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How To Solder SquarePlugs 

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Howdy folks! Today, the Rig Doctor runs you through the steps necessary to solder your DIY patch cables using Square Plugs using SP400, SP500, SPS4, and SPS5 Plugs - the smallest soldered 1/4" plug in the world! If you are using a different plug, don’t worry! These steps will work with any of the straight or pancake plugs and most types of patch cables from Mogami, Canare, Van Damme, and others. If you have questions, let us know in the comments below and subscribe: / vertexeffectsinc
//table of contents//
SP400 / SP500 (Pancake) Assembly - 01:46
SPS4 / SPS5 (Straight) Assembly - 05:13
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Mogami 2314 (bulk cable) - amzn.to/31SluVE
Mogami 2319 (bulk cable) - amzn.to/2HIZ7dm
Square Plugs SP500 (pancake) - bit.ly/32m63mU
Square Plugs SP400 (pancake) - bit.ly/3atPJ8Y
Square Plugs SPS5 (straight) - bit.ly/34qiajW
Square Plugs SPS4 (straight) - bit.ly/30WwAJJ
Pre-Made Cables with SquarePlugs - bit.ly/3kJFvGl
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Vise - amzn.to/2E9eTLO
Heat Gun (embossing gun) - amzn.to/2BwGdlm
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CONTRIBUTORS:
Hunter Harrison - Mixing, Audio Editing
Mason Mejia - Co-Producing, Audio Editing
Mason Marangella - Co-Producing
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@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Howdy folks! Today, the Rig Doctor runs you through the steps necessary to solder your DIY patch cables using Square Plugs using SP400, SP500, SP4, and SP5 Plugs! If you are using a different plug, don’t worry! These steps will work with any of the straight or pancake plugs and most types of patch cables from Mogami, Canare, Van Damme, and others. ⬇️ //recommended patch cable materials// ⬇️ Mogami 2314 (bulk cable) - amzn.to/31SluVE Mogami 2319 (bulk cable) - amzn.to/2HIZ7dm SquarePlugs SP500 (pancake) - bit.ly/32m63mU SquarePlugs SPS5 (straight) - bit.ly/34qiajW Pre-Made Cables with SquarePlugs - bit.ly/3kJFvGl
@GuitarGodgt
@GuitarGodgt 3 года назад
@fastguitar Squareplug isn't a good choice for the cable that goes from the amp to the pedal board and it's not a good choice for the cable that connects to your guitar. Really these are only going to be good for patch cables that live on the pedalboard. Just my .02 but I'm willing to bet Mason agrees.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
These are only for the pedalboard patch cables. Don’t use these from guitar to pedalboard, or pedalboard to amp!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
⬆️ what GuitarGodgt said
@jmd12331
@jmd12331 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc does that apply to when you connect to a amp sim like an iridium? I have one in my board.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@jmd12331 I don't understand your question
@jameskass4415
@jameskass4415 2 года назад
Having never soldered anything before, I bought a few tools, followed your examples with Mogami 2314 and SP400 plugs and have completely re-routed my mini pedalboard to fit all my pedals with hardly any cables visible. Looks fantastic, sounds great-I would not have been able to do it without your expertise. Thanks so much, Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
So glad I could help!!!
@Drtydeeds
@Drtydeeds 2 года назад
Got any tips for tinning the sleeve lug of the sp400? I’m really new to soldering as well and it’s giving me lots of trouble.
@AlexPriceMusician
@AlexPriceMusician 3 года назад
This video came at the perfect time. I just bought 400 of them and messed the first couple up lol. I'm still figuring this whole thing out.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥳🥳🥳 good luck
@patienceyanderling126
@patienceyanderling126 Год назад
Well met. Thank you for taking the time to teach/ instruct. Always get inspired with your detailed video’s here. Cheers!
@gagambong23
@gagambong23 3 года назад
hey Mason.. thank you for sharing this wonderful tip.. like always.. yours is the only channel by far that I always grab a pen and paper just to make sure I take note of all your tips and tricks.. keep up the great work.. and thanks again..
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
So glad he did it! And I hope we earned your subscription. As always we link everything in the description so you don’t have to take too many notes.
@nickPR505
@nickPR505 3 года назад
I soldered my cables last night. Thank you Rig Dr! I used this video for help and once I got the hang of it I had your podcast on in the background. Keep up the good work
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Glad it helped!
