which I recently bought from Etsy. The damage showed up when the chamber was thoroughly reamed. I first used the formula in a Missouri Meerschaum hardwood pipe after doing away with the shank extension and it worked like a charm. Hope the burn out will be fixed and I will be able to add another excellent pipe to my rotation. Thanks.
@1st67mustang390
@1st67mustang390 4 года назад
I am brand new to this so please forgive my ignorance. I am trying to make my own pipe out of cherry wood or some other fruit wood. The first one turned out great and I learned a lot. 1. I make the bowl opening way to big 2. I made the walls too thin. Having said that it did develop cracks through the side. I have been searching for a way to seal the cracks through the side. What I know, concrete and steel have the same expansion contraction rate which is what allows concrete to be reinforced with rebar and thus skyscrapers and reinforced concrete is a thing. WIthout that physical property it would crack apart from temperature oscillation. Having given that example, and the fact you've developed this mortar and used it successfully for some time, I would "assume" through simple use as proof that the expansion and contraction of your mortar is close enough if not identical to the wood and or is flexible enough not to crack or disintegrate. If any of you have a blown out bottom or cracks through the side, I wonder if you can use this as a filler to restore the pipe? If so, I think it would be awesome to restore really really broken pipes, the more cracked and broken the better. What I would do is restore it with this putty and then gold leaf ONLY the morter once I've fixed, sanded and gotten to the polish final stage before oil. This is why it would be so beautiful in the end the more repairs that were done. All the natural shapes of the repaired cracks would be gold....like lightning zigging through it. Maybe im overly imaginative, but if it worked, old broken pipes could be very very valuable and collectable/ usable again with this mortar if it works as well as I hope it does. Anyway, I would LOVE comments telling me why this won't work and or if you think it will, if yo uall could try what im saying and then maybe post videos? I gave away the pipe I made. It was a replica from lord of the rings and I gave it away as a "non functioning" gift prop piece. THanks all that read this far!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Hello, and thanks for the question. he pipe mortar is harder than the cigar ash based pipe mud, but it still is not hard enough to repair a crack or burnout that goes all the way through. It is basically plaster, so you could scratch it with a fingernail. If you are interested I have a series on repairing a burnout that goes through the bowl here: ru-vid.com/group/PLQFCU-_AnJEmTK4RJ37euc_Z88T-nPECg and I am working on a series that shows the repair of a crack in a bowl here: ru-vid.com/group/PLQFCU-_AnJEmTYKaLbBGphvlHs0iF7z3M I hope that helps, and let me know if you have any questions.
@sebastianschultheiss9571
@sebastianschultheiss9571 5 лет назад
Very good video, and I think a very promising technique. I will actually try this in the next days on a few different candidates. I was wondering if it is worth it to try and add some pumice. Its volcanic, safe, cheap and a good heat insulator. Of course you still need gipsum as a binder.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Hi Sebastian, Pumice is used in some bowl coating recipes. I don't think it would hurt, but I also don't think it would really be necessary. It would make an interesting experiment! Please let us know how it works, and if you do try the pumice. Best, Mike.
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 5 лет назад
I gave it a shot on two pipes so far, and it is a solid fix. I would not however use a reamer, or recommend it on a pipe that has been fixed this way. I would suggest to anyone that does this, or gets a pipe like this to just gently remove cake with sandpaper after it is build up, and be careful around the rim. There is no reason a pipe fixed this way cannot be smoked many more times. The best part is that there needs to be no worry about chemicals when smoking. The pipe mortar is also a good way I think to coat the inside of a bowl after you have fixed a cracked pipe. It builds a nice wall in between whatever you used to bond the cracks. I am going to give it a shot on a GBD that has come my way with 5 cracks goong from the rim down to the middle.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your experience! I am glad that you are finding it useful. Best, Mike.
@CJsgarage01
@CJsgarage01 5 лет назад
Very interesting
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching JIm!
@alexanderheiden3435
@alexanderheiden3435 3 года назад
Thank you for this video. I restore pipes and I've been experimenting trying to find the best way to fill burn outs and spider webbing. I've used JB Weld, but it doesn't breathe. Pipe mud takes a long time to dry/cure and is brittle. I am eager to try this!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
Thank you, and please let us know how it works if you do try it. Thanks for watching!
