How To Never Break A 5.4L 3V Ford Engine Spark Plug Again  

Thats the case on the two valve. The three valve has the opposite problem where they break upon removal.

2V 😏

Over the past year, two have shot out during smog tests

My boss was looking for a truck and not even 100 miles on it during a test drive cylinder 4 straight up blew a plug out

Coming from a jeep guy lmaoooo

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Honestly, dude, you should make a RU-vid channel. Before I'd done a few of these, i watched a ton of different videos to obtain the information you provided in a quick, concise format

Those are good engines once the spark plugs have been replaced. I have one and it runs good.

This was actually very useful and very wholesome! I’m still not going to DIY and take it to a mechanic lol

This is also how I do them and have never broken one.

Sounds like a Cybertruck owner! 😂

Didn’t…. Didn’t you just say it was…. Reliable? 😅

I have a 2008 5.4 F250 with almost 300,000 miles and it runs great. The only problem I'm having with it is the fuel line keeps drain back to the tank and I have to reprime it after its set for several hours.

And...change them out more often than Ford recommends. The engines that had the greatest number of broken sparkplugs were ones that had OE plugs with 200-300,000km(Canada).

Bought my 2005 used in 2009. Ran 5w-30 its whole life, changed it every 3000 miles. The only real problems I had with it were the phenolic pistons arbitrarily hanging up inside the calipers. Just got rid of it last year so had a pretty good run of 14 years. Never left me stranded

@@robertpettit6619 , isn't there supposed to be an anti-drain back valve(s) in fuel injection systems? Idk anything about these engines and I'm not the "Mechanic" but first I expect that the fuel pump/assembly has an anti-drain valve/function of some kind to allow the pump to pressurize fuel up to the point of the regulator, if it didn't the fuel pump would have to run continuously to keep fuel pressurized at the regulator whilst the engine is not yet running but most fuel pumps, run to pressurize then shut off within a few seconds until the engine is started. Of course the regulator also needs a way to route additional fuel back to the tank to prevent over-pressurization so I'm assuming there is a "check valve" in that system as well. So if the fuel regulator and it's check valve are working properly, I'd assume it's some element of the fuel pump assembly allowing fuel to drain back. You said the vehicle has nearly ~300K miles so it's not unreasonable to think that an element of the fuel pump assembly is showing signs of failure. I might would see if I could put a fuel pressure gauge on it to determine what the pressure is, if it's within spec and see how long it can maintain pressure with the key on & pump energized. You said you have to reprime it after it sits for several hours but who knows if after several seconds or several minutes fuel pressure starts slowly dropping which would indicate an obvious problem because the fuel pump and regulator are supposed to maintain pressure at a constant key-on, engine-off. There are only 4 places the fuel can go, 1. into the engine, 2. an opening to the atmosphere such as a fuel leak, 3. through the return line to the tank, 4. draining back into the tank through the fuel pump.

Been replaced several times already

You beat me to it 😂

Nah just go through it properly and you can have a bulletproof engine that's f****** dope as hell

I shit you not I seen a 5.4 in a 03 f250 with a million miles right when he got to a million he put a new motor and trans in it

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@@jacobstacy588 I had over 325,000 on my 04 (original motor and trans) before sum hot roddin bastard ran a red light a t-boned my ass around 50 mph. I promise you it ran stronger then, when it was new.

I get the hot then pour some motor craft fuel injection cleaner in each hole then soak for 20 min then impact. Pretty sure that's what ford tsb says

How do you get the impact in for the rear spark plugs

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How u remove the broken ones

@@glock316 extension and swivels. The key is to get the engine hot first.

Sometimes mechanics don’t have that luxury unfortunately customers don’t listen

I totally agree. Leaving spark plugs in for 100,000 miles is nuts.

Haha was it that much of a POS?

@@kevinftw16 idk my 5.4 has had 0 issues and it’s had a valve tick it’s entire life and has 214k and still doesn’t Burnouts and shit

Honestly once you've done a few they become a really damn easy engine to work on to be completely honest

I just got my second 5.4 for some stupid reason. I have more stress k owing I’m saving this dumb truck again…

@@kevinftw16 I got a buddy with one that has 270k miles on it. I guess it’s how you take care of it.

Im guessing 2 valve?

My service vans E 350 super duty with the 5.4 , I have to admit I decided to use this over both Chevy and dodge ( and im a Chevy guy ) but they could not compare to the fords service vans

Is that the rattle I’m always hearing?

That's probably the timing set. Known issue.​@@mickeyshooter5298

Same here. 2013 navigator. 150k km and runs like a dream

You have had it 19 years and only 123k put on it that's insane I put 101 k miles on my car in the last 3 1/5 years 😮

Insane in the membrane because I have 5 other vehicles that are driven when needed...it keeps miles down on all.