@TheNitsua59
@TheNitsua59 2 года назад
Thanks for posting this and your other videos. I'm learning in part because I'm interested and therefore motivated but you're a good teacher and that makes the difference.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad to help!
@vincent33195
@vincent33195 2 года назад
Hey Mason- I own a small custom cabling company here in NJ - I started five years ago with patch cables. I met Karim at NAMM some years back before anyone had seen his square plugs. He’s a friend of mine now and he’s brilliant. The last time I went to NAMM every single pedal company was using them. They are the best, hands down. This is a fantastic video, and easy for those who are new to this to follow. I was soldering the straights a little bit differently than this but I really like how you solder them and will begin using your method moving forward. I also really appreciate you showing how little needs to come off of the insulation before tinning. I tend to go longer and then snip, but this is really efficient and I love the focus on proper strain relief. Awesome video brother. 🤘🏼
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Thanks for watching! Agree 100% on Squareplugs!
@pablocabrera9956
@pablocabrera9956 2 года назад
Mason !! Love your videos. This one was so helpful. Because of your recommendations, I removed all my solderless cables and replace them with soldered ones. Thanks a lot
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad I could help!
@-Madkrafter
@-Madkrafter 3 года назад
Thanks for the tip video. I just got a 10-channel switcher pack of straight SP4 and pancake SP400 from Alphatone Audio. Perfect timing on your video. Cheers!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥳🥳🥳
@RobertNolan
@RobertNolan 3 года назад
These are some of the finest patch cable tips I've ever seen. I really don't see them getting any better than this unless it's like gold plating tip or something
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Robert Nolan That stuff so bogus, most of it’s just plating anyway. I would like to see some ribs in the channel of the housing, but it would make it slightly deeper and overall I think the design is great.
@tommysouth6206
@tommysouth6206 3 года назад
Thank you Mason!!! Made it sooo much easier for me 🙏🏻. Keep doing what you do.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You're so welcome!
@benjaminhutcherson
@benjaminhutcherson 2 года назад
Heck yeah, LOVE these plugs. They made my pedalboard life 1000x easier.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Heck yea!!!
@matthewalves3855
@matthewalves3855 3 года назад
Really appreciate the guides Mason, your knowledge is extremely valuable! Thanks for the great videos brother
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My pleasure! I hope we earn your subscription!
@PhishBanjo
@PhishBanjo 3 года назад
Thanks for clarifying when to use SP400 vs SP500! Great takeaway!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@perudolux
@perudolux 3 года назад
Thank you tor this great tutorial. I had a lot of issues with my cables and squareplugs . I will try this tips for my next ones
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Good luck! Let’s us know if we can help!
@jimmymarbut996
@jimmymarbut996 3 года назад
Thanks for the great tutorial. Wiring up my first patch cables with 2314/SP400. This vid was exactly what I needed!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@jimmymarbut996
@jimmymarbut996 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc New cables were a complete success. Cheers!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@jimmymarbut996 amazing!!!!!!
@PapawCulberson
@PapawCulberson 2 года назад
I build cables and hand wired tube amps for a living. On most soldered connections - especially cables - I use an awl, pointy scratcher, pick, poker on a stick - whatever you want to call it - and I scratch the connection surface a little - then clean it with denatured alcohol. The alcohol cleans up any loose metal particles you made from scratching it up - and the alcohol - on a Q-tip - cleans off any oils or manufacturing chemicals left behind. This ensures a good solid connection for the solder. It is a little tedious to perform this step on every connection - but I do not have solder joint connection failures since performing these simple steps.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I think that's a good solution, especially for some of the cheaper plugs that don't do any treatment to prevent corrosion to the lugs after manufacturing. For the most part, I've found the higher end stuff to be pretty good in that regard.
@pacoruizserrano
@pacoruizserrano Год назад
Your videos are gold, thanks!
@fo76
@fo76 9 месяцев назад
Simple... once you see how it is done properly... thanks for sharing 😀
@Axman66
@Axman66 2 года назад
+++ its allways a pleasure to see a real Pro at work+++ big Fan of your chanal, Mason
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@irvingperes
@irvingperes 3 года назад
This is gold! Thank you Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You're very welcome! I hope we earned your subscription!
@ruslanmansurov3790
@ruslanmansurov3790 2 года назад
Very good video. Thank you for explaining all of this nuances.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
🙏🙏🙏 thanks for watching!
