How to Make Pro Acoustic Sound Panels for CHEAP

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In this video, Patrick Hall shows how he build 10 home made sound baffles to treat the acoustic reverb in the main Fstoppers photography studio. Using Rockwool insulation, cheap wood from Lowes, and custom fabric from Amazon, these panels not only reduced the reverb and sound reflections in the studio, but they were also built much cheaper than many of the professional sound dampening panels offered online. With inflation causing wood prices and shipping costs to soar, we also wanted to compare the real world cost of building these baffles vs buying premade panels online. At the end of this video, Patrick breaks down the price per square foot of his home made panels vs the price per square foot of professionally made sound treatment panels found through popular audio stores.

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@barryobrien1890 2 года назад

If you have a large format printer, you can print your favorite photos on canvas paper and back it with rock wool. Then you can combine decor with damping. Thanks. Great video. Nice studio

@FStoppers 2 года назад

Yeah I thought about that but most of these panels are installed in places that wouldn't make sense for a photo. Plus the aspect ratio is so wide that you'd have to really find the perfect image. In the end, I thought going classy would be the best option and well, I don't have a large format printer. -P

@CarrieBiggerstaff Год назад

I know someone with a large format printer! I think that’s a great idea!!!!

@ChrisGrant3d 2 года назад

Great breakdown - really helpful to see the process!

@abdurrahmanmoustapha 2 года назад

yes this was helpful actually ! very very helpful ! your carpentry skills are amazing, and I can't believe how you made all this video just by yourself and without forgetting anything to film and mention, hats off

@phynx2006 2 года назад

great video Patrick, very interesting and helpful. Always enjoy DIY projects. 👍😎👍

@JeffBennionPhotography 2 года назад

Great content. I love practical things like this.

@Nickoloadavideos 2 года назад

Patrick appreciate the video content. Mostly a video guy but watch your photography stuff too for a few years as most concepts you all teach overlap each other. Keep up the good work.

@RobWhittlestone 2 года назад

The panels look really good, impressive. 😀👍 I'm missing a reverb time measurement. You could do this by having your phone (or another digital recorder, preferably with omni mic) clap your hands loudly once and measure the reverb - with no sound treatment. Then do this again with panels fitted and import the audio clips into Audacity or a similar sound editor. There you can expand the timeline and measure the reverb for a certain sound intensity drop - eg from 95dB down to 60dB. They should show different times for this attenuation with the panels showing a shorter time. All the best, Rob in Switzerland

@GodfreyMann 2 года назад

With rock wool one should wear a mask and gloves as the fibres can cause severe irritation in some people. For the same reason, the panels need to be sealed all the way around not just to keep the rock wool in place, but also to stop the fibres getting into the air over time.

@Neopulse00 2 года назад

7:30 - That dog is faithful to you Patrick 🐶 I love this video. I see this as a very fun project.

@ericallnight 2 года назад

super helpful!

@kevinbradshaw9209 2 года назад

I've used this product in homes I've built for Partition walls. You have to buy a full bag so your price per/sq ft could be more if you don't build enough to use all your material. Also instead of cutting batts full length down the middle to pressure fit, you could pressure fit your 24" side and stack non-cut edges next to each other. fabric the backside to hold in place. good idea though

@johnm3413 2 года назад

Cheers for this Patrick. I converted my Garage into a Work from home office / Studio and the sound on video calls is terrible. I think home made panels would be the way to go. Had thought about large canvas prints (of some of my photos) but not sure if the canvas would absorb the sound.

@FStoppers 2 года назад

Just make sure they have about 3” of rockwool behind the fabric and you should be good. You can also mount them 2-3 inches off the wall to give better bass absorption. -P

@BKMcKee 2 года назад

My cheapy sound panels I made with very cheap canvas prints I bought from an online discount shop and then hot glued sound proofing foam from Wish onto the back. They work pretty great for costing altogether about $40 bucks each.

