@@willchristianson171 I just finished recording drums, rest of the band has to record their parts on top of that, then mixing, mastering, deciding on a title and when/how to release it. Wayyy to early, my friend. 😀
Should've showed setup, recording some midi, how to adjust sensitivtiy on kit and in daw, how to select midi channels and talked about the quality of the midi translating into the daw i.e. how accurate does the feel you play match the recorded midi. Another vid please.
Ian Martin maybe they have no idea what those things are. It seems to me they’re learning on the fly. What would be more constructive would be to, instead of bitching, explain those topics in your own video. I for one would like more of those things covered in videos as I have little knowledge on the subject.
@@sierratrey I wasn't bitching. I was sincerely, but succinctly, asking for another vid; hence the please. I'm not here to write novels, and they're not going to read them. Also, if you have an electric kit, you should know what these things are, else you've probably just wasted your money.
Totally agree. Andertons is a business, and if they are showcasing a product they should explain what latency is if you are planning to record with your E Drumkit while triggering your VST sounds. I have this drumkit. Pads are incredible but I am experiencing latency when traking live with addictive drums 2. Working on a macbook pro i7, 1T SSD and 16gb ram. There will always be latency...
@@sierratrey So, when the people who have direct access to the vendor and company reps for free support don't show valuable info in their vids, and I ask for valuable content instead, your solution is that I'm a bitch who needs to make his own videos by buying millions of dollars worth of music equipment and demoing it? Your thinking is that I'm not here as a curious potential buyer, but as someone who already has all of the knowledge and is simply bitching about a poor job?
The naivety of these guys is so cringeworthy it's actually endearing. Have they seriously only just learned about drum software? Also, no, already mastered sounding drums are not good at all for recording...
Do you not know what Superior Drummer is? In EZDrummer, yes, the sounds have been processed heavily, but Superior Drummer is just raw samples, giving you the ability to mix it however you like. That being said, the video honestly sounded so bad, they need to set it up properly, and even then, a 400 gbp kit probably isn't advanced enough to make it sound realistic through midi.
If u go into the midi settings and check which is the lowest speed note of every pad when hit and set the speed curve of every pad to begin at that lowest speed note, it will give u even more dynamics. U can also adjust the speed curve however u want.
Fantastic demo. Have just bought this combo 😃 Can’t wait to start playing again. Played for over 20 years but haven’t played in the last 15 years ! Such wonderful RU-vid tuition videos now and super excited 👍Thanks again Andertons
I agree it's amazing the sound you can get out of superior drummer with the cheap electronic kit with USB, but which computer are y'all using for Superior drummer? You will have to add another $1,500 for a Mac or700 for a decent windows-based laptop.
I used to play electric guitar through my high end PC sound card Delta 1010lt and it was great the latency was pretty low. Roughly 10ms with all other channels going. After I stopped playing with plugins and went back to an amp I felt very naked. Like the amp was much more immediate and revealing. I'd argue my timing was affected badly by monitoring on my sound card. I know it's only 10ms and I know I can't really hear that gap but there was a definite difference playing though an amp. It definitely more naked and immediate. I'd imagine that would be catastrophic for a drummer.
I suspect that if Toontrack released a hardware device that you could load maybe two or three of your choice of SD kits onto, that had USB in and maybe four-six outs to allow you to EQ for the venue, they would sell a ton of them. A live drummer doesn't normally need an infinite number of kit combinations for a gig. If they're using an acoustic kit, they have only one kit anyway. However, being able to take a portable electronic kit that fits in the car, doesn't need to be miced up, takes up less space on the stage, doesn't spill onto other mics on the stage, doesn't take an hour to set up, can work in small venues where an acoustic kit isn't practical, is a massive plus. The downside would be the laptop, which I expect would put a lot of people off. It's a relatively fragile device that takes time to boot up, takes up space on the stage, and that can at times do unpredictable things, like kick off a virus scan that slows everything down, like start a Windows update with a reboot at the end etc.
The laptop isn't really an issue. Everything you mentioned as a down side is easily preventable with basic setup. Virus scans and updates can be scheduled to happen at specific times of day. Any computer with an SSD takes only 10 to 15 seconds to boot up. Modern laptops are even faster with NVME drives, often hitting the password screen or desktop in only 2 seconds. As far as durability and portability, I would wonder if it could even be driven on a tablet.
