Agree, this system is too difficult to obtain rank 150 and since the majority of players have a real life and can't grind 8 hours a day, something needs to change. A casual players that may only be able to play a few hours a few times a week should be able to reach 150. Nothing turns off new players more than an over grindy game with little award for their time.
The change would realistically have you getting all the level 150 items once, or following the original scoreboard where you obtained one item every rank level once you reached 100.
Agreed! I work two jobs and lack enough time to grind the seasons. That's very disappointing! I only made it to level 67 on the scoreboard and have 475 tickets to spend. Problem is, I bought what I want already. So now I have to waste tickets on items I have NO desire obtaining, while better items are locked behind pages because I didn't reach that level yet. I work. I don't have time to grind like expected.
Agree! I have a demanding full time job and carve out time each day to grind. Reaching level 150 was too much. After all of the buffs I could think of, score boosters, ranking up 10 levels, running Westtek for a solid 4 hours last night, it was pretty disappointing to make it to level 149 and today is reset.
Ya honestly but they’d only put what we all want last perk coins and modules so we could at least spend some but on bullion and crap like that honestly wouldn’t matter at that point unless they brought modules down or perk coins to like 135
Finally someone making an analytic approach on this issue, thank you for this and not just talking angrily and saying nothing. Awesome video, hoping it gets fixed for people who care about season rewards
Rank 142, could have hit 144 but didn't bother doing yesterdays/todays score because why bother I won't hit 150 it's physically impossible it's not like I can grind out level ups to get points as there are none after 100. When I started I didn't use Fallout 1st because I was still deciding on if I could/want to pay a monthly subscription. I did eventually but clearly by then I hampered myself, even if for the last 6 weeks of playing I completed my score 100% everyday.
Cheers! I hope that this will help people avoid running of tickets in the new season, unfortunately you have to be strategic with what you get and when you get it.
Played a lot of different battle passes and "seasons" in games and they are all going or already have a pick what you want system. The 150 page is for the peeps that play every day and wanted something to grind for.
Bethesda customer service is the absolute best if you use the ticket system or file a complaint appropriately they resolve the issue “or acknowledge it if the fix isn’t possible” faster then any other company. I had a problem with the atomic shop taking my atoms I messaged them on a Friday afternoon and it was resolved within 48 hours they’re top tier
The problem with this advice is that nothing makes up for Bethesda's willingness to have inconsistent season lengths and offer no reasonable notice for season endings.
Yea am with you on that there is no date for it anywhere and if you don't look it up you would not even know it was ending on 12th today as it not say that anywhere in game i only found out by vid on RU-vid saying spend all points now as it will end soon and don't have a day to know when it finish only know it soon and might by 12th.
Don't buy first monthly til you reach the page with the items you want. A lot of people buy it and then it runs out before you reach that rank. Just a tip
TIP: to finish Season FASTer ! Each Week DO NOT Complete Weeklys ! ... Each day use your 2 Free Re-rolls on a Weekly to get as many of them EPIC as you can ! At End of Week, you can DO all your Dailys and the Weeklys, (*Bonus if you have a Score Booster this is a good time to do it. PLUS IF you do all your Dailys and weeklys LATE in the day and then get on early the next day, you will still have Booster going for next days as well) TIP2 Seasonal Boosters, Make sure you Unlock them as soon as You have that Tier, So if your 1 level from the next page that has a score booster, do the dailys first till it unlocks, Stop and claim it then Keep working on your Day and or weeks. ... (A Epic Weekly is like 2+ extra Dailys bonus, Use the Season Booster and its like a extra weekly) ... GL Ive been done months with this technique.
I play the game because it’s fun. If I unlock things by playing, great. If not, who cares. They are bonuses. I don’t understand people thinking they are owed seasonal rank bonuses so they need to be easier to reach.
I got to level 166 and used all my extra stamps to buy the perk coins. I just did dailies, weeklies, and re-rolled to Epics everywhere that I could. I did not grind West Tech as I don’t have time. I normally just login do the dailies and log out. I do have fall out first. I probably missed three or four days worth of dailies due to travel, but it’s possible to do it without that much of a grind.
