Is this the most complicated brake light switch ever? Land Rover Discovery 3

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How complicated is a brake light switch? You think it´s a normally-open contact like in a VW bug? No it´s not. The brake light switch in a Land Rover Discovery 3 is a little engineering wonder. ,
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@caryknapton7233 3 года назад

That design is genius for interlock of safe operation and set up, German Engineers would be impressed with that Ford design! Love your explanations Christian keep the videos coming

@rikkiesix 3 года назад

You never waiste our time. We love your channel. I'm always excited when i see you uploaded a new video

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Thanks, that is so great to hear. 👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@VaderWhoop 3 года назад

*waste* 😘

@stevenmoran4060 3 года назад

You never waste our time with your video’s

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Thanks!

@TR4zest 8 дней назад

Probably worth carrying this switch with you in the car. It has huge implications if it fails and it is so easy to replace. I am impressed that the switch is designed to compensate for manufacturing variations and for incorrect installation.

@Vera_and_Christian 8 дней назад

We have one, next to many other spare parts, all the time in our car. We have a video on all the spare parts and tools we carry.👍👌🙋‍♀️

@martinbradshaw692 3 года назад

I changed my switch last year. I don't know why I did, it just seemed to be the right thing to do. I am so glad I did it before I saw this video! 😥

@davidmscott4409 3 года назад

More complicated video! Haha. Man I’m glad you made this channel always look forward to a new video as an LR3 owner as well.

@sergiopineiro7491 3 года назад

FORD has a wonderful engineering office in Cologne - It was surely designed there.

@algprt 3 года назад

Another great video! Thanks a lot. Many owners had huge problems with this switch. Good to know as see how it works inside.

@Landybandy1 3 года назад

Yet again another very interesting topic by Christian. A really good idea by the way, the extension for the diagnostics port. I will be doing this to mine. The existing port is in such an awkward place to get too. Nice to see Vera keeping fit & well.

@rangie944 3 года назад

Makes me feel better knowing I am not on my own pulling things apart. I replaced the headlight leveling motors and couldn't resist pulling apart to see how it worked. Making an interesting video about that is a skill set I do not have. Thanks for posting

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

I think nobody ever took the leveling motor apart. You must be the first man who ever did that 👍

@rrshse6704 3 года назад

Hi Christian, that was a great instructional video, I just ordered that very same part from Land Rover, and will be installing it next week. Thank you so much! :)

@bugjuicer 3 года назад

Haha gold! That's clever! Hope someone got a bonus for figuring that out

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Maybe I should have gone mountain biking with Vera instead. 🤔

@RAINMEISTERRS4 3 года назад

Superbly complicated!! Perfect!! 👍

@gerdacoonan7250 3 года назад

. . . . . and with a cameo appearance . . . Vera !!!!. Very interesting thanks Christian, . . . about Heuneberg !!, oh !, and the brake switch was interesting too !!!! :-)). Cheers and stay safe.

@lesliethompson1546 3 года назад

Nice job well explained

@danhayes3546 3 года назад

I like the ob2 extension 👌👌

@arekguinness2342 3 года назад

Thanks to you, I found out again something very interesting about my car. Thanks Christian 👍❤

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Good I am glad. And it is for sure something you will be using every day from now on 😂

@overlandi5056 3 года назад

Hi Christian, A complicated video? Ha ha, yes a little, but fun to watch. The brake pedal switched of the D3's and D4's eventually become a a problem to all users. As you advise, very easy to replace, but JLR prices are insane for what is, a Ford switch. Purchasing the same item from Ford as opposed to JLR benefits the purchaser because of the significant difference in cost. They use the same switch in the Ford Focus. I've learnt to always keep a spare in the boot of the car. Once again, a great video and "educational" as well.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤓🤓🤓🤓

@andrewhope3405 3 года назад

Another great video keep up the great work!

@John_O_Maoilearca 3 месяца назад

Thanks for this very useful video. This is the same switch as in the 2010-2019 Jaguar XJ. Mine went faulty and started leaving the brake lights on while driving on Dutch motorways: this did not please other drivers at all! But it was only €300 for the Jaguar dealership in Utrecht to replace it. 😢

@allunread1358 11 месяцев назад

Excellent video, thank you from a UK fan

@bane8593 3 года назад

Very informative video once again, ive been resarching and that little switch can cause a world off issues like abs air bag light traction control so reassuring knowing its such a simple fix. and quite complex in its design,

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Yes, I got a HDC problem myself and this is why I messed with the switch.