Or just do a straight up F.I. service

I think there was a tsb that says to soak the top od the spark plug with carb cleaner as well

I've changed hundreds or them, and as long as it's hot, they come out just fine with a 3/8 ratchet . I've found mostly Chevy Boys break them

​@@kellykolnes1954what do mean Chevy boys?

​@@kellykolnes1954 lol then you've never delt with a bad one. Rusted af been there awhile can't do nothing about it

What happens if it does fall in the chamber? 😭 because it just happened to me and don't wanna touch it

​@@brianshaggywhat happen did u get problem fix

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Change the oil and you’ll be surprised how far they go despite internet technician comments.

My 09 150 has 149k runs great never had any issues with it. My moms expedition with a 2v 5.4 is pushing 250k and besides replacing spark plugs it’s been a good rig.

The 3.5L duratechs are TRASH.

I have an 01 f150 with the 5.4L triton with 327k miles and still runs like a champ.

04 5.4 with 143K still running great

What's your best method to do that? I haven't had to do this myself.. yet.

Yea that impact is a no no good way to the the threads out with it

Candle wax bruh

No need to do that. Impact works pretty much every time. Been doing it for years.

Pb blast cannot penetrate thru the spark plug crush ring or acorn seal. If so you would loose compression every power stroke and draw air in on intake stroke. It might catch some of the debris from the corroded hole and impact scaling material everywhere

If you wait, it negates the heat soak dummy. And blaster on a hot engine evaporates.

What if you spray it down before you start it up to get hot? Is there any scenario where the PB actually helps?

Exactly!!

Pull the pcm and you can sneak your gun in there

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@@momentumtintdetail use a impact wobble on the end of the extension.

@@oscardiaz8716 I’ll try that next time

It’s a good possibility for random beginners. But I bought died once I realized my lead tech wasn’t joking my first time. He was serious, so I did as he said. It did work but always felt wrong. I was his apprentice way back when, so I did it as he wanted. Just hope ppl don’t use impacts to tighten em.

You’d think this was a troll but no, it works.

This is the only way

i thought the guy i first heard it from was fucking with me too but no, this is a legit way of removing spark plugs from these motors

This is literally the most tried and true way to do these plugs

The hot parts legit

Yeah but were they original plugs, the ones which have issue? Or were they some aftermarket plugs

@mickeyshooter5298 no they were original. The original owner was afraid to change them.

@@thepitpatrol yeah, that’s where I’m at right now. Just bought the truck and it’s throwing misfires. 110k. I have all the maintenance records; plugs have never been changed. I really want to buy the Lisle kit and attempt myself, but I’m still a bit afraid. Sure would save some bucks if I can get it done, though.

@mickeyshooter5298 hey, it's not that bad, but have it scanned first. I had a bad coil pack also. Try the Kroil trick. You can feel if they are about to break off. If that happens you may need the Lisle kit. Everyone I have told how I did it haven't had a problem. If it's a truck there really isn't but one plug hard to get to and it's not that bad. The shops in our area charge 1000.00 to do it. Ridiculous.

@@thepitpatrol I ran a scan with my basic OEM 2. I haven’t brought it in for a proper scan at a shop though…would the coils show up on my basic scanner? Cause it’s showing misfires currently. Thanks for replying

To keep hot. Good ideal. Was wondering how I was gonna do it so fast .😃

Just do it yourself

@@Pedrofitbulls Not really my area of expertise.

@@basementsinbangladesh1689 there ain’t too hard if you got room too work just take them out put new ones

Do the plugs yourself shops over charge they charged me 179 just to remove #8 broken plug

​@@basementsinbangladesh1689 avg ford owner

Not on these 5.4 , that’s the older 5.4

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Coolest part..... is that I will NEVER know the difference

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Don’t need it if people would stop torquing them down like they were shocks

@@HughWoo that's not the issue. The bottom half of the plug is what breaks off and stays in the head because of carbon build up. The threaded portion normally comes out just fine. It's a bad design

@@HoLeeFuk317 exactly.

So he's right ? Best to do when hot

Same here wish I knew this I was trying to change mine while the engine was cold broke like 4 used the extraction tool the last one was the cylinder 8 extraction tool was worn i guess sent it to ford they charged me $179 just to remove the #8 plug

@@raybarnes5142 I tried to take mine to Ford to get the two extracted and I was greeted with "this vehicle is too old for us to work on." It's a 2007 f150. I'm told by them any vehicle over 10 years old is a "liability" because "once you take it apart there's a chance more parts will break."

