How to Make Homemade (Cultured) Cashew Cheese

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Hey guys! Joy here, I'm a Holistic Nutritionist, mama and Founder of Joyous Health (www.joyoushealth.com). In this video, I share how to make your own homemade cultured/fermented cashew cheese. It's amazing for gut health and very digestible!
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@handefabbro 2 года назад

I’ve just tried it and I’m so happy with the result 😎🤩👍

@joyoushealth 2 года назад

Awesome!

@lisajurraro 2 года назад

@@joyoushealth if I were to make this plain. No herbs, garlic etc. Could I use this in recipes calling for cream cheese?

@lorettamccabe1089 2 года назад

Wow absolutely amazing, definitely will make thanks 🙏 so much 😘🤗😎

@michellenitschke5485 4 года назад

Thankyou, Thankyou, Thankyou for NOT having background music while you are speaking. !!!!

@tormentedsoul7852 4 года назад

No Kidding

@evierice2230 3 года назад

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@meimouornitier7780 3 года назад

@@evierice2230 ok dude...

@marioemiliopascale8700 3 года назад

U x,y£

@eileenwilson7421 Год назад

😅😅😅😅

@LeeLeeLove222 4 года назад

I love this video! I love this girl! This is probably the best video I've found, I'm vegan and this is going to help me so much! I cant wait to try it! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!❤

@empress7222 5 лет назад

Learnt new things from this video, thanks so much!!!!😍🌱🌱

@bethholt1517 Год назад

I just love , love ,love this recipe. I have made it many times. Tkx so much.🙏🏼👍🏼

@kathleenswenning9915 5 лет назад

Omg, I want to try this so much, it’s definitely next level being fermented in this way! You made this recipe easy enough to follow and not so intimidating! I just subscribed! I’m looking forward to more of your great next level recipes and your unique way of presenting them to us, in this instance it was a little scientific, which is necessary for this recipe! Thank you for your efforts and knowledge!

@dizziemisslizzie9884 4 года назад

This is so amazing! I'm trying this

@tracymcneil2887 4 года назад

Thanks !! I’m going to try this tomorrow!!

@michaelamarcucci3135 3 года назад

Definetly gonna make this. Also shout out to your probiotic tips/gut health tips particularly for Eczema. Within a month of not eating gluten specifically and taking probiotics everyday my hand eczema has cleared up dramatically. My flare up was going on 4 months. Keep it up girl, you know what you're doing.

@artemb3429 4 года назад

Thank you so much Joy, you did a great video. Great recipe, I will definitely try!

@KimAtkins60 5 лет назад

Thank you! Your video is so upbeat and a pleasure to watch! I am definitely going to make this cheese!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Thanks so much Kim! Enjoy!

@jorgefernendes6685 5 лет назад

Will try today, sounds very good. I had before but never made it. thank you

@feliciacarter1962 4 года назад

I enjoyed watching your video. You made making cashew cheese sound so easy and beneficial that I have to try it. The questions I had were answered in the recipe. I can’t wait to try it. Thx a bunches.

@bethholt1517 3 года назад

I love this recipe, it rocks. Makes awesome cheese. Thanks so much.

@yolandivanrensburg8996 5 лет назад

I am definitely making this one! Thank you;)

@halinakozlowska2672 Год назад

Thanks for not being bored.

@JayJay-yz5gb Год назад

Awesome! 👏Thank you for sharing!

@joshnova9163 5 лет назад

Looks delish! Thanks Elvira!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Oh maybe that's my next Halloween costume, I won't even have to dress up.

@chrisandmarcia4798 5 лет назад

Thanks for the recipe. I’m gonna try it. I’ve been researching gut health recipes and kind of intimidated by other fermented recipes. Feel like I can accomplish this one 😂 fingers crossed 🤞 thanks for sharing

@mariadiantherese9663 4 года назад

I love this channel! What infectious happiness and enthusiasm. It was this video that inspired me to go get everything needed to DO THIS!!!! Great channel. Stay happy!!!