@AzaadShaikh 2 года назад

Appreciate such content and it’s good to make videos of others genres too sometimes it brings new audience from different fields too ✌🏻kudos

@FStoppers 2 года назад

Thanks! The goal wasn't necessarily to cross over into other genres but rather to just capture the projects we are working on day by day. Audio is super important for videographers and this project has me thinking of a few other installations I'm going to probably do soon. #PuertoRicoHomesAreAllMadeOfConcrete -P

@AzaadShaikh 2 года назад

@@FStoppers bwahahahahah then they must need of #soundproofingforsure

@ryankane4876 2 года назад

GIK does ones you can have a custom print on the fabric. Always thought that would be a nice look.

@FStoppers 2 года назад

It might make sense for one or two baffles but I don’t think it looks classy having 3-10 prints randomly spaced around. I have some large prints in this room and I want them crisp and well lit with lighting and fabric just doesn’t give that “wow” factor. -P

@DIWHYDOTLIFE 2 года назад

I've found the cheap foam tiles off Amazon work very well for reducing room tone for vocal frequencies. Interesting build tho. 🙌

@janek109 2 года назад

Hey, very good content. I think about bought that kind of panels but maybe I will create one

@Richie5480 2 года назад

Yep they’re warped, they look like the LA freeway, not a straight one in the bunch.

@cordvision 2 года назад

Are you no longer in Puerto Rico?

@FStoppers 2 года назад

We just bought homes in Puerto Rico and are having them renovated. We plan to move back in a few weeks. During the pandemic we renovated the Fstoppers studio back stateside and are trying to get it up and running before we move back home to Puerto Rico. If you remember, our rented house in PR was sold so we had to move out which means we have to build two more studios down there when we move in. Feels like we've been building studio spaces after studio spaces but hopefully we will have more options for filming and producing content. -P

@cordvision 2 года назад

@@FStoppers Thanks for the detailed reply. I was already wondering if you might have thrown in the towel.... I'm myself planing to move to the Caribbean, hence my interest.

@Jonathanlaster20 2 года назад

When will there be another video about This Old Studio video? @fstoppers

@FStoppers 2 года назад

@@Jonathanlaster20 I need to sit down and edit it haha, I just forgot and need to make sure I have all the footage on the network I’m currently on. Maybe next week. -P

@MichaelSeneschal 2 года назад

Dude, I thought your channel stopped uploading. The RU-vid algorithm must have ghosted you or something, I don’t even see your videos in my subscribed tab. What the heck. I’m just going to copy and paste this in the comments of a few of your new videos to tell the algorithm that YES I want to see your videos.

@Gregg0Palmer 2 года назад

If you place the panels 3-4" away from the wall you will gain significantly more bass dampening.

@FStoppers 2 года назад

I’ve read that but I’m not sure I really hear a lot of bass in this space. The biggest thing is the echo in the mid to high frequencies. What will more bass dampening do for what I actually hear? Does it help more for subwoofers? -P

@Gregg0Palmer 2 года назад

@@FStoppers The idea is to dampen the whole spectrum, or as much as possible. However the air gap needs to be no bigger than the thickness of the panels. There is excellent discussion by Acoustics Insider. He has a lot great discussions about studio design for acoustics. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7RvBw1YAjCo.html

@lore88824 2 года назад

@@Gregg0Palmer the air gap isn't going to add that much bass absorption unless the panel thickness goes to at least 6". Some vendors and manufacturers call these panels "bass traps" but that's a scam, these are more broadband absorbers that won't do much in the bass region: bass frequencies are considered sub 100Hz, and to get an absorption coefficient close to 1 to those frequencies you have to change to a different type of absorbing material and construction. With rockwool, augmenting thickness only gets you so much to a point of diminishing returns. If the issues in Patrick's room is just echo and reverb and flutter and they aren't playing music or mixing in there, some heavy curtains would've done the trick as well. Sure those panels will help, but you need many of them to cover at least 60% of the total surface to achieve a proper acoustic treatment, which may not be their goal. I've built many for my studio, but I do music on top of editing video which is of course much more critical in that regard.

