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How to Replace bubbling sail panel or Top Trans Am Firebird Camaro 

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How to Replace bubbling sail panel or Top Trans Am Firebird Camaro
This is the method I used to replace the top on my Trans Am. This bugged me from the day I bought the car. This car was in great shape other than the top. I decided to replace with a stock one sourced from another car. This was due to fitment issue with aftermarket ones. This does not in anyway mean you can't make them fit.
This is something that can be done in a driveway or garage. It does help to have 2 people when putting the new top on.
Products used and links
Urethane goo.gl/mkQL9B
Primer goo.gl/ZthkFj
Adhesion promoter goo.gl/1oJrB9
Corner Trim goo.gl/sF7bBk
2 Sided tape goo.gl/5hsKHU
Aftermarket top if desired 6ledesigns.com/...
Link to GM Service Tech Sheet - ls1tech.com/fo...
Cost of this project(May differ in your area based on body shop)
Top from Salvage Yard - $100
Cost to have top skinned off, epoxy primed(both sides) and painted - $300
Urethane(2 tubes) - $35
Primer - $25
Adhesion Promoter - $9
Corner trim - $55
2 Sided tape - $8 X 2 = $16
Total Cost - ~$540
Disclaimer:This video and description contains affiliate links, which means if you click on a product link, I'll receive a small commission.

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@BlackLS1Pontiac
@BlackLS1Pontiac 5 лет назад
Replaced mine years ago. I remember the day I went to meet up with a buddy for a cruise and after walking outside mine had all bubbled up at once. Boy was I pissed!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Yeah that would suck. I had that same thing happen after a repaint on an old camaro I had. I was sick about it. Painted it again and same thing. Live and learn though. Should have just replaced like this one.
@jameswood678
@jameswood678 6 лет назад
Wow! This video is absolute GOLD. I was not aware of this problem. I have a red 2002 SS 35th that I adore; it's practically the same as your fine T/A but with different window dressing. I was not aware of this problem until I saw your video, then of course read about it on "the forums." My car doesn't show the bubbling, but since one never knows, I just ordered a replacement sail panel from 6LE. I'm going to have it epoxy-primed and then painted to match, then return it to the shipping box for the future when this inevitably happens to my car. I love GM cars, but here "GM Strikes Again!!!" I didn't know about 6LE's stuff until you mentioned it. Please keep up with the F-body stuff; your videos are full of good F-body information, and quite unique on all of RU-vid. Subscribed! :)
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
James Wood thank you for that. Maybe you won't have an issue. Sunlight seems to speed up the process.
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
I replaced mine with a new one from Magg Performance but damn it wasn’t cheap. The panel itself was $575! But it fit perfectly and now I don’t have anymore bubbles either! I can’t imagine the patients it takes to get one off in one piece to reuse. This one turned out great! Nice video.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you. Yeah sometimes the aftermarket fits good and some have said it didn't. Luckily I had access to a used one.
@brentvonlehmden3460
@brentvonlehmden3460 3 года назад
Thanks Will Ferrell,,,,, Ha ha .... That video was so much help..... Your TA is soooo sweet
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
Thank you. I hear that a lot
@russellsmith859
@russellsmith859 5 лет назад
Clean ass T/A. I have a 02 silver WS6. My panels are good for now. Great vid. I did not kno that piece even comes off.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Thank you. Hopefully yours stays good. Lighter colors seem to have less issues.
@robertmurphy4836
@robertmurphy4836 3 года назад
I have a 02 Trans Am WS6 Performance Edition with the bubbled paint. Had no idea that piece was removable. Car looks great.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
Thank you. It's a pain but doable
@davevalmus9898
@davevalmus9898 6 лет назад
The glass cutting Sawzall attachments looks like the flat blade works wonders for removing that top you just have to remove the rear hatch I'm putting a driver side rear quarter on my WS6 1998
@MikeGDetailing
@MikeGDetailing 6 лет назад
Nicely done. I need to replace the top of my 02 SS. The red top looks great.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Mike G thank you. Let me know how it goes.