@danmurphy6541 3 года назад

Great stuff as usual

@johnbowling6618 3 года назад

Yes very interesting. Thank you Christian.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

You are welcome.

@DiscoGruffalo 3 года назад

Very interesting. I have taken that switch apart before, but only to clean the contacts. I never knew about the auto adjustment mechanism.

@s3hooligan 10 месяцев назад

Thank you for sharing….this helped me easily replace my switch

@drewbale 3 года назад

I rest my case (previous comment on last video) so now I am waiting for you to strip the gear box down 😂 I recon you will soon be a fully fledged Land Rover man as we all have to strip our cars down to the last bolt at least once in our lifetime

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Don't say that 🤣, he is just waiting for the clutch to fail. But I am still traumatized from when we had the gearbox out on my Freelander. 👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@johnhammond9174 3 года назад

I replaced mine last year the part £10 and 2 minutes job done Nice video see you next week 😁🇬🇧👍

@AllenManor 3 года назад

Vera saved the video -- again!

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Lol. That’s what I thought too.

@rogerjeck9281 2 года назад

golf clap Christian!! awesome vid...

@dougwernham5209 3 года назад

Excellent very interesting video

@adamking6419 2 года назад

Mark 4 golf German design. Keep up the good work guys

@nicolasdakota103 2 года назад

Thank you

@joseignaciogarciaperez6412 3 года назад

Good Work .... Vera is very nice. Sorry for my english. Im spanish

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Thanks.

@WaldosWorld 3 года назад

Nice explanation! I hope things are going well sorting out your ABS issue 👍

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Hello Waldo, thanks. No success so far. Still working on it. Talk to you soon. Christian

@markwhitton8785 4 месяца назад

Hilariously, unplugging / plugging switch back in cleared my long running HDC / transmission / lowered suspension / limp mode error. Initially replaced blown brake light globes x2, which momentarily resolved the error (~24 hours), then re-appeared with extra vengeance "park brake" fault. Not sure (yet) if switch actually faulty (genuine, only 4 years old), or just needed some encouragement. Maybe prudent to hold spare onboard in case.

@naturemixmv7667 3 года назад

Christian, here's an English word that you may not know, but you should: "esoteric". It means "intended for or likely to be understood by only a small number of people with a specialized knowledge or interest". I'll use it in a sentence: Even though this video is extremely esoteric, it's still fun to watch. But I wish Vera took a picture of the wild boar blood puddle. That would have been less esoteric.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Oh, wow did not know this. Thanks. I saw the blood stain too when I was out biking. Should have taken a picture...

@andicog 3 года назад

"Making one component complicated allows you to make another component cheap" yep, thats Land Rover, good switch, rest of the car cheap . Having said that, when I worked for Peugeot they made a massive fuss about how much the then new 605 had cost to develop, it turned out that Mercedes spent the same developing the S class back axle ..... Keep up the great vids.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

👍 Thanks, we know excactly what you mean. Christian works in the automotive supplier industry. 🙋‍♀️ Vera

@bbullett45 Год назад

I am not sure about LR stability system jet, but on BMW brake light switch also measures the speed of how quickly you press the bralke pedal. And if it quicker than set in ECU it means you are in emergency situation and activates brake assist mode - it runs ABS pump to rise and keep pressure in brake system

@philiqp3 Год назад

Just looked at your video again before I dismount mine ! Hopefully I'll not destroy it ...

@Vera_and_Christian Год назад

👍😃🙋‍♀️Vera

@5591408 3 года назад

Another great video, you must be quite an anomaly in Germany, owning a Land Rover and having such a great sense of humour, you must have some English blood in your ancestry 😀 but I am British and drive a Benz so I guess it works both ways 😄 It does seem overly complicated, most likely designed by a German Engineer 🤫 Joking apart, another great video, look forward to them even though I don't have a Land-rover

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Yes, I am sure I do 👍. The Land Rovers we have changed our life a lot. We will never be without a Land Rover we hope.

@neilfrancis3013 3 года назад

Hi christen I think you do a very good job on your discovery I have watched all your videos . I look forward to seeing you and the better half the wife I mean lol on the next one from the UK ...

