How to Rebuild a Coleman 228E - Lantern Lab Episode 5

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In this episode of Lantern Lab I'll clean up and repair a 1954 Coleman 228E. The 228 is also referred to as the "big hat" for its large ventilator. The big vent points light down making it a great table lantern or for lighting a door or pathway. I generally have an easier time getting double mantle lanterns to work, especially once I built the special wrench for getting the thin nut off.
One thing I didn't show in this video is the fuel/air tube, I did the same basic cleanup job on it that I did in episode 4, if you check out that video it covers the basics.
These instructions apply to just about all 220 and 228 lanterns from the B through the F series so: 220B, 220C, 220D, 220E, and 220F plus the 228B, 228C, 228D, 228E, and 228F. Later lanterns (220/228 H, I J and K) are similar but a bit different.
The steps I follow here were originally outlined by Frank Bebb of Old Town Coleman. A lot of people would call this a "Full Frank Rebuild". You can find the detailed instructions here: www.oldtowncoleman.com/tech/re...
Any parts required in the course of a rebuild can be acquired from Mike at Oldcolemanparts.com he's a great guy, ships fast and charges a reasonable price.
There are a few things I didn't do in this video mostly because of time but also because I started with a reasonably good lantern that didn't need much more than a good cleaning. Often I'll find that the inside of the lantern fount (thats the tank part) is full of rust and other nastiness. Thats best remedied with a soak of some kind of acid aided by some mechanical action to help loosen stubborn particles, I use BBs inside the fount. This is often referred to as "The BB dance".
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@tomleach8227 Год назад

my brother just bought a 228e had a garage sale for 20 bucks I think came good shape I'll send them that video thank you

@CraigArndt 6 лет назад

I am restoring my grandfathers 228E, made in August 1955. It’s in nice shape, some rust in the tank, but not bad. This video is so helpful, thanks a lot. I also have his old dual burner stove which looks mint. Great channel.

@homeguy4 4 года назад

I just picked up a 1970 220F and it's now one of my favorite

@williamfayette8621 3 года назад

Hey man thanks so much I was trying to find the exact lantern because all mine are different but this was a good walk through step by step. Thank god because this one pisses me off so many times. I got mine from my brother in a trade and it wasn't working like he said and it sat in a basement of a barn and hasn't ran in about 10 years my guess and it leaked from every where on the lantern and pissed me off so bad I posted online for sale and gave up but you saved it and now it's fixed and i learned alot thank you so much! And NO I'm not selling it anymore. 😁🙂

@h.e.rogish5701 8 лет назад

Great tutorial and a wonderful resource! Fun to watch too. Thanks Curt!

@57WillysCJ 8 лет назад

Thanks, you have the best videos on Coleman repairs.

@teddycaro4108 7 лет назад

thank you sir your channel brought back to life a 200a 11-54 lantern will be my table lantern camping for the rest of my days thank you again!

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Glad to hear it!

@rbarr775 8 лет назад

Great timing; I'll be starting on my first lantern project, a 220F (a pair of them, actually) in a few weeks, and I have never had a lantern apart before. Neither holds pressure and both founts smell pretty bad, so it could be an adventure. Vids like yours will be a great supplement to what I've read already. I just love these things.

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

+rbarr775 Start with the pump leather and the cap gasket. Hate to spend a bunch of time on them only to find a leak...

@notgivennotgiven7776 5 лет назад

thanks for the video. I just picked up a 59 along the road , and it's in really good shape. I don't know anything about them, so thanks for the info.

@duffweld 8 лет назад

Excellent job. I just bought a 220J for 5.00 dollars at a flea market I'm hoping to bring it back to life.

@Bostonclassics1 7 лет назад

Really well done, appreciate all the details.

@petemcnulty 8 лет назад

Great vid as always. Thanks Curt. 😊👍🏼

@petemcnulty 8 лет назад

Great vid as always Curt! 😊👍🏼

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

pretty cool to get an old one going!