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Maria Dian Therese that’s awesome! Can’t wait to hear about the yumminess in a few days 😉

@lifelearningwithhorses7487 5 лет назад

Just made a batch this morning. Thanks for the fine video.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Exploring with Jan you’re welcome! Enjoy!!

@giselenascimento6157 5 лет назад

Hi Joy, thank you so much for this recipe.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Gisele Nascimento you’re welcome!

@staciejung8198 5 лет назад

Warm, like 71 degrees. So cute, that's so Canadian.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

@carlosmarte3154 5 лет назад

Stacie Jung I was thinking the same thing, I live in Florida and that’s Oct/Nov weather lol.

@sillejuulkjaerbo4723 3 года назад

@@joyoushealth I can't hear you probably in the video, do you leave the oven on or off? ':D

@debbietampasheher3682 3 года назад

Lol

@teeahtate 3 года назад

I am going to try this. Thanks

@JonathanDLynch 5 лет назад

"When I'm entertaining I definitely want to cut the cheese..." Yes, I often feel this way :)

@LovelyPeach40 4 года назад

It is beautiful I have lost so much stomach weight and I make began cheese from sweet potato with cashews and it's great the only cheese I really eat is queso when I go to Mexican restaurant only. You can due it hug

@denisemayosky1955 4 года назад

Hope you warn your guests first!

@ah-ss7he 4 года назад

I cut the cheese as I read this 😶

@fukcudave2686 3 года назад

; >)

@KatrinaMiller117 11 дней назад

Let er rip! 😂

@sheluxuries 4 года назад

Love the heart cookie cutter idea! Definitely gonna try this, thanks!

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Great!! Hope you love it!!

@almadolan5170 4 года назад

Thank you, Thank you...You are helping turn peoples health around. God bless you.

@Revolutioninja2.0 2 года назад

I love your. Happy Mother’s Day!

@gabby1472 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing this recipe!! Definitely want to try it out. I rimse my cashews after they soak otherwise they'll give me a stomach ache

@consuelobarrow1966 4 года назад

I love your recipe.

@NourishedWithLove 5 лет назад

Yum! I’m definitely trying this. Thank you!

@beautifuldreamer3991 5 лет назад

Thank you for sharing!!!!

@athenaenergyshine7616 4 года назад

I am so going to try this

@sandyallen1488 4 года назад

I make rejuvalac from organic quinoa and filtered water. Easy peasy. Full of probiotics. I also use miso (different recipe). I put the cheese in a glass container with a lid and let it ferment on the counter. After a couple of days I have sharp cheddar...so yummy.

@carlkenyon4599 4 года назад

I must try this too .

@cathyphegley7414 5 лет назад

I am so excited to try this. I adore cheese but dairy is not my friend.💕

@kats4976 4 года назад

I'm on a journey to a more plant based diet. I am so excited to try this! Thanks!

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Awesome! Eating more plants is always a good idea. I eat anywhere from 80-90% plant-based as does my family.

@cristinahorning8483 4 года назад

I can't believe I just found your channel! I saw you give a talk here in Calgary at Community Foods awhile ago. You are so sweet, knowledgeable and stunning. All the best ☺️

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Cristina Horning thank you so much for your sweet comment and coming to my talk at Community! I hope to be back in 2020. Wishing you joyous health 💖🙏🏻

@sammiesmith6690 4 года назад

Looks good.

@beautifuldreamer3991 5 лет назад

I can't wait to try this!! Vegan cheese is so expensive

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

It is! Hope you loved it! Sorry I just realized I didn't respond to this comment.

@vincent6875 4 года назад

its less expensive than most cow cheeses...but yeah doing it your self is even better ;)

@oliviaonyi5139 4 года назад

@@vincent6875 please what is the name of the cheese?