But thats exactly what becomes a burden. I sadly couldn't find xp for ranks and only logged on for the dailys, it quickly turned into a chore vs being rewarded for enjoying the game. It made me sad
I call BS. The math doesn't check out. Rank 1-100 is about 225000 points. Rank 101-166 is 66×3500=231000, which brings you to 456000 scoreboard points. You can earn 28000 per week thru daily and weekly challenges. 456000÷28000 =16.29 weeks of grinding challenges. The season only lasted 78 days (11 weeks). It's clear that you must have ranked up a lot thru XP grind prior to reaching rank 100.
@@justanother240you failed to calculate all the epics you’re rolling on your weekly’s, those plus score boosts add up really quick. You should be trying to roll all of your weekly’s to epics, than use a booster on the day you can complete your 3rd daily, do all epic weekly’s that same day. You’re also not factoring in the score boosters with fallout first, by like the 7th page you can have 1.5x score.
Well you guys have been begging for new players for years to improve the economy. Most new and returning players joined after the show. I got to lvl 149, and it reminded me why I quit this game 4 years ago ✌️ Thankfully Once Human is pretty fun.
early to mid september would be fine, that would be three months or 12 weeks, what i'm hearing is this last season ran more like 9 weeks, if that's true it doesn't matter what you personally expected, most, wouldn't assume it was going to be so short, especially when all these new players have come in, only to get burned by fomo when they couldnt make it past page 8 of the season.
Too be fair, if you're chanel is only a year old then you have done really well for growth. It took me a year just to hit 1k subscribers on my channel. So you are well on you're way
@SequentialGamerFallout cheers. Possibly a silly guesting do you know how many times you can die or how long do you get to reclaim your dropped junk before its gone?
They got clever with this 2nd season, they lessened the rewards per page AND increased the amount of things you need to redeem before you can access the 150 tier. I now have less tickets for 150 then I did last season and I think that was on purpose
what is that weapon - it shoots a few pellets of something, and they explode? lol awesome thanks for anyone who answers . keep up the great vids, thank you for all the info
8:20 nah brother you're quickly making a subscriber out of me by being real, i really appreciate it, i'm the fallout1st to admit that i'm an absolute tool for playing a game i can sht on as hard as i do, with as easy as bethesda make it, its a lot lol. And yes, i still play, but what i don't do though, and have zero time for is A, shying away from that fact like we're not all doing it, or B, brown-nosing any company let alone Beth, i'd much rather 30 ranting youtubers being real about it and openly discussing the phenomenon that is; people playing games that are obviously bad or cashing in in some way than another Mr West Tek acting like he'd suck Beth off for keeping 'repeatables' in.. like who celebrates grind.. that guy. people like that are just taking us all down.
Cheers! I appreciate the kind words. I agree that issues need to be raised and discussed, I'm not suggesting that we self-censor. I'm certainly not going to keep silent, but I'll try and do it in a way that has a chance to influence Bethesda rather than just venting emotions.
i just barely got to rank 100, would have liked to get to 150 to get some perk coins but time ran out, glad i at least got all the items and skins i wanted
We knew for a long time that it will happen in June. I really don´t get the whole drama around it. Everyone not prepared honestly just didn´t pay attention and it´s not like they ended it right at the beginning of June.
How is this season already almost over? Its been up all of 2 weeks, i see alot of misinformation surrounding this on google. People say it started in march, the wiki said June 12th? I have time blindness, but it feels like its only been 2 weeks
yeah even as a veteran player who takes breaks now and then, last season I barely made it to 150 (on the last day) and I was able to level fully 1 1/2 cards from 1 star on some that I haven't used yet
I was stuck at 130 unfortunately I tought last week we would have at least till the end of the month so I tought I would finish 150 but it is what it is 😞
Im with you, 133 or something. 33 levels of grind for nothing, id have given up on the scoreboard at 100 if id known the season was to finish so soon. Wasted all that time doing those challenges grghhh. Wont make that mistake again. Bonus page is a rip off im stopping at 100
@@rod2dodge855 for nothing? I wouldn't say so, the lvl 100 page had some cool items I unlocked you wouldn't have tickets at lvl 100 anyway, so I continued playing exclusively for them, even though I knew I probably wouldn't get to 150.
and now the perk cards and modules are not repeatable purchases at rank 150, but they don't tell you that until you unlock 150, which you can just buy with Atoms now. Was ready to grind it again after learning everything late and missing it by 10 levels. Didn't care about rank 100, was going to save those tickets. Would have bought 150 last season if I could have instead of watching the clock run out after grinding as much as I could. Canceled My F1st instead.