@johnprather7655
@johnprather7655 3 года назад
Your videos have helped me out so much! Thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@patrickcarroll1754
@patrickcarroll1754 3 года назад
Masterful, Mason. Thanks!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@motorcyclemarv8912
@motorcyclemarv8912 2 года назад
SPS6M and SP600 w/ 6mm Mogami 2524 will be my goal for next pedalboard. Excellent video, we always need the details!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
For a pedalboard, the 2524 is not a good idea, too thick, no benefit sonically for these types of runs. I would stick with 2314 or 2319. 2524 is for outside of the pedalboard.
@keromblum
@keromblum 3 месяца назад
Super helpful! Thank you for sharing this.
@newgunguy4176
@newgunguy4176 3 года назад
Excellent video tutorial. Thank you so much.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Glad you enjoyed it!
@jbalmer9310
@jbalmer9310 3 года назад
I may have mentioned this before, but one of the problems I had when I first started using square plugs was I was trying to feed wire through the lugs & there isn't much room to solder that way. I now do it the same way you show here & it's works great, even w/ very short cables.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It’s not necessary on the pancake end. If won’t hurt - but I’ve seen a lot of new DIYers have issues feeding the center conductor through the lug and shorting to the housing not realizing they need to cut off the excess cable behind the lug that they can’t see.
@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq
@DanielGutierrez-vq5uq 3 года назад
now i got it!! this is awesome, thanks rig doctor!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful Daniel
@ryuyamakawa4431
@ryuyamakawa4431 3 года назад
Thank you very much for the amazing information. You guys are awesome. 👏
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@lifelongfan07
@lifelongfan07 2 года назад
I’ve gotta rescue the patch cable I threw away and practice fixing one. Thank you for this!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Hopefully you find it helpful
@stellarrays
@stellarrays 3 года назад
Thank you very much for the great information you provide !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My pleasure! I hope we earned your subscription
@RMosack
@RMosack 3 года назад
Well done. Great video. Lots of useful little tips in there.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m so glad he did it! I hope we earned your subscription
@bluestringmusic
@bluestringmusic 2 года назад
Great guide. Stumbled upon your channel by accident, really like the content. Subbed !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Wow! Thanks!
@grausound
@grausound 3 года назад
Excellent video... thank you for making it... learned a lot !!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏 our pleasure
@helmanfrow
@helmanfrow 2 года назад
I bought some SPS4s to use not on a pedal board but on the back of an electronic drum sound module because I wanted the audio output cables to bend on the same plane as the pad trigger cables. Standard-length plugs like the NP2X would a) invite damage to the PCB-mounted output jacks by sticking out past the other cables and b) place more mechanical strain on the output jacks because the longer plugs exert greater leverage. Worked out great, and it cost me only two-and-a-half times what I would have spent for premade cables that would have met my needs. 😂
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Glad it worked out!
@JC-xy3lm
@JC-xy3lm 3 года назад
Thanks uncle mason! Really helpful!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I’m so glad!
@d20sounds31
@d20sounds31 2 года назад
Very good! I am going to solder my cables now!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
👍👍👍
@M3dicinePYT
@M3dicinePYT 2 года назад
Great video. I'm using a cable with a little more volume of the outer shielding so that It can't fit through the hole in a SP4. I do the reverse of the procedure shown without bending either of the tabs. The center conductors goes through the hole, soldered and snipped if any extra is there... the shield is soldered on the interior of the ring tab. So far, no issues...but the board isn't done yet, so we'll really find out as soon as all the cables are done.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You can cut some of the shield away, it won't hurt anything.
@gregpruitt1647
@gregpruitt1647 2 года назад
Great video. As a rank beginner, I need much closer in images of the solder connections, before, during, and after the connections are made, if only to make absolutely clear what is being soldered.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Good tip!
@JoeDonahue
@JoeDonahue 3 года назад
This video was suggested for me. I love the content and your explanation. I think you should try to get a camera mount. It was really hard to see a lot of the details because the camera was having difficulty focusing where you were working. I'd also slow down a little with the hand work just to make sure the whole audience is able to follow along. Thank you for the info.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Joe Donahue Thanks for the feedback, the overhead camera is on a mount. The side view camera is hand held.