@papapmp04
@papapmp04 5 лет назад
It is the adhesive used on the newer ones that is the issue not the tops mostly from the heat and sun,it all ,needs to be completely removed and correct adhesive applied
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Correct, which is what I did. You can not reuse the old top however as the adhesive has penetrated the fiberglass.
@downbadmilflover
@downbadmilflover Год назад
The car looks WAY better with the red sail panel. It came out fantastic!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports Год назад
Thank you
@DarrenWS6
@DarrenWS6 6 лет назад
Very well done. Doesn't look half as bad as some folks have said. But still not super fun. Beautiful Trans Am! Love red. I have a silver 2000 ws6, luckily my sail panel is in great shape so far.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
DarrenWS6 hopefully you won't have an issue.
@chetwysocki1037
@chetwysocki1037 4 года назад
Nice Job dude! I just bought my replacement sail from Magg Performance. Can't wait to cure my 99 SS of the chicken pox.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you. Lol it is like a fbody disease.
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
I got mine from them too! Fits great!
@michaelcobb4814
@michaelcobb4814 2 года назад
Thank you and with your video here I was able to follow this method and use the same material and got my OEM top on. I I found a top of FB marketplace. Cut the top and methodically removed it from the car. Got it repainted. Worked out great.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
Awesome
@davidbrock3687
@davidbrock3687 6 лет назад
Just wanted to say nice to meet you. BTW it was your video I watched months back to remove my c6 door panels. Small world
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
David Brock nice to meet you too. That's funny!
@Craigslistseller845
@Craigslistseller845 6 лет назад
Great video. I’ll have to do this one day for sure. Car looks really good with the red panel
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Daniel Caragine thank you.
@1963bigdave
@1963bigdave 5 лет назад
man that looks like you cant save that old one,lot of work and yes the red looks way better
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Yeah the old one is no good. You can repaint multiple times and it will continue to bubble.
@firehawk97
@firehawk97 4 года назад
Glad I found your channel. So many videos on variety of upgrades that apply to my 1999 Trans Am. Back in the game!! Finally got one... first car was a 1995 Camaro. Feels good. Keep up the good work TWA Motorsports
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you. Good luck on your project
@vinceh.1028
@vinceh.1028 6 лет назад
Correct me if I'm wrong but I didn't think it had anything to do with the actual SMC top. It was the adhesive used by GM to adhere it to the car. It off gases through the panel. If I'm right you could have just used your top and resealed it back with the suggested adhesive. Is this not right?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Not really. Once the glue has come through you can't reuse it. It will continue to come through because you can get what's embedded in the old top out.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
@@turbojetpowered8299 new top fixes it. They are still making them but are not selling to the public. You go through a vendor.
@simonriddick
@simonriddick 2 года назад
Older video I know but great job. My car was a 98 so got lucky and never had to do this but know about it from the forums and stuff. I miss my ws6 big time but times change.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
They are fun cars
@sassr21
@sassr21 6 лет назад
I want the wheels you have in the background! Seriously. I have a set of speedlines on my 01 I’d rather have the older style WS6 wheels.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
sassr21 you don't want those. I bought them off a wreck car for hose reels. I agree though, they are a better looking wheel.
@TheRealJayBanks518
@TheRealJayBanks518 6 лет назад
How did u get the other one off the Donor car without breaking it
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
dbzsuperfan518 it takes a while with piano or window wire.
@ls1_cammeroh
@ls1_cammeroh 4 года назад
Did you have to heat the underside?
@anthonybatycki6626
@anthonybatycki6626 Год назад
nice video work good lighting.i will watch it again before i attempt mine. do you know what a shop would charge to install
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports Год назад
Probably a couple thousand
@superduty4556
@superduty4556 5 лет назад
2 things - My always garaged, ultra low mile CETA has bubbles in the top and the signs of door panel cracking. I think GM put all their money in making the LS and had nothing left for engineering or paying for decent materials from vendors.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Yeah I have seen super low mile cars with this issue as well. It sure sucks to see this on a nice car.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
@TA man Phil yeah. I hate that people spend the money to have the stock one repaired only to have it happen again. The door panel thing does suck.