@wesleylegros2626 4 года назад

Just picked up a 228f 68 thanks for the vid

@tonyt227 7 лет назад

I just picked up a 228E that is in great shape physically but I dont believe its holding pressure. After watching this repair I'm already more familiar with my project. Thanks for your video!!

@tonyt227 7 лет назад

at 16:43 you push on the pump plunger and it doesnt go in. I soaked the pump cup in oil and it does pump up the fount but it doesnt push back on the plunger as it did with you. Is that leaking around the cup or valve related? Thanks!

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Most of the time when they don't hold pressure its because of the gas cap seal. I've got a video on that too.

@runswithscissorsranch 4 года назад

i love your videos they are great for new people like me.

@cgarby 8 лет назад

A mil spec lantern wrench works great for the cage nut. It's already angled.

@stephenzevetchin 4 года назад

thank you. Love these videos

@carloskerley7711 7 лет назад

By complete coincidence I am restoring my wife's deceased father's lantern that is this exact model. Good job and thanks for the help, but if I were picky I'd say a few close ups would be nice....but that's being awfully picky too!

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

All the way back to film school I've had trouble doing enough close ups... ;)

@vernorbanan1852 5 лет назад

Great vid

@mikeylovescampingalways3033 7 лет назад

Hi, big fan of your videos. Can you possibly do a video that goes in depth on dissasembling and cleaning vintage lanterns? what chemicals you use, how you do it, and perhaps touch on how to blow torch frozen gas knobs. Thank you so much. Your videos are extremely helpful.

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Next time I find a lantern with a stuck knob I'll make a video. Basically you just play the flame over the packing nut a little. Remove the knob first of course, keep the flame moving and check frequently to see if it freed up. Once its free put a drop of oil on the shaft to keep it loose.

@mickerdoodle51 6 лет назад

you rock! Thanks...

@TrailToughTrailers 8 лет назад

Thanks for the education....

@Valerifon1 4 года назад

Nice video but I would have loved to have seen the detail of the cleaning process! 😎👍 Atb - Luther

@Krankie_V 2 года назад

I've had some success repacking the tip cleaner stems with the graphite ribbon that is sold on oldcolemanparts. I much prefer using an original tip cleaner that's repacked over the reproduction ones.

@cgarby 8 лет назад

Excellent. So I wouldn't have to worry about messing up the tip cleaner ass'y if I use a different method to remove - not using an impact gun - say going by what is in the guide. Thx

@RobS123 7 лет назад

I have one that started leaking gas somewhere under the metal frame, and started disassembly. Problem is everything is so frozen, and noticed you used an impact drill on the main tube. Wouldn't using a penetrating oil like Kroil on a lot of the threaded nuts/screws a few days beforehand help?

@bigstick5278 7 лет назад

These things are around and can be picked up from Free to $5.00 to $20.00 at yard sales. Nobody wants to use them I can't keep my hands off them. I have always been amazed by the glowing mantel ever since I was a kid.We would go camping and fishing in Michigan with my uncle. He had two Army surplus Coleman's.

@notgivennotgiven7776 5 лет назад

BIG Stick yea, I just picked one up that someone put out along the road. as far as I can see right now, it only needs a globe, and the 2 mantels. it must not have been used hardly at all, cause it's in really good shape, and has a reflector too.

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

real good - thx!

@bustedknuckleworkshop 8 лет назад

Another very helpful video. Can you do one on dis-assembly of a slant?

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

+John “Kreepy Hollow” Duprey Fortunately I got a slant last summer. It needs cleaning so I'll add it to the list!

@stephenzevetchin 4 года назад

excellent

@jasontell7481 6 лет назад

3:00 = Genius

@wannaseemedoatrick 6 лет назад

Do you have the specs in the part your machinist friend made?