@JoeDonahue
@JoeDonahue 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Anything to help sharpen the detail around the work is appreciated. Just forwarded this to some co-workers working on their own pedalboard builds. You just made several peoples day. Thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Thanks again for the feedback and for watching! I hope we earned your subscription
@MostlyTorso
@MostlyTorso 3 года назад
I use a 1/4 inch piece of heat-shrink over the wire where it goes through the collar of the SP 400 for added strain protection. I know it’s not necessary, but I sleep better at night knowing it’s never going to pull out. Also, I really tighten down on those screws with a real screwdriver. 👍🏻
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
It won’t hurt anything depending on the diameter of cable. I wouldn’t want to try using, for example Mogami 2319, with heat shrink on the SP 400 series. It will deform the cable and you risk having some reliability issues long-term. By the way, the heat shrink won’t do much in terms of strain relief on a pull, only the lateral movement (side to side). The solder connections are really the only significant strain relief you have against pulling (front to back).
@MostlyTorso
@MostlyTorso 3 года назад
Vertex Effects I can definitely agree with you that there can be “too much of a good thing” (as in your M2319 example), but I disagree with you in terms of the heat shrink not helping with strain relief. The heat shrink widens the diameter of the wire, effectively giving the collar more “squeeze power.”
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
MostlyTorso Strain relief is there whether it’s lateral or vertical movement. On this particular model, there are no teeth in the housing to really hold the cable in place. And some of the switchcraft brands for example, There are ribs in the bottom and top of the housing they are offset in order to create strain relief front to back. On these particular devices, and I have tested with pull testers, it’s pretty limited in strain relief movement front to back because there isn’t any ribs in the slotted channel where the plug enters they housing. And if you build it up too much, as we noted above, it will deform the cable and result and other undesirable connection issues. At the end of the day most of this is a non-issue if it’s on a pedalboard and is light years ahead of any solderless equivalent is this regard.
@MostlyTorso
@MostlyTorso 3 года назад
Vertex Effects I still respectively disagree that it wouldn’t help with pull protection, but I can agree with you that this is a moot point anyway AND that solderless cables suck ass. Ha ha.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
MostlyTorso In a pull test, it’s about 1.2ish lbs of force between a Mogami 2319 in an SP 500 connector with heat shrink between the housing and outer diameter of the cable versus no heat shrink on a vertical pull. It helps - you’re right, but it’s nominal when you’re talking about 45 pounds in force for a break. So about 2% difference overall.
@u2acrobata
@u2acrobata 3 года назад
thank you so much (OBRIGADO) ... this helped me a lot ... once again ... Greetings from Portugal !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
My pleasure, you’re very welcome, I hope we’ve earned you as a subscriber
@u2acrobata
@u2acrobata 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc no you didnt!! just because i'm already a long time subscriber of yours ;) :)))) Rock on ...
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@tmitz73
@tmitz73 3 года назад
Good Stuff Mason!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@felinekaiju4517
@felinekaiju4517 2 года назад
This is much easier than I though!. I can't wait to start!.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You can do it!
@theblindsniper
@theblindsniper 3 года назад
Awesome info Mason :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@HeavyReverb
@HeavyReverb 3 года назад
thanks Mason! Mine should be arriving any day. You'll probably get a few more views of me just replaying this vid. Wish me luck! Peace!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰 sounds good! Good luck!
@BrandonSantamariamusic
@BrandonSantamariamusic 3 года назад
Awesome video!! 🤙🏼
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🥰🥰🥰
@scooter5005
@scooter5005 2 года назад
Nice, thanks
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
No problem 👍
@clippingdiodes
@clippingdiodes 3 года назад
Thanks man!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Happy to help!
@slimbeaux
@slimbeaux Год назад
Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
No problem!
@slimbeaux
@slimbeaux Год назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I am learning so much from you. Not ready to drop $129 right off but $10 here and there is doable.
@GuitarGodgt
@GuitarGodgt 3 года назад
I love squareplug. I did my mini board with them and pretty much won't go back to normal patch cables ever. I used SP400 ends and w3214 as well. My soldering technique is a little different than what you did, but I don't see any issue with what you did. It might be easier for anyone who is new to dip the tinned wire into some flux paste before applying it to the pre-tinned lugs on the cable end just to make sure the joint is good if they do exactly what you showed here. Also anyone who wants to try doing this, I strongly recommend getting good solder. Cheap solder is absolutely zero fun. Snag some Kester 24-6337-0027, it will be worth it just to avoid the hassle that comes with junky solder.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I think the Pancake is hard to mess up - pretty standard. The SP4 and SP5 are the tricky ones. That bend on the tip is critical when you have so little cable to work with to maintain the integrity of the strain relief. I linked a high quality Kester 60/40 leaded solder in the description.