@davidfusco6600
@davidfusco6600 3 года назад
The black top made it look like a camaro. T/A’s an firebirds are so much better looking with that piece painted body color!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
I do like the color top better
@keithfields1178
@keithfields1178 Год назад
Curious, the new triangle pieces near the back of the window. Absence of the lip wrap around, has it caused any wind whistle when driving? Also, water getting under the leading edge problems ever surface? Great video, and your presentation well thought out and presented. I spent some of my military career as a Aircraft Maintenance Instructor, and we had to build lesson plans and have them analyzed prior to teaching. Wonder, did you ever spend anytime as an instructor yourself? Good job, thanks.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports Год назад
I haven't driven it in the rain but no wind noise that I have noticed
@Yarikk734
@Yarikk734 4 года назад
Thanks for this man. Mine has started to bubble a bit in the center. I think Im going to go with a carbon fiber one on mine. I think it will go well with the silver on black i already have.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Glad it could help. Carbon would look good. I just hope it fits.
@wingstopcentreville6860
@wingstopcentreville6860 Год назад
Great job and video!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports Год назад
Thank you
@tommybrown4718
@tommybrown4718 5 лет назад
What are the little triangular pieces between that panel and your window called? I can’t find them anywhere. You remove them at 2:00
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
I actually listed a link in the video description under corner trim👍
@rickmarks7685
@rickmarks7685 5 лет назад
I know I have to do the same thing to my camaro as well my car also has Extreme low miles as well but I’m kinda scared to take it to just any body shop couse I’m afraid they might mess something up lol
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Yeah that sucks. Find a good shop you can trust. It may require more money but definitely worth it.
@kennethdefreitas6845
@kennethdefreitas6845 6 лет назад
Nice video I have the same car in black awesome cars man good luck
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Thank you
@phoenixblack1220
@phoenixblack1220 Год назад
Excellent work! Beautiful car!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports Год назад
Thank you
@were_all_mad_here8926
@were_all_mad_here8926 6 лет назад
Great job man. Makes me wonder how hard mine would be. I have a 98 z28 and my clear coat is peeling in the center. Other than that no bubbles but it’s an eyesore because the car is silver with the black panel.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
We're_all _mad_here honestly I would just have yours repainted if it is not bubbling. Late 98s did have this issue though.
@mikeb6033
@mikeb6033 6 лет назад
do you know when your car was built, if it was early 98 you should be fine, as TWA said, the bubbling didn't start until mid/late 98
@tomgeorge3023
@tomgeorge3023 5 лет назад
I had the same Car with Tan interior, WS6 6-speed,, Bought New in 2001 Sold in 2010 with only 7,600.miles, The guy I sold to still has it, And he only put a 1,000 miles on it . I Miss my Baby Girl ..):
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Sounds like a nice car! Maybe you can buy it back.