@@metalliclark86 Couldn't be happier, for the money these are a great option, my only gripe is the lack of accessories on the market, I want an extra tom and cymbal but I'll need to buy another brand from what I can see
But that is, because they can't or simply didn't bother to adjust the sensitivity of the pads. I trigger EzDrummer2 via an edrum and that sounds quite nice. A lot of dynamic range. But most likely it will still not sound hundret percent like an acoustic. At least not stand alone. Within a song it is very close.
Aawesome video! I also found out myself just recently, that with e-drums it is all "just software". I, as a beginner (playing the drums for 2 years now), also got a quite cheap e-drum-kit for about 550,- euros. And just recently I wanted to step my game up a bit, by having a better drum module, so I got me the Roland TD-17 plus the ATV aD3 for comparison. And - oh my goodness - did my cheap e-drum-kit sound and FELT better than before! A lot more sensitive to play and everything! Plus, very interesting also: The ATV could resemble this "burrying the beater"-style on the kick, while the Roland couldn't. So, yes, all just software. :-) (Just to mention that: I kept the Roland and sent the ATV back.)
@@MrNickdino Good question. It's now 2 years since that happened. But as far as I remember, it was somehow the extensibility with other sounds, the handling of it, but also the options for learning/training which were better at the Roland. Even though the ATV had better "built-in" sounds already.
9:18 - "350 default kits". That's not what I'm seeing on Superior Drummer's webpage. It says "350+ electronic drum machine sounds," and "7 kits, 25 snares, 16 kicks."
All electronic drums I have tried over the years since the eighties, has been atrocious. I am simply unable to play on them. It is the "feel" of the pads that freaks me out.
Have you played on mesh pads? Pads like the Drumtech Real Feels? They feel just like acoustic heads. I also think it might be less an issue with electronic kits and more an issue with the pads themselves... I have an acoustic-sized conversion with Realfeel heads and it feels exactly like playing acoustic, especially with the metal field cymbals.
@@MrMonero I have a Nitro and when I first bought it it was great for me as a beginner but I'm beginning to want more out of it a couple years later. I don't know anything about the other kit but the Nitro was all I needed when I was first learning.
This may sound like a dumb question to any electronic drummers, but is this possible with Alesis products like the Alesis nitro kit and Alesis turbo kit? Thanks, great vid.
What kind of lag did you experience compared to the electric kit module? All software of this type will experience some lag and depends in part on your laptop / pc. I found i really needed under 4ms.
I am running a Roland TD-17 with EzDrummer2. Depending on the buffer size I can get below 4 ms but I am running on 64 samples and 4.9 ms. Sufficient for me.
@@Wollestar I have a KVX. Installed some paid for kits as well but still not happy with the sound. Maybe superior is worth looking at. Or sell the KV, get an accoustic kit and get some triggers and quiet heads for when I want it quiet. Humm .
@@andrewrichards9042 in my opinion EzDrummer 2 is enough. But if you want to, of course go for SD3. At the Moment there is a Holiday sale over at toontrack for Ezdrummer 2 and also some additional libraries. For me EZD made an enormous difference. The added dynamics are crazy. Plus I have adjusted the sensitivity of the pads. Just sounds amazing in my opinion. I have the kvx as well, but upgraded the 8" toms with the 10" toms from ATV. Very happy with them. Makes the kit a bit bigger and nicer to play. I personally would not sacrifice the benefits of the e drums with ezdrummer for an acoustic kit. The huge variety of kits you can play there is massive plus I cannot play an acoustic in my appartement. Hope, I was able to help
yes you can make your 400 electronic drum kit sound great, you just need to give toontrack a lot of control over you wallet as the software you guys are using (superior drummer 3) is expensive (but then again it is the golden standard), but there is also ezdrummer 3 which can also give your 400 electronic drum kit good sounds for a lot less money than what superior drummer 3 costs, yes you don't get all of the articulation options that superior drummer 3 has but your 400 electronic drum kit will sound much better than with stock sounds and if you just want good sounds to play with without having to dail in everything then ezdrummer 3 is a really good option as well. another thing to take into account is that the core library of superior drummer 3 completely installed takes more than 200 gigabytes of space while ezdrummer costs only 15 gigabyte to completely install
And now, for a total beginner first time player. How would actually setting this up work.. and what would I else need, other than buying and downloading the software. Thats what I really want to know. Switching though Default Profiles I can do on my own for sure.
some of us have a 400 dollar drum kit cause all we can afford is a 400 dollar drum kit you might mention the program your plugging it into costs more then the kit itself
Question, I have my turbo alesis drums connected to ez drummer 2, so how can I set my audio to connect to my presonas to come out of my headrush speakers? Thanks in advance.
