you mean for daily let me destroy your career advice. just go with your guts people and let these so called advisors like erin believe in their own advice as they dont know anything about your specific case. Its all just general random bullshit. you are there in the interview so you know best what the course of action is.
Hey, just wanted to say thank you for giving such great advice! I recently crushed a job interview - got the offer letter the next day - and one of the questions they asked was "what is your expected salary?". I remembered one of your videos which suggested that I ask "what is the typical pay for this position?". If I hadn't asked that question, I would have settled for about 10-15k less than what they would've given me! I start my new job next week. Again, thank you so much!
I was just helping my girlfriend attempt to negotiate her salary for a promotion at her company. We prepped for it using the "Negotiation One Sheet" from Never Split The Difference. It turns out she was being offered the top number and there was no room for that, but they are working on some non-financial things for her. I am currently looking for a new role and found this video very helpful in preparation for my own potential interviews and negotiations. Especially the "what are your salary expectations?" part which is something I always fear could scare the employer away.
Hi Erin! I really want to thank you for your advice! I'm a recent college graduate and I was offered my first job last week. I used your advice for negotiating my salary, and it worked! I was so nervous asking about it, but it was unbelievable that it worked and I ended up getting more than I was initially offered. It felt great standing up for myself. Thank you so much, again!😊
I once used that strategy of not saying a number for a role, and it backfired. I said I wanted to learn more about the role and the recruiter continued on with the process. We get to a point where she offers me the job and says she’ll send me the letter. But we had not talked about a number at all since the first call. I get the letter with 32k as the annual salary.
I usually say that exact thing but immediately follow up with saying “Just curious to know, what’s the allocated budget for this role, so I can know if we are same page”. They usually tell but follow up with, “does that work for you because if it doesn’t I don’t want to waste your time or ours”. If the pay is around my ballpark and know I can negotiate more, I will say, that amount seems fair but again I would like to know more about the responsibilities first.
@Erin has a short about this, too. From my current job, I was talking to a recruiter and he asked my salary expectations, I said something non-committal and asked about the salary range they were offering. He said 90-120k, a good deal higher than I would have said (although about right for my position). Then he got back and said the hiring manager downgraded to 85-90k and *didn't want to waste my time*. 😥 I'm way underpaid at 60k in my current job. 85-90k is also above what I'm expecting for my next promotion.😥 I'm looking up the company now based on the description he sent over so I can apply directly. The work is a little specialty and sounds fun!
If I was in your shoes, if you didn’t accept the offer yet, keep negotiating. All that was is an offer letter. Something important be ready to walk away from what does not serve you. If you wanted more money. Always ask. What does it hurt? This is why you do your research
I literally got a job offer today and came back to this video to negotiate salary and I’m so glad I did. Thank you for telling me to advocate for myself!!!! I did and I got what I asked for!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank for making accessible content like this Erin. After losing my job I was so distraught but I kept watching your videos and it really worked!!!!
This is great advice! I’m using it now to counter 🤞🏽 I was always afraid they would rescind and bc i graduated in ‘09 everyone was just happy to have a job.
I think one great video idea is to do a practice/mock negotiation with a family member/friend of yours that hasn’t done any/has done little wage negotiation before and give them feedback. Thanks for the great videos as always Erin!!
When asked my salary expectations, I turn the question back at them and ask them if their range is, if they say they're not sure, I ask if it aligns with the market value
I think this advice depends on the position and the field you’re in. The customer service job I applied to was bulk hiring and had a default starting wage. I had no experience in that particular position but loads of customer service in my career. I felt like I had no leverage however.
I just negotiated my salary for a job offer and am currently waiting for a final yes/no. I did get an interim response while the hiring manager checks with the company that sounded very promising (essentially if I am willing to commit they will meet me at my counter offer). This is the first time I have ever tried to negotiate salary and I was very nervous, but I went in projecting confidence and respect and I definitely think it made a difference!