@pedrolb351
@pedrolb351 3 года назад
Great video!! Thanks a lot for sharing so much cool stuff! I have two questions: 1.- what’s the criteria for choosing a thicker or a thinner cable? (And as a consequence choosing an SP4 or SP5 plug) 2.- What temperature do you set your soldering iron? Any recommendations for this?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
One, I would refer to the retailers of the plugs themselves, there is a look up table that has been created by square plugs. Typically I’m just using 2319 with the five series, and 2314 with the four series. In terms of temperature you’re not gonna have too much game once it’s over around 600° other than wearing out your iron faster.
@toploadtele
@toploadtele Год назад
5 Stars! 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc Год назад
Wow, thanks!
@v33patrick
@v33patrick 3 года назад
I did subscribe love the info! Ordered a bunch from your link! What temp you run the solder gun at!? Thank you for sharing!! God bless!!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Amazing! What's the range of your iron?
@v33patrick
@v33patrick 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc weller in your comments is the one I bought!
@bzakie2
@bzakie2 3 года назад
Great instruction Doctor. If I could make a suggestion. It would be helpful if we could get closer to the action though. It was hard to see the detail.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Thanks for the feedback!
@Ryan-no5bf
@Ryan-no5bf 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I feel like it's always hard for a video to show that close of detail. Maybe take a zoomed in nice camera photo and just clip it in to show some important parts.
@michaelanthony9068
@michaelanthony9068 2 года назад
I thot you are supposed to heat up the surface that you’re soldering to before you do the actual solder attachment. I often cooked some part of the piece and I haven’t soldered for years, so thnx, I’m jazzed to try it again. Also, when you strip only the teeniest bit of insulation off the conductor, you’re not worried about “polluting” the solder with plastic from the insulation? Obviously not, so thnx again. I’m subscribed and “liked” and I’m ordering from you !
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
If you tin both sides you shouldn't need to spend a lot of time on the lugs to reheat them and get solder flow. It should be very minimal time on the lug and the wire with the iron. The center insulator isn't conductive if you peel away the conductive plastic as I suggest.
@FreddysFrets
@FreddysFrets 3 года назад
I just redid my entire pedalboard with Square Plugs. Love them! Mason, I'd love to know what you think of my pedalboard loom....I'm using a stereo rig with a 7 cable method. My loom includes all guitar signal cables as well as midi and DC supply for the pedals. On the pedalboard side I have one single Amphenol multipin connector for everything. Have you every used that kind of termination for rigs?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I haven't but if it's not getting any noise, then I suppose it's all good!
@FreddysFrets
@FreddysFrets 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Studio quiet!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@FreddysFrets great!!!
@acroberts4481
@acroberts4481 3 года назад
Inspiring stuff, Mason. What kind of bench vice are you using there?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
See links in description
@on1ytheb3st
@on1ytheb3st Год назад
Don’t pre-tin the entire length of the shielding/grounding wire or in my opinion at all. Doing so will restrict any natural flexing the shielding wire has and will likely fracture the joint. Look at factory cables, they allow a certain length of shielded copper wire to stay exposed (not shrouded in solder) specifically for flexing. You can watch this yourself by unscrewing the jack sleeve and flexing the end of the jack back and forth; you will see the copper wire move. If you make that joint 100% solid, it will snap the minute a large stress is induced on it.
@davidgollom345
@davidgollom345 3 года назад
Great video Mason! I think you should mention having a good quality wire stripper. I finally got a $20 one and stripping was so much easier and I ruined far less cables. Also, instead of a vice, I use a piece of wood with 1/4 holes drilled in it. That way I can lind up a bunch of plugs at once and tin them super fast. It's like a little plug soldering factory. Would you use an SP 5 for an instrument cable?
