How To Restore and Sharpen a Crosscut Saw featuring Mr Chickadee

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How To Restore and Sharpen a Crosscut Saw Featuring Mr Chickadee by Chop With Chris shows step by step the tools, techniques, tips, and tricks to sharpen large crosscut saw. Be sure to subscribe and see related links below:
1. Watch my projects progress on Instagram: / chopwithchris
2. Subscribe to Mr Chickadee ru-vid.com/show-UCHkY...
3. Crosscut Saw Filers Manual pdf:
www.fs.usda.gov/t-d/pubs/pdfp...
4. Buy key suppliers at crosscutsaw.com

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@Dustin_the_wind 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Chris, and also Josh; always a pleasure to learn from experienced, respectful and informative folks.

@ChopWithChris 9 месяцев назад

You are most welcome!

@talltimberswoodshop7552 4 года назад

As a teenager, I had a saw sharpening business in NW Arkansas. I don't remember ever sharpening a crosscut saw but did lots of handsaws and circular saws on a Foley handsaw machine and a Belsaw circular saw grinder. Having used a crosscut since then, I can appreciate the skill level and knowledge required for a smooth, quick cutting saw.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks!

@catherinewilliams8205 4 года назад

Mr Chickadee is both a real artist with the saw, and a very good teacher. Thanks.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Absolutely!

@SIXGUNSAM Год назад

Cant beat those Quality 100 year old Saws👍 no Gas/ no fumes / light weight! Great Video 🇺🇸

@ChopWithChris Год назад

You got that right!

@BravoBull1 4 года назад

Great video. The sawyers manual that was referred to was a godsend and enabled me to learn the process. Swayging the rakers was probably the scariest, but once you figure it out, there is a rythem to it. Since I learned, I have found several very in-depth videos that have confirmed my ability.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it.

@ironleatherwood1357 4 года назад

We are glad that you two are working together. 👍

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks

@alangknowles 4 года назад

Best explanation of the sharpening process on the internet. And we get to hear Mr Chickadee for the very first time!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻💪

@jamieminton172 4 года назад

I enjoyed this very much. It has been 25+ years since I last stood in front of a saw vise, not to mention running a misery whip. It brought back a lot of memories. It seems I have forgot as much as I thought. FYI...Back in the day saw blanks were rolled out( as opposed to modern blanks being stamped out) so the spines could be a thinner gauge than the teeth and rakers. The thinner spines aided in less binding. A well oiled wooden scabbard to cover the teeth and rakers will help prevent damage (leave enough play so as not to remove the "set"), We always used old small fire hose slit open with several ties to cover the teeth and rakers. One last tip from an old wilderness tech, Always carry your tools on the down hill side of the trail. Happy chopping.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks so much! Spoken from a true expert!

@jamieminton172 4 года назад

@@ChopWithChris , I am no expert. I stored all that info in a bin marked useful in my brain when I left Alaska. I am semi retired in my home state of Kentucky (not far from Mr. Chickadee, incidentally). I have done many things over the years. In the 80's I was a trail boss for the USFS in S.E. Alaska on Misty Fiords N.M. (No power tools allowed). Your video had a key that opened that bin. Your saw, by the way, is multi-purpose. It is generally considered a "Buck Saw", but can be used as a "Feller" for smaller diameter trees. Old tools and especially the "SAWS" are a dyeing art. Even the terms and language are all but forgotten... Sawyers, Fellers, Buckers, Chokers and Swampers are a few. You could spend a life time researching the history of saws and still be left with questions. Thanx again for the memories.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Jamie Minton Thanks so much for your comment! Take care.

@TheRedhawke 4 года назад

Now that's good information, thanks for sharing.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@casterman2 3 года назад

Thank for the guidance. I just bought my first, and now have realized,(as with axes), there’s more to it than just having one. Mr. Chickadee you are a national treasure! Thanks for putting this together. Liked and subscribed.!

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

👍🏻

@yoman2854 2 года назад

Subscribe to mr chickadee too!

@rigoniironworks 4 года назад

Good stuff! Great info, thanks!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@kevintulak9987 4 года назад

I have one very similar that has been waiting for my attention for a couple of years, this video may give me motivation. Thanks for sharing.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Good luck!

@randyscott9034 4 года назад

I’ve watched josh stuff on utube he’s amazing it wonderful to see someone with old time skills and knowledge it makes you stand back and really appreciate how tough those men out of the past were

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

No doubt!

@stantilton3339 4 года назад

Great job guys and thank you for the lesson on tuning and sharpening a saw. I had never seen this and Enjoyed the video.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks!

@verdikulk6193 3 года назад

Good to see you both together....

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

👍🏻

@pnwRC. 2 года назад

AWESOME video! I have one of them setting tools, & an old crosscut saw. I had often wondered what that funny looking tool was that they threw in when I bought said saw was for! Now I know not only what it's for, but also how to use er.

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

👍🏻👍🏻

@earthsciteach Год назад

Fantastic video!

@ChopWithChris Год назад

Thanks!

@yoman2854 2 года назад

It was great to hear Mt chickadee talking! Great to hear that heavy pitting isn't a major problem as I picked one up that has pitting. Subscribed to you both!