@alexanderheiden3435
@alexanderheiden3435 3 года назад
@@CaneRodPiper I've given it a try on multiple pipes now. It seems to work fairly well, but I have trouble getting the ratios correct to resemble yours in the video. It typically ends up very sticky rather than like your clay.
@bluestarindustrialarts7712
@bluestarindustrialarts7712 5 лет назад
This video is total ASMR
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
I had to look it up, but thank you (I think ;-)
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 5 лет назад
Well done man! I would also like to add I did sculpture for a long time, and we used a lot of plaster. If we wanted it to harden slower we would mix it with cold water. If we wanted to speed up the process we would mix it with warmer to hot water, depending on how much time we needed to work with it. As a restoration guy you just saved a Bertram, a Savinelli, and a handful of others I have in bins. Thanks!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks, and I'm glad that you found it helpful! It probably goes without saying, but if you are using it on pipes for others, please be sure to always let them know about the repair. It's great to know that those pipes will be back in service!
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 5 лет назад
@@CaneRodPiper Sure thing! I always mention repairs. I would rather have a pipe be enjoyed by me or someone else rather than sit. Especially an old one. Cannot beat those oldies but goodies.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
@@pipeclub4789 Absolutely! And I assumed that you would, but hope you understand why I had to make the point. Good luck, and please let me know how it works.
@pipeclub4789
@pipeclub4789 5 лет назад
@@CaneRodPiper No problem. I understand. I will be sure to let you know. This video was passed on to me from a friend, and I am going to pass it on to some other restoration pals that would love to give it a shot as well.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for sharing the information!
@philipdeppen3189
@philipdeppen3189 11 месяцев назад
Easiest most effective way without doing all this is just make a cigar or cigarette ash mud add a few drops of sodium silicate and mix it in the mud. Perfectly safe and it basically makes glossy gray black glass and it dries fast
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 11 месяцев назад
That's an option, but sodium silicate puts a lot of people off because of its toxicity in liquid form. It is not easy to find and comparatively expensive. But thanks for offering another approach. Glad you have something that works for you.
@scottradasch217
@scottradasch217 4 года назад
Just used pipe mortar and this really worked, instead of plaster of Paris, I use hydrocal, which is used for model railroading, it is a gypsum powder and is very easy to use with activated charcoal and salt
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Thanks for letting us know Scott! And that is a good tip on the hydrocal because some folks have had trouble sourcing plaster of Paris. Take care!
@VictorPassapera
@VictorPassapera 2 года назад
Description for Hydrocal says: Warning: do not use for body casting as it may burn or irritate skin. This is product is not designed for use by children. Seems less safe to use than Plaster of Paris?
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
I suggest you look up the MSDS and see if there are any red flags. And obviously don't do anything your not comfortable doing. Both PP and hydrocal are hazards if you inhale the dust, or eat the powder (because it will set up in your gut). But once they have set up in the pipe there shouldn't be an issue. However I have not carefully researched hydrocal and it does seem that there are a number of different types. Thanks for the question!
@oomhoward7462
@oomhoward7462 5 лет назад
👍👍👍👍 Thanks for sharing.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Thanks for watching!
@erdiabolo
@erdiabolo 3 года назад
Hey there! I wanted to let you know that I bought a small digital scale and I tried the mix. I made my very first pipe stummel and, while learning, I accidentally got past the airway hole in the chamber. I wanted to fix it so I used the mortar to bring the bottom of the bowl up. I have not yet smoked it as I have to make the stem, but when I complete it ill let you know if it smokes will with it. BUT!!! It definitely worked!! as far as filling up that gap. And it is SOLID (after drying) and it adhered great to the briar.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 3 года назад
Hi Rafael, thanks much for the feedback! Glad it worked for you my friend.
@erdiabolo
@erdiabolo 3 года назад
@@CaneRodPiper update. So far it (and another one I made with the same issue) smoke perfectly!
@baldpiper
@baldpiper 2 года назад
Recently purchased a pipe off eBay. Couldn't tell it in the pictures. Upon receipt burn out with through cracks. I plan to give this a try. Once I do I'll leave my results
@baldpiper
@baldpiper 9 месяцев назад
To date, been smoking it with no issue. Thank you very much for passing on info freely.