@davidgollom345
@davidgollom345 3 года назад
I see you answered my instrument cable question already! Thanks
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I link all the ones that I approve of, but I appreciate the feedback nonetheless
@jezmez68
@jezmez68 3 года назад
Looking for a Square Plug tutorial and this was perfect! I suppose I could search on that vice, but do you have a link for that thing? I'm just getting started soldering and that looks like it would be a great tool.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Links are in the description
@joelwilliams8634
@joelwilliams8634 2 года назад
Hey Rig Doctor! Love all your videos. I’ve got some 2314, and some SP4s/SP400s I’m using to wire a board with an ES-8 Switcher. So far both the cables I’ve soldered work when I plug guitar into amp, but when I try to run them from the tuner out on the ES8 to my Korg Pitchblack, the tuner is not functioning properly, it’s reading incorrect notes and just going haywire. In addition, the connection seems to be a little sketchy, if I wiggle the soldered cables in my cable tester (CT100) some of the lights go out. The answer is probably just keep practicing, but is there some obvious thing I could be doing wrong, so I can avoid wasting more plugs?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
If you email us some pics we can take a look info@vertexeffects.com
@TheGuitarEffect
@TheGuitarEffect 2 года назад
Hey Mason. I wanted to ask you something. Is the cable that’s used in a TRS cable different that a regular TS cable or is it just the plugs.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Different plugs and different cable. For TRS I use a twisted pair shielded Mogami 2552 cable and SP550-S plugs
@lukejames8679
@lukejames8679 3 года назад
What plugs do you recommend for an instrument cable? Thanks for all of your amazing content!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Neutrik
@lukejames8679
@lukejames8679 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc NP2X and NP2RX?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@lukejames8679 or the silent plugs in some instances
@MarcAntoineForget
@MarcAntoineForget 2 года назад
Hey Mason! I got around soldering my SP500 plugs but I almost always get crackings when I plug the cable and move it around (ex. in a pedal to test it). Any idea why?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Dirty contacts inside the pedal most likely (presuming the cable was assembled correctly). Try cleaning your contacts with Deoxit D5.
@Ricardorochamusic
@Ricardorochamusic 3 года назад
Hi! Thank you for sharing! I need to buy a new soldering iron an some wire. What do you recommend? Cheers
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Ricardo Rocha Link in the description to the ones I recommend and the solder
@richardmusicman8997
@richardmusicman8997 3 года назад
Thanks for the video, really helpful! I'm starting with DIY cables. Do you recommend a specific type of soldering wire? Which one should I use? And does it affect the sound or not?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I like Kester 60/40 I listed it in the links in the video description.
@richardmusicman8997
@richardmusicman8997 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks for always taking the time to answer! That's actually what I'm using, I just didn't know if it was ok
@oldjess
@oldjess 3 года назад
In the SP400 I have sometimes had concerns about the shield making contact with the tip in the center of the plug, so I have taken to folding the shield back against the outer sleeve and letting it get pinched in between the sleeve and the collar. Would love to know if/why from your opinion that’s a bad idea
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I'm not sure I fully understand your reason for it or the advantage of doing it this way. The only risk of touching the tip and sleeve would be if you exposed a lot of the wire of the tip so that risked a short to the housing. Maybe link a photo of what you're doing - maybe I don't understand it.
@captbuscemi
@captbuscemi 2 года назад
Great video, I’ve already made my first few patch cables using your method, great results. Can you tell us which cable you use for TRS patch cables? Got to connect some footswitches for my HXStomp and can only find low-quality pre-made cables, I’d like to make my own using SP550-S plugs.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Mogami 2552
@captbuscemi
@captbuscemi 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
@@captbuscemi 👍👍👍
@Bluesman788
@Bluesman788 3 года назад
Thanks Mason. What brand and model cable do you use when making TRS cables?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Mogami 2552.
@MinivanMegafun100
@MinivanMegafun100 2 года назад
So I watch this and then sit down to make cables. I finish my first cable and... I forgot the screw on plug sleeve for the SPS4 end. Here's a tip from what I just learned: if you're making straight plug to pancake end patches, do the straight plug end first. This way if you forget the sleeve, the other end of the cable is still open to slide it on! Also my god is this tedious work.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Good call! I still make this mistake from time to time ;)
@Stephen-uk2in
@Stephen-uk2in 3 года назад
Hey mason in your other soldering video you say you should take off all of that inner shielding, do you just leave it on for these specific plugs?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
If the cable has a thermal conductive plastic around the center conductor, you definitely need to remove it completely or it will impact the sound of the cable greatly. The Mogami 2314 does not have this, however the Mogami 2319 does. If you were to repeat the same tutorial with 2319 you would have to add a step of removing the thermal conductive plastic around the center conductor so that it looks clear.