I swear. Change the oil and they last forever

I'm not having any problems... 167,000 miles... Sound and runs great ... Leaking valve cover.

I was thinking it was later around 2009, when they went to brown coil boots and the pcm that went inside the firewall.

On a mustang it was mid 08

It was late 2008.

Not really. Bad plug design

I mean...not if the plug has already been in there for 100k miles. Kinda late at that point.

I completely agree

U sound like hater champ 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

Its true. All aftermarket plugs for these POS are better than FOMOCO BS.

@@bradmbz ford put out an update plug.

@@metalsurgeon9196 and?

Use the impact to remove, not install!No need for a machine shop. Just use the special tool made for the plugs on triton engine. I think it’s like $40 now.

Also this method has been used for years now. I’ve personally been doing it for more then 10 years. Been a Automotive tech for 19 years.

They sell extractors designed for these 3V broken plugs.

That's on the 2V engines.

They only blow out if not tight. Mostly 2v

@@marktiitto7616 no they will blow out. The threads corrode and start to disintegrate especially with alot of short trip. Antisieze with a bit more torque than specified is the answer but only if the threads are still good.

​@@micahap1559that is not true there's only three threads holding them spark plugs in and the problem comes as they become a little bit loose and people don't notice it and then they wiggle around and then they just blow out after wearing on the threads definitely a flaw but if your service someone's vehicle knowing the issue with them add every other oil change or so you just checked to make sure they were still torqued never had anyone come back with one blowing out following that procedure too many people don't know the true design of different manufacturers engines

@@throttlethumb150I disagree. Any plug can blow out if it's loose. Never seen one with 3 threads. Maybe they were already corroded and gone. Every one I've seen was corroded. Why are they always loose? People usually over tighten vs under. Maybe the problem that spec is to low and it should have something to protect the threads from corrosion.

replace with a one piece

I’m afraid to snap it

Using the gun works pretty much every time. If one breaks then use the special tool made for the Triton 5.4 3v spark plug.

So the removal tool is only beneficial once the plug has already broken, Correct? Like there’s no special to use from the jump to prevent breaking

Buell Motorcycle v-twin spark plug socket-it’s the only thing that I’ve found that gets in and out in one piece. Hard to find anymore tho…

Angled impact

Ratchet and broken plug tool.

You ain't joking brother. Brake clean messes a fellow up something fierce.

no just over wound his rubber band will break one day

Whatever you say buddy

@@dustinpomeroy8817 I like that. And its true. Thats exactly what happened to mine. And I repaired it myself. I was a certified technician for 18yrs.

You know these break because the plug was a ² piece design and they seize themselves to the head right?

@@dustinpomeroy8817 I do. It doesn't break when you try to change it. If you ever worked at a shop you know that people dont normally pull plugs unless they have too. Especially for some iridium ones for a ford. So normally you start with a check engine light. You ignore that cause you can't tell its a miss fire. Until the light is flashing and it runs like crap and you are forced to repair it. Then big surprise the plug doesn't all come out of the hole.

In thirty years, you haven’t learned shit then. Always hilarious when dudes get stuck in their old ways and never progress past what they learned in the first couple years.

That was the 2 valve totally different engine genius

In my last 8 years somehow I’ve managed to never break a 3V plug. Don’t know if I’m lucky or my heat it up and use an impact method works that well lol

@@FlyingWrenches13 that's how I was trained to do it. Go out beat the crap out of the truck. Then impact them boys out.

@@FlyingWrenches13 I’m a Automotive tech of 19 years. I’ve used this method for years. Works like a charm and the special removal tool collects dust in my toolbox.

@@myboy051does that special tool only help when the plug has already broken?

I do the exact same thing. The trick is the very first step. Have to get it hot first. I'm even using the exact same impact. 💪🔧

@@rideordie3305 yeah but I prefer not to rip the aluminum threads out regardless of the spark plugs come out the threads are destroyed but that much torque. I'd say getting the engine might be a smart move but either way are you willing to risk that off of luck? Sorry not me typically I don't work on these Triton engines but the same time I'm not paying for somebody's engine because I destroyed their cylinder heads. 💯💯💯💯

@@rideordie3305 at a dealership everyday but not out of performance shop when it's not coming out of somebody else's pocket. That's like ripping a light bulb out of the socket without an unscrewing it properly

Shit box

You are right

The engineers knew there would be problems. But they also know. I real mechanic WILL figure out a solution. How do I know this fact? I know an engineer. Funny thing was I knew him for 4 years before he told me he was an engineer

Dillusional!!!!!!!!

Shittiest motors on the planet!!!

@@joshuawolf2349 recognize sarcasm bud…

Exactly..this is the opposite of how people are trained to not strip em...