Tip for anyone that has a PSA engine with Eloys tank.The engine ECU injects the Eloys/PAT fluid into the diesel fuel tank every time u put diesel into ur fuel tank.It doesnt matter how much diesel u add it still pumps the same amount of Eloys into with the diesel.it knows ur adding diesel because the filler cap has magnets and the magnets engage a switch.So to make ur Eloys/PAT last longer run ur fuel tank to low and fill it up to the full.By only putting in 20-30 quid here and there u are injecting the Eloys fluid every time u remove the fuel tank filler cap. So its not goung to last as long. Thats the way the older Eloy/PAT systems worked anyway.not sure if its now different with the addition of the Ad Blue systems.
I believe that's only true on the oldest PSA cars, the ones which used DPX42. 176, Powerflex and onwards were duty cycled to how much fuel. However no system is perfect and it most likely overdoses, so empty > full will always use the least amount. Considering how much the stuff costs... it doesn't really matter anyway.
@@khalidacosta7133 These do indeed measure the fuel tank contents before and after the cap switch is triggered and inject the appropriate amount of Eolys into the tank, rather than a fixed amount as before..
So there;s "AD Blue" and "Eolys" I haven't heard of this here in New Zealand before other than "Ad Blue" . I presume this is to meet Euro 6 standards. Thanks for another helpful video Jimmy.
Peugeot/Citroen have been fitting this since about 2003. It’s actually a fairly straightforward system, they just chose to make it complicated by not allowing the owner to top it up. 😬
Do I need to select and run the "Priming Of The Additive Adding Circuit" as well if the eolys tank has been completely emptied? I guess it would be a good idea? I have Diagbox 9.68 for my 2016 Berlingo Multispace BlueHDi Thank you for all your good and helpful videos
@@ClassicTrialsChannel I drive Benz E300 cdi. No adblue. Last model without adblue. 2014 ! Currently 18200Km on the odometer. I don't drive it frequently. On the job i have sprinters 2014-2019 V6 CDI amazing engines. We had peugeot partners but we have sold them after 50000Km. No problems with Peugeot at all. All stock no adblue.Inshallah
I found the amount of fluid used confusing. On the scan tool before adding additive the reading was 698ml approx and after filling it was 1198ml, indicating approx 500ml required to refill the tank but you indicated that you added 2, one litre bottles & some from a third bottle?
@@ORileysAutos It's a software glitch. Pretty much all aftermarket diag tools have this issue. It does not matter in this case because the car systems knows they tank capacity is 3 ltrs but the launch tool is reading it incorrectly. It's worth bearing this in mind when using non OEM diagnostic tools because this problem can come up in any area of the diagnostic software. The lesson is that once you have found what you think is a fault/problem, you need to find another way of confirming the fault through other methods especially when the replacement parts are expensive and or time consuming to fit. Great video as always
@@abdulaiabdurahmani2913 but it's perfectly ok for poor old guys like Jimmy having to do it all the time. Makes no sense really. Just design it so that it has a flexi filler tube that can't leak or something. I dunno I'm not a designer :D
Sometimes a mfr puts a vehicle on the road with unnecessary complications. They think they’re being smart because it’ll generate work for the dealer. In practice they’re being stupid, because the vehicles quickly gain a reputation as having issues & their residual value drops like a stone.
There is video (you can look it up yourselves on his channel) where he is showing a citroen c4 grand picasso from 2015(?) that uses both systems and he is topping them both up. So yes, it's also for EURO 6 systems. Don't actually know why as other manufactures don't have a eloys thank, only adblue. Typical French, always complicating things 😅.
I had a 2008 focus 2.0tdci, and it cost a fortune (£350/400 if i remember correct) to get "dpf" fluid topped up at a ford dealer. Is this the same stuff?
Yep, Eolys 176, genuine pug 3 litre refill kit is about £120. Reprogramming takes about 15 minutes and can be done WHILE refilling, which takes about 20-30 minutes. Rip off these dealers.
Tried this, but I couldn't get it to Release from the Lugs, thought i'd try and Fill it while it was still Fitted, that didn't work, Glad it Didn't because I Found a Much Easier way to do this, the 4 White Spring Loaded Screws holding the Casing, just release them and that Splits the Outer Casing, A Lot Easier than Faffing Around, When I did Split the Casing I found that the Bag was in Bits and Pieces and Obviously Empty so I'm Glad that I didn't Fill it in Place or Get it to Drop from the Lugs otherwise I would have Wasted a Litre of Fluid. Going to Order a Bag Online on Monday, Pity you can't Just Order Empty Bags.
I took the back wheel off, you can then reach the filling hose (fairly) easily. The presence of the filling hose suggests to me that it's designed to be done in-situ.
I had exactly the same experience. Visited two different garages, one using snap-on, the other using Autel. Both were unable to reset the additive tank. In the end a local diagbox user cleared the codes for me. Can you recommend an affordable diagnostic tool (possibly less than £500) for a DIY enthusiast to be able to reset the additive tank and associated codes at home as shown in this video please?
