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How to Rebuild a Coleman 275 - Lantern Lab Episode 9 

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The Coleman 275, commonly referred to as "The Turd" is something every real collector has but maybe doesn't want to admit. This model was the first in the US with a schrader valve for fuel shutoff. The design was radically different than any previous US lantern and it quickly earned a poor reputation. The schrader valves aged poorly and leaked resulting in lanterns that fireballed when they were lit or just wouldn't shut off. Fortunately the schrader valve is pretty easy to replace with a few simple tools.
This particular 275 is the "Joe B. Lantern" which was given to me in retaliation for a particularly horrible AGM stove I hid in Joe B's truck after a gathering at the cabin. When I first got it the valve was stuck, the vent nut was missing, there was no glass and somebody had stenciled initials on the vent.
Believe it or not this video took over a year to make, I first started shooting it on Feb 4, 2017. Due to unfamiliarity with a new camera everything I shot was out of focus so I shot it again, and again, and again. This project required a total of 4 schrader valves since removing the valve pretty much destroys it. I've never had a video I was so glad to complete.
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@patricksomers5872
@patricksomers5872 6 месяцев назад
I had to replace the Schrader valve on my new 11/76 Turd. The top of the Schrader valve snapped off. I had to heat the fuel air tube, and the remainder of the Schrader valve popped out. The Turd is running great now. Thanks for making this video.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 6 месяцев назад
In making the video I had to repeatedly remove schrader valves. I think I ruined every one I had to remove. IIRC I went through like 4 in making the video...
@budhole3
@budhole3 Год назад
Thanks for the video. I know its 4 years old, but this and another rebuild helped me rebuild two 275's correctly with fuel-resistant Schrader valves. A little heat on the original valve helped remove the old valve without it coming apart. Again thanks.
@salvationknight
@salvationknight 4 года назад
thank you for the video, i finished "fixing" my 275 today. i did notice a slight hissing after but didnt know it had a valve down there. today was the first light since 1976
@salvationknight
@salvationknight 4 года назад
The shrader valve was bad,thats why it kept hissing after it was turned off, but when i was taking the valve off the shrader valve broke in half inside the tube now i cant get it out any tips on taking the bottom part of the shrader valve out?
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 года назад
They do that, I've never removed one that didn't break up. Use some needle nose pliers to pull the big bits out, then work at it with a 4way tool until all the little chunks come out. The tube has to be really clean before you put the new one in or it will fail quickly.
@JohnWalshLegend
@JohnWalshLegend 3 года назад
Hi Curt, just got hold of a Turd.....This is helpful!
@capcon6
@capcon6 4 года назад
I never knew it had a Schrader valve. I just replaced the generator. It still works and I'm going to touch it...lol born 3/'77 and thank you!
@lukel4783
@lukel4783 4 года назад
Thank you for making this video. It helped me fix my 275. It was running away when cut to the off position.
@TheRunAndGun10
@TheRunAndGun10 6 лет назад
Great video! I now know what is being referred too when a “schreader valve” is mentioned.
@rhodysweet
@rhodysweet 6 лет назад
Thanks Curt, exactly the tutorial I needed to attempt my own turd repair with a leaky valve!
@hovanti
@hovanti 6 лет назад
Thank you, Curt, this was quite helpful to me. Thank you for your persistence in making this video, as it seems you had more than a little trouble in the process.
@patricksomers5872
@patricksomers5872 2 года назад
I have 3 Turds; one original 275, and two 275As. The valve assembly on the 275A is simpler than the 275. I had to replace the rod that the knob attaches to. Not knowing what I was doing, I bent that rod while trying to remove the valve assembly from the fount! Thankfully, Someone in the Coleman Collectors group had an extra one, so I was able to get my 275A back up & running. OCP had the graphite packing in stock as well. The lessons learned from that experience paid off this past weekend when I had to replace the valve assembly on my other 275A. I liked this video so it’s handy should I need to work on my 275. Again, thanks for making this video. Also, my hands are chapped and raw from all of the hand washing that I did!
@KSC-ui8zr
@KSC-ui8zr 6 лет назад
I never had a desire for one of these lanterns, but after this video I may have to give one a try. Thanks for sharing.
@lurchie
@lurchie 6 лет назад
"This caused some unpleasantness . . ." *FOOM!!* :D . . .and the understatement of the year award goes to . . . . Great video! Thank you for sharing!
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 6 лет назад
Shoot that wasn't anything, didn't even light the grill on fire.
@dremwolf5419
@dremwolf5419 3 года назад
Love my Turd!
@tonyt227
@tonyt227 Год назад
Thanks for this. I never cared for the 275’s but probably have 4-5 of them set back and am getting ready to test run and repair as needed. They’ve definitely grown on me and am looking forward to getting them running. I’m even liking the brown color! Thanks again!