Yeah, that was an unpleasant surprise. They've changed it now but it's difficult not to be somewhat cynical about the fact that it only affected some items and not others.
Has anyone else found certain seasons are a breeze to finish early while others can't even be completed in the same time frame? Maybe it's my play style but it just seems weird. My schedule allows me to only do the dailies on weekdays and play extra hours on the weekend. I always finish the weekly rewards and get a few extra levels just from playing. But like I said, some score boards just can't get finished. Cheers.
How would it work if you buy FO1st for one month within the last two weeks of a season, is that going to also carry into the new season, because while i see the sense in the boosts at the start, i see just as much sense buying Fallout1st at the end of any given season when you know you've ranked up already and know what you're unlocking with utter certainty. Because in ways, anything double locked, the paywall is the last thing that should come down, if its time limited and you then have to rank up, you're running risk, some of us are cashed up enough to run that risk, but most, aren't. I've compared first to the 1500 atom 'season pass', it works out to be 5cents cheaper in Aussie currency (if you're buying your atoms) for way less (no/none) boosts or camp perks. Which means that the season pass is never worth it as best as i can tell.
That's a well known trick actually. I've not done it but others who have confirmed that you could use this to unlock the items from two seasons. That was fine with the old scoreboards, you only had to have FO1st to get the exclusive items. The problem is that the new season system requires tickets. So you'd have to plan for that before hand by getting all the tickets you need for the current season, and then grinding hard when the new season comes to get everything that's behind FO1st. I don't know if you lose access to FO1st items in the season after you stop the subscription though, someone would need to check for that. I recommended spending the 1500 atoms because you can get a lot of atoms via the challenges so no need to spend actual money, but yeah, the subscription may well turn out to be a better alternative if you don't have spare atoms.
I got to 100 and saw that 150 was the next level and gave up. I am a first player (full time job-so hours are limited). if I'm grinding for everything and then get told another 50 levels are needed it is crazy. How about more score boosters rather than script??
Yeah, personally I can't recommend anybody bother with the last bonus page. Especially now that score boosters are gone. IMHO they're just there to give some token rewards to people who end up that high in rank.
I wouldn't worry about the 95 items. If you do like I suggest and spend the atoms to unlock the Fallout 1st benefits for the season then you'll have plenty of items to get. I think that buying consumables is a waste of tickets, but you can unlock consumables if you get to rank 150 and still need some items to access the page.
No bonus page without fallout first, but also not putting fallout first badges on that last page is pretty shifty. but i bet westtek and others will still praise the hell outta Beth, absolute sheep.
The problem with 150 page is the rewards. I have only reached rank 144 and have no regrets, because I don't even want 150 rewards. Already have enough score boosters from previous pages, and frankly, you don't need that many of them. Rerols and banners are too situational, and you get enough perk coins and everything else by simply playing the game.
Yeah, agree on the last bonus page rewards being a bit lackluster. For how hard it is to unlock that page, it's a bit surprising that it's just consumables. The only thing that's IMHO worth getting is the score boosters .. Basically the season system has two major hurdles that require a lot of effort, rank 100 and rank 150. Many people will get to rank 100 and give up after realizing how much the items cost, or they'll get what they want and give up on the rank 150 items.
@@SequentialGamerFallout It would be cool if they added a consumable that permanently increases your stash space by 1 and costs for example 250 tickets. But I guess it is not happening.
@@blackthorn7298 Oh, yeah. There's nothing as precious as stash space. Can't see that happening just because of how hard it would be to track that across 20m characters but anything to increase stash space would be very welcome.
@@SequentialGamerFallout it wouldn't be hard, just save the integer of how many times you get this repeatable on the account, then add stash space from the account information. Basic object oriented programming.
Do these passes last only like 3 or 4 months or is it more of a 6month thing. Just started a month or so ago but made ot to level 89 on this pass before the update
About 3 months, sometimes less, sometimes more. They need to add something like some other games do, make you choose seasons to complete so you always can have previous seasons rewards.
Really wish everyone would watch this. Pull your damn socks up and finish the new season as quickly as you can. Bethesda is not going to play games with you.
