Another way to pronounce r in french is by motioning your tongue as if you are gonna make a g sound and then blowing air. This way was easier for me but it can vary from person to person.
pardon my bad english. The position of the articulation of the french r isnt quite the same as the g. It would become a /ɣ/ instead of the /ʁ/ in french. The french r is deeper in the throat than g.
It's definitely a challenge! Try placing a pen or pencil across your mouth (toward the back) and bite down on it. That'll help you keep your tongue down while you practice. Being aware of what your tongue is doing is already a big step in the right direction! 🙂👍
@@ChristelleRolland Thank you. I'm assuming it reverberates to the front of the tongue too. Now, that I have an idea of how to do it, I just have to actually practice it with words.
@@chromatinkiss You're right, it does reverberate somewhat to the front of the tongue, that's a good observation! In the original video, I suggest using the words "gros bras gras" to practice 💪
I have a hard time pronouncing it with high vowels [y], [e] [i] in the same syllable. It logically seems contradictory to me to have to raise your tongue to create a narrow space to make a high vowel whilst having to keep it down and back for /r/. I don't know what to do and am not able to solve it for a long time. I also cannot pass from plosives to /r/ fast enough in consonant clusters and thus, my plosives sound longer and stronger and even aspirated. Would you mind helping me to understand it?
Hi! Have you worked with a French instructor and/or a native French speaker on this specific issue? Sometimes, tense mouth muscles can make certain sound combinations difficult. Relaxation is key! Focus on gradual improvement, and remember to be patient with yourself. With consistent practice and guidance, you'll notice progress over time. Keep at it 😊
The French R was and still is alive and well in Britain where it used to be called the "Oxford R". Only oldies like me remember it, which is why Americans are wrong when they think the American R comes from Britain, eg - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mD3PeYji9Ew.html
My understanding is that they're very similar but not totally identical in terms of articulation. They use the same phonetic symbol /ʁ/ but غ sounds like a stronger French R to me when used in words. It's definitely subtle and if you're already familiar with the pronunciation of غ, it's fine to apply it to French 🙂
It's actually /r/ or [ɹʷ]. This video wasn't meant to be overly technical or even about IPA, the symbols were only used to help people visualize two different R sounds 🙂