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs Год назад
They're good lanterns, there is a lot of misinformation around them so they get a bad rap.
@tonyt227
@tonyt227 Год назад
I think you’re right. I’ve got it completely torn down except for letting the old Schrader soak in pb blaster for a night or two. (PB blaster is our friend😊) Also waiting on an order of viton sealed schraders to come in anyway. Thanks again!
@tonyt227
@tonyt227 Год назад
Curt, I need your help please. I got the new viton schrader installed and got the depth of it adjusted where it fit the detents when opening and closing and the rod was adjusted as you instructed. I blew in it to test and it was just right, no air closed, air when open. When I install the valve assembly into the font and give it a few pumps I get air when closed, no air when straight up and air when wide open. One thing I forgot to do was loctite the schrader when I installed but it did screw in a good ways and it was tight. Thank you!
@Johnfc2
@Johnfc2 6 лет назад
Great video! Thanks for showing how to fix the Schrader valve
@fmtelevison
@fmtelevison 6 лет назад
It's very nice to see you again 😀✌
@CalvinsCorner72
@CalvinsCorner72 6 лет назад
Wow very good detailed video. Loved it I will revisit this as needed. Thanks
@kevindempsey5486
@kevindempsey5486 4 года назад
Very informative video indeed. I've just stripped the top half on 275 down because the fuel output is erratic but now I know I need to go further. Many thanks for your video.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 года назад
They're pretty easy to work on, just different than the other stuff.
@TheTeetee85
@TheTeetee85 6 лет назад
Thank you so much for sharing. look forward to the next video!!!
@hereismyusername007
@hereismyusername007 4 года назад
Great video. Very well done, and very informative. Thank you.
@lunchbox5825
@lunchbox5825 6 лет назад
Now I know how to replace that style valve Thank You. As always great vid
@BluegrassBushcraft
@BluegrassBushcraft 6 лет назад
Great informative video. I have one of these in almost mint condition but with a hard wind gust last summer it was turned over and busted the globe.
@peterjahn8530
@peterjahn8530 6 лет назад
Great video Curt
@martinadejaquiz2482
@martinadejaquiz2482 6 лет назад
Vnice & handy vid - i have (2) 275's & i need to rebuild them both. one of them does just like u said..... leaks out of the generator w/valve off. had it stored in garage in summer... it got hot and ran fuel out all over the place. thx4vid!
@CraigArndt
@CraigArndt 6 лет назад
Excellent instructional video!!
@steveyoung4107
@steveyoung4107 6 лет назад
Thank you, great video as always
@1fanger
@1fanger 6 лет назад
Very cool, thanks, I have one of these, it came with the carry case, which is even uglier than the turd. It is sort of the color of French`s Mustard.
@CalvinsCorner72
@CalvinsCorner72 4 года назад
Thanks that’s awesome
@dtq73880
@dtq73880 5 лет назад
I assume there are two versions of fuel pickup tubes I used your video to help me fix my 275 and it doesn’t have the rod and spring below the Schrader valve.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 5 лет назад
There was a 275A which was slightly different than the 275 but I don't remember offhand what the difference is. I have one, maybe I'll make a follow-up.
@seabee12333
@seabee12333 3 года назад
I just took my May '76 275 apart and it doesn't appear to have ever been apart before. they used a lot more than a drop of blue loctite when they put it together at the factory., more like a flood of red both on the valve to fount and on the FA tube. no big deal, a little heat melts red loctite, even if it's 45 years old. good video, thanks for posting!
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 3 года назад
Coleman actually used gasolia and yeah, I've seen a lot of cases where they used a lot of it. Red loctite is actually way more heat resistant, it claims to require 500F...
@jeffmatz9021
@jeffmatz9021 Год назад
Thanks for great info, my wife got me a turd for an anniversary gift! Question- When I do an air leak test I can hear air from gas jet when I turn my valve past the off position from on. None in off position. Do I have it adjusted improperly??
@jeschreindl
@jeschreindl 3 года назад
Just bought a super clean 275 but needs the schrader and a burner screen.
@idiggplants
@idiggplants 4 года назад
very cool. we have an old 275 that has been sitting in storage for 5 years as it got dim and my dad gave up on it. planning on using this video to rebuild it. can i get a hint on where to buy the schrader valve and a new generator? is there anything else i should clean while it is apart? im new to working on these older lanterns.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 года назад
OldColemanparts.com can hook you up with everything you need. Mike is a great guy and supports the community. Clean the fuel pickup carefully, thats a common problem spot.
@idiggplants
@idiggplants 4 года назад
@@LanternLabs well, that is convenient. that is the place i found via various forums and i placed the order last night! thanks for the advice!