@FStoppers 2 года назад

@@lore88824 Hey Lorenzo, check out that video Gregg posted. If those calculators are accurate, it does seem like moving the panels 1:1 distance off the wall based on panel thickness does give you the effect of 2x the panel depth. Not sure if that is accurate in the real world but it couldn't hurt. As for the curtains being enough for echo and reverb, they weren't doing enough and you can hear the echo with them already installed early in this video. I'd say I only covered maybe 20% of the walls with the panels so no where near 60% but they did make a huge difference. I agree though, the more surface area you can cover the better but then you start to have a completely covered room that looks a bit strange. -P

@batsonelectronics 2 года назад

Patrick, Do you have any idea why I can't read any comments left by Fstoppers ? It shows comments are left, but doesn't show them to me. Thanks.

@tb13493 2 года назад

Is that curtain material you used Acoustic Transparent Fabric? Otherwise you're still getting sound reflection off of the fabric.

@FStoppers 2 года назад

I went down this rabbit hole for a while and so many people have different opinions about fabric transparency. I’m not so sure it makes THAT big of a difference but maybe there is some scientific / objective measurement but it wouldn’t be enough for me to notice. This room sounds much much better for our uses now. -P

@tb13493 2 года назад

@@FStoppers Fair enough, you're not building a music recording studio. Ideally that thick insulation you used would get to do the most work if the fabric didn't reflect anything. Generally tighter weaves, smoother, more plasticky fabric will reflect more. The easiest test I can think of is to hang your fabric in front of a speaker and see how it does, as a baseline - normal speaker grill cloth is obviously chosen to have minimal impact on the sound. The other easy improvement is to space your panels off the wall slightly as the air gap between the back and the wall will help as well. Looking forward to the Puerto Rico studio build videos!

@FStoppers 2 года назад

@@tb13493 that all makes sense. I was reading comments in an audiophile forum and a few senior members were saying you should try placing a plastic bag over your speakers and see if you can hear any difference. They were making the argument that you couldn’t and plastic is way more reflective than most fabric. I haven’t done that test but it seems like you could hear a difference but maybe that’s why they were demanding everyone try it haha. -P

@gyoldamnshit 2 года назад

Roll Tide! You from Bama?

@FStoppers 2 года назад

From Enterprise but went to college in Birmingham -P

@gyoldamnshit 2 года назад

@@FStoppers Cool! Im up in Rockledge. Its about an hour north of Birmingham on Sand Mountain.

@MrDvaz 2 года назад

the glue on the end grain is a waste!!!!

@FStoppers 2 года назад

I'm assuming you mean placing glue on the end grain is not desirable but in that case, you'd be wrong. This video is extremely interesting and since I"m not a carpenter by any stretch of the imagination, I thought I'd investigate glue bonds. Turns out the way I glued these joints was the second best option (side to end). End to End (end grain to end grain) being the best but I'm not sure how that would be done unless I cut the wood 45 degrees so all the end grain could touch. Side to side was the worst. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-m7HxBa9WVis.html -P

@muyy1 Год назад

hello, I am building an acoustic panel, i build the wood frame and stuff with rock wool sound insulation. HOWEVER, i use vapor barrier to wrap the whole thing, not the fabric which you use here. AND i find out the panel wont help too much, is it because the vapor barrier wont absorb the sound? it block the sound, which make my acoustic panel useless..And i have to use fabric to wrap. Thank you

@FStoppers Год назад

No, the plastic wrap won't affect the efficiency of your panel. The main thing is the depth of the panel (2-5 inches is best) and the number of panels. So if you have just one or two panels in your room it probably won't make much of a difference. If you can, build a few deeper ones and hide/install them in the corners of your room and then build as many normal 2-3" ones to start to hear the difference. -P