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How to Prevent Rust? Linseed, Tung, 3In1 Oil, Johnsons and Bees Wax, Acid, and WD-40 

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In this video we conduct an experiment to see what prevents rust the best. We tested Tung oil, linseed oil, 3 in 1 oil, wd40, acid, bees wax, johnsons paste wax, and nothing. Please like and subscribe! THANKS!!!
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@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower
@KIP_KnowledgeIsPower 2 года назад
THANK YOU!!! Out of the countless videos I’ve watched on individual products trying to decide, this video was all I needed!! Thank you!!!! 🙌🏼😁
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
You are so welcome!
@JollyRogerHobbies
@JollyRogerHobbies 3 года назад
A good video comparison. I hope to see more like this. I don't make knives, but this video can help anyone who uses metal tools. Keep the great vids coming
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Thank you
@hammerhead-pt4ne
@hammerhead-pt4ne 3 года назад
Incredibly helpful experiment! thanks a bunch for this.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@Wooley689
@Wooley689 3 года назад
Enjoyed watching this, thanks for sending me the link.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it! and your welcome
@John..18
@John..18 3 года назад
Thanks so much for this video,, I was searching for food safe blade rust prevention, and came across your video,, !! I was all set to order some beeswax, and your information has confirmed what I was thinking, !! So, just subbed,,, All the best from across the pond,, 😀
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Thank you, glad I could help
@unitytira4954
@unitytira4954 Год назад
Thank you so much for sharing this video, excellent.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@thayaalan9277
@thayaalan9277 Год назад
Thank you so much for the video!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
You are so welcome!
@pipeblacksmith
@pipeblacksmith 2 года назад
Nice. Thanks so much for this video 👍
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
No problem 👍
@teresateague9906
@teresateague9906 2 года назад
Thanks for the video. Very helpful. I had a feeling beeswax would be the winner here. I've been using a homemade beeswax/oil blend on my cast iron which works great. After your video I feel safe using it on a tin lampshade outdoors(high humidity here in Northern Virginia). Thanks again!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
thank you
@mcschneeman1
@mcschneeman1 3 года назад
hi jacob! matthew from A Year from Now..., my g/f is an art conservator and has done experiments just like this. very cool!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
awesome and glad you like it
@Gem-Ex
@Gem-Ex Год назад
Good stuff guys. Subbed
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Thanks man
@richardberner8711
@richardberner8711 2 года назад
Well a good test for immediate water repellent capability. For linseed oil and ting oil - they are drying oils that form a polymer. Once the polymer has formed the finish is better than paint. Beeswax wears off and has to be reapplied.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Very true but after extreme use even linseed oil needs to be reapplied
@imover9999
@imover9999 Год назад
Still this is good information. It seems it would be best to apply linseed oil, let it harden and polymerize, and then after that apply beeswax as an extra water resistant coating on top of that. Just my two cents, I don't speak from years of experience, just a guess.
@jbranstetter04
@jbranstetter04 Год назад
Linseed oil has been used for years by farmers to protect metal and wood. What's good about it is that it protects both of them and is very quick and easy to apply. It will leave a nice-looking patina if you wire brush the metal first. Also can be used on gun stocks.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Pretty stuff
@Nikwigi
@Nikwigi 2 года назад
Nice simple video.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
thank you
@HaloWolf102
@HaloWolf102 10 месяцев назад
Who knew the most natural of these products would be the best for rust prevention. All of these manufacturing plants selling snake oil, and polluting the environment on top of that, when we had the answer to rust prevention the entire time.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 10 месяцев назад
so true
@L-Destroyer
@L-Destroyer 3 месяца назад
Thanks for this, I had some issues with linseed oil coating on some hinges so was looking for an alternative.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 месяца назад
Happy to help
@KH-ue8si
@KH-ue8si 3 года назад
Awesome!!!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Thanks!!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Hope yall enjoy this vid!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
yee yee
@efrainavena2672
@efrainavena2672 Год назад
you are awesome, thank you
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Happy to help!
@onanysundrymule3144
@onanysundrymule3144 8 дней назад
A nice empirical experiment Sir. Could you just clarify please, was it Raw linseed oil or Boiled Linseed oil that you used here. Kind regards.
@jrsforest187
@jrsforest187 Год назад
Considering that beeswax would be impossible to undercoat a truck, I'll use linseed oil. Great test.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Good choice
@vortexor1
@vortexor1 Год назад
why dont mix it?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
@@vortexor1 might work really good
@nolanc.4752
@nolanc.4752 3 года назад
Would love to see how Lps2, Lps3 and Sta-bil rust stopper would've held up.in this group. Three GREAT options
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
next video I will test those
@aslanbosnakoglu8240
@aslanbosnakoglu8240 Год назад
very informative
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Glad you think so!
@insomniacryan9916
@insomniacryan9916 3 года назад
I use Remington gun oil for my non-food blades. For food safe blades I prefer walnut or beeswax. Here in dry CO, just about anything will work. Never had so much as a rusty fingerprint on any blade. I don’t know if linseed goes bad, but I’ll have to look into that now.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
awesome thanks!!!
