As someone who is trying to re-learn how to use a shaper after 25 years out of high school, I appreciate Adam's explanations of stuff too. I also really appreciate what you share about them as you have excellent ways of explaining things to amateurs like me. The "smiley face" example is a genius way of helping one to remember which way to swing the clapper box (first time out of the gate on my machine I was dragging the tool due to the wrong clapper angle).
Having just set up a manual shaping machine this was a very useful and informative video and I thank you for it. Your explanation was as good as one could ask for.
Well, I think you did a great job explaining the angles to be aware of using a shaper. I have a Sheldon 12" shaper so I appreciate your teaching lesson on how not to crash your tool using a shaper. I am a hobbyist and not a machinist. My background is Welding. Before I forget, thanks for showing the shaper eyes and where they should be looking.👀👀
I just got my first shaper and I’m glad I saw your video. Now I have a much better understanding of how to make sure the clapper box is set correctly and also how to check it. Thank you for taking the time to show this. 😬👍. Eddie wheels 🧑🏻🦽😬
Well, explained Michel. I was watching Deans shaper video this morning (12/10/22) and had to come check out your comment to him, Yes, I am suppose to be in the trim shop sewing, but had Shaper fever this morning, so had to watch (@@)! I got wrap up the upholstery jobs, my Shaper is setting there all in pieces is driving me crazy :)>. Early Merry Christmas,,Bear.
I think that was a great explanation and Adam shouldn't listen to commenters over his own good sense. 😁 The first thing I learned with my shaper is the bottom of the clapper is always pointing into the cut no matter the angle or direction. Thanks for the video!.
Great explanation, Rusti! And also a reminder that anyone can make a mistake... except me of course. Well, there was that night in Sevastopol and my fiancée but we don't talk about that....
Perfectly explained, I have always used the theory that the material is being feed into a mouth, it’s hard to explain on words the way I look at it but material is feed from the widest point to the smallest point, Told ya I can’t explain it probably but it works in my head, thank you for explaining this, I’ve been told a couple of time that my clapper box was set wrong but it wasn’t, Matty
Very helpful and easily understandable explanation. I'd like to add that one might want to take into consideration that the depth of cut as controlled by the tool head feed might be off (by cosine value of tilt angle, similar to screw cutting on the lathe with compound ser at angle).
Indeed, when the tool slide is set at 45° the tool is fed in half of what you dial in. This was maybe not really the point of this video but i really appreciate pointing that out. Thanks.
@@Rustinox Great video on basics. I commented on another of your vids about some of what Abom does and then this one popped up in my recommendations. But because of your other video where you explain tool extensions I was also able to get a better understanding of what Adams set up in the straight edge video he did. Between the 2 of you shapers might just make a comeback.
Hi Rustinox! I love the shaper series. Shapers are kinda magical machines. I have one in my garage - Klopp 300. I can see your machine has nice feature: automatic clapper lifting mechanism. Do you have some video or can you show us this mechanism? I'd love to modify my Klopp 300 to have this auto lifting feature. Thank and sub. Greetings from Poland.
My machine doesn't have a clapper lift. But some Klopp shapers does. Check out "Astra-Werke" on RU-vid. He posted videos 6 years ago where he works on the clapper lift.
Great video, great explanation! Two questions: 1. The clapper box has a swing range. Obviously rotating it more increases the clearance. What is your opinion on the optimal setting? 2. I have noticed Adam cutting keyways both with the keyway down and up. In the 'down' position, I guess the clapper box would work OK, but I do not know if it was locked. I have an old book saying the clapper box should be locked for slotting work. In the 'up' position, obviously the clapper box does not function. With internal slotting, a pretty long bar is used, does this already provide (elastic) clearance? Would disabling the clapper for slotting also be for reasons of accuracy? Thanks and keep up the good work! Groeten uit Nederland.
Tha angle of the clapper box is not really important. From the moment it clears the tool on the backstroke, it's good. For slotting, the clapper is always locked. If not, the cutting forces will push the tool up while cutting. Of course, it's important to feed down only when the tool clrars the cut on the backstroke.
Hello rusty great video I'm just starting out using a shaper any information on it is good to see . I. Was wondering if you could make a video on sharpening shaper tool bits and thanks for all your help.
You are a good enough teacher for youtube viewers, sorry that sounds like yt viewers are being "dissed" as the young trendies might say. The cutting edge being in front of the pivot also applies to clapper box thread cutting tools,but maybe not to the same extent.
Con el tiempo que llevo de ver un canal que explique las virtudes de una limadora y no saber inglés. Que pena que no sea en español. Aún así veo todos tu vídeo. Eres un buen maestro. Gracias.
Rusty, you are indeed a teacher. I believe that this is because you see things from the perspective of a novice and explain in terms you would understand. We had a saying many years ago. Those who can, Do. Those who can't teach. And those who can't teach, teach the teachers. I think you fit between the first two categories. You can, and you teach.
You can mention names I WON'T BE OFFENDED. I'm a novice as you well know. I think you are a secret tool maker engineer taking up driving boats as an easier way of life to pay the bills. I DON'T BLAME YOU. Brilliant constructive, instructive, informative bit of technical theory for beginner's just like me to improve our tool setting skills in order to perform operational tasks which will hopefully LOOK GOOD lol. Score = AA++
I have absolutely no problem with hobbyists making little mistakes. The videos i refer to comes from a technical school somewhere in the far east. Teachers teaching it wrong, that's a big problem.