@wadecoffie7255 7 лет назад

I have this lantern. What causes the light to pulse? I did some minor disassembly and cleaned things out with the mantles and the cleaner valve it did help but did not completely fix it. Any ideas on how to get a steady light?

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

I find the twins tend to pulse, sometimes it can be fixed with a new generator, alternately messing with the generator packing (ie custom generator packing) can help. Some folks like a cap full of seafoam gas additive and claim it helps with pulsing.

@markeholbrook 7 лет назад

Two piece vent can be made one piece with a MIG welder. Great video.

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

The heat of the welder is awful hard on the surrounding porcelain.

@markeholbrook 7 лет назад

The heat over time usually causes the porcelain to chip off in three places, which then begin to rust and eventually causes to top of the vent to come loose. So yes, the welder is hard on porcelain, but I have tacked the vent back on without any new damage. I have thought about getting a kiln and replacing the porcelain, but that would take a lot of skill and knowledge and time, which I don't have much of. I have heard that if you fire the old vent in a kiln, remove it at full temperature, then drop it into cold water the old porcelain will pretty much all break off. Then you would have to get to clean bare metal, make repairs, coat the vent with glaze, fire it, probably more than once, and expect mixed results for a while. So, I probably won't ever try to to do that. I enjoy your videos, they are very informative.

@plumpye474 3 года назад

Hey I had some questions for you about the piece your friend made you and the socket you used in you impact wrench what was the socket you used to cut down and also could you Please tell me what is the exact Thread Pattern for the Piece you had made I’m wanting to make one myself or have one made Please Help Thank You 🙏🙏🙏

@LanternLabs 2 года назад

The socket is, I think, 9/16" but I don't think the exact size is particularly important. If I were going to make another I would use a larger socket and pad the inside with some hard rubber. I don't remember the thread size of the plug other than it was somewhat obscure or I would have bought a die to make the plug myself. Any competent machinist should be able to measure it and make one for you.

@neilolif 4 года назад

Nice video. I'm trying to clean up a 220F. The air tube does not had a screw like on yours, but it has a threaded hole. Could be for a screw that is missing? Or it could be for a slightly different design? Nevertheless, I can't get the air tube to unscrew even with a bit of heat.., New pump.., Seems to hold pressure even though the filler o-ring is pretty screwed up.

@LanternLabs 4 года назад

Its missing the screw but as you've found after its aged a little that screw isn't really required. Sometimes that air tube requires a fair amount of heat...

@thomvogan3397 6 лет назад

I just picked up an old Coleman 335 that I'm trying to get working right. Any chance you could do a video on it as I'm having a hard time finding any manuals or parts lists for it

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

A 335 is pretty much just a 200A with a different (some say better) burner arrangement. My 200A video covers it pretty well. I probably will make a 335 video someday as they're interesting lanterns but not really different.

@till9then 6 лет назад

Thanks have just caught the bug.

@chrisgeorge8408 7 лет назад

I have a 220H lantern and I am having compression issues. The plunger pump has been replaced, and the entire lantern has been taken apart to try and find the cause. A new plunger has been oiled/installed, but I am unable to compress the plunger at all. No air is entering the tank, so I am not sure what might be blocked. I have removed the check valve for cleaning, but no luck. Any help would be appreciated.

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

If you pull the check valve out and still can't pump theres an obstruction in the tube. Often this is a fatal problem as that tube isn't serviceable. I would suggest consulting with the folks over at the Coleman Collectors Forum, they may have some ideas on getting the tube opened up.

@crabtrap 5 лет назад

curt, start using mairatic acid at full strenght. i dump ALL nonpainted parts in soak bucket for about 5 mins...they come out looking showroom new. BUT you need to neutrelize in baking soda and water bath after. THEN, you need to back in oven at about 300f for an hour. this stops flash rusting by releasing hydrogen from the steel.

