THANK GOODNESS I FOUND YOU! Same problem, but great solution!! I thought all that work that I put in on my very first build was a complete waste and have to buy another frame. Again, THANK YOU VERY MUCH! You definitely saved my sanity. OOORAH!!! 🙂
I think the guys that commented on removing more of the frame is in reference to a P940V2 and P940C. The P940CL frames were made differently than the standard P80 frames, giving it a complete round inside the slide area after the nose which corresponds to the Gen 4/5 slide nose. The regular P80 full and compact do not have the full round, which means you will need to remove the interior of the slide area - not just the nose. My guess was that they designed it to nudge-nudge-wink-wink to the requests of a Gen 4/5 P80 build which is not viable because of copyrights still in effect (Gen 3's copyrights are expired which is why P80 can do Gen 3s). Also might explain why they discontinued the CL line, if Glock caught wind of how easy it was to 101% the 80% to a Gen 4 model. Helpful video. I have 1 CL and it is in need of a new slide, so I might buy a Gen 4 slide and try your technique. Cheers!
Kevin Jackson Sr. You might need to do specific things for the Gen 5. I do know Tactical Toolbox has a video about how to convert Gen5 to Gen4 (remove ambi) but I’m not sure if trigger requirements are the same or different since the safety plunger is different. Based on his video I believe your frame internals need to be Gen4 which might pose an issue for the trigger housing group (Gen4/5 is larger than Gen3). This needs to be confirmed and reviewed with someone who has all three gens and can confirm. I would say until someone can confirm, plan to build the P80 separately and not use Gen5 parts.
Thanks for the video, I bought a Gen 5 slide to run on a P80 and your video answered my question about the G17 locking lug issue. I will probably run it on a PF940C frame with a gap filler and try to use the marksman barrel. Poi changes with different barrel gens..
You can also run a Gen 5 19 or 45 slide on a polymer 80 26. Without changing anything. They both run the same spring. You just need that spacer thingy to cover the spring.
You’ve done this yourself, this is exactly what I’m facing now . I have. Gen 5 g19 slide and barrel . Would I still need to use a gen 4 barrel as he stated in his video?
CL frames are perfect for G4 G5 slide mod. 940C and V2 not so much. I did the mod couple years ago with the 940C and OEM G19 slide Gen4 . The rail blow apart in the first blm trip. I manage to glue on the two little strips of polymer that I cut out from the frame with some two part epoxy. So far still holding strong, no problems with hot round either. Probably CL where designed with dual compatibility in mind. Thank you.
The only difference between the gen 4 17 barrel and the newer gen 3 17 barrel is the lug on the gen4 has a wider cut to accept the wider footprint of the newer gen4 guide rods. So since you could run a gen4 barrel in a gen5 slide, you could also run a gen3 barrel in that gen5 slide. I know gen 3 barrels fit in the 4 slides as the dimensions are essentially still the same. I just didnt know about the 3/4s in the gen5 slides, and you answered that question nicely.
READ THIS IF YOR WANT TO USE A GEN 4 SLIDE!!! At 7:11. I now know what they are talking about because neither of my Gen 4 slides (OEM and aftermarket) would fit down that channel without taking A LOT of material out, even with GEN 3 SPRING. So much material that the little grooves on the side of the frame are see-through. It just would never fit to fully to the rear unless I kept sanding the channel more and more and once started you aint going back. I wish I had just left it and gotten a Gen 3 slide as I'm pretty sure the frame is a set up to crack now. I think his works because it is the CL G17 frame with wider, reinforced channel. The V2 G19 I have won't work.
I thought the same too. I cut the entire rail section off just to see what would happen with the PF45 frame. Never had any problems in the 200 rounds sent downrange. I 3d printed a new rail section (siraya tech blu resin) for the PF45 with a lower rail section.
I saw someone else comment and I will agree with their comment that this works because you’re using an Polymer 80 CL frame (Custom Long Slide). I would imagine if you are trying this with a P80 full-size or compact frame (None CL Frame) you will end up having to remove material in the channel as others have told you. Please do a video on that and let us know. I build as well, but I’m not jacking up frame just to see.......... 😂
I shoot way better with a gen 4 recoil spring. I like this review because it showed me why I should use a gen 4 slide. I don't want a weaker frame. Thanks man 👍🏽
P80 serialize g19 frames have more material on the walls and floor of the recoil spring channel. I think the guys saying you have to remove more material are referring to newer models.
Thank you for the informative relief and parts selection. Ordering up what I need now. This happy accident was due to deltateamtactical miss shipping me a gen 5 slide with my gen 3 parts kit. Now I need a gen 4 barrel and the spring bushing. Fortunately that allows me to get something threaded for my "in the mail" Deadair Wolfman. Thanks again.
This video is awesome. Now I have a question, has any ever tried modding a polymer 8 to except gen 5 internals? Wouldn’t you just need to drill 1 hole in the frame “in the right location” instead of 2 holes? I’m a lefty, and want to be able to use the ambi slide release.
Hey man. Awesome video. So helpful in this build that I’m trying to put together with spare parts laying around. I have the g19 p80 lower and a completely bare gen 5 g19 upper. Can I fill that gen 5 g19 upper with a gen 3 g19 slide assembly kit and a gen 4 barrel? Or do I need all gen 5 parts other than a gen 4 barrel and gen 3 spring like you mentioned in the video?
Hear me out, the Poly80 PF940sc (G26) with an Gen 5 G19 slide using the gen 4 to gen 4 adapter from Lone Wolf as well as the reducer to accommodate the Gen 3 recoil spring. Thoughts?