@richardk8313
@richardk8313 20 дней назад
Well I tried Pipe Mortar on several pipes now cobs and briars following the recipe in the video and I found the results disappointing at best…not only is it a bit messy and more time consuming to apply compared to muddying with cigar ash but it simply does not hold up as well…after allowing several days for the pipe mortar to dry in the pipe bowl my smoked pipes returned it to its wetted stage and when it had time again to dry out produced a powdery dust-like residue that had to be shaken out of the bowl before smoking again. All things being equal I am of the opinion that muddying with cigar ash remains a better and simpler way to go. Not perfect but superior to pipe mortar as addressed in this video.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 19 дней назад
Hi Richard, I am sorry to learn that it did not work for you. I've never had it go soft or wet after it has set, and I know a lot of people use the same recipe without problems. I wonder if it might be an issue with your ingredients. If you want to send me the details (canerodpiper at Gmail), I would like to try and troubleshoot this problem and have an answer in case it comes up again. Thank you for the honest feedback!
@richardk8313
@richardk8313 16 дней назад
@@CaneRodPiper moisture from the burned tobacco will re-moisten the hardened mortar and when it (the mortar) dries again between smoking sessions will leave a small amount of powdery residue in the bowl. Shake the bowl and you will see it fall out. The entire process is more time consuming and messier than cigar ash muddying and I am finding powdery black mortar all over the place. I did follow your recipe. Pipe muddying using wetted cigar ash is not perfect but will in the case of cobs slow down burn-thru and takes very little time. As for briars, I’d have to have a very needy bowl to resort to using pipe mortar. Sorry I am just not sold on the use of pipe mortar as a replacement for muddying at least in the case of cobs. Having said, I am glad that it is working for you and others may want to give it a try on a pipe or two. Thank you. One man’s opinion only. Others mileage may differ.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 16 дней назад
Thanks Richard!
@braccorisan8274
@braccorisan8274 5 лет назад
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@richardk8313
@richardk8313 29 дней назад
An excellent, excellent video, Thank you so much. As a long time cigar ash mudder I am excited to know there may be a better option. Does it also alleviate or lesson pipe gurgling issues? I primarily work with cobs - renovations and aesthetic enhancements.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 28 дней назад
Thank you, I hope it will be of some use in your work. It will do the same as pipe mud in raising the bottom of the bowl. So I don't think it will be very different in how it might address a gurgle.
@scottradasch217
@scottradasch217 4 года назад
I will leave feedback on the mortar of what I think about it, in a detail write up of what I like and what I think is lacking if anything is lacking about it
@allanvaz3268
@allanvaz3268 2 года назад
I'd like to extend my gratitude on behalf of all amateur pipe enthusiasts for this amazing video. I as hoping you could help me with a little issue that I have following your instructions. The pipe mortar mixture that I have mixed (according to the proportions given by you) is not setting even after 4-6 hours.. This is the second time I tried it.. I left some of it outside and saw that it was leaking water.. Is this because of the salt? Can I omit it? Is there another way to fix it?
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
Thank you for the kind words Allan! That is strange, and my first thought is that you are adding too much water. The salt should help the plaster set faster and harder. You can certainly try omitting it. If you are still have trouble send me an email at canerodpiper@gmail and we can try and trouble shoot. Good luck!
@defcon1742
@defcon1742 8 месяцев назад
Looking for a good low cost briar. Lowest Rossi I’m seeing is $58. At this price, cobs seem like a great deal at the $18 you mentioned
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 8 месяцев назад
Could be. It's all relative, after all 😉
@derrikduff6621
@derrikduff6621 2 года назад
Hello again, another great video and I've already ordered the charcoal powder to get started but was hoping you could let me know how it's held up long term? Particularly In cobs I plan on doing it to all my cobs to protect the bottoms. Thanks in advance.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
Thank you! I have used this in a lot of pipes for customers and have not gotten anything but positive feedback. I also know at least two other pipe repair guys that are using it as a bowl coating. So all indications are that it works well and holds up long term.
@flitdek
@flitdek 5 лет назад
Great video mike . I'v got several estate pipes I will try this on. At what point should a pipe be considered a candidate for, pipe Mortar, when it comes to the distance of the draft hole and bottom of bowl ? For example a straight pipe where the draft hole is basically on the side wall of the bowl but the bottom of the draft hole is dead even with the bottom of the bowl; VS a straight pipe where the bottom of the bowl has been reamed below the draft hole by lets say 1/8th" or more? No burn out. Cheers
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
I don't think that there is a hard and fast rule. I know what a good draft hole looks like, and just go from there. In the past I was reluctant to use pipe mud unless the bottom of the bowl was significantly lower (1/8 inch would count as significant) because it was sort of a last resort, but with pipe mortar I might be willing to make more minor adjustments. Thanks, and be sure to let us know how it works for you!