Great advice here Erin! And it's fun advice too....negotiations don't have to be painful...unless you're a used car salesperson...ouch! During my last interview/negotiation process...I had left my job months earlier (my choice, not theirs) and as such, the company I was interviewing with knew I did not have current employment. They made an offer of a salary...and I thought about it...and countered. But what? You have NO JOB to counter with? Well true, but I did have over 30 years experience behind me, and my "unemployment" time, was my choice...which means I'm not living paycheck to paycheck...and have some flexibility. Did I get the increase I asked for? No, I didn't, but most times, it does work. If you don't ask, you won't get an increase in the offer. So go ahead and learn how to ask. Keep it not personal and if you don't get the raise...well you still got an offer. And if they say no and you had another offer on the table...maybe they say yes? Decision made. Haha.
Hi Erin! Quick question, is it possible to negotiate salary AFTER being offered the position? Even when you may have already put a number on it. I, apparently, did not make enough research before that first interview. Also, I hope my question was clear. Thank you in advance!
This is super helpful. Thank you! Just one question... How do you negotiate when the offered salary is higher than expected? If they're offering me X, they're probably willing to pay me more, but how do I go about asking for more that when their offer is well above market value already?
I liked parts of Never Split the Difference but honestly is was more fluff than anything else and he tells everyone to say verbatim 'how am I supposed to do that'. The book could have been a great 10min ted talk.
Erin! Thank you so much for helping me navigate this confusing and emotional ride of believing in myself enough to create the career of my dreams. It’s been tempting to give up, to settle, and to ignore my inner calling and then I remember - I GOT THIS!🎉❤
Any advice on a disclosed wide salary range of 74-120? Obviously want the higher end (and have more than enough experience) but afraid of being shut out. I interviewed with the same company a few years ago and lost out for this reason. Why include a range they don’t intend on honoring? 😰
Erin, I just wanted to say thanks! Your videos are always informative, professional, and genuinely helpful, especially during tough job searches. Your positive attitude is a real game-changer. Appreciate it! Really can't thank you enough
How common is it to be told they don't negotiate at all any aspect of the job offer? Is there anything you can do? Every job offer I've gotten since graduating college I've tried to negotiate, first the salary and then other aspects of the offer and each time I've been told they don't negotiate at all and all parts of the offer are firm so the only options are to take it or leave it. This has occurred at completely different companies each time as well. Everyone always says to negotiate though so I've been surprised to be told repeatedly they refuse to negotiate. So it leaves me wondering how normal that is.
I think a good way around it is to look for a job when youre still working that way if they say it's non negotiable you can give a cheeky little smile and say "alright, thank you for your time, i think i will keep my skillset with my current company. Do let me know when you change your mind"
Erin, I'm really surprised that you didn't mention this statement when the question of salary comes up: "Well, what is the budget for this position?" Instead of giving them a salary range and having to be the first to mention money. You throw it back on them to be the first!
Thank you so much for this videos and other reels you provide. I have followed your advice both in emails and over the phone and got an increase of $15000 annually from previous offer. Thank you!
I am going through an absolute garbage salary discussion currently. I meet or exceed ALL of the criteria and experience listed in the job posting. The salary range posted was 30 to 39 an hour. They offer me 30.50 an hour and 2 weeks stay at a hotel. I counter with 36. They counter with 32.50 and an extra week of stay at a hotel since i am moving states to take this job. I counter with 36 (lol) and I am waiting to hear back. Side note, during the interview I asked what a 39 dollar an hour employee looked like and they told me that it would be someone who has worked at the company for many years, not a new employee. He told me that 36 dollars an hour is more than they pay most of their employees while he also bragged to me that many people have been there over a decade. That obviously didn't make me feel any better. On top of this, he was telling me about how expensive it is to live in the state where the job is. Believe it or not, that didn't make me feel better either. Negotiating a salary sucks is the moral of the story.