@vincent6875 4 года назад

@@oliviaonyi5139 i dont know if it has a name,its cashew that you ferment 2-3 weeks with nutritional yeast and vegan cheese baterias that you put in a cheese cloath et voila,you can add salt and flavors to your liking before all that

@oliviaonyi5139 4 года назад

@@vincent6875 yes I know, there something in the contain she add last just want to know the name

@purplefish0947 3 года назад

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

@mimiashford5544 5 лет назад

GREAT tip about using the sauerkraut juice! Thanks! I also use Sea Moss to help with stretch.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Great!

@AAHomeGardening 2 года назад

Mimi Ashford, thanks for this Didn't realised I could use Sea Moss

@WildflowerChristian 5 лет назад

Looks delicious! I love cashews... they are a staple food in my daily diet! I definitely want to make this! Thank you.. many many blessings to you! Heidi Lynn...

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

WildflowerChristian thanks Heidi! ❤️

@ragcage 4 года назад

I am making this tomorrow and using a piece of store bought fresh cultured Cashew cheese as a starter.

@dasaadz 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing this. I have just made it and wrapped it in some chux cloth. 😄put in my oven which is cooling down post cooking so the warm environment should give it a kick-start 😍

@sharonbella3359 5 лет назад

I've made this without the fermenting process but this looks yummy and love the "gut health" appeal!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Sharon Bella hope you try it!!

@seattlejayde 4 года назад

Thank you this was great

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

You're welcome!

@scrane5500 6 месяцев назад

Going to try this with some oat milk as I have a family history of Cancer and need to avoid the estrogen and BLV in dairy. Thanks for sharing

@andreattard333 5 лет назад

I like this recipe a lot. I substituted garlic with garlic powder and chives. And vinegar with lemon.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Sounds delicious!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Hey everyone! Here's the full recipe if you want decide you want to make it: www.joyoushealth.com/27245-blog-homemade-creamy-cashew-cheese Be warned, IT STINKS when it's fermenting! But it's DELICIOUS and amazing for gut health.

@KandiceVlogs 5 лет назад

Yummm 🙌🏻 I can’t wait to make this 😍

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Awesome! Let me know how it turns out. It gets STINKY! haha

@latapagare3868 3 года назад

Thank you 🙏

@irissousa592 4 года назад

I wanna try this weekend ^^

@Hopeinformer 2 года назад

I still come back to this every time I want really good cheese that doesn't cost an arm & a leg. Thank you for a great tutorial. I find that if I make cashew milk and strain the cashews in a nut milk bag it's much easier to get a smooth texture. My blender doesn't come with a tamper. Although its probably a softer cheese.

@joyoushealth 2 года назад

I'm so happy to hear that you love this cheese!

@patogden856 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the post . I tried it , but as I can’t eat raw cashews because of the lectins I decided to try it with roasted unsalted cashews . It was so delicious . Godbless you xxp

@juliedesnick7401 4 года назад

I had no problem making my cashews very creamy in a regular blender. You get different tastes depending on what you use to ferment it with. I've heard the best is rejuvelac.

@tylerpaterson7744 4 года назад

Looks amazing been vegan for almost 3 months now

@nevermore4633 4 года назад

keep at it !

@msmit612 5 лет назад

I’m so excited to try this, thanks for the awesome video! Would love to trick my fam into enjoying some vegan cheese 😁👍🏼

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

I bet you could. Most people cannot tell the difference with this cheese. The key is to blend the cashews really really well!

@tammiehammett5054 3 года назад

I'm glad she explained about non-fortified nutritional yeast. I love nutritional yeast but if I eat more than a tablespoon a day I won't even sleep that night because of all the vitamin B! I didn't realize they were adding it so I just went on Amazon and bought a non fortified version. My husband absolutely loves when I make a cashew cheese. It's amazing!

@joyoushealth 3 года назад

It really adds to the flavor of the cashew cheese doesn’t it?! 😊

@azan8169 5 лет назад

Owh, Joy.... This is genius, thank you for this recipe.. . I love cheese but the ordinary cheese just make me bloated... Will give it a try soon 😉👍

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Me too, well, cow's milk cheese. I'm okay with goat or sheep, but it's just really nice to have a non-dairy option. Hope you love it!

