if you're concerned with asbestos, realize that the particles of asbestos would remain for a long time in the air after you removed the flooring. The respirator gives you immediate protection but the fibers could remain airborne or on your clothing for days... test first if you suspect asbestos. Then take proper steps (PPE, filtration etc.) to protect yourselves and family members.
This was SO helpful! Struggled for 2 days trying to remove the adhesive on my kitchen floor. After watching this video, I applied boiling waters to the floor and covered with towels to keep in the moisture and heat. After 15-20 minutes, it came off with a scraper very easily! What would have taken a week, will now be done today.
bruh i just came from a video where the dude was like "if the glues not coming up very easily, sometimes its easier to just cut into the top layer of subfloor and remove that" i was not at all about that sh**. Hot water and a towel? can do!! @@JonnyDIY
Ohh mann, sorry to hear. Can be tough removing especially with concrete foundations. I would say just lay another layer on top. I think this floor had 3 layers of vinyl flooring hah
About to be a professional, thank you!! I just bought a house and I'm doing this same thing to my kitchen 😂 removing vinyl and putting in a nicer tile.
Lol. No first video. Vinyl flooring was about 15 years old I believe. Guessing the vinyl glue had lost its grab. It still took a lot of pulling but if you got a good chunk started it wasn't too bad 👍🏻
@@JonnyDIY LOL. I thought all night long, dang, that was the happiest person I have ever seen that had to rip up a vinyl floor. haha. Have a good one and be safe out there!
Just started working on ours. It is brittle and breaking off. Sadly a flooring store owner did this floor and they did not even cut the edges off near the base cabinets. Rolled up agains the cabinets. It is directly on concrete. Doing mask just because of the dust. This flooring is pretty thin and going to have to do lot of scrapping after getting floor up. Some sections came up in longer pieces. We are doing a kitchen remodel and good part of the work we are doing to keep the costs down. If anyone has any suggestions, let me know. We went on to another projects. Now back to get this done. It is coming up in small (maybe 4 inch chunks) pieces. Tried soaking sections with water over night to get an edge to work under in spots. Slow process. Also this flooring is probably 40+ years old and very thin. Vinyl sheet. They also went nuts with wallpaper--3 layers and later found 2 additional styles behind a cabinet. No backs on any cabinets. Found all the wrong things they did. It will be nice once complete.
whoever built my last house went crazy while installing the kitchen floor and we only learned about it because we renovated the house before selling. Pulled up the laminate and the under part had been stapled in about a bazillion times. Honestly there was probably about 35 of these thin little staples per 2 square inches. Everybody got a turn going at the staples, I got there late and I still got myself a two foot spot where most of the staples had been removed, but I had to take out like 200. I have no idea how anybody installs something like that. Somewhere along the lines, as they're sending in their 50th staple while sitting in the same spot on the floor, you'd think they'd think to themself "there's gotta be a better way".
@@aphysique best rate is to get whoevers installing to pull it out. And not sure about price. Different areas, different rates. It'll really all depend on time and how stubborn your vinyl is to pull up and remove
@@aphysique ohh no you should be able to find someone to come rip it out cheaper that that. Depending how stuck on it is I'd say 2 guys could pull it all out in a couple hours. 500-1000 more like it. Call around
I have flipped 13 homes all up and down the West Coast. NEVER put water or a soaked towel on your sub floor. It can cause warping, rot and damage making the sub floor uneven and you unable to put tile or hardwoods down and make it level. Get a 5" floor scraper which is a razor edge. AND ONE LAST FACT: what you think the hot wet towel is removing isn’t glue at all. It’s the usually tan or gray paper backing to the one piece linoleum flooring left behind when you pull it up. GLUE FOR FLOORS IS NOT WATER SOLUBLE. IT IS CONSTRUCTION GLUE and waterproof.
Helpful video. I've got vinyl in the basement that I'm considering replacing. Hopefully it comes up as easy from the concrete subfloor. Nice shirt. Go Stros!
Not too bad. A lot easier than it used to be. Now that vinyl is a lot softer and pliable. Just make a rough cut first and take your time making final cut (make sure you have plenty sharp blades). And just like hair you can always cut more, but you cant add it back after you cut it. So really visualize cuts. Draw shape out on paper youre going to cut. That helps visualize
@@JonnyDIY I’ve been scraping old glue by hand with a putty knife. Just finished following your instructions on getting it wet and soak it overnight. Your a lifesaver!