@jeffmccallum9059
@jeffmccallum9059 5 лет назад
Looks great. Have you seen the $1500 carbon fiber sail?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Thank you. Yeah I have seen that. Crazy high and not worth it to me. I have another car with a carbon fiber top to keep me happy. 👍
@firebird5288
@firebird5288 2 года назад
Great video. Alright, this may sound stupid/crazy, but seeing that there are holes in the pillar, I'm curious if it would be possible to fill that entire section, along with the T bar if it's hollow, with spray foam to give the car far more structure stability. I know it probably wouldn't be as strong as a roll bar, but everyone says how incredibly strong spray foam is when it comes to adding a lot of support to one's house...perhaps it may be applied here as well? 🤷‍♂️
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
Doubt foam would add much structure but guess you could
@patrickfischer8997
@patrickfischer8997 7 месяцев назад
I have a 2001 firebird and even the wing and trunk does start to bubble. Is that problem really caused by the glue? Or is it a kind of delamination? Anyone else have these problems? Thank you for the video, probably will help me with my Sailpanel.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 7 месяцев назад
Top is the only glue issue. Your issue is caused from paint neglect
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 6 лет назад
Good job looks way better
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
ceidy perez thank you
@HPICamaroSS
@HPICamaroSS 3 года назад
Awesome step by step video.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
Thank you
@f296877
@f296877 6 лет назад
Thanks! Great work.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
f296877 thanks for the comment
@paceta80
@paceta80 3 года назад
I have a '99 T/A, no bubbles so far. My baby has 160k on the clock too.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
That's nice
@tommyjeanstrue
@tommyjeanstrue 6 лет назад
Looks great!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Jesse's Tight Whips thank you
@jeffsfleet
@jeffsfleet 5 лет назад
I've got an '01 WS6 I bought brand new. To this day it only has 8k miles on it, and very limited time in the sun, but it's black which probably helped bake the shit outta the roof panel and it started bubbling at 5 years old. Took it to the dealer and got the "We've never seen that before" line, meanwhile they were replacing them left and right under warranty. Guess I didn't throw a big enough fit. 14 years later, it looks like garbage, on what is otherwise a perfect condition original car. I've dreaded doing this job, but I think I'm getting ready to tackle it. Did you do any research on the aftermarket replacement roof panels? Any recommendations there? I can't tell you the last time I've seen an F-Body in the junkyard here in Ohio.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
6le made a replacement top but people say it doesn't fit as well as factory. I could be worked on to make fit but the best option is to find a replacement off a salvage one. They are getting hard to find though I agree.
@HyperXprojects
@HyperXprojects 6 лет назад
Not sure if anyone asked - why did you choose to replace rather than paint?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
HyperXprojects unfortunately if you repaint the bubbles come back. The only way to fix it properly is to replace.
@HyperXprojects
@HyperXprojects 6 лет назад
So is it the clear coat peeling from the underlying material (was it fiberglass) that makes the bubbles?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
HyperXprojects factory glue that gm uses soaks through the fiberglass top which keeps paint from sticking.
@jimsimon5040
@jimsimon5040 5 лет назад
Have you fixed your door panels yet so they don't crack?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
No. I just replaced the driver side though
@angieswingle7358
@angieswingle7358 2 года назад
So you had your panel painted before you had it installed?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
Correct
@marwanalzadjali5851
@marwanalzadjali5851 4 года назад
Nice and clean job, bro!! I need to replace the top of my CETA as well. I am thinking of the CF one by magg performance.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you. Be careful with aftermarket as sometimes the fitment sucks.
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
Magg Performance makes a great panel. But it ain’t cheap
@marwanalzadjali5851
@marwanalzadjali5851 4 года назад
@@PumaPete any feedback on their fitment if you ve already replaced it?
@PumaPete
@PumaPete 4 года назад
Marwan Al Zadjali it fits perfect. I can’t tell the difference. Wish I could send you a photo.
@marwanalzadjali5851
@marwanalzadjali5851 4 года назад
@@PumaPete surely will consider that, bro. Thanks.
@leeleses
@leeleses 3 года назад
Hi, where did you get the idea to use the 3M primer for the urethane? The GM service bulletin does say specifically to leave some of the old urethane on the metal roof, but it doesn't mention specifically the 3M primer? But the bulletin does allude to priming the panel with an unnamed primer before using the urethane to glue the top on "7. Apply primer 76 mm (3 in) around the perimeter to the roof panel." Thanks for your input and support! This job is going to hopefully be finished in the next two weeks here!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
My painter who had done a couple recommended it.
@leeleses
@leeleses 3 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports thanks a million! I guess it's some kind of adhesion promoter for the urethane.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
That's correct
@maxmodder
@maxmodder 2 года назад
which urethane is it? The link takes you to multiple products
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
3m
@zuss1231
@zuss1231 4 года назад
You are amazing great at what you do. But you cant skip process and parts while your doing itThe rubber seal you did not say where you get it and you did not show how to install, SOME Of us like me cant follow you have to show cant assume i know it
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
Very close to getting this completed! When you say "epoxy primed(both sides) and painted" what brand of epoxy did you use, and why is the top side epoxy primed also? Thank you!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Both sides had epoxy primer applied. I believe it was matrix paint but any reputable company epoxy would work
@stormtrooper1564
@stormtrooper1564 6 лет назад
so it is possible to remove the top without wrecking it
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
storm trooper absolutely just takes more time. I had no reason to keep the old top as it was not fixable.