I allways negotiate hiyer pay all ways even when its a ded end job the only time i did not negotiate was when i was a kid getting my vary first job and the starting pay was only 7.25$ and even then i atleest tried to get more but thay still sed no but it never herts to ask
Question I started a job with an agreed salary, and certain amount of hours required of me to work per week. Slowly I’ve been working well over the 48hrs a week we agreed on, when I spoke to my DM she said yeah but that’s why you can earn bonuses. I explained that bonuses were an incentive for my sales, that was not included in my pay and amount of hours I would put in weekly. Say 48 hrs was what I was to work slowly, now I’m doing almost 70 hours a Week, how would you ask for a raise at this point only being with a company for 8 months.
The Unverifyable Claim that the first Offer has a weaker stance is a Recruiter Trick. The whole Power Dynamic of the recruitment process is having the interviewd negotiate against themselves in their head and prostrate themself in a demeaning ritual because for them it is personal (Where and how do I spend 30+% of my life), for the company "It's just professional". This kind of Advice comes from HR People who either never understood that they are the Wardens of the Camp, or who don't want you to change the game. Because Advice is a longer sell, then actual solutions.
Hi Erin - After two rounds of counter offers, HR let me know that the hiring manager wants to schedule a meeting with me directly...What could be the potential reasons? Is it a bad/ good sign?
NEED ADVICE. The range posted on the job was 50-70k. Phone screen was told the same range again and they asked my range and I said 75-78k, but i don’t want that number to deter them from continuing me as a candidate. I got an interview with the hiring manager she really loved me and kept saying im a perfect fit. Did another 6 seperate interview with the team in 1 day and they all loved me. They took me out to lunch after and the hiring manager restated that “you know the range is 50-70k” and i said yes and she said great i just wanted to make sure you knew. I got a job offer the next day for 70k so top of their range. I want to negotiate 75k but am scared they will recind. Should I? The 75k is based on what other companies have offered and on my market research
@@melissafreed5165 I think that's fine. They told you a couple of times the top of their range is 70k. If that was a real deal-breaker, you should have told them before the 6 separate interviews. Know that you got the top of their range, and probably the best they could do.
Just fyi. You would've lost that job offer. Typically that's the band range for that role that the company has allocated. Most of the time, companies will not budge on that band.
I used to run the office for the Department of Marketing for a local university. Never Split the Difference was their text for a professional sales course.
My salary is in the 90th+ percentile…. I can’t use the market salaries online. So I am pushing the boundaries most of the time. Unfortunately, I am in the situation where I passed all the interviews and they want to hire me. They came back with $70k+ less than what I make now. After falling out of my chair I said that taking a pay cut is not possible. Now HR is going back to the hiring manager about this. No idea what is going to happen.
@@my2winsthey came back with a total cash comp that was higher than my current salary. However the base is lower with a much higher bonus. Also I got stock options for a pre-IPO company.
Hey Erin, i have been binge watching your videos recently. And thank you for your valuable advices! for the first time, i tried negotiating my salary as I know my worth and the market value. I ended up declining that offer, but I gained lots of courage to do so and learned how to communicate thanks to you. 😊
I F-d up! Erin, I didn't counter offer. What do I do now that I'm in this job and I accepted the low end of market rate? PLEASE make a video addressing this for me and the many others in my situation! 🙏 Thanks!
hey Erin, I love your videos, I just wanted to ask, I really like what you do and wanna dedicate to something similar? I've considered organizational psychology, is that what you do?
My job just handed me a second job description….like I’m expected to do two jobs 😂 I said okay, is this a promotion? Or am I getting a raise? They said No. Theeeeennnn went silent 🎉. So now I’m back on the market
Erin, not only have you immensely helped me prepare for interviews, you have also made this process so enjoyable and fun! The references to spongebob and the office in your videos are top tier! Thank you for making me laugh during this process that normally would feel frustrating and nerve wracking! Myself and the hundreds of thousands of people sincerely appreciate you and the content you create for us!