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

Thanks!

@maxkarpov1903 4 года назад

cool saw🔥

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks

@komododragon4242 3 года назад

Bought two 2-man saws today. Very excited. Thank you guys for your videos.

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Wow!! Good luck!

@andywenner4807 2 года назад

My grandpa taught me to 'pull only' dont push, when using a two man saw.....When you are doing it right the saw will sing....great memories.

@emeralddragongaming2930 2 года назад

@@andywenner4807 I've found one of those two man saws, in an old barn under the roof, very old rusted, but never used, (new but forgotten ) I tried it like it was it cuts well for its condition , I did the cutting alone (one man) , great exercise

@chrismead1464 3 года назад

I found an old saw like this at a garage sale for 20 bucks. It didn't have a handle with it and I don't have the skill to make one, but you showed me how to get the rust off and sharpen it, so thanks for that, much appreciated.

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Thanks and good luck!!

@billsutherland7486 2 года назад

Everything that was demonstrated here also applies to smaller hand saws. Very nice presentation!

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

Thank you!

@ricksspringfield45 4 года назад

Awesome vid...I have 4 that need some attention.👍

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Good luck!

@FredKustomGarage 4 года назад

I restored one me too (watching my vidéos) mine is smaller. I like use it, good cut and 0 carbone! Good thing to show the sharpening

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@andywenner4807 2 года назад

Great memories of cutting logs at my grandpa's house with a two man saw...man we used to get that saw to sing.

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

Was it truly a “misery whip”?

@Musicpins 4 года назад

damn he makes it look easy, it did however encourage me to try it!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

For sure it was not easy 😄! Good luck!

@Mis-AdventureCH 3 года назад

Man, you just made my life 1,000 times easier. I've got three of my grandad's felling crosscuts that need de-rusting. Bend a tank. Genius.

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Great! Have fun!

@Mis-AdventureCH 3 года назад

@@ChopWithChris I will. Did the others with an axe stone and WD 40, LOL.

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

👍🏻

@Matthew-ju3nk 2 года назад

I wish we were neighbors so we could share tools. I've got four of my grandfathers old saws that I am slowly reconditioning but it does take some time to put together all the stuff one needs for the work doesn't it!

@kellytulu748 4 года назад

Cool video

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@polskipartaczwjukej6066 Год назад

It is nice to watch and listen inteligent people 🙂

@ChopWithChris Год назад

Thanks!

@PATCsawyer 2 года назад

Always enjoy watching people work with traditional tools and your finished products are beautiful. Now that you've filed some saws, try putting steeper bevels on the cutters and the saw will be faster. You're the filer, so you can file it to maximize efficiency and tune it up at your leisure. I didn't see how you finished the rakers, but there are some precise gauges like the Anderson that will turn your noodles into spaghetti. Keep your eyes out for an Atkins 390. Filed right it's a rocket saw in hardwood and softwood.

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

Thanks! I have so much still to learn!

@kennethwhite1883 4 года назад

Great restore, have had good results hand rubbing bees wax on any wood after oil has dried.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@thiagocostadutra4512 4 года назад

Good nice 👍👍👍👍

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks

@sethwarner2540 4 года назад

When they're not lookin', test a tooth, see if it breaks or not...(19:01)! Also, Paul Sellers suggests laying the saw on a softwood board, and tapping every other tooth into the wood; seems this method lends consistency. I've had to do this cuz I didn't know about all these nifty tools for consistency. I inherited a 5/8" rat-tail file, which was good for the cleaning of the gullets.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks for the feedback!

@warrenholmar1129 4 года назад

Actually you can thank Mr Chickadee found you thanks to him. Subbed to your channel

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Welcome! I will.

@stretchmfe4913 4 года назад

So strange hearing Josh talk. Nice job fellas.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Thanks.

@micheletcheverria730 4 года назад

ca c est de l affutage bravo

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Merci!

@travwilson7827 4 года назад

Great video with two woodworking RU-vid legends. What about checking for kinks in the saw?

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

That’s a good add.

@zidnyknight3611 2 года назад

thank you

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

@zorroonmilkavitch1840 4 года назад

It's so cool to think that my two hundred year old house was probably cut down with one of these

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Absolutely!

@skitzochik 3 года назад

He speaks!!!!!

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Yep and I have a full interview with him on my channel.

@BurtonsAttic 4 года назад

Great information! I just came across two saws recently that need restoration. Both are two man, one is 60" and the other 72". Both are the same tooth/raker configuration as your saw. Does that make it a hard wood or soft wood saw? Or does it matter? One is pretty worn from the gullets not being maintained. I wouldn't know that without watching this, thanks!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Softwood. Having said that, it will also cut hardwood just fine.

@scottoneil8618 Год назад

It's funny that Mr Chickadee doesn't talk in his videos, because he's a skilled teacher. To my eye he seems to be a trained facilitator. Leadership position.

@ChopWithChris Год назад

He’s amazing no doubt!

@AdventuresInDIY 4 года назад

Good video! Thanks Chris!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@josephdobbins1185 3 года назад

Need to find that top handel for my restoration!!