@littlestlove 5 лет назад

Wha, wonderfull!!!

@MsCorina222 4 года назад

THANK YOU BLESS

@sunnypepper4777 5 лет назад

Thank you

@Revolutioninja2.0 2 года назад

I love you. happy Mother’s Day!

@joyoushealth 2 года назад

Thank you!

@tabitham92 5 лет назад

💜I used to food processor and it turned out amazing💜

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Glad to hear it! Enjoy!

@oud2191 5 лет назад

Glad it works with a food processor! I don’t use a blender. Can’t wait to try it!

@joycebussey6865 4 года назад

Where did get your cheese bag?

@tabitham92 4 года назад

Joyce Bussey i bought the cheese bag off of amazon. :)

@muffin1224 4 года назад

I have made this three times! Love it!

@pieceofheavennn9406 4 года назад

Muffin27 what probiotics do you use to ferment the cheese? I need to find some

@muffin1224 4 года назад

Pieceofheavennn I use Pure Encapsulation Probiotic 5. 10 billion CFU. I just prefer that brand. And it’s dairy free

@pieceofheavennn9406 4 года назад

Muffin27 thank you so much I’m going to purchase. Do you use one capsule or two when making a decent portion of the cheese?

@muffin1224 4 года назад

Pieceofheavennn I use two. I first said one but am using two

@joycebussey6865 4 года назад

Where did you get your cheese bag?

@jamesvoigt7275 12 дней назад

Blenders are really good for liquidy foods. Food processors are excellent for more solid preparations. I would make my life much easier by choosing a food processor for this project.

@helenegosselin8300 4 года назад

Great recipe ! I think I might have made 2 mistakes, please reassure me : #1: I’ve used “ordinary cashews” not the raw type #2: I’ve used the kind of bag they also use to make milk (mine oats) in cotton. It smell so gooood in my oven right now ! I hope I’ll be able to have some without getting sick .... Please tell me I won’t have to start all over. I love your recipes and intend to buy your books next year 😉 Thanks for your help !

@pinkblossom9856 4 года назад

I love how she says "Their is a perfect warm place, but! You have to remember" 🤣that's very good advice for forgetful people like me lol.

@1rmoreynd 10 месяцев назад

GREAT recipe and presentation! Adding Garlic inhibits fermentation because, garlic is an bisulfide antibiotic. Adding garlic after the fermentation allows for faster and more complete action and the flavor benefit. Garlic should extend the shelf life in the frig..

@jamesvoigt7275 12 дней назад

I like your point. On the other hand, I often add garlic to the vegetables I ferment. And then, you can ferment garlic all by itself. I would love to reconcile all this information.

@LittleMissCrista 5 лет назад

Yum!

@SupremeLeader187 5 лет назад

That looks sooooooo good

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

It is! I hope you try it out!

@SupremeLeader187 5 лет назад

Joyous Health I am vegan so I’m trying to get ideas 💡. I know in California there are many vegan restaurants but here in Ohio not so much .

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

@@SupremeLeader187 Even though I'm not personally vegan, I have tons of recipes on my blog and in both my cookbooks that are plant-based and any recipe with eggs can be easily swapped. I have an egg substitution chart that you might find useful for recipes you want to convert: www.joyoushealth.com/3-download-egg-substitution-chart Hope that helps!

@SupremeLeader187 5 лет назад

Joyous Health wow thanks for the help !!!!

@dulcedelacruz338 2 года назад

I love you

@Taubear 4 года назад

Gorgeous. Thanks for your cheesy recipes.

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Mark Taubert haha you’re welcome!

@masonjarsmexico9115 5 лет назад

What interesting topics about the gut microbine

@SelBSinging 4 года назад

I like this because not only are you getting probiotics you’re also getting an amazing cheese

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Lotus yes! 🙌🏻🙌🏻it’s delish!!