@chrislopez6185
@chrislopez6185 4 года назад
Maybe dumb question . But if the urethane glue leeched through causing the issue? Wouldn’t using it again cause the same results Down the road ?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
New glue that doesn't do that.
@jerrylacroix1123
@jerrylacroix1123 2 года назад
Would a heat gun help to remove the top ??
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
Maybe some
@Zelaznogsiul-63
@Zelaznogsiul-63 4 года назад
I didn't know that was like that. It looks like a crappy design from GM, but it looks real nice after it is finish.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
I agree on a crappy design
@1999TransAmWS6
@1999TransAmWS6 3 года назад
Great video. I just ripped the top off my 99 TA and getting ready to install the new one. I bought it from 6LE years ago. The test fit looks perfect. One question, was one container of that 3m urethane primer enough to coat the line on the roof and underside of the new sail panel? I can't find any install instructions for it. I know it says it dries in 10 minutes but is there an install window for it once applied or can you put it on and make the urethane line days later?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
I let mine set for several days to cure. I had 2 tubes but can't remember if I used both.
@1999TransAmWS6
@1999TransAmWS6 3 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports Thanks, I have 2 tubes on hand as well just in case. I'd hate to run out half way through. lol.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
Yes that's what I thought
@michaelcobb4814
@michaelcobb4814 2 года назад
How long do I have from when I lay the glue to laying the new panel? Is it instance or is there time to manipulate it into place. I have my OEM panel painted and ready to go. Thanks.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
5-10 minutes. Be ready. Dry fit and mark where you want it. Hard to move after install
@mikeb6033
@mikeb6033 6 лет назад
I'm getting ready to replace my top this year, Ive seen other videos and pics of this procedure and saw some held the roof panel down with clamps after the install, you didn't need to do this? Thanks and great video.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
Mike B I didn't use clamps but you can if you'd like. It sits on pretty well. I used tape to keep it from pulling back.
@mikeb6033
@mikeb6033 6 лет назад
I also got a roof from another f body.
@mikeb6033
@mikeb6033 5 лет назад
@@TWAMotorsports one question, I have my roof panel off (boy that was fun tearing that thing off) I know you said in the video that your glass guy said that urethane sticks better to urethane, my question is did you leave a small amount of urethane on the replacement roof panel, like you did with the roof structure? Thanks.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
@@mikeb6033 I actually did not because my body man epoxy coated both sides which is something I definitely recommend
@mikeb6033
@mikeb6033 5 лет назад
@@TWAMotorsports ok great, thank you
@jonathanshoemaker8845
@jonathanshoemaker8845 4 года назад
Damn u did a killer job
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you
@tracym1208
@tracym1208 4 года назад
Top looks GREAT... I HAVE A 98 IM WORKIN ON = 30 K ON CAR - SHES NICE = BUT WILL BE NICER IN TIME...
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you. Sounds like you have a nice car
@robertbattle4642
@robertbattle4642 4 года назад
Looks great .....good job
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Thank you
@Zelaznogsiul-63
@Zelaznogsiul-63 4 года назад
I wonder it it would be easier to apply fiberglass instead of that plastic panel.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
I doubt it
@Anangrygoose
@Anangrygoose 4 года назад
How well has your new one held up? I've seen a lot of stories of people not taking that section down to metal and having the left over glue bubbling through the new one over time.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
So far so good. I got almost all of the glue off.