Hey guys, I am looking to get SD3 and I have a question about setup. I know you said you can go straight from computer to drums, but I am worried about latency. Should I run the drums through an audio interface and then into the computer? If so, are there any interfaces you'd recommend that don't break the bank?
I went the focusrite route their great, I got the 2i2, personally I'd say get one with 2 inputs Incase you want to record multiple things at once in the future, you never knew, I never would have guessed initially
SDX has a whole mixer setup with mics, rooms and effects. Since they grabbed the Collins preset, and just changed the drums, it retained all the mic and rooms of that preset. So you can go much deeper and really dial in sounds to your need.
Hello... Great explanation there. One question I have is, I am too contemplating to buy the SD3. But my edrums are pretty basic like the one you sported there (with a bit of a more muscle mine is Carlsbro SC D600). So, would I be able to seamlessly use/exploit superior drummer no matter the make or model of my electronic kit? Meaning, be is a top of the line Roland kit or the $750 model, which I'm possessing, would the sounds generated be the same with both these kits when interfaced or setup properly with the SD3 VST? ( here that I'm ruling out the quality difference of the pads which should surely be evident between the kits and the discomfort of smaller pads on the $750 kit). The crux of the question is, would I be able to bring out the similar sounding grooves or licks from the SD3 VST no matter the kit used? (be it a $400 or a $750 like I have or a $4k kit which I dream of). What do u think of positional sensitivity? Is that of any concern brother? Thank you!! You Rock!!
Theoretically the e-drum will just become the trigger. The sound will be now produced not from the drum module but from the PC software. Probably the dynamic may be affected? For example a more responsible snare from a 700$ kit will give you a more dynamic response that the 400$ one but besides that, then it will become a matte whether your drum supports: rim shot and the symbols are single or dual zone, with or without choke function. Which will depend still on the function
Most modules sounds just as bad as they did 20 years ago. You would need to pay lots and lots of money for a module that sounds as good as superior drummer does. The high end Pearl module costs something like 3000 dollars, and then you have to own a high end drumkit that would support all of the technology.
I disagree with that statement ENTIRELY. Modules have come along in leaps and bonds literally year by year. What you get now on a mid priced kit, compared to 20 years ago is absolute chalk and cheese.
I will never understand why E-Kits usually only have 2 cymbals and a hi hat. Less toms more cymbals pls. 4 cymbals and 1 hihat should be standard on all e-kits
Can these SD3 kits be put onto a USB and then plugged into the drum module directly? I ask bc I only have a desktop 1000 miles away from my drums and it doesn’t make sense to have the worlds longest cord going to if, lol. Thanks.
You just plug a USB cable straight into your laptop. I have this kit and connected it yesterday. My Focusrite Scarlett is also plugged in to another USB port and then I've set the e-kit up in Reaper using MT Power Drum Kit 2 (which is free). It all works perfectly with no latency. MT Power Drum only has one basic kit which is why I'm looking at something better like Superior or EZ Drummer....
Hi. I've got a similar and in my opinion better piece of software than superior drummer 3, having listened to and watched reviews and demos of it. So that side is sorted, but I dont know what e drum kit To get. I thought about tourtech... any suggestions?
Better than sd3?!! What’s better than that?! Other than a live kit but even then sd3 is kind of better Cause instead of one kit u got a bunch of kits both ready to use and to piece together yourself
I've got any leases nitro mesh special edition kit and I've noticed that when I change the bass drum the feel of the mallet against the pad feels exactly how it sounds when I turn my pitch way down low as though the head would be super loose it feels loose! When I turn the pitch up on that same number voice you can feel the pad somehow Titan to the tone is this my imagination??? Also with my drum pads if I change the snare to a different snare sound it feels like the sound!???
Looking forward to getting the SD3 but I'm not sure my current laptop would work. I have an Aspire 5. Do you have any suggestions for a laptop that can run SD3 while still playing RU-vid videos or Drumeo lessons with little to no noticeable latency? Great video. You sold me on SD3 just need to make sure I've got everything needed to get the most from this software. Thanks mates!
Please if anyone can help that would be such a help’ just got an e kit for practice when I’m not using my acoustic kit but would love love do this 🤘🥁✌️
I have SD3 it’s incredible.i bought a 3 ply mesh from DrumTec Germany.i have a Mapex armory 6 piece kit that’s going to get an electronic makeover. Next week I’m buying Orchestral percussion SDX. You won’t believe the percussion possible start stacking huge bass drum with taiko drum dash stack all the gongs together after you tune them for level volume your brain will start to melt . Do yourself a favor and watch the walkthrough right now. Turn it up!,,,!!!