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

👍🏻

@wilcooley 4 года назад

This is awesome! I just bought a ~3' that's sure to need TLC, so this is really helpful. Bonus is seeing his sawbuck design -- I just broke mine and haven't really totally happy with it anyway. How long did the cut at the end take? I'm happy long repetitive processes are abbreviated, but I wish there was an on-screen timer to show long much time has elapsed, to be able to set my expectations. Otherwise, I find myself wondering if I've done the sharpening or whatever properly if it takes too long.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

About 15 minutes.

@tommysmith8801 4 года назад

Wish you would have done a before and after on the same log so we could get a measure of the difference in efficiency

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Agree. Massively more efficient!

@tikitavi7120 4 года назад

I am normally an axe guy but have branched into crosscut saw restoration. I must say, there is much satisfaction in cleaning up those rusty old sharks and giving them their teeth back.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

No doubt!

@caneycreekwoodcarver 3 года назад

Great tutorial on cross cut saw sharpening it is a mistery to most people why thier saw dose not work right.

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Thanks!

@danstoica7916 4 года назад

Cu respect va salut.. la secunda 28 chiar sunteţi "gemeni". Sunt bucuros ca v-am întâlnit, "AICI, PE AMANDOI" Say hi to you bouth, 28' th second you're really "twins". I'm so happy 'couse I met you, "here, bouth'em"🙏

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

😄👍🏻

@ThomasShue 3 года назад

That’s the first time I ever heard His Voice

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

😄

@jimthode 4 года назад

Pretty good video on basic sharpening. One step that is normally done was missed. When swaging the rakers they should be hammer swaged to about 0.003" to 0.004" higher then final height. Then the last step is to file the final 0.003" to 0.004" down to get a razer sharp edge at the correct shape. For more details on raker fitting and sharpening see: pbase.com/jimthode/raker_swaging For more online Crosscut Saw Sharpening References see: www.bchw.org/Tech%20tips/Crosscut%20Sharpening.htm

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Thanks!

@derekw40 4 года назад

The only saws I know of that are tapered are not big cross cut saws but hand saws made by a company called Silky saws. I use the all the time for pruning trees.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@brianmahoney3256 3 месяца назад

After sharpening a crosscut saw once, you'll appreciate why you should remove the bark before cutting, to minimise blunting the teeth.

@ChopWithChris 3 месяца назад

👍🏻

@fryefoto 4 года назад

1:35 using aluminum flashing as a diy soaking pan for saws is one of those facepalm moments. I have been wracking my brain on how to make this so as not to have to use gallons of Evaporust to submerge the saw plate. Thanks Chris!

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Yep. Its a cheap way to make just about any size pan. Good luck!

@onlywood1483 4 года назад

I think your next project is to restore that car in the background in your thumbnail

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

For sure!

@nosaltiesandrooshere7488 4 года назад

👍

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

@Samanthaf420 4 года назад

How can I identify my 2 man 72" bucking saw a double perforated elliptical pattern? Wormy chestnut handles but to rusty to see blade stamp...any suggestions or thoughts?

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Many times I have wire brushed saws to expose the stamp.

@Samanthaf420 4 года назад

@@ChopWithChris ty sir I'll try it now

@Samanthaf420 4 года назад

@@ChopWithChris do you have email?

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

chopwithchris@gmail.com

@ThomasShue 3 года назад

Is that a Superior Warenteed?

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Can’t see. The mark is gone.

@samschneider7473 3 года назад

What oil do you use for the wood?

@ChopWithChris 3 года назад

Watch Danish Oil - Natural Color

@dallasfields7607 Год назад

What is the make and model of the crosscut saw in this video please?

@ChopWithChris Год назад

It’s a 4 foot blade Disston Lancetooth Crosscut Saw

@Itslvle 4 года назад

(a decimal error; 12 thousands of a inch is 0.3mm, not 0.03mm)

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@nicolalucia4214 4 года назад

Hello ... I'm from Italy ... I have three saws for wood and I don't know how to restore them since they have rust and above all dents ... Could you give me some advice how to remove the dents ... HELP

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Possibly pound them out with a brass hammer.

@nicolalucia4214 4 года назад

@@ChopWithChris thank you Chris

@BobBob-il2ku Год назад

How come he didn’t use the raker gauge to file down the rakers? Every other video shows them doing that

@ChopWithChris Год назад

We did. I thought that was in the video. P

@yoman2854 2 года назад

Hear some old timers used lard or beef dripping to lubricate thier saws

@ChopWithChris 2 года назад

👍🏻

@jpkalishek4586 4 года назад

The Texas comes out with his "L" in Saw, though his is far milder than April Wilkerson's Also the link for the PDF is here: www.fs.fed.us/eng/pubs/pdfpubs/pdf77712508/pdf77712508dpi72.pdf

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

👍🏻

@aa-ron. 4 года назад

Why not take the time and temper the new saw before starting? This way you absolutely know it will be soft enough to sharpen and hard enough to cut. If you know it is a saw you tempered, then you could just start sharpening.

@ChopWithChris 4 года назад

Good point