Johnny, I do have an older linoleum floor (pre 80s) and a respirator. Do I have to worry about lingering asbestos in the air or on surfaces after I pull up the floor? The floor is on concrete. Thanks
Theres really no way of knowing if it has asbestos being that age unless you have it tested. Can get information on that from municipal hazardous waste facilty. I would mask off the area with plastic to contain air to that space so as to not spread across house
Gosh. Wish ours was pulling up that easy. What with the difficulty, and not knowing if there's asbestos in it, and the fact that where an island used to be the subfloor is at the height of the linoleum, we're just going to do laminate over the whole mess. Down the road when we have money to hire a pro we'll do it right but for now it's gotta be quick, cheap and easy -- just like my wedding night.
Thanks Jonny! Question for you.. I'm about to install those new popular vinyl planks all through my house. I've got to smash the tile in the kitchen. Under that is a layer of vinyl. Do you think I should keep the vinyl as a moister barrier or rip it up? The vinyl plank are supposed to be moisture resistant. Thanks!
@@JonnyDIY I just wanted to follow up on this. I removed the tile. The vinyl was there, but had hundreds of nails in it due to the cement board. After a few hours of pulling out the nails, I knew the vinyl wasnt any good. When I pulled it up, I found that half of the subflooring underneath was rotten. Apparently the vinyl trapped moisture inside. Didnt help that I had insulation under the house. I ended up ripping out half of the subflooring and replacing it with new plywood. Glad I ripped up the tile or I would have never known.
@@KentsGarageGym wow can of worms! Projects always seem to snowball dont they. Well Im glad you found that out and put some new sturdy plywood in. Feels good when you fix something like that 👍🏻
mine was glued (liberally!) to some underfloor hardboard.. after trying a heatgun I had to use a multitool to do it. Peeling back by hand was a no-go due to the amount of glue used unfortunately
If the baseboards were run over top of flooring usually yes. You can try removing a section of flooring by baseboard and see if you're able to pull it out from underneath the baseboard. If theres caulking between floor and baseboards score that with utility knife first
You should be able to pull it out now thinking about it. Whether or not new flooring will fit under baseboards is something else. A lot of times you can just add some quarter round trim or base shoe molding to cover new gap between the flooring and baseboards
Not bad bud but, you might want to think about also removing the dishwasher if you plan on putting down tile. If not, home owners will have a tough time trying to replace it now that tile is down since you have little up movement from the counter top on top of the dishwasher...just a thought. 😉
Thanks Chuck, good point. I actually replaced dishwasher and ended up putting new vinyl in. Yes you wouldn't want to tile around it if tile was so high you couldnt remove it later if need be 👍🏻
I want to take the carpet out and lay laminate or cork flooring and have a good underlay to protect from the very cold cement. Not sure if damp comes from it. It's surely very very cold. However, when I lifted the carpet I found old linoleum in parts of the flat. I started removing it but it's such a big job. With a steam machine, it was much harder than what this video shows. It doesn't seem right to me to lay a new floor on top of old plastic. Doesn't the cement need to breathe?
@@JonnyDIY thank you. I find it so odd that that can actually be done. It doesn't feel right to me. But I hear you. I suppose I have to get used to that idea.
@@ninunife5242 it's completely fine to go over it as long as it's stable and not some old stuff thats crumbling apart. I usually remove it if it's not too bad or if I need the height
I just started pulling up individual square tile in kitchen and it's plyboard, very sticky adhesive, can I just lay new tiles down with more new adhesive? Do you have to take old adhesive off?
@@JonnyDIY wow. Thanks for answering, I honestly didn't expect that! I'm SO glad to know I don't have to kill myself to put down some new stuff, im not exactly young, and definitely broke, ha ha. Thanks
Where I live, you always have the floor tested for asbestos first. If tested positive, then you need a full abatement of that area. I would never just assume the floor may have asbestos, if there was asbestos in the flooring, you now have compromised the entire house. Protect yourself and your clients.
He puts a mask on but doesn't protect any of the kitchen. There is even dishes in the sink. Do you think the dust and crap is getting in the cabinets and on every surface of the counter tops? yes. That's where the home owner prepares food.
Oh if only. The vinyl I’m trying to lift is really glued down. So far has resisted everything, heat gun, scrapers. Literally can only manage an inch or two at a time and that is really hard work.
@UCZZYKB60edjrNmA1lE57Wxw Yes I saw that too. I had that idea in reserve but was worried the shear amount would kill my saw. So I persevered, working with my son, we cut the vinyl into 4” strips, then one scraped as the other pulled. Hard work but we got it all up in the end. Took about five hours in the end - sore hands but a good exercise workout. Intrigued by what the flooring installer told me when he came to latex the floor - he said that he would have just hired a vinyl lifting machine - intrigued as to what one of those is.