@LanternLabs 5 лет назад

Yeah, no. Hydrochlolric acid (I think you meant muriatic which is in fact hydrochloric acid) is much more dangerous than the citric acid I use. The fumes will rust any iron or steel nearby and it makes things dammed hard to paint later without spending a bunch of time neutralizing. Plus its many times more expensive. Why would I want something thats more expensive, more dangerous and harder to use?

@P61guy61 4 года назад

I am rebuilding a 228E and had to drill out the pump valve assembly. What is the thread size of the outside of the valve body? I need to know what size tap to run into the fount pump housing to clean up the threads.

@LanternLabs 4 года назад

You're talking about the check valve? The thing at the bottom of the pump tube?

@P61guy61 4 года назад

Lantern Lab yes. Not the inlet to the valve that has the square brass shutoff valve but the larger threads on the outside of the valve body. I think it is 1/8x27 NPT but not sure. I’m ordering a 6” 1/8 NPT tap unless I hear otherwise. We shall see.

@Mixwell1983 6 лет назад

Hey on my 220e one of the "collars" where the mantles tie to falls off when heated. Any ideas how to resolve this? Been looking a high temp thread locker but they max at 500f. Theres a metalic based good up to 2400f by jbweld. What route would you take to resolve it? Im on the mindset of some exhaust manifold sealant/locker if they sell such a thing. Other than that no idea how to go about it. Any input is appreciated.

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

Clean it really well then find a piece of rod thats slightly too large to go into the tube, grind a taper on the rod. Heat the tube and quench it a couple times which will make it go soft. Then with it hot (but not red) gently persuade it onto the taper, the idea is to enlarge the tube ever so slightly. If the threads are buggered you might want to touch them up slightly with a needle file first. Fortunately burner tubes and caps for a 220E a pretty easy to get if you need a replacement.

@Mixwell1983 6 лет назад

Lantern Lab thanks for the quick reply. If I cant find a rod thatll work ill see about getting new caps or perhaps take a cap from another 220 i have and see if it will work. Then i can see if its the tube or cap and replace the part(s) accordingly.

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

You might drop Mike at Old Coleman parts a note too, he's got some on the website, he can probably fix you up. You might not need a rod, a piece of hard wood might do the job too...

@birdman1174 4 года назад

I was taking my lantern apart and found that it is missing the 7/16 nut that holds the generator in place. Where can i find this nut?

@LanternLabs 4 года назад

Send an email to Mike at OldColemanParts.com

@patk1168 3 года назад

Great instructional video! Question....I am repairing a 1982 220k. New pump, new generator, air tubes are clear, tank holds pressure, all looks great. However, when I try to light it, I hear hissing from the generator, but the mantles will not light. I noticed also, the hissing fades pretty quickly, about 30 sec. Any ideas?

@LanternLabs 3 года назад

Fuel/Air tube. Very common problem, remove it, clean it, blow it out good and reinstall.

@patk1168 3 года назад

God bless you! I'll try it.

@btj340 8 лет назад

Great video. I was wondering what the ratio is for the citric acid solution. citric acid:water. Thanks for the helpful video.

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

I don't think you can really go wrong. I've heard of folks using as little as 1 tablespoon of crystals per gallon of water, I use closer to 5. Heat the water so the citric acid will dissolve better. Hot citric acid works faster but I'm not in a hurry and I'm prone to forgetting things...

@btj340 8 лет назад

Thanks.

@Mixwell1983 6 лет назад

Hey bud i was lighting my 200a and had a friend come by sayingi think i have a gas lantern. Brought it by and was a 220e. Long story short i checked for pressure etc and went to crack the valve and it was stuck. Tried pliers and sheared off the notched part that the handle slides into. Do i have to replace the whole valve body f/a or what? He gave it to me and it's clean but he's like its yours nobody uses it so i have a free 220e made in 57. Where the valve had the packing nut can i just remove that and install a new piece?

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

Yup, shouldn't be too hard to get another. If Old Coleman parts doesn't have one ask on one of the various forums or Facebook groups.