@sinelocum
@sinelocum 2 года назад
I just made this for the first time and made it sloppy wet. Hopefully it’ll set up and dry out without ruining the pipe.
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
Hi Mark, I never tried it sloppy wet for the bottom, so it might take a while to set up. But I do thin it down to a yogurt like consistency for bowl coating and that always sets up fine. Please let me know how it turns out.
@sinelocum
@sinelocum 2 года назад
@@CaneRodPiper it was accidental, and it was the consistency of a thick yogurt drink. I’m using it in a MM General where the bottom of the bowl is approximately 3/8” below the bottom of the shank. I removed the shank to allow for better access, but did not succeed in filling the void despite quadrupling your recipe - although I did throw some away because I thought there was enough in the bowl. Perhaps the cob’s ability to absorb moisture is making the volume of mortar shrink. It’s a fun process, and I’m excited to see how it smokes once completed.
@scottradasch217
@scottradasch217 4 года назад
Hey Mr. CRP, this worked well on a restoration I have done, can you use this technique on a brand new unsmoked pipe to protect the wood and stimulated carbon cake formation safely and quickly, thanks Scott
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Hi Scott, I use it thinned down to coat the bowl so that cake forms evenly when I do a patch. I see no reason why it would not work, but honestly have not used it in that way. If I wanted a bowl coating I would probably use one of the recipes that use sour cream or honey as a binding agent.
@frankieweisse9089
@frankieweisse9089 5 лет назад
Great vid Mike. Question: Would this be a good solution for raising the base of a pipe bowl which has the draft hole drilled in too high, resulting in too much unburned dottle when smoked? I have a pipe like this, and am always throwing away more tobacco than I'd like to do, since the draft hole doesn't get any "draft" to it, so it doesn't combust. Also, do you know a better solution to this problem? Love to hear your opinion. Thanks!
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 5 лет назад
Hi Frank, That is essentially what I did with this cob, and yes, I think it would work well with a briar pipe that has that issue. Just remember to coat the bowl so that the cake builds evenly. Thanks for watching, and let me know if I can answer any questions.
@scottradasch217
@scottradasch217 4 года назад
Hi Mr.CRP, I'm restoring an old pipe, I have stripped the finish with ISP BATH, removed the old stain with acetone and multiple grits of sand paper, I made a retort by your instruction, it has been retorted, carefully filled the sand pits with briar dust and CA glue, re sanded, re acetoned, now should I do my stain and over stain, diamond buff and carnuba wax, then apply the mortar or should I do the mortar prior to the final restoration of staining/buffing/waxing, which do you suggest, as part of the pre retort I dremeled the inside of the bowl with a sand stone, acetone/ISP wash then multiple grit sand paper, so it is properly prepped for mortar, thanks Scott
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 4 года назад
Hi Scott, I would do the mortar first since it is a messy process and you wouldn't want to mess up you nice new finish. Sounds like you are doing a fantastic jon on the pipe. Good luck finishing it up!
@wisconsinwoodsman1987
@wisconsinwoodsman1987 2 года назад
Has the recipe evolved over time, Mike?
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper 2 года назад
If you mean has it changed since this video, then no. I did experiment with it off and on for a few years, but I waited till I had something I really liked before making the video.
@shadowspectrum
@shadowspectrum Год назад
Hi, I realize this is is an old video, but a couple of questions you could maybe answer for me. If I were to coat the bowl of a cob in the mortar, would this affect permeability? One of my favorite things about smoking cobs is how they breathe and watching them color over time. And, do you think this mortar would dry hard enough to be able to be used to reset a loose cob shank, or do you think that's better left to the Elmer's glue? Thanks
@CaneRodPiper
@CaneRodPiper Год назад
To the first question, I really don't know. The bowls carbonize pretty fast so any permeability is short lived with or without coating. The color is really a reaction to heat. But again I don't know. To the second question, I would stick with glue. It's simple and it works. I'm not sure the mortar would hold up in that situation. Thanks for watching 👍
@christophersherratt7299
@christophersherratt7299 Месяц назад
Just came across your old video in stead of salt use baking soda powder
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