I’ve got a Glock 23 Gen 4 complete slide on a Polymer 80 Subcompact frame (For the 27 or 26) and run the Gen 4 guide rod with spring and the only thing I added was the Lone Wolf dust cover adapter to take up and cover the space. Shoots like a champ. Now I use 27, 23 and 22 mags.
@@blackriveroutfitters7185 Sick. Thats enough to prove the concept to me. Seems to be the same idea but in .40 so in theory, doing the same in 9mm should be just fine.
@@billywhite6856 I’ve never held a Gen 5, but if it measures up like a Gen 4, you’re in business! I love building “Frankenstein Glocks”. Built several “Smith & Glockson’s” (P80) currently working on a Taurus Glock P80 combination that will be a Frankenstein Glock 43. 🙄😂🤣
@@billywhite6856 have video of the two SW9V P80 builds I did on my channel. Test firing them so people know it will work. I just completed a P80 SW40VE build today and the Taurus Glock P80 is almost finished. I’m just a bored old man that likes to try and build stuff. Lmao
How can I learn how to get everything I need to put all the parts in the frame I really want to figure out how to do a frame and what tools I would need
Has anyone figured out a way to get the Gen-5 barrels to work with the frame? Being able to use the new factory marksman barrels is really the main reason why I would want to try this. Otherwise, it's almost better to just mill the Gen-3 slide and leave the frame alone.
So do you still use gen 3 parts in your lower? Or are they all the same anyway? I know that the ejectors are different; and I know how to swap them... but otherwise, does a regular gen 3 parts kit (lower) work on the gen 5 slide upper??
@@mp2103can one change the locking block on a Gen 3 frame to a gen5 locking block, to fit the Gen 5 Slide? Or is there No possibility to use a gen5 Slide on a Gen 3 frame?
Very cool man. Thanks for that. I assume all this info would be the same for using Gen 5 G19 slide on a Poly80 G19 sized frame? Just use 19 sized parts instead of 17 right?
Hey Brother thanks for the video helps out alot, a couple questions I purchased a Statement Defense Overbite Glock Slide w/Trijicon RMR Optic Cut Glock 17 Gen 4, are there any more mods needed to be done besides the removal of the extra material in the front you showed i.e. to the Lower parts that you assembly to the rest of the frame if not which lower parts kit are you running rails etc.and what trigger system are you using with the polymer 80 lower gen 3 with your gen 4 slide? Second question do you have any experience with modifying the 80% arms GST-9:MOD1, Pistol Frame to accept the Glock 17 Gen 4 slide to fit on that GST-9 frame? I know under their disclaimer it says does not accept Glock 17 slides. Thank you. Sam
Looking to make my own polymer80 glock. I have a gen 4 slide and great to know its an easy modification to make the slide fit. Do you run gen 3 lower parts kits on these P80 Frames with the Gen 4 Slide or do you need GEN 4 lower parts kits on these p80's to properly operate on a gen 4 slide?
On that final configuration you showed a gen 5 slide, with a gen 4 barrel and a gen 3 recoil spring with a reducer bushing, on a p80 frame with assumably Gen 3 internals. To be certain, couldn't one use a gen 3 barrel?
Quick question I used the polymer 80 pf940cl frame with a glock 17 gen 4 slide with all gen 3 parts I have the adapter for the gen 4 slide to fit the gen 3 spring recoil but the spring recoil will not fit onto the slide that way any info on what I did wrong or need to do?
I wanted to run a Gen 4 Glock 20 slide on the PF45 but only my PF940CL has that inner channel rounded inside the front of the frame and I don’t want to weaken it and have the rails break off. So I got an aftermarket Gen 3 slide I’ll run. But I can put a Gen 4/5 slide on my PF940CL frame and never noticed it was already rounded out. So I’ll get a Gen 5 slide for it.
Hey Johnathan Brand I have the same question as two others who asked, is it possible to run the ambi gen 5 slide locks with the gen 5 slide gen 3 recoil spring and bushing?
So to run a glock 22 gen 4 would you have to still use a bushing along with a gen 3 recoil spring? Stumped on my build taking my time becuse it is a .40caliber.
Just checked the clearances on my pf940c frame with my gen 4 slide. The inside of the frame has too much material for the front tang of the slide to cycle through. Just clearing out the very front like what you did on your 940cl won't work.
My question is this: Do you have all gen 3 frame parts, including trigger group, in that gen3-5 setup at the end? Or did you have to change anything out to be compatible with the gen 5 slide parts? I understand the gen 5 safety pin is angled differently to be smoother in trigger press, but heard mixed reviews on the function. Have you put rounds through the gen5 slide on gen3 frame?
@@mp2103 good deal. Thank for the video. Testimony with details is huge when considering multigen builds. Although trying to find certain parts to build is insane right now.
can anyone tell me if i can take my fully build polymer 80 glock19 and switch the 9mm barrel out with a .40 barrel n turn it into a glock23 or is there more too it ?
If I use a PF940CL with a gen 5 slide do I have to use 19 frame internals? Sorry if its covered in here but I'm just trying to get the basics and go shopping
What about running a Gen 4 Zev tech drop in trigger in a P80? Any experience? If I take the trigger and just replace the ejector housing with a Gen 3 will it work?
I actually have done this but oddly ran in to some reliability issues. In my experience every P80 is different though, so if that’s something you want, I’d try it and test it throughly.