@Mixwell1983 6 лет назад

Lantern Lab thanks! Found a link to it on ocp so I'll have to order it.

@louismar699 4 года назад

Very nice video. But it would be better to have it all done in close ups like the last part .

@dennisgadd766 6 лет назад

I've got a 2/'84 321C Easi-lite (in mint condition) that won't light. Holds pressure and only air comes out. Have you ever done a video on this type of lantern.

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

I haven't. I have a 321 but its never had any problems. Looking online I see it uses a system very similar to the 275 which I do have a video on. The knob part is different but the schrader valve is the same. Plan on also replacing the o-ring on the shaft for the knob, Old Coleman Parts has the o-ring and the schrader valve.

@millbankbagsusa2037 5 лет назад

I have a 1954 double also but do not know how to tell which model it is, could you tell me. Thanks

@LanternLabs 5 лет назад

Coleman lanterns have a model number stamped on the collar, often it's hard to read. A small top would be a 220, big top is a 228.

@oscarhammer9917 4 года назад

I didn't see you put the check valve back in the pump. Do you do that in another video?

@LanternLabs 4 года назад

Installation is the opposite of removal. Righty tighty. It doesn't need to be more than snug.

@barryz1969 6 лет назад

Thanks for the informative tutorial! With your help I have just finished rebuilding my 220E and it works great now. On mine, the fuel/air tube was cracked at the point where it screws into the valve and I replaced it. Have you ever seen that?

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

I haven't but I'm not super surprised, I've heard of the FA tube cracking.

@barryz1969 6 лет назад

While i have your ear, can you make a recommendation for a particular brand of hunter green for the fount?

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

Depends on the exact year, there were a couple different ones. For the darker green I like dark hunter green krylon. I like how krylon flows better than Rustolum although since I've started heating the can in warm water there might not be much difference. I didn't paint anything this year.

@barryz1969 6 лет назад

I have a 1965 426D stove on the bench in the shop now. I needs a complete repaint because...well...I live too close to Portland, Oregon, lol. Someone shot it red without even washing the stove, the lid is silver. Gonna make an electrolysis tank on tuesday to strip it.

@barryz1969 6 лет назад

Oh yeah, lol...the 220E is from '58, dark krylon hunter green seems to be the consensus .... gonna order some.

@bradhuston9198 5 лет назад

How do I know what I have? Dual mantle with the # 3 first then a 8, I think its March 1958 but not for sure.

@LanternLabs 5 лет назад

It depends on the lantern I think, sometimes the month is on the left, sometimes the year. The Coleman Collectors book from the ICCC decodes by telling you the production run of each model.

@tigertank06 8 лет назад

So I recently got a 1966 220E/F(it says both on the bottom of tank) and I want to use it but the pump cap wiggles. Also, the inside of the tank cap is green and the tip cleaner lever is difficult to turn. Would just replace the fuel pump and generator be short term solutions to having it run or would I have to dissemble it, clean it out, maybe replace some things, and reassemble?

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

The pump isn't exactly a precision device. I presume you mean the cap that holds the pump in place, its retained by just a spring wire so some movement there is normal. I find most lanterns I buy work just fine, even with the generator they came with...

@tigertank06 8 лет назад

Lantern Lab Yeah, the cap that holds the pump in place is what I meant. Maybe I'll just drain whatever is in the tank first and then fire it up. Would the difficulty in turning the tip cleaner be of any concern?

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

Yes, don't force it or you'll end up like my 228E. Take the generator off and drip a little oil in there, see if that helps, you might drip some on the shaft of the tip cleaner too. If neither of those help pull the tip cleaner and investigate further. Actually as I think of it you might loosen the packing on the tip cleaner just slightly and see if that helps. If you do loosen it keep an eye on it for leaks.

@bighornsheep09 6 лет назад

I just replaced the check valve on my 228F but now I can't get the lantern to light without opening the fuel value all the way. The lantern was working properly before the check valve replacement. Any suggestions?