@evelynbaron2004 4 года назад

I find that everyone finds working with cashews easier than other nuts; I use the yoghurt setting on my Instant Pot after soaking and let it be a little bit looser because one thing I miss is Tsatsiki with scallions and cucumber, but your demo was the bomb!

@joyoushealth 4 года назад

Thanks so much! Ya cashews are nice and soft to work with although other nuts totally work like almonds, depending how much you can grind them up.

@yvonnemarshall7416 8 месяцев назад

Looks Great Thank you ❤ Yvonne mullion Cornwall England

@jlouutube65 4 года назад

WooHoo...Ontario...my home province!!! By the way...the proper name for a wire mesh strainer is a sieve. Great tutorial! :D

@min1549 2 года назад

where do u live now

@My_Con_necT 7 месяцев назад

Nom nom, Explained very clearly, now it's just up to me to implement it 😋 Thanks for the inspiration, I'll pass if I've succeeded 👋🤪🧀

@brescalofrio1 5 лет назад

I made walnut cheese! its unbelievable!

@MissHappyKate 5 лет назад

Hi, sounds like another must have cheese recipe. 😍 Would you share the recipe/method please, by any chance!

@jenrim 5 лет назад

Last 2 weeks? You're kidding, at my place it's lucky to last 2 days!

@epdlp4506 4 года назад

You are right. I will be lucky if it survives a day. I love cheese specially vegan cheese.

@stephaniegenovese8522 5 месяцев назад

This looks really good and I look forward to trying it. But how will I know when it’s “done” fermenting and time to place in refrigerator?

@CooknFly 4 года назад

beautiful

@alaskahomesteading 5 лет назад

Very cool video.... :) While I am a confirmed carivore, I do eat a non meat items.... I am going to try a few recipes out for this coming winter.... snow storms are good cookin days!!! :)

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

TKA Mtnman glad to hear it!!

@jacksentoomer 4 года назад

Vegaaaaan!!

@brandonlantier 5 лет назад

Cool I will be making some booch cheese soon!

@Mrssohasalama 5 лет назад

I like also to eat cheese with apples, just did that yesterday , same taste :)

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Soha Salama yumminess!

@littlelistproject 5 лет назад

Looks really good! I've been wanting to try cashew cheese, but always thought that it would be too much work. This doesn't look too hard. Hope I can make it before it gets too cold!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

The Whole Happy Life it’s so easy! Hope you try it out 👍🏻😊

@littlelistproject 5 лет назад

@@joyoushealth Will let you know how it goes!

@dannwan8537 3 года назад

@@joyoushealth When cooking you are supposed to have your hair tied up or tied down. This avoids hair getting in the way or in the food. You didn't even pull your hair back Disgusting!

@joyoushealth 3 года назад

Dann Wan oh well, a little protein!

@mahendrakishnani3424 3 года назад

@@joyoushealth Hahahaa

@ParticiaPuddle 5 лет назад

Yummy

@80schunkaymunkay 5 лет назад

Hi Joy! I absolutely love your videos! Learning so much! I love Kombucha and thinking of making my own. Just wondering what your opinion is of Kombucha? Does it improve your gut flora? Thank you!

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Thanks so much Hina! I love kombucha and drink it regularly. It is a fermented food so it absolutely nourishes the gut as long as it's not too high in sugar which isn't great for the microbiome.

@jylynnheads 2 года назад

Look, I've tried this cheese to the letter! And I was soo excited. Here it is day three though, and either im not sure I have cheese yet, or it just tastes awful! And I was sure to fallow the recipe to the letter. I was sooo excited to try this out, as a vegan chef myself. Maybe if you went a little more into depth on what the cheese should look like or taste like when done that would be helpful. I'm hoping what I got isn't the final product.

@joyoushealth 2 года назад

What brand of probiotics did you use? Maybe they were off or funky. It should have a tangy taste and smell like cheese. You can see the texture in my video and if you go to my blog you can see more photos. My only other thought is maybe it’s just not your thing?