@@nheather Glad you two were able to get it all done. That's great. Ohh yeah its like a big scraper kinda machine thing. Ive never used one. I imagine it would make fast work of big jobs though. Hope the replacement floor comes out looking great for you 👍
@@JonnyDIY looks great with the latex down. The flooring will go down in two weeks time. Cutting the vinyl into 4” strips was essential. Any wider and the grab from the adhesive was just too much to overcome by me
My linoleum is glued down to my terrazzo. I want to keep the terrazzo in tact but it's been a pain. I've been using a heat gun and only have a small patch done.
Depends what kind of foundation. If you have wood foundation you'll probably find wood subfloor or underlayment. If concrete foundation youll find just the concrete floor. You may also find previous flooring as well. And also you'll probably find the vinyl flooring glue underneath
@@susanlaney4513 if going over it with new vinyl? You want to remove as much as possible and get floor smooth with no humps and bumps. Then you could go over it, even if some residue left over 👍
You're most likely OK as most stopped using around late 70s, but if you're in doubt you can always get a test kit and it'll give you results right away 👍
No you should be fine. But if you have any sort of dust mask aleays good idea to wear. Only need to replace subfloor if wood is wavy or bubbled. Put fans and cat litter on it to dry it out fully before putting any flooring back over it 👍🏻
@@JonnyDIY I only see a raised tile sheet in a square foot area...I am concern it may have mold down there..I thought as long as it's wet we have to replace it entirely since it's lose its support due to moisture
Particle board or osb "chip board" looks like a bunch of little pieces of wood glued together or even sawdust glued together. Plywood looks like wood with long wood grains and visible knots and such 👍🏻
It involves cutting out sections and prying up nails or screws. Then laying down new plywood. Screw and use construction glue to prevent squeaks. Here's a video I did removing underlayment which is same process ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vEZsQtlOj0Y.html
@@JonnyDIY ill watch it either during a break or after work! My dishwasher sprang a Horrible leak 1 night and just dowsed the floor, this was like 4 years ago. Now that I'm sober I'm gonna get it all repaired and replaced soon
Johnny, what do you think about putting floating laminate wood flooring over existing vinyl/linoleum flooring in a kitchen? No gouges or anything, just old and ugly. The laminate I have has padding attached under it, but I also bought the Pergo Gold underlayment . Use it or not?
Laid top layer over initial asbestos layer would be my guess. Lot of panic in late 80s early 90s and people would rather lay over than disturb the fibres. .
I see u are wearing a respirator, but dont you think it would be smarter to have the flooring tested first, incase it does contain abspestos? I would think that u wouldnt want that stuff airborne. I have always heard that you shouldnt cut it or mess with it for that reason.
Correct, mine didn't havd asbestos I was just wearing for dust. When in doubt should have tested and not disturb in mean time. That or go over top of it and encase it
@@JonnyDIY I'm assuming the grey liquid is the adhesive. I just lifted the WHOLE floor up and it's wet. You think I should cut it out for the sake of it drying? Thanks
@@johnnykurplutzo6789 if its plywood you can put fans on it and dry it out, once dry you'll be able to tell if its weakened by the moisture. Then replace sections as necessary
@@JonnyDIY thanks for the reply. I'm gonna cut all of it out because I just lifted the whole thing up because it's that bad. I wish I saw your vid first 👀
Maybe tell your viewers to test that linoleum for asbestos before beginning If what you just scraped up was asbestos, then that area would now be contaminated.
1:27 This is seriously how my floor looks WITH vinyl. Landlords use this cheap garbage because it yellows over years and they can then blame you and keep your deposit. Vinyl is cheap for a reason. its garbage that doesnt hold up. You need 14 rugs down to cover the floor then they come and go "what happened here, what did you do ??"
Easy is a relative term 🤣 Was easy for me, but may be harder for others. Really depends on the age/type of vinyl/linoleum and the kind of adhesive that was used originally
@@MrJaybeezy123 it's always a possibility. I try to pass the precautionary measures on to the viewers. I have come across asbestos in flooring before. Stay safe 👍🏻
@@JonnyDIY thank. Do you think you could tell when a certain vinyl was made by how it looks (style, etc). Also, will a 3m p100 respirator really protect? It's the one with the cartridges that protect against organic vapor/particulates. The bigger bulky pink cap ones. Thanks again!