How to modify DeLonghi Dedica KG521 to finer grinder and use container mode with filter holder. 

reason is likely because it is intended to pair this machine with their espresso one…

You are so welcome!

Thanks and welcome

Were did you buy the parts that you replace to upgrade you're grinder?

@@edwardcanlas4232 I went to Bunnings, it's an Australian hardware shop. I did have to drill out the washer to make it fit a little better

Very good, I'm glad you can. And thank you for your advice.

Is the cooper washer came along with the grinder, or we have to buy somewhere else? Thanks

I totally agreed with 1 x 1mm thick and 1 x original! mine is also stuck. they were almost stick each other (because of heat maybe?)

Exactly the same for me. 1 original and 1 copper 1mm ended up being perfect. On grind setting 1 after the modification I have been able to produce fine enough grounds for genuine delicious espresso with a single walled basket.

@@andrewaar how many gramms do you use in the single walled basket for your espresso?

So, how is it going?

@@Rabindranat All good up until now. I may wanted a bit thinner grind, but i want to play safe :P

Thanks for the visit

Can you explain clearly where did you put the 1.2 mm?? What did you doin details, please?

I really need help regarding this.

@@AhmedMahmoud-bn7ut hey mate, look at the video description to get guidance there as well. But basically, I got washer that is 1.2mm in depth and has an inner diameter of 10mm. So long as you have something that is 10mm diameter and not so big outer diameter it should be fine. So, I went to a nearby hardware store. I followed this video exactly, removed the 2 small washers, put 1x of my own and put back only 1 of the small washers out of the 2 from before. I think you should experiment as well. Just be gentle with the machine and remember how it was placed before. Good luck!

@@CA-we6rq Hello there. How often do you use the grinder? And can you tell if it's still working properly till now?

@@goran1215 still working

How thick is the washer? do you have a caliper? could you measure and tell the size of your copper washer?

I just checked the thickness and it's 1mm

Lo hiciste ? Te sirvió bien ?

@@enzomorales941 Hola!, si pero me costo encontrar la pieza que se remplaza en la misma medida que el ocupa en el video, asiq compre un poco mas gruesas y en vez de remplazar las 2 solo puse 1 y deje la otra original y listo. Ojala te resulte! para mi las extracciones mejoraron y ahora puedo ocupar filtros mas profesionales.

May I know the link pls? Thanks

Easier, but be careful, pliers can damage the gears.

What was damaged from using a thicker washer?

I think it’s just the same reason that most passenger cars aren’t tuned to have the most precise ride, it’s a trade off between the different ends of what a consumer will find useful. The loss with this modification is that your coarsest possible grind won’t be as coarse as before. Equally, they could expand the range of this thing, but then you wouldn’t have the same small step sizes and you’d lose precision in adjustment.

Thanks for sharing.🙂

Thank you very much for watching the video. I will try to answer But i'm not good at english 1. Use 2 washers. 2.This washer is the same size as the original, it works. 3.Yes, it's about 1.5mm thick. 4. Should be metal or brass.

@@ArtyHome Thanks for your answer! Will give it a try definitely :D

Did it work with you ?? Please reply as I will give it a try😃

Filed with what?

Yes.

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You can find it in a car part shop. www.ebay.com/itm/SUMP-PLUG-WASHER-ANELLO-SEAL-OIL-DRAIN-FIT-PEUGEOT-407-CITROEN-C3-C5-31340-X2/114228510863?hash=item1a988cc08f:g:2pAAAOSw~HFcMeke

@@ArtyHome ahh! Thank you so much!!

@@ArtyHome Just to let people know this specific washer is too thick and the grinder won't work properly with it

2 washer equal to 1.5mm.

This model may not be a good match for Espresso, but for pour over or moka pot.🙂

@@ArtyHome Thanks for your response. I’m planning to buy a coffee grinder as I already have the Delonghi Dedica. Have you heard about reviews of Smeg grinder or Breville? Not sure what to buy 😢

@@ayahdetera1653 breville is a great home machine,if you really love perfect espresso maybe better to get one with built in grinder and unpressurized filter it will do much better than modification dedica and look much better too

@@eldabasa Hi there, I’m deciding which grinder to get....Sage (or breville) smart grinder pro vs delonghi grinder? Both are similar in price (I’m in the UK). I would think both machines would require some kind of modifications for espresso grind size?

@@yvonnefok163 delonghi not giving very much option for finer grind specially for using With unpressurized basket ,but with some user modification it can grind finer, i use 1zpresso hand manual grinder with it you can find exactly the grind work best with any machine but its manual, i didnt use sage so i cant tell

from eBay.🙂

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I have the same issue 😐

Me too

Did anyone figure this out? Same issue here, need to lock the centre somehow?

@@brendan4663 There's another method where you need to disassemble the whole grinder from the bottom. This is a lot more tedious (and you need a humongous screwdriver), but eventually it worked for me. Even though I seem to have somehow messed up the grind setting ring assembly a bit. It's harder to turn that before, but it still works.

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When using this grinder and putting in the measured amount of beans, you may have to press grind multiple times in order the grind everything out. By using container mode, you can press it once and keep it going for a longer amount of time.

me too....

Maybe close the gap between upper n inner burr...so the burr together becomes close and its grind finer..its just my thoughts,dont know correct or not.

Same problem here :(

If you can't fry because it's too tight You may need to follow this link. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-f7W_PotnMsk.html

Grip deeper with cloth, clockwise

I was able to unscrew the burr very easily using a short length (about 20cm) of PVC drain pipe 32 mm od, 28 mm id. The burr bit into the soft plastic pipe so I was able to get a good grip without using tools. Using the pipe also eliminated the risk of damaging the burr. After removing the burr, I cleaned it using a stiff brush to remove small fragments of PVC.