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

FA rod is stuck or the tube itself is dirty, classic case. Pull it out, soak it in acid or an ultrasonic cleaner and blow it out good.

@bighornsheep09 6 лет назад

I will try that and let you if that fixes my issue. FA is what again? Thank you for the great videos.

@bighornsheep09 6 лет назад

I also replaced the generator.

@shanek6582 3 года назад

Do you have to keep pumping them up after they’re burning for a while to keep pressure up or once it gets hot, does it somehow pull a vacuum? Thanks. I just bought a nice one made in 1967 but I need to order some mantles before I can play with it. I remember camping with dad when I was a kid, he had one but I don’t remember him pumping it up, thanks a million.

@LanternLabs 3 года назад

You will have to repump after awhile. As the fuel gets used up the airspace gets larger and needs to be filled.

@shanek6582 3 года назад

@@LanternLabs thanks man for answering. Subbed!

@chosenforareason4727 8 лет назад

Hi Lantern Dude. What area are you in and since I tend to be able to take things apart, but not so good at putting them together again, can I send you two nice lanterns for service ?

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

I'm in New England. I'd be glad to talk it over with you if you want, PM me.

@bigstick5278 7 лет назад

The issue I am having with one of mine is the valve turns stiff and it works on and off flares up then it starts working. My guess is the valve in the tank is crapped up. Time for a harbor freight impact driver..

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

A little flare when they start is normal, maybe add a little seafoam gas additive to a couple tanks. A cap-full is plenty, don't get crazy. Sometimes a drop of oil on the valve stem will help loosen a sticky or stiff valve. Otherwise maybe loosen the nut on the backing. Loosen it very slightly, 1/16 turn or less. If it leaks tighten it back up...

@EANSProductions 8 лет назад

Question about the Canadian lanterns.. I don't know if you've worked on them much, or at all.. But I've had this problem with both a 335 and a 625 so far. I take the F/A tube out since fuel is not passing, but I cannot disassemble the F/A tube (I can't unscrew it to reveal the spring- it seems to be all one piece). Any suggestions? Actually, heck, if you have any Canadian lanterns, you should do a repair vid! Like a 321 or something, which often has O ring problems. Anyway, thanks, and nice vid!

@EANSProductions 8 лет назад

+EANSProductions (Edit: Right after posting that comment, I saw your video where you light a 335)

@LanternLabs 8 лет назад

+EANSProductions I've got 3 Canadian lanterns, the 335, a 321b and a 621. I know I've had the 335 apart but can't really remember it. I *think* you need to use pliers on the FA tube because it has no flats. I had to replace the o-ring on the 621 last summer due to fire behind the valve knob. I'll add an o-ring replacement video to the list!

@neilolif 4 года назад

Do you know how SHARP those cleaner rods are? I found out, just as I impaled 1 1/4 inches of my second thumb joint with mine. Oddly enough, it only hurt for a second.., It didn't go through. And being only 0.8 mm in diameter it hardly left a mark. SURPRISE!!!!!!

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

question for ya please sir? what do you use to clean-out the end tip part of a generator orifice? i have a generator on a 275 lantern (same gen as a 220 or 228) ... the wire tip of the needle is fine (not broken), but the orifice hole is stopped up. you can'r blow air through the orifice. the orifice hole is stopped-up (obstructed) with something. i attempted using a torch top cleaner tool, but it wouldn't work because the orifice hole is way smaller than the smallest torch tip cleaning rod/tool. do you have a secret? that's all that's wrong... the orifice is stopped-up - the generator is fine other than the orifice being stopped-up and the wire tip of the generator needle is fine too. thank you, martina

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

i meant, "torch tip cleaner tool".

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Heat it and let it cool, might break up whatever the schmoo is. Very gently poke it with the tip cleaner. Soak in a mild acid like vinegar might help too.