@MagpieNews777 5 лет назад

i find leaving my cheese next to a dictionary with some classical music in the background works quite well.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Scottish Independence sounds like you’ll have a well educated cheese

@evelynbaron2004 4 года назад

Why do I feel we should be having an anti-Brexit rally together, forget about the cheese?

@MagpieNews777 4 года назад

@@evelynbaron2004 I wouldn't be joining you. I am pro democracy and pro Brexit.

@Mia7Eyes 4 года назад

@@MagpieNews777 Inhowfar is pro Brexit aligning with pro Democracy? 51% pro Brexit with a horribly low voter participation can't be called democracy. At least it's not very ethical to exclude thousands of people from a society they have lived in for decades. Why am I even writing this comment? It's like crying out "please insult me". Discussing Brexit is like wanting to discuss religion by now. Sorry.

@MagpieNews777 4 года назад

@@Mia7Eyes The EU referendum had the highest ever turnout for any election/referendum in the UK, the second biggest turnout being the Scottish referendum. And I lived and worked abroad for a decade and a half, not once did I think I had a say in how they run their country. People often told me I was considered native, but I would tell them, aye, but at the end of the day when and if things don't work out for me I can always go "home". I was just grateful to be allowed to live, work, love and embrace their culture.

@patriciamcdonald6149 5 лет назад

This looks delicious Joy. I make a cashew and light miso paste cheese this way, with two ingredients it's also good. As well as low room temperature being a reason for longer fermentation time, maybe adding garlic might kill off some of the probiotics, just a thought, possibly add the flavours after it's fermented? I don't bother using a nut milk bag it ferments fine in a bowl or jar, but the bag will help extra liquid drain away. Anyway it really looks yum.

@LeicesterVeggieSue 5 лет назад

I make a similar cheese without the vinegar. I also don't use a nutbag just place the cheese in a small plastic colander with a plate under it. I find you waste so much with the bag trying to scrape it of the sides, I also add chopped chives to it after the ferment.

@beautifuldreamer3991 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing your tips😃🐎🐎🐎🐎

@despinachristakis1485 5 лет назад

Patricia McDonald Can you give us the recipe please?

@patriciamcdonald6149 5 лет назад

@@despinachristakis1485 sorry I just saw your reply! For my taste: I soak 1 cup cashews or sunflower seeds overnight drain and rinse and blend with minimal water, just enough to make a smooth, thin, yoghurt-like paste. Add two tablespoons of white miso paste and mix in thoroughly. Place in a bowl, cover lightly ( just don't tightly seal it, it needs to breathe) leave on kitchen counter for about 8 hours. You'll know it's done when it thickens up. That's all, store in fridge keeps a long time. Make sure all equipment has been very clean, as with all fermentation.

@luv2travel2000 5 лет назад

@@patriciamcdonald6149 Thank you for this recipe! It sounds very easy. 👍😊

@moniquesomers5725 5 лет назад

yummy

@artbaugh3 5 лет назад

Why have I not come across your videos before??? 😎❤️

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

artb3 glad you’re here! 😄

@themysterious-_-3446 Год назад

I wish if you can make a video how to make sauerkraut fermented cabbage.... THANK YOU VERY MUCH

@Roxay05 5 лет назад

Hi there! First time watching your videos and I love them! I've tried making vegan cheese before without success. Where can you get vegan probiotics? I dont want to use sauerkraut juice.

@joyoushealth 5 лет назад

Roxay05 this is the brand I use and it’s vegan: shop.genuinehealth.com/en-ca/advanced-gut-health-probiotic-15-billion-cfu?_ga=2.49958950.1071703973.1550518839-178438426.1453818935

@chantelleasbury3277 5 лет назад

Yum

@idekmarijke2380 4 месяца назад

Thank you very much! I am sure going to try and make this cheese! I was wondering if we can also use "cutting edge cultures" as probiotics? Thank you!🙏

@joyoushealth 4 месяца назад

You're welcome! I don't know that brand.