@omar25926
@omar25926 6 лет назад
Sweet!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
omar25926 thank you
@luismanzo4256
@luismanzo4256 3 года назад
Would it been possible to remove that without breaking it.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
It would be tough
@kennethdefreitas3120
@kennethdefreitas3120 4 года назад
My ws6 headlight is driving me mad the RH door won’t open and the lights go on and off as they please
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
May have a short in the wires
@calebherring5182
@calebherring5182 4 года назад
Mine currently looks awful I'm so upset about it. My clear coat was peeling on the hood and trunk so I had a shop repaint it (they did an awful job you can see the sanding marks through the paint) I had them do the sail panel and they did a awful job. They said that they can put epoxy over the glue and it will prevent bubbling we now it looks worse. You can literally see the epoxy through the paint it looks awful they did a bad job and the trunk is bubbling again so I'm going to have to have it all redone again. I talked to a guy that knew what he was doing he said they may be able to do a resin and coat the whole sail panel and then paint over that to prevent bubbling. Im so disappointed they ruined my baby. Any suggestions guy?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
That sucks. Sorry to here that. I will tell you that you can continue to spend money on it but the result on the top will be the same until its replaced.
@rr383stroker95
@rr383stroker95 5 лет назад
Why did you take the corner pieces off you dont have to and it would of been easier taking the sail panel of with window removing steel wire ive done it a bunch of times before when doing the t-top convertion.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
I was trying to save the corners if I couldn't sorce new ones. As for the window wire I wasn't trying to save the top.
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 4 года назад
When you remove the old sail panel I saw it has some holes on top what are those for?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
No idea
@marwanalzadjali5851
@marwanalzadjali5851 3 года назад
How did you get the panel skinned off from the salvage top? Do you have a video on that ?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
I had my painter do that so I don't have a video on it.
@marwanalzadjali5851
@marwanalzadjali5851 3 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports what tools he used to take off this from the body? How many hours?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 3 года назад
He said a couple hours. He use a sharp chisel and piano wire
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 4 года назад
Did you apply primer on the top where it had 3 patches of urethane before u clean it off? I saw you put primer all around first but I didn't see if you put on the patches. After you put the urethane all around well the other guy helping you, did he put urethane on the 3 patches too? Also I saw some holes on the top what are those for?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Not sure what you mean by patches.
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports yea on the top part the sail panel had like 3 round circle with urethane from old one I call it patches
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
@@naranjoceidy we didn't put any there
@naranjoceidy
@naranjoceidy 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports I thought I seen your helper put it but can't really tell in the video
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
He may have
@leeleses
@leeleses 5 лет назад
Hi, where are you located, and have you or would you do this for someone else's car? Oh, and how many hours would you say this took you, if someone is doing it "billable?"
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
I'm in Missouri. I don't have time to or I would. Took about 5 hours or so.
@leeleses
@leeleses 5 лет назад
@@TWAMotorsports Yeah I since figured out where you were located. Thanks for getting back with me. Well, I must say thank you for a great video! You did a really nice job replacing the panel. It's helpful knowing it took you about 5 hours.
@Furyataurus
@Furyataurus 2 года назад
It bubble yet???
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 2 года назад
No. It's fixed
@jameswood678
@jameswood678 6 лет назад
Also, was a mere 30ml of primer enough? How many bottles of primer did it take? You primed both sides of the sail panel? The word "epoxy" doesn't appear on that primer's description, eh? Also, the 6LE Sail Panel (while damned expensive but worth it for a super-nice car) is on sale right now (along with all 6LE-manufactured products) for 30% off. The Sail Panel regular price is $700 + $150 shipping (!!!) but with promo code TAX30 it's $490 + $150 ship = $640. Expensive, but lucky to be able to get it. Should the underlying metal (under the sail panel) be painted very well as a rust-preventative, since the beads of urethane that hold the Sail Panel on don't seem to be that watertight? It's kind of a let-down that GM constructed the car that way. Thanks.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
James Wood I had my painter do the paint. Not sure how much was used. It is for sure epoxy primer. No need to mess with the metal that is under the panel unless you take the paint off while removing the old one.
@xavierberber5801
@xavierberber5801 6 лет назад
30 ml doesn't seem like it's enough it's only 1oz the bottle hes holding is bigger than that..I'm getting ready to do this project but not sure about this primer since everyone says we need epoxy? 🤔
@xavierberber5801
@xavierberber5801 6 лет назад
6:17 u can see the new painted panel on the underside it's basically covered with primer. 30 ml is definitely not enough
@luisferlopez100
@luisferlopez100 5 лет назад
Would it be the same for a hard top car?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Close but to do it right on a hardtop the Windshield needs to be removed.