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

😃👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@peternash6206 3 года назад

My fingers have nearly healed after replacing the fuel/water sensor so I am looking at another finger torture project such as replacing the EGR valve - have you looked at this challenge and if so can you guarantee my fingers will hurt. Great videos and thanks for posting them.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

We did the EGR Valves as soon as we got the car in 2016. But since so many viewers are asking, we are considering doing a video about them. Maybe Fabian's Disco needs new EGR Valves 🤔. 👍😃🙋‍♀️ Vera

@peternash6206 3 года назад

If you do - it will be great. I do not want my fingers to completely heal! Good luck everybody.

@SAMOS-ts5vy 9 месяцев назад

Bro literally just kept me from seeing a therapist 😂. respect

@josephp5058 3 года назад

Mechanamism? Smile please Christian, lm only joking your English is a credit

@karenmangkennedy7495 Год назад

Hilarious!!! 😂😂😂love it and very informative. Unfortunately, when I went to change the bulb, I have this large piece of Styrofoam stuck in there, which is immovable and I can’t access the brake light switch myself. 😮 I haven’t been able to figure out how to get that out to access the brake light switch. 🤷‍♀️

@ian_s7481 2 года назад

Vera… If you go for bike rides in the future please take all the cameras with you. 😂😂😂😂😂🤪🤪🤪

@Vera_and_Christian 2 года назад

😅 I actually have that on video when I saw the wild boar, but only from my Iphone camera. 👍🙋‍♀️ Vera

@Nigel-nar53 3 года назад

Your still bonkers but it was still fun. 👍

@MrSidestick72 3 года назад

better than a "bridge match" :-)))

@daz.j 3 года назад

being a large man i struggled to get under there when i did mine ... ended up taking the seat out lol and the auto one adjusts the fuel down when breaking

@GregsStoneYard 2 года назад

If you are having problems reinstalling, or you can not shift your auto transmission from park (first try only) into drive then receive warning messages, the switch is not installed correctly. For whatever reason I could not seat it correctly when accessing it like shown in this video (I tried over and over). I had to remove the lower panel and get my hand in that way to seat it, went in first try. I managed to make something so simple more complicated.

@Vera_and_Christian 2 года назад

The switch needs to be reset mechanically or „armed“. I had a problem with this too and actually broke it. Then I had to get a new one. Christian

@stephencresswell4760 3 года назад

If you own a Land Rover for a few years you get good at changing these. They fail pretty regularly and start throwing up loads of random warning lights.

@FatisForsyth 3 месяца назад

😂😅 thank you German. Wery good! 👌🏽👍🏼

@MrXyzasdf 2 года назад

Trust me manufacturers never do anything that doesn't benefit themselves first. This is simply a self-compensation brake pedal switch, rather than relying on good manufacturing tolerances and or processes they made this self-compensation switch to be install during manufacturing to be faster and more profitable.

@algprt 3 года назад

Christian, any chance I can have the link where you bought your OBD extension? It fit perfectly there. And I have the same iCarSoft ;-) Thanks a lot.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Look here www.amazon.de/gp/product/B074Z4GGM5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1🙋‍♀️ Vera

@pipgt Год назад

Could the brake light switch failure cause a automatic keyless discovery 5 not to turn over when all ignition lights are on

@hennerschmidt5964 3 года назад

Perhaps, it is part of the strategy: Customers shouldn't have the choice between DIY and the next visit at the LR shop. 😃

@nicolasdakota3446 2 года назад

This switch has brake and ABS control to

@TheMzx124 3 года назад

My LR4 had the switch plunger travel set up to like 1mm before the brake lights were triggered,. I tried to get the LR Dealership to adjust the plunger travel to be just a little longer and I was told it could not be done. They suggested that the entire switch be replaced but with a caveat that the new switch was not guaranteed to have different plunger travel distance. I declined...

@drinternatg6391 3 года назад

What is the knob on the other side of the panel from the cigar lighter?

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

That is only a power supply for the camera. 🙋‍♀️ Vera

@Nw46784 Год назад

My top one works but tail light break lights don’t work. Would that still be the switch????

@equaliser2265 3 года назад

I sent this to my wife, she doesn't ask to know what I'm watching anymore.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

😅👍🙋‍♀️Vera

@AlpinestarsR6 2 года назад

Can this cause random limp modes?

@jayhaaseth8801 3 года назад

Wow now I know why RFAL so damn complicated.

@jamesb8467 3 года назад

I just did the same repair on our Honda Pilot...but much less complicated.

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

You need to take the switch apart to make it complicated 😂👍. Thanks.