@PREPFORIT
@PREPFORIT 6 лет назад
Good info Share ! I like Original gear but I wont hate you if you re- paint that Lantern .!
@pjcd7016
@pjcd7016 6 лет назад
Nice job, where can you pick up the schrader valve, I have two 275's, one in new condition, the other is used and will not shut off, (apparently the schrader is bad).
@pjcd7016
@pjcd7016 6 лет назад
Just in case anyone is interested, I picked up a schrader valve from "Old Coleman Parts", they have a great selection of parts for vintage Colman products.
@markfuller979
@markfuller979 5 лет назад
Old Coleman Parts is the place for info and parts for your lanterns.
@user-xg8vx8qz6v
@user-xg8vx8qz6v 3 года назад
Can you tell me how to disassemble the knob part? I have leaking problem
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 3 года назад
I'm having a hard time remembering, its been a long time since I took a 275 valve apart. The knob is press fit, you release it with a little pick to pull the metal right behind it toward the knob. I *think* the shaft uses a conventional graphite packing, Old Coleman parts lists one anyway. Be careful taking the spacer thing off the shaft, I broke the first one I ever worked on.
@LuisGarcia-jx5su
@LuisGarcia-jx5su 4 года назад
Where do you purchase replacement parts? My 275 leaks i close the valve but the flame doesnt go out. Thank you for the video, will be very useful in the near future!
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 года назад
oldcolemanparts.com Mike will hook you up. Don't use a regular tire valve for this. I've got an upcoming video that will show you why.
@LuisGarcia-jx5su
@LuisGarcia-jx5su 4 года назад
@@LanternLabs Thank you for the quick response! Ok, Ill wait for your next video than to start the rebuild!
@clockworkbike
@clockworkbike 4 месяца назад
I have a 286 lantern, is the disassembly similar? Mine does not shut off, just a small leak for hours.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 месяца назад
I don't think so, I think the 286 has a plastic FA tube of some sort. IIRC they crack and need replacing.
@abdullaex4119
@abdullaex4119 4 года назад
Great vid. However, my shrader value appears to be different. The portion on the value, that has flats on it, unscrews from the generator tube. The rest of the value stays in the tube. The piece unscrewed, appears to be a small retaining cap for the value. The rest of the value stays in the generator tube. I tried to pull the fuel rod out of the generator tube but it is still under spring tension. Never seen this before. HELP !!!Many thanks
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 4 года назад
I think you tore the valve apart. Use your 4 way tool to dig all the bits out. This is quite common, the rubber degrades and gets sticky...
@abdullaex4119
@abdullaex4119 4 года назад
@@LanternLabs Many thanks. I will give that a try tommorrow. I've never seen a shrader value like this. I hate to run my 4 way tool and possible destroy the gen tube.
@patricksomers5872
@patricksomers5872 2 года назад
Did you wash your hands after working on that Turd? Seriously, great, helpful video. Thanks for making it.
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 2 года назад
The project to make the video took forever, lots of handwashing...
@colinj5291
@colinj5291 3 года назад
They made it until 1983. It was called the 275-A after '79.
@williammargrave4891
@williammargrave4891 2 года назад
Thank you for the video. I cannot for the life of me find the Schrader vavle that I need. Could you give me a part number please?
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 2 года назад
Contact OldColemanparts.com, they list it as a valve core on their website. You can find it under the listing for the 275.
@williammargrave4891
@williammargrave4891 2 года назад
@@LanternLabs Thank you very much. Keep that oil burning.
@tomallen6073
@tomallen6073 2 года назад
Is the tank aluminum
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 2 года назад
No. The tanks on I think all Coleman lamps, lanterns and stoves post WWII are steel. I don't know that they ever made aluminum tanks, the early ones were brass.
@Kingreddoberman
@Kingreddoberman 5 лет назад
Found this on the 275 vs. 275A: www.colemancollectorsforum.com/post/275-or-275a-which-is-better-6811527
@grayhawk-bh6bw
@grayhawk-bh6bw 3 года назад
The initials on the vent probably means moral,welfare, and recreation. This probably came from an army base/depot.
@seabee12333
@seabee12333 3 года назад
It's Morale, navy has MWR, they loan out camping gear
@Wasps9
@Wasps9 3 года назад
You skipped some key disassembly steps on the part that contains the Schrader valve. Frustrating
@LanternLabs
@LanternLabs 3 года назад
Huh? It unscrews from the valve, that's all there is to it.
@seabee12333
@seabee12333 3 года назад
@@LanternLabs it looked like someone had been in there before. looked like burn marks on the fount, but that could have been from fires from the leaking valve. I think the disassembly steps Greg is talking about is how the tube unthreads from the main valve body. mine was locked hard with thread locker. If I hadn't applied heat, I would have rounded off the flats and ruined the assembly. Like i say, maybe yours had been apart before...
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