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

i'll give all of that try. i'm looking at a metal wire bread tie.... i might try that, too? thanks

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

To get something thin enough you're going to need piano wire. Maybe a thin guitar string? I doubt theres a carb cleaning rod small enough.

@martinadejaquiz2482 7 лет назад

small "E" string on a guitar..... excellent idea... i have some of those!!!! thanks much!!!!!

@stuntcardriver 8 лет назад

Rare two piece vent

@LDB008 3 года назад

Hello I noticed you have a market basket paper underneath your lantern are you local I am in Amesbury and have a small collection myself

@LanternLabs 3 года назад

I'm in Winchendon, we hosted the 2017 ICCC convention.

@RyanBuchmann 7 лет назад

Will a Coleman lantern work using denatured alcohol as fuel?

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Yes but. Alcohol has way less energy per volume so you'd need to have a much larger gas tip. Also alcohol doesn't release fumes like camp gas so you'd need to preheat. I remember that somebody on the Coleman Collectors forum did a bunch of experimenting some time ago, you could search on there if you're interested.

@Mattie1492 6 лет назад

Uh oh. Just say someone filed the generator hole in the air tube on a 220F-228F a little bigger because it seemed asymmetric, and it was really difficult to get the generator in there. Now the generator goes in easily, but there is clearly space between the generator and the air tube. Now, I know this area isn't sealed airtight, but I put the feather part of a feather duster next to this area, and opened the valve. The feather was definitely pulled towards the space between the generator and air tube. I did this feather test with an undefiled 220F-228F, and there was no such suction. It seems like this could create a bad incident, what with the possibility of igniting fuel getting dragged into the air tube?

@LanternLabs 6 лет назад

There is always a space there, I've never tested with a feather but I wouldn't be surprised to see what you describe. You can get a flame in that location if the lantern floods when lighting or if the airtube gets plugged but in normal operation i wouldn't worry about it. Give it a try and see what it does.

@Mattie1492 6 лет назад

Thanks!

@Mattie1492 6 лет назад

Works just fine now! Death to propane! Death to battery-powered flashlights made to look like lanterns! Yiyiyiyiyiyi!!!

@ChadTower 7 лет назад

Instead of the trick with the wrench, bent iron, and screwdriver bit you could just use a $5 right angle screwdriver.

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

Problem is that with a flathead screw you can't get at it half the time. You'd need two right angle screwdrivers with the heads offset 90 degrees.

@Martoha409 7 лет назад

maybe I'm missing something, but when you remove the cap( where the fuel goes in), do you have to loosen that little screw? mine doesn't want to come off. The cap looks like its caked with something. And what is the purpose of that little screw?

@LanternLabs 7 лет назад

You only have to remove the screw to get the insert inside the cap out, the cap should come off with the insert still inside. Sometimes the rubber gasket bonds to the filler neck so maybe taking out the screw and taking the outer cap off will work, you could then use a soft hammer to gently knock the inner bit off. See my fuel cap gasket video for more detailed information.

@Martoha409 7 лет назад

I found your video about the fuel cap gasket, thanks. Now could I use the fuel cap off a later model that doesn't have a screw on gasket. Thanks again for your info

@williamlee1429 6 лет назад

Just as a safety tip to everyone out there. Not checking to see if your Lantern has fuel in it or pressure in it is just like cleaning your firearm without checking to see if it's loaded or not.

@mikewood4378 5 лет назад

Great knowledge but you dont put your camera close enough to see what your doing.

@chivone21 5 лет назад

oh WTfrig, how am I going to take all this apart and clean it (of course it doesn't light) I don't have all those special tools to remove all that caked on rusted on grimed on nuts/screws and bolts! For $49 I can go out and buy a new one and save myself 400 years extra in purgatory for all the swear words I will invent!

@LanternLabs 5 лет назад

Check out my 275 video, I took that one apart with only a crescent wrench. I did need a 4way tool (less than $5) to remove the schrader valve.