@trevorelgram2108 Год назад

Hi I have a brake light fault on my Discovery 3 we replaced front and back brakes and left side sensor.would this switch be the fault on why the dash board shows the brake light sign model 2010 right hand drive thanks Trev in sunny cape Town south africa

@Vera_and_Christian Год назад

Rather not. The wear sensor will trigger an amber brake light. Better get a code reader. Christian

@TheDefender1968 3 года назад

Very good. I found the background Mercedes funny. :) One question: Do you have Facebook? A hug from Portugal

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Hi Mario, we are both on facebook, look for Vera Muth and Christian Muth. But we are more active one Instagram. 🙋‍♀️ Vera

@jamesray3920 Год назад

Will a bad brake light switch keep you from putting car in gear I just replaced it while ago now now won't go in gear now transmission fault never thought this will keep car stuck in park

@Vera_and_Christian Год назад

I don’t know. You need to resolve the primary fault or the communication between the ECUs will not work. Christian

@jamesray3920 Год назад

@@Vera_and_Christian I read that not being able to shift in gear can be a bad light switch, I let you know when I replace it again, I will admit lr3 is very sensitive Land rover as I am sure they all are , but the transmission is very finicky if service not performed correctly, I am having north texas British install a remanufactured transmission, due to the programming the solenoids in transmission I am very mechanical minded but this transmission out of my experience, vera a very luck and any one else in Germany who has a manual transmission non are here in usa , if transmission not service correctly it will do all kinds of codes , when I first got my lr3 it had codes in transmission saying 5 and 6 gear incorrect ratios, I changed everything new transmission fluid , metal pan new filter new solenoids ran good then ran like 💩 if I continued to drive it over a certain speed it say will not let me drive it at all I quess limp mode , I don't have the time to continued diagnose problems, yes I know shop brake the bank but there no LR TIME near me so shop off it gose it will be very expensive, I keep you posted on my lr3

@EWOverland 3 года назад

What was the reason that you investigate the switch ?

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

HDC faulting on cold morning days. There will be a video soon. Problem is not resolved at this moment.

@EWOverland 3 года назад

@@Vera_and_Christian Thank you what is hdc ? Your videos are incredible, good humor and finally germans speaking english.

@d34nr2k8 3 года назад

@@Vera_and_Christian could be your battery due a change as i had same issue once i changed battery it never showed up again

@d34nr2k8 3 года назад

@@AndyK.1 yup cause the electronics Don’t like the low voltage so thinks its a fault

@Robert-uq3wc 3 года назад

isn't it about time you change the rear and front differential oil? please make it complicated ( there is something about Electronic Diff or something like that - please explain all about the differentials, thank you! )

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

We will do at one point. I change diff oil every 25t km. But it’s hard to make this complicated. It’s just a jungle out there to pick the right oil and amount. 👍

@Jeremandre 2 года назад

I had the fault saying my brake light switch was inoperable along with the usual warning lights . Replaced brake light as suggested and no difference. Car drives fine for 5 minutes then all the faults come back.

@Vera_and_Christian 2 года назад

Please watch our video from yesterday first. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-fy_0ym793-8.html Then you know what to do next. 👍🙋‍♀️Vera

@hanzelbook 3 года назад

Hi! Let me ask you...your LR 3 is diesel engine??

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

Yes, 2.7L with 190 HP and manual transmission.

@hanzelbook 3 года назад

@@Vera_and_Christian thanks a lot! I'm seriously dreaming buying a LR3 diesel but here it's a little expensive have a car like that but you only live once!! Thanks for answer!! Ah one more thing...who answer the comments normally?

@bohicajohnson7203 3 года назад

Seems straight forward to me. Not at all complicated.

@JJ-mg1yx 3 года назад

Just think what this switch does: *brake lights *gear lever latch *disables cruise control *part of activating park brake bedding in *anything else I have not mentioned?

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

😃 You are going to make it into my list : "Things we learned from our viewers"👍 . Take care 🙋‍♀️ Vera

@JJ-mg1yx 3 года назад

@@Vera_and_Christian and things viewers learn from you guys

@theobien5399 3 года назад

Waaaaaaay much more complicated......... like over complicated 😱 you’ve made sure It couldn’t be anymore complicated than this, Hilarious Christan, great explanation: There are no guns in germany, If you have to kill you’re wife you have to run her over 😂 loved it again.....

@Vera_and_Christian 3 года назад

That's what happens when he doesn't wait for me. 😂 🙋‍♀️Vera