@luisferlopez100
@luisferlopez100 5 лет назад
Dang, maybe 1 day on my 02 ss
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
I knew 6LE became Magg, but I didn't know they had started producing these sail panels again. Has anyone used the Magg sail panel to be able to comment on it's quality and fitment?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
I have heard some fit well and others don't
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsportsVERY interesting. We'll probably never know if that was the part, or the installer. ugh
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
@@leeleses one I know for sure was the part
@leeleses
@leeleses 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports I'm getting a panel from a 95 Camaro
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Perfect
@leeleses
@leeleses 5 лет назад
I"m curious. Now that you did the job, do you think there's any way it could be done without removing the lip part for the t-bar? I'm scared about the denting the metal on the t-bar issue, several people said that can lead to an improper seal...
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
May be able to but I wouldn't
@stewartmorris3894
@stewartmorris3894 5 лет назад
Avoid 6LE designs at all costs, they ripped off dozens of people. Prob should remove link to avoid anyone else getting ripped off
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 5 лет назад
Yeah I had issues at one point too. However they no longer sell to the public. You buy from a reputable company that gets the part. He is only a manufacturer now.
@jonblakk73ab
@jonblakk73ab 6 лет назад
Maaaaaan I’ve always thought that was metal
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 6 лет назад
jonblakk73ab I wish it were. That would be awesome. I wish someone would make and aluminum one.
@jonblakk73ab
@jonblakk73ab 6 лет назад
TWA Motorsports man that’s crazy I’m still stunned
@sschevmale24
@sschevmale24 4 года назад
@@jonblakk73ab dude what the fuck I thought so too
@phillipjaques4640
@phillipjaques4640 4 года назад
They make some out of fiberglass magg performance makes them
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
They do but fitment is not good
@phillipjaques4640
@phillipjaques4640 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports thanks for the heads up their description says it fits like OEM. Thanks for the heads up
@phillipjaques4640
@phillipjaques4640 4 года назад
would you recommend if i'm goint repaint the whole car just to go ahead and pint the existing one or would i have bubbling issues once again.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
@@phillipjaques4640 I will bubble. If you repaint it needs replaced.
@phillipjaques4640
@phillipjaques4640 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports thanks man I just wonder where I could find one lol!! That's the hard part as most parts are like a unicorn to find
@theinbaron
@theinbaron 4 года назад
Why can’t you repaint the sail panel?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Paint won't stick
@setidepp4853
@setidepp4853 4 года назад
Not really sure why he did all of this... It is a fiberglass part!!!
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Repaint your fiberglass part and see what happens then👍
@setidepp4853
@setidepp4853 4 года назад
@@TWAMotorsports Hey man. I apologize. I read a little bit more on the issue and instructed myself. I guess since my TA is 1995 and does not have the issue, I thought it was not real. Anyway, great job and thanks for your videos.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
No worries lol. Yeah early cars got the good stuff.
@ethanslape8889
@ethanslape8889 4 года назад
wait so why cant you just repaint it?
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
It will bubble again
@rj_boostedz2897
@rj_boostedz2897 4 года назад
Why didn’t you just sand it and paint it
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
Because it would bubble again if not replaced with a new panel.
@rj_boostedz2897
@rj_boostedz2897 4 года назад
I’m asking because I dont understand. Not being a smartass. But why would it bubble again. It’s plastic
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
@@rj_boostedz2897 the glue from the factory works it's way through the top and causes the paint to bubble. It was common for all 99 -02 fbodys.
@rj_boostedz2897
@rj_boostedz2897 4 года назад
I have. 94 camaro that I’m about to paint. And the clear is peeling up there a little bit. But I just sanded it smooth with 220. So that’s why I’m wondering if it’s gonna come through and if so then why if it’s plastic.
@TWAMotorsports
@TWAMotorsports 4 года назад
@@rj_boostedz2897 no you are lucky. That is not an issue on those years
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