I ended up putting BMW rims on a LR3, drove thousands of KM, drove some light offroads, and didnt have a problem :) Now considering some 162's for my LR4! loved the offset and a cheap way to get 18" rims for the LR.
@Far Reach Engineering Thank you for figuring this out, Great work! I have a white 2008 HSE that has the lame 19s, I am about to pull the trigger on the 162s. I have the option to get four rear 162, do you see any issue with putting rear 162 on the front of the LR3? I put a 1.5" johnson rod lift on my LR3, do you see any issue putting the 275/65/r18 tire with the 1.5" or do I need to get the 2" or 2.5"? Also just wanted to know how they were working a couple years later, any updates??
Staggered rims. Squared rubber. the offset difference worked good front to back, and on the scale of the rover, using the same section rubber all the way around gave an even look.
Thanks for the video. Great support. I have question about 162 BMW rims offset (ET in Europe) - I think there is different one for front and rear axle, isn't it? Does it matter for LR3 quality of driving or for tyres lifetime?
Adam, thanks for the positive comment and the astute question. You are correct, 162 wheels are a staggered fitment. The back is not only a different offset, but front to back the wheels are actually different widths. The short answer is no, it doesn't really matter to the LR3. The tires I am running are "square". By that I mean they are all the same width. So while the rims are staggered the actual tire pattern when put on the LR3 is not. The sidewalls on offroad tires are very large so when it comes down to it the only difference are cosmetic. And to me I think the cosmetic outcome is nice, with no drawback on the tires.
Long term have you noticed any issues using staggered fitment? I have found same wheels. I am wondering if this will work with my L322 as an off-road/winter setup.
Far Reach Engineering thanks for your help. I’ll be looking at a 2006 LR3 V8 SE this weekend. It’s got 158k on the clock for $4k. Possibly just make that an off-road driver.
The 162s are doing well. They have performed flawlessly in their first half year of use. both in the heat of summer (100F+) and in the freezing snowfalls (22F). And that includes camping and towing my boats around as well. Additionally, numerically I agree with your initial point of consideration. That being the LR3 is definitely a heavier vehicle than the BMW E90. Now as for wheel rating - you pose an interesting question - If you can point me to a specific numeric on the 162s I would find that interesting but I can only come up with axle ratings, but we can use that because the way the Minimum wheel rating allowed is calculated it is based upon a split of the axle weight. Now if we take the E90 front axle rating (not the weight of the car but the front axle load rating) of 3790 lbs split per wheel it would mean the 162 wheels would have an individual minimum allowable rating of 1,895 lbs each. With that in mind the LR3 has a curb weight of about 5,700 lbs which if we split by four as a rough estimate would mean it should have wheels rated at 1,425 lbs each. So by minimums, the required designed minimums of BMW exceed the real world use levels of the LR3. So while I would point out there is a design limit difference between the two, but they overlap, and in real world use including towing and on road and off road, there has been no issue. The reason for this is 1. its still within limits and 2. all the numbers above are minimums referenced, but neither BMW nor Land Rover actually build to minimums. They build to higher standards. A win to both.
@@FarReachFR Thank you! Today I will buy them. Here in Bulgaria I can find them for 220$ (set of 4 wheels) I think to use the same rim width оn both axles
@@FarReachFR You have done well here. I have been trying to find the wheel rating for a few hours now and can't seem to find it anywhere. I think you have put something good together. I am going to really consider this as an option.
Hi Ed, Wow. Its funny how I think it is normal to put BMW rims on a Land Rover, but you just blew my mind trying to think the other way around. LR wheels on a BMW! I just cant handle it. :) 😀 --- I will keep my eyes open, but I personally am not aware of any. (Also please keep in mind I dont have a X3 but I am assuming they use the stud type fastener like my other BMWs and not nuts. so you would need to find a stud that had the really wide LR base, and I am just assuming that is really rare. Perhaps someone else will post some guidance here as well. In any case, I wish you luck.
Try the lug nuts for a wheel stud conversation kit for a BMW e53 X5, BMW e83 X3 or a BMW e65, e66 7 series . To my knowledge all BMW wheels a 60 degree conical seat for the lug bolts. The e53 X5, e83 X3 and e65, e66 lug bolts are the only BMW with m14x1.5 with a 60 degree conical seat. The other BMW use m12x1.5 and the newer ones use m14x1.25. The aftermarket stud conversion kit for these vehicle uses m14x1.5 lug nuts. In theory the lug nuts from these kits should fit the m14x1.5 LR3 stud and the 60 degree conical BMW wheel.
Is your LR3 still on air? Thinking about purchasing one that has already been converted but I do like how you can get a lift / lower the vehicle so easily on the airbags
Yes still on air. The adjustability and plush ride are major pluses for it. (potential leaks and reliance on electronics are the biggest votes against it.) If you still have your stock air in and working well, I would certainly go the Air route first (it is also inexpensive).
Chrome: www.amazon.com/Mastiff-M14x1-5-Conical-Plating-One-Piece/dp/B07X1TQX99/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=14x1.5+thread+35mm+1.38%22&qid=1599840182&sr=8-2 There is also a black option here: www.amazon.com/GAsupply-14x1-5-Closed-Conical-Cadillac/dp/B089D9JZ4Z/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=14x1.5+thread+35mm+1.38%22&qid=1599840182&sr=8-1
Here is a link to the bolts I purchased. Funny is that when bolting BMW to Land Rover, I used GM lugs. 14x1.5x35 www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076LXW81C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Hi. I am trying now to fit BMW rims to my LR4. This only question I have and it looks the same on yours. Are you getting enough turns on the lug nut to safely secure the wheel on? I can only get about 4 and a half full turns.
I used an entirely different set of lugs. And on the ones I selected, yes there is sufficient thread. They have been thousand plus miles on road and many rugged of road miles as well.
What are you risking? 🤦♂️ The Land Rover rims (for example from Cromodora, IT) have a load rating from 940 kg! The load rating from your BMW rims is 670 kg! Are you sure it's worth to risk your life? And others life to?
@@FarReachFR Gotcha. I just ordered a set of those same wheels, new lug nuts and the johnson rods! Can't wait to get em on. Is there anything special I need to tell my tire guys to get this setup? I know they're staggered rims, so do I need different sized tires? You mentioned in another comment that they are squared but I'm not sure what that means. Do I need spacers? Thanks so much! I love the look you built!
@@chaseblossom1263 Good luck in the upgrades! As for spacers, I did not use any. As for Squared by that I mean that all 4 tires are the same. The rims are staggered, but the rubber on them is identical. Hope that info helps.
This is absolutely wrong, and shows me how the OP lacks a total understanding of why the Land Rover lug nuts are designed and engineered that way. They are designed to fit through the wheel holes, so that the wheel gets properly centered on the hub, and rides on the lug nut itself. The lug nut IS NOT designed to JUST hold the wheel against the hub.
8 whole minutes of pure waffle. It took you almost the entire video to say what it was - you could’ve made a video as short as a VINE to show how. Absolute waster. 8:00 minutes everyone. That’s what you’re looking for. Those 5-10 seconds then you can turn it off.