Hi Erin, I had an interview few days ago, they asked what is my salary expectation during the interview and I asked if they had a range or a budget for the role and they said they can't share this with me, the job is in an NGO in the middle east so I told them I don't really know the ranges in the middle east so I can't give you a specific number but I am looking to be fairly compensated? did I do right or should I have given them a specific number even though I don't know how much people get paid there?
The thing that bugs me about most of these skits is that they seemed so disconnected from real life. They seem to always assume that you have leverage or that they don't have 100 other people ready to accept the position. Some jobs have 10 qualified people that they can choose from who all seem like pretty good choices. If you won't accept a lower number, they will. Of course then people say, be willing to walk away. If you already have a job, that sounds good. If it took you forever to get an interview and you've got bills to pay, that's not always feasible. What I would like to see in some of these skits is more push back instead of the person you're dealing with immediately folding. If the person resists and challenges you, then what?
Erin, thanks to your advice i will be starting an awesome new job in a few weeks in my dream industry, and allowing me to finally leave my toxic workplace 🙏 aand on top of that your salary negotiation advice helped me land a +40% 😮 I cant thank you enough for the wonderful content you put out into the world :)
thank you so much for your videos and advice!! I watched your videos all throughout the job process and finally received an offer! I love how you roleplay exactly what you might say in a situation - it's super helpful to see that kind of thing.
Find out what that titled role generally maxs at with all the education and experince, and then use your current experince level and education even if you have more experince and are over qualified and hit them on the higher end always. Never under value yourself. Learn how to talk, its not just about the anaylitics, its also about connecting with most of the people youll interview with. If you have have charisma, added with the experience, and education on top you can start at the max end of those projected salaries with whatever pto and bonus incentives etc. Gotta practice charisma, connecting with people. Ive worked with tons of people who had that spark with people, and they ALWAYS made more. Actually do a great job over your course of stay and hold your positive referrals from past emplyers and skies the limit, but generally wont ever be rich workinh for someone else.
i am expecting to get a job offer tomorrow, and i plan on negotiating, because i will have the same job as my friend who works there, and i have a certification that he doesn't, and i have some job experience.
Thanks, Erin. I love you so much! And I'm so grateful for the fact that you exist, and you're sharing your wisdom, and knowledge with us! Thanks so much! I send a hug from Manizales, Colombia.
@advicewitherin Hi Erin! I am new to your channel. I was wondering if you covered negotiations for a hourly rate versus annual salary? I am interviewing for a part-time role, and they listed an hourly range of $16-2 in the job posting, but I'd really love to get 22+, if possible! Are negotiations for part-time work and hourly rates different than what you detailed in this video? Thanks so much for all of your content, it is so helpful!
Thank you so much for this advice!! Do you have thoughts on whether these conversations should be done in person/on the phone versus over email? My salary offer came in the form of an email but I do have their contact information and could call to discuss this instead if that is better.
Everything in writing, always. Even if they call you first, you always end it with "could you send me an e-mail with the details". Even if they seem like nice and trustworthy people, it's worth keeping in mind employers or hiring managers are not your friends.
Great video! Question when responding to the offer letter, with regards to pay and negotiating for more/ asking for the budget range, should it be verbal or can it be by email? Ty!!
Update, I used your advice and was able to get over a 10% increase from their initial offer. I did call them to discuss the offer rather than sending them an email. Thank you!
Than where? Because if you aren’t from the US, you should keep in mind that what others might lack in salary they make up in social benefits (healthcare, pension, childcare, maternity leave) and cost of living (including cost of food)
@AdviceWithErin can you do a video on how to be successful in an interview with more than one interviewer? Thank you so much for your content! I have an upcoming interview and have be watching your videos and feeling more confident with each view. Thank you.