I disagree about not purchasing the consumables. They are the cheap and count towards the claim items requirement the same as the expensive ticket items.
If you follow my advice and use atoms to unlock FO1st benefits for the season board then you'll have more than enough items to get. But if your goal is to get the 95 items to unlock the last bonus page then consumables is a cheap way to do it.
I share a similar mindset on that, I think that buying most of the consumables is worth it, on the other hand not all the CAMP items are good, most of them have either no use or are insanely ugly and a big waste of tickets.
I want lvl 1-100 to be open. Then i can just focus on getting what i want and only playing for that time needed to get them. I have zero interest in grinding to unlock pages
That would be ideal. Obviously the season catalogue is designed to keep people playing for longer so unfortunately that's not likely to go away any time soon.
New season system dont feel like reward system but literal job, you get currency that on its own is totally useless, buy things you can use, and you got to spend ton of time to grind XP till rank100, since you lose that, before finishing season even.. I gave up on getting to 150 last season as I just seen it worthless and too far, I got to 120 or so and got nothing for extra effort, back then I would got 20 random small rewards at least
Yeah, unfortunately I can't recommend anybody bothers with the last page with the current system. That's what I tried to communicate with what I said in the video, the system discourages people after rank 100.
@@SequentialGamerFallout this time there are at least atoms, which is at least good thing to get, even if awfully expensive, 10 ranks per 100 atoms, I am sure before on random rewards, you got atoms more often than once in 10 ranks, and even if, you got bunch of smaller rewards on way.. and there is somewhat new content at least to actually enjoy things for while.. Last bonus page should just unlock when you buy same amount of items as all non-premium items are (basically as it is now, just not that retarded 150 rank crap), and then let you buy whatever you want there, or just never changing it to this miserable awful thing, thing is not even anyhow sorted on each page..
I made it to season lvl 69. To be honest I could care less… these grindy season pass bullshit is absolute garbage and shouldn’t exist. Anyone with a life outside of this shit will never finish.
Same i got to 79 and just ticked over to 80 in the pass but gave up trying to get to next page but the stuff in it are not that great anyway only handful of stuff was ok but i was thinking i might finally get to 100 hell at a push 150 on this on till the last min update to end it was a bummer.
The gap between 100 and 150 is beyond ridiculous. Only the most hardcore players without a life has the time or gall to go for it. 110 would be fair. Bethesda keeps on shooting their own foot over and over and over again 😅 Just look at the massive downvoting of Starfield. What tf are they doing!?
Lackluster scoreboard and this one managed to be worse than the last one AND the amount of posters and wall decor is ridiculous no one cares about that They managed to put less utility stuff on it
The best way to give feedback is by not emptying your wallet to support greedy companies like this one. Fallout has been a big part of my life for decades so it really hurts me to say that I hope Bethesda and similar corporations crash and burn. I'm so tired of all the nickel and dime tactics of "gaming" companies, over priced games with too little content, being forced to spend countless hours grinding for crap rewards and meta builds instead of balanced variety. These companies do not listen to the community. The best way to show them is by NOT supporting them with cash. Any game dev that sees mass numbers of players expressing unhappiness over a period of time and ignores it deserves to lose support. Not every player will express themselves in the same way but it all leads to the same outcome - players are unhappy. Being dismissed as whiny and ranting voices in the void is an extremely shit attitude by devs who are trying to avoid the fact that players have legitimate reasons to be unhappy about their game. Things like Steam reviews and community forums exist for a reason - to help give players a voice and show their feelings about games. Let's also not dismiss the fact that a good majority of ticket systems are not even read or handled by humans but instead automated. My experiences with Bethesda's support system has grown increasingly more infuriating over the years. As nice as I am about asking for help with legitimate issues, bugs or issues almost always ends the same by being told "sorry but we can not actually help you with that". Lazy and dismissive after I spent thousands of hours playing the game, purchasing from the shop and paying for 1st.
Agreed they becoming greedy like a company and they going to lose again the players especially if they going to have gta6 next year they will forget about them
Grinded West Tec for first 100 levels, just bought what i needed, then used score boosters to get to level 234 cashed my tickets and bought over 1500 perk points 👍🏻.
Your going to hate this new update then as seen they are nerfing that now don't know how much of a nurf but knowing Bethesda will be pointless to even do after the nurf