@supermick83
@supermick83 2 года назад
I've been using linseed for years on tools and knives but my uncle sells honey and beeswax so must get some wax off him and try it. Good video 👍
@douglasreed9237
@douglasreed9237 2 года назад
Try it with 5160 I'm curious because I have a few kukris in that steel that will rust quite easily. Maybe dip the steel in linseed and tung oil like you did in the acid and just let it air dry. It may make a big difference. Keep up the good work.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
I will do that next time
@dragonmodel9262
@dragonmodel9262 2 года назад
thank you.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Welcome!
@darrenfrazier8560
@darrenfrazier8560 3 года назад
Were all of them applied cold? I usually apply bees wax or paste wax while the work is still hot, when I use them.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
Bees wax was applied hot others were warm
@craigjensen782
@craigjensen782 3 года назад
🐝 wax for the win!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
OH YA also look at the views and the sub count
@Richard-dh8ny
@Richard-dh8ny Год назад
Thanks for providing this great video! I'd like to try using Bees Wax to protect metal, such as my table saw and wood planes from rusting. Can you please tell me if you purchased a "paste" bees wax or if you warmed it up to apply it to the metal? The only Bees Wax I'm familiar with comes in blocks.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
I have used both and they both work well
@glennmartin6492
@glennmartin6492 3 года назад
It's a good idea and you were careful but try heating all of them before applying the coatings.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
yes i should have done that
@glennmartin6492
@glennmartin6492 3 года назад
@@jaggedmountainknives If it gives better results then it might take longer for sufficient rust to show up to compare.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
true, it is not a perfect experiment
@5naxalotl
@5naxalotl 2 года назад
interesting feature of linseed (& tung) is that it's not just a barrier. it absorbs oxygen to polymerize, so it scavenges oxygen trapped next to the metal
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
awesome
@eirikmurito
@eirikmurito 3 месяца назад
Can you do a video on heating the metal and dip them it in these oils. I think it will stick better
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 месяца назад
yes sir
@millin2222
@millin2222 11 месяцев назад
That's interesting, how did you apply the beeswax? Thanks for the info
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 11 месяцев назад
Melted it on
@dehawklin
@dehawklin 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the video Can i use beeswax for jewelry metals like hooks and jump rings
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 месяца назад
Yes you can
@Agloriousburrito
@Agloriousburrito Год назад
What if you do combinations like beeswax and linseed oil?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
I like the idea and will have to try it sometime
@yeudsiegal5285
@yeudsiegal5285 2 года назад
Did the beeswax change the reflection, full the finish, or not let light in?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
It changed it slightly but you could still see the steel clearly
@vhaelen326
@vhaelen326 Год назад
i mean this test works great for static objects but with objects like tools it might be different because of the wear, so hypothetically speaking if the bees wax gets scraped of after slight use but lets say wd-40 stays on for months even with heavy use i would clasify wd-40 as 'better'" then beeswax because beeswax protects better but wd-40 protects longer, i would love to see this test done again but implement some kind of wear and tear part into the test, like ontop of spraying the parts with water every day you also rub them on the ground every day to simulate use
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
that is a great idea that i will definitely include the next time i do the test
@vhaelen326
@vhaelen326 Год назад
@@jaggedmountainknives wow i didnt expect an answer, let alone so quickly and a positive one :D you could also coat both sides but only do the wear and tear part of the test on one side so you could have a somewhat direct comparison between the difference the wear does to the coating
@ComeWhatThey
@ComeWhatThey 10 месяцев назад
WD40 absolutely doesn't last well, it's basically just solvents and will wash off with a small amount of water. Something like linseed oil, however, will "cure" and polymerise and probably form a more durable coating than wax.
@eroticmasterbaker
@eroticmasterbaker Год назад
How long did you let them dry first?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Couple hours
@phaledax3661
@phaledax3661 9 месяцев назад
The linseed oil, the steel needs to be heated to around 400F otherwise it will not convert the oil into polymers and the polymers won't bake on, that's what protects the steel, and the oil just runs off.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 9 месяцев назад
good to know
@jimberry9664
@jimberry9664 11 месяцев назад
Do you not recommend fish oil .?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 11 месяцев назад
I have never tried it
@jorgesoross127
@jorgesoross127 8 месяцев назад
Problem: you heated the metal first to prepare it for beeswax which may have formed a thin protective layer of oxidation that got sealed in by the wax. Could you repeat the experiment by heating every piece of metal before submerging it in the treatment?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 8 месяцев назад
I can do that next time
@Cam.j.c
@Cam.j.c 7 месяцев назад
Heat or no heat, even if he just heated the wax instead of the metal the outcome would have more than likely the same, the wax melts around the metal making an (Semi)impermeable coating. Personally I'd stick with an oil, oils for sure more durable/heat resistant, wax could just chip/rub off after a couple uses? I dunno I don't work here. . .
@jorgesoross127
@jorgesoross127 7 месяцев назад
​@@Cam.j.c it probably won't make a difference like you said, but if you heat a piece of metal and put it in something cold (like oil or wax) it will effectively quench the metal which changes its hardness - could you then rightly call it the same metal? Same reason boiling room temperature water in glass is not the same as dropping glass at 212° into room temperature water. The rapid change in temperature and the lack of uniform change will cause the glass to explode. It probably didn't change the results of the experiment - but it could have. That's all I'm saying.