Thanks, guys, I got it mod finally.

True, i figured out the same

Hi @Ilias, thanks for this tip, Could we chat? I really appreciate some more details about it.. Regards

Hi again @Ilias, you mean using only an extra washer (1.5mm or 0,5mm) between plastic piece and metal thread? or.. using the 2 replacement washer (1.5mm) that the video says + another one (0,5mm or 1,5mm) like previous option? so.. only one vs two replace + another extra.. And finally, the extra one that you says it is of 0,5mm or 1,5mm Thanks again man

@@themidnightlord Hey, you need to put a washer between the shaft and the thread. The washer is no standard size you need to make that by your own. It should fit into the grinder and over the thread but not over the bigger shaft after the thread. I hope you understand what i mean.

@@ilias941 Hi, yeah!! but in total is: a) 2 replacement washer + 1 extra washer b) only 1 extra washer (keeping the 2 originals)?

1.8mm

@@seaneckhart9914 each?

should say i am brewing with a Delonghi ec685

Yes, I modified it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nSAoIWBuljY.html

Will this save me from buying a 'better' grinder. Or should I just spend the money to enjoy better espresso?

Original washer's diameters : Outer : 14mm Inner : 10 mm Thickness : 0.5 mm I prefer 2 x (15mm x 10mm x 0.7 mm) washer. I've been using it with modified washers about 4 month. No problem, no damage and no burr friction. ( I tryed with 2 x 1 mm thickness washers and 0.7 mm + 1.0 mm thickness washers both have burr friction noise. Be careful )

@@UgurSabuncu Can I ask where you found the washers that you are using? It is very tough to find such washers with these specific dimensions! Also, are you using two of the replacement washers? So two .7mm thick washers? or one .5mm and one .7mm? Much appreciated for the measurements

@@Damascus65 In local hardware store. I seach and visit couple of them and finally find it. First i try 1 x 0.5 mm (Original washer ) + 1 x 0.7 mm then i try 2 x 0.7 mm. I get better result with 2 x 0.7 mm and still using these setup with no problem about + 4 month.

@@UgurSabuncu Just an FYI -- I found my solution... What I looked for is "round shims," not washers. Shims are measured by thickness and thus easier to find for specific widths. I used 4 shims that are 15mm OD x 10mm ID x .125mm thickness (in addition to the existing 2 washers that are already on the grinder) and now the grinder is clearly producing a much finer product. The total thickness of the 2 washers + the 4 shims is 1.5mm. I can tell this based on how 14 grams of grinds on the finest setting without the shims look and behave on a piece of white printer paper versus 14 grams of grinds on the finest setting WITH the 4 shims. Those ground with the shims added are clearly much finer and behave like ultrafine sawdust compared to sand. I would also say that under flat white light that the finer grinds look a bit different color wise and are more of a tan brown than a dark brown -- so there is a visual difference that gives me an indicator that they truly are finer, as well. I first tested 5 of the shims (in addition to the existing 2 washers that are already on the grinder) for a thickness of .625mm (shims only) and the grinder would not grind my beans and kept locking up. Therefore, I removed 1 for a thickness of .5mm (shims only). It works perfectly now. Here are the shims I purchased - www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0036R4RO4/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I also wanted shims that were not copper, as copper is a far softer metal and wears faster than stainless. As well, I wanted 304 stainless if I could find it, as it is far stronger and more corrosion resistant (mind you, these are only .125mm thick so I do not want them to wear over time). I do not believe these are 304 stainless, as the Amazon listing and the product bag they came in do not say such. They are listed as 302 I believe, which is just fine and is corrosion and wear resistant. I then brewed a double shot in a bottomless portafilter with the regular grinds. The shot came out messy and the machine was spraying espresso a bit all over the counter. There was not a thick crema. I then brewed a double shot in a bottom portafiler with the finer grinds. The shot was still a tiny bit messy, but less messy compared to the prior double shot and there was a much thicker crema. Admittedly, this difference could have come down to my lack of expertise in leveling, distributing, and tamping the grinds. However, I don't think that is the case and I think that there truly was a better result with the new, presumably finer, grinds.

@@Damascus65 Hi there, so basically the optimal total thickness is 1.5mm? I found this online: www.accu.co.uk/en/shim-washers/62786-HSHN-10-16-0-5-A2?uk_google_shopping=1&c=3&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyZyg_5Xo7wIV0O3tCh3AXguBEAQYASABEgJZIfD_BwE

Как я понимаю, в режиме контейнера он выставляет максимальное количество чашек, но при этом насыпает только одну порцию. Предполагаю, что при этом увеличиваете скорость помола, что как-то влияет на размер помола..? но это не точно😀

В режиме помола в рожок данная кофеварка максимум работает 14 секунд при двойном нажатии на кнопку. Что бы помол был однородный нужно закидывать зерно в уже раскрученные жернова, у автора это заняло 30 секунд, соответственно первый вариант не подходит (конечно если страдать перфекционизмом) поэтому он сделал данный хак и включает / выключает дернова в ручную!

Car part shop ,oil sump washer m10.

@@ArtyHome Thanks, is this the one? www.amazon.com/HIFROM-Copper-Washers-Sealing-Fitting/dp/B078RGFLN8/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=oil+sump+washer+m10&qid=1616039379&sr=8-1 ?

Yes, But you oly use 2-3 pieces.

@@ArtyHome cool, I’ll buy it. Yes I’ll only take 2 PCs. Many thanks! Your video is super!

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