How does the computer give the level of fluid in tank is it a calculation or some sort of sensor?? Just curious as i know someone who had a dreaded forced regen on a volvo s40 and the additive tank is showing full on live data but i know the fluid hasnt been refilled . Believe this to be reason dpf is clogging
Calculated. Happened to my car actually. DPF struggles to regen. Previous owner must have only used 2 litres instead of 3 (as seen in video, diag tool doesn't let you select amount). Refilled and engine runs better than ever now.
There is indeed an ultrasonic sensor in the tank that measures the level on this system. Previously where a fixed amount was injected each time, the ECU just guesstimated it.
Hi, good video. I have a Peugeot partner 1.6HDi 2015 plate. It has done 42k miles. Today I saw a small but substantial pool of reddish brown oil beneath this plastic box located on the underside of the floor just inside the side sill, behind rear sliding offside drivers side door. It was dripping quite a lot. It must have let out something like 500ml already, but there isn't an engine management warning light displayed on the dash board. Has some thing broken or a pipe cracked for it to leak or is something blocked inside and forcing the oil out causing it to leak? I haven't looked at it yet as I did not know what it is. Figured out what it could be by a process of elimination. I have a fairly good Citroen dealer near me in St. Ives. What are they likely to charge to fix what ever is wrong and replace the fluid and recalibrate? How much would you charge to sort it for me? I could drive down to Bedford way providing the car makes it. I have driven it about 90 miles driving at 70-80mph for most of this since the leaking started this morning with no apparent ill effects, yet. Could I like you do it myself although I don't have an error code reader like yours to recalibrate which looks like one a dealer would have. I have a very very basic £30 hand held one the size of a small calculator which I don't think would be any good. Advice needed. Many thanks.
Hello there. Have got a solution please, I have a similar problem and it happened almost as you described yours, except that this small tank on my Peugeot 5008 , 2014 is almost 30 centimetres from the rear wheel. It leaked over night and i realised that i must have run over some rocky surface. And, no Error has shown on the screen, and I have no idea what this brown-red oil/liquid is, or what it does.
@@makanakamaenzanise3602 It is the FAP Eloyse oil reservoir for emissions Euro 6 vehicles. A small amount of this oil is injected into the diesel fuel every time you time you fill up with diesel. I too reckon something must have hit this tank as I was driving as one of the plastic mouldings is cracked probably from impact. So I had to replace it and the oil which cost me £235 in total. I bought a genuine Peugeot new tank and replacement oil from Ebay. Peugeot dealer wanted £670 to replace the tank and refill with oil. A diagnostic to read and clear the error code which subsequently appeared on the dash would be an additional £140. I still have an error code stating engine fault have the vehicle repaired on my dashboard but I buy a code reader for about £300, recallibrate the FAP reservoir as full, then erase the error code.
I can't speak about the leakage, but what I can say is that a ECU has been programmed to only show a message on the dash after it triggers because of some parameters. If those parameters hasn't hit, the ECU doesn't see any issue. About the ELOYS tank: what the ECU only knows (and has been programmed to say) is what (calculated) amount has been sprayed in the DPF, how much (calculated) amount is still left in the Tank and if it is empty (because when it tries to spray, nothing comes out, it "feels" this). That's it. When you loose a certain amount because of a leak, these systems don't know that. They only will trigger, if after some time you keep on driving like this, when the tank if completely empty as it tries to spray, but nothing comes out, then you get a warning. Then just add some fluid, reset it and keep on driving, nothing wrong. You will only irritate other people as there is still a leakage ;-)
Apart from the eloy fluid, wait till the nox sensor fails £600 then the pump will go with it another £750 stay well clear of these adblue vans, ive just sold my puegeot partner today pleased its gone
@@tonyc1167: can I ask pal, currently having problems with my Peugeot Partner now needing a Eolys refill. Wasn’t sure if it was the adblue or this so I put about 5 litres of Adblue in (didn’t want to overfill it in case it wasn’t) and the warning light still hasn’t come off so I’m guessing it’s the Eolys How much is a refill and where is the best place to have it done? Will any local garage have access to the fluid or am I having to go to a dealership. Haven’t been able to find much out there apart from a dealership wanting to charge me £150 a hour for a diagnostic check
@@Rockstar-bq5fm be very aware of these adblue peugeot vans, the dpf system failure is very common but very costly, cost me £260 to refill the eloy fluid at a local garage, but it did nothing. If you still have problems after you refill the eloy fluid, strongly take this advice get the van remapped as it will bypass the dpf and the van will be fine or waste thousands putting in a new system and a Nox sensor or save your money and time now and sell it. I'll never get another adblue van there money pits and local garages just try ripping you off and don't have much knowledge on them.
@@tonyc1167: thanks so much for the reply bud. I already have had the Nox sensor fixed a month ago (£450 and the part itself was £330) and now the fault is supposedly “low fuel additive” Incredibly frustrating, I’m having to invest near a £1000 extra into silly repairs, I’d of been better to invest it into a better model of Van. So annoying
Even though this is going to sound critical,I don't ask in that intention- is it a European thing to call nuts,bolts? I had this same question years ago with bodgit and legit who I have little respect for after his reply.
@@googies12a I would argue that they are not interchangeable since they are distinctly different items,but if you are taught differently it explains things