@quintenjacobs5684
@quintenjacobs5684 Год назад
hi mate, thx for the comparison. I am looking for a solution for my offset smoker BBQ. A lot of others use linseed oil but beeswax seems to be better solution. When I watch other videos they heat the oil either with flame torch or by firing up the BBQ very hot. This way it has a chemical reaction and becomes extra hard. Are you aware of this technique?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Yes it works the best! I just can't heat my knives up to apply it like that
@quintenjacobs5684
@quintenjacobs5684 Год назад
@@jaggedmountainknives Why not if I may ask?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
@Quinten Jacobs heat treatment, once a blade has been quenched if the steel temperature rises above 350 it becomes less hard and loses its temper
@quintenjacobs5684
@quintenjacobs5684 Год назад
@@jaggedmountainknives Ah I get it. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. Can you tell more about the science of heating vs non heating beewax coating?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
@Quinten Jacobs I don't know all the science but I like to relate it to cast iron pans. When you cook with a cast iron and take care of it properly the oil slowly builds a resin like protection against rust and sticking. It's the same with heating up metal and applying beeswax it "cooks" the bees wax on to the surface of the metal instead of it just being like an oiled cast iron pan that hasn't been heated up.
@armin7695
@armin7695 3 года назад
How long did the linseed oil sit and dry before getting wet?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
about 25 min
@armin7695
@armin7695 3 года назад
@@jaggedmountainknives could it be possible that you washed some of it off because it hadn't fully dried?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
possible but im not sure
@BencasterGuitars
@BencasterGuitars 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, I would be curious how oil finishes works when left down to cure (or at least dry) properly. I use pure baked tung oil as guitar finish and it takes apx 1 week to dry properly. I guess the spots on both linseed and tung oil pieces are from water washing down the finish before it dried...
@BobbyBasketballl
@BobbyBasketballl Год назад
Acids are supposed to treat rust not prevent. Once they clean off the rust youre supposes to neutralize the acid with water and dry it with heat then treat cover clean metal with paint or a inhibitor.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
Totally correct
@vincentwyble5346
@vincentwyble5346 Год назад
You should do again with axe wax, or some kind homemade stuff
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
I will use it the next time I do it
@vincentwyble5346
@vincentwyble5346 Год назад
Thank you so much 👍
@DaveBennett
@DaveBennett 3 месяца назад
I've used gun oil with great success. Nothing special, just pick it up at Walmart and apply with a rag.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 месяца назад
Good to know
@walden6272
@walden6272 Год назад
What brand of bee's wax is that?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
not a brand from my uncles bees
@walden6272
@walden6272 Год назад
@@jaggedmountainknives Really? That's cool. How did you apply it on the metal? Did you just rub it or did you have to melt it first?
@planesmart75001
@planesmart75001 8 месяцев назад
Heat the metal and put on the linseed oil
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 8 месяцев назад
Will do
@9595david
@9595david 25 дней назад
Looks like beeswax was the only one you pre heated no? They all should have been heated, no?
@bogopouk8551
@bogopouk8551 2 года назад
One of u guys from Myanmar?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
no but I speak Burmese
@jbiggysmyth7320
@jbiggysmyth7320 2 года назад
Most of these products need to have the metal preheated before application. So...
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
true
@bambusleitung1947
@bambusleitung1947 3 года назад
how did you get bee wax on it?
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
heated up the metal and melted it on
@user-ku6ve1nn2j
@user-ku6ve1nn2j 6 месяцев назад
Nobody tests vegetable oil ? Hmmn. Seems to me all the youtubers are promoting brands, instead of making videos of what really workz
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 5 месяцев назад
I will test it next time
@kestutisbagusauskas8323
@kestutisbagusauskas8323 2 месяца назад
Muriatic acid = hydrochloric acid is one of the best agents to cause rust! NEVER use it on anything you want to prevent rust on!
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 2 месяца назад
good to know
@BatiJuampe
@BatiJuampe 3 года назад
Man you just kill 3in1oil for me! It'll be cool to make the same experiment with one metal plate without anything, just for comparison with the worst methods.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 года назад
ya it would be
@vincentwyble5346
@vincentwyble5346 Год назад
I thought that control was the one without anything on it ?
@embededfabrication4482
@embededfabrication4482 Год назад
melt some bees wax into linseed oil
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
I like that idea
@Pizzalaser
@Pizzalaser Год назад
Beeswax have won from preventing rust.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
it sure has
@rahuldasmajumder5121
@rahuldasmajumder5121 3 года назад
Lol u just wiped the sprays after applying them. Lmao. The wd 40 does a better job if u let it dry out itself. Don't wipe it out, as u r wiping out the left off oil.
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives Год назад
will do
@MrCalixtosaquic
@MrCalixtosaquic 4 месяца назад
This video need to get millions of views also this channel need to get millions of subscribers please if you watch this subscribe
@jaggedmountainknives
@jaggedmountainknives 3 месяца назад
Thank you
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