How To Run The Spark Amp With An External Speaker Cabinet 

Any time...That’s awesome! 🤘🏼

So can i just run any pre amp like a Seymour duncan power stage and a regular 8 ohm guitar cab?

@@guitar_goes_brrrr8237 I’ve never tried a pre amp with this 44 Magnum but have used my pedals with it and it works good. I’ve only tried the Spark with the 44 Magnum like he shows in the video and it works great

Total agreed- love my mini. If I could get them functionality on stage would be my go to

Positive grid head is literally that but it's $1000

Now that’s a greatest idea, I think . If Positive Grid were to come out with a Pro for live performances amp , then I think it might just blow all the other amp out of the way 🤗🙏🏽… Already one would experiment on how to use the avails spark products in pro live rig situations ….

@@clydebermingham121 they have one, positive grid head or rack bud

Excuse my stupidity, but what's the difference between an amp, & cabinet?

Did you ever get this setup and if you did how does it sound?

It's not really a flaw. The Spark is designed as a practice amp, not a stage amp. I would say it's more of a design oversight. ;D

@@ubermac85 I agree with you Scott. Positive Grid don't want people buying a practise amp that will kill sales of their pro gear. I'd love to see Rocket Rose's mod.

Would be great to see a video about installing a line out. With the line out, do you mute the Spark, or does it still stay active?

@@Jonathan-L yes usually amp manufacturers do not put line outs on smaller amps so pros have to pony up for the line out but in this case what pro cab are they offering as an upgrade? It would make sense if there was a spark 80 or something with a line out but we have nothing.

I just use the headphone out to the aux in of my amp. Sounds legit on a 12” speaker

The music is too loud. No worries but I couldn’t finish because it’s maddening

Did you try it and if so how does it sound?

Oh yeah I did. I had mentioned that I tried this already and it worked great, but looks like I had multiple posts here. Not sure why but that was 3 years ago so who know. s haha.

Awesome to hear!!! I was just contemplating buying the mooer 30 but didn't know If it would be enough. But reading this now, ITS ON!!! Thanks for the info

You sound quite knowledgeable do you know if a MXR micro amp would work?

Thanks man anytime!

So all you need is the cable to connect the spark to a katana?

And get to the point!

Did it work well?

I ended up buying A Headrush 108 FRFR directly from the headphone out. It worked. It was very loud for the bedroom. I returned it and am looking into 5” monitors.

@@paulcavaliere213 but the Spark itself has a pair of 4".

How did you end up running this setup??

Update?

@@creepingdeth141 It worked great. However, I ended up selling the Spark amp.

@@HumbleHeartMinistry really what was the reason

Thanks! 🤘🏼

What is the cable stereo to mono

If it can access the effects from the app rather than the onboard settings on the amp then I'm in. Otherwise there's no point.

Can you clarify how that can be done?

@@lonecunado I did this with my Fender LT25. Basically you cut the wires going from the amp to the Spark's speakers. You buy a 2-way toggle switch. Solder/heatshrink the amp side of the speaker wire you cut to the center two posts on the switch switch. Solder/heatstrink the speaker side of the wire you cut to either the top two or bottom two posts, it doesn't matter which. Next, you need an input jack. Wire the input jack to the only remaining two posts left on the toggle switch. Solder/heatshrink. Now pick a mounting point for the output jack and toggle switch on the amp. Locate and drill/cut the appropriate size holes to mount them. The backpanel may be too think to actually secure the jack and toggle switch with the nuts. In that case, cut a larger square shape hole in the back panel and cut a piece of plastic, like a pickguard material, sized to cover the hole and be attached by screws. Cut holes in that piece of plastic to mount your toggle switch and input jack. You are done! Now you can flip the toggle switch to change whether the amp is supplying sound to the speaker or the output to cab. So, in my experience doing this, there is a noticeable volume change going to the larger speaker, it's moving more air. You can definitely crank it to get more sound, but there really isn't a tonal difference. Like, I thought the LT25 was being limited by the 8in speaker. I thought maybe it might sound better/less boxy on the higher quality 12in speaker of my other amp. It really didn't make any difference except a modest increase in volume. So whether it's really worth it to mod the amp IDK.

Hi Rickord, I hope you can answer my questions

Others have answered this. You just need to adjust the headphone out to not overload the 44 input. I.e. the headphone jack provides a voltage and the input jack will have a maximum input voltage you just adjust it so you dont exceed that

Humm.. So I can use my Blackstar Tube amp instead of this and a cab? Would I run it to the effects loop input?

@@Yu54m18 yes you put it into the fx loop power amp input. this bypasses your preamp. also protects your preamp which only expects a guitar signal. the fx input (power amp in) expects a hotter signal more like what your headphone is putting out. all adjustments to volume and tone will be done from the spark at that point. regards.

Thanks John, with your help, I'm starting to get it.

This didn't work for me. I have a stereo 3.5, out of the headphone jack going to a mono 1/4 into my effects return on my Blackstar HT club effects loop..any thoughts on what I could be doing wrong?

@@AslanRising sounds like you're doing it right. make sure you have the output volume up on the spark. this should bypass your blackstar preamp controls all together.

I believe so. The 44 Magnum runs a straight clean signal like the effects loop.

Good question. You can try to but I think the 44 Magnum outputs to mono.

Yes. You would get left and right at the y which could go to separate power amps/cabs

Yes. You can. But you obviously need two 44 mags

That’s a good question but I’m almost sure the 44 Magnum power amp runs on a mono output.

I would assume you would need a 1/8 stereo to 1/4 mono cable. Headphone outs are stereo and the cable will combine the signal into mono to your amp.

The cabinet I’m running it through runs at 8 ohms and it’s outputting from the headphone jack and not the auxiliary output.

That was my concern as well.

You could run 2 of the 44 mags and a custom stereo cable that would send the output from the headphone jack to two separate 44 mags and use your cab in stereo. Just an idea but it should be an easy fix for this if you wanted to get the most out of the sound. Now you will have to balance the power of each 44 mag at this point and would not be as convenient in a gig situation but running a volume pedal wah combo in front of the spark could also solve this issue. Though at that point you have really got intricate in all of this.

It's a wrong way to go about it the headphone output is full range the guitar cabinet is not full range these signals are not compatible if you wanna make your spark go louder you need a full range flat response cabinet it's called the FRFR cabinet

@@chrishill9707 If you were using the Spark to play music I would agree with you. However, as the Spark for guitar it will be emulating a guitar cabinet and therfore the predominant frequencies will be those present in a guitar cabinet. Years ago I would use my guitar cabinets for playing music. The bass, cymbals and vocals might not have stood out but the guitars sounded great.