@kevinmbuck
@kevinmbuck 3 года назад
Mason, thank you for these videos you have been a tremendous help! Do the SP400s work with the 2319? or do I have to use the 2314? (I want to make sure I don't have to use heat shrink, and that the cable will fit nice and snug)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
They will, just barely.
@kevinmbuck
@kevinmbuck 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc awesome thank you!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Good luck!
@kevinmbuck
@kevinmbuck 3 года назад
Hold the Phone! (Record Scratch)...just want to say that The Sp400s and sp 500s do not work with the Boss ES-8 if anyone is using them for that. If you have an ES5 or ES8 you can use the sp400 or sp500 for the pedal end, but to plug into the ES8 you will need to use the sp4 or sp5... The dudes at Bestronics are extremely helpful...Thanks again Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
kevinmbuck That’s correct, they have a look up table on the square plugs website that shows this as well as well as other compatibility with certain devices and switchers
@aeijke
@aeijke 3 года назад
Hi Rig Dr! I have a question. Does it matter what cable side you solder to the pancake plugs? Does it have to be on both sides te same, like (in) sleeved one on the right en non-sleeved left, (out) also sleeved one right and non-sleeved left?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
If you're using a coaxial cable, both sides are soldered the same. Tip to Tip, Sleeve to Sleeve. The cables are assembled 1:1 on both sides.
@StaticRome
@StaticRome 2 года назад
Mason, Do you know of any low profile trs connectors like straight square plugs? I know trs square plug SP550-S is low profile, but it is right angle...and I'm using an boss es8...if i did use the sp550-S, it would block the rest of the es8 control inputs...but that is fine, since I'm currently not using them. Also, which trs cable would you recommend for the SP550-S thanks for the help!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
I used to use Switchcraft 1/4" stereo jacks and replace the housing with the 380 casing.
@danhalen1967
@danhalen1967 2 года назад
I am interested in buying square to straight pre-made cables. I have a boss es-8 and not sure why the listing you have for pre-made cables say they are not compatible.. please explain
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
The SPS-4 SPS-5 are compatible with the ES-8, the SP400, and SP500 are not.
@mrzeetube
@mrzeetube 11 месяцев назад
Hi there, quick question if I may. Would the brand of the plug matter? I've seen somekind of brand out there for sp400 and others. Would the 2$ different with the 7$? Or it is more a gimmick? Talking specifically for patch plug not for guitar plug. Thanks much!
@the_travelers_band
@the_travelers_band 3 года назад
Awesome tips! Do you have any recommendations on a good soldering iron? Thanks!!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Yes see links in description
@the_travelers_band
@the_travelers_band 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Awesome! Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏
@karlkitchen1382
@karlkitchen1382 Год назад
What's the conventional wisdom on using a short section of heat-shrink on a SPS4 assembly as a means of preventing the strain relief screws from digging too deep into the insulation layer? Curious about that. I'd be worried about screwing them down too far and eating into the shield layer.
@jeremywinnett6352
@jeremywinnett6352 Год назад
If you were too by accident, it would be a secondary connection of shield to sleeve. No harm as long as you avoid the conductor. Heat shrink is there more so as added strain relief on the solder joint. By all means, use it, but you don't need much. A half inch or so past the jack is enough. Any more and you're likely working against the heat shrink when patching, diminishing it's integrity. As a patch cable, it's not moving like an instrument cable is. These connectors shouldn't be used for instruments. Use beefier connectors(with larger solder points) for that.
@ronkresch9228
@ronkresch9228 3 года назад
Is there any advantage/disadvantage to using different diameter cables? Is thicker better....is thinner better.....why would you choose one over the other?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I recommend 2314 for these connectors, you can watch our shootout of several different cables to see why we chose this. With a buffer most of these cables won't sound different from each other. The thicker cables aren't an advantage on the pedalboard. Off the pedalboard they may be because they're more robust.
@alistairshaw4845
@alistairshaw4845 2 года назад
I have made some patch cables using Mogami 2319 and sp5 cables. The tip to tip and sleeve to sleeve read 0ohms using a multimeter, however when I check my tip to sleeve I get readings of 300ohms to 10kohms depending on the cable, I am wondering if this is an issue?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
You probably didn't remove the conductive plastic and you have a resistive load.
@alistairshaw4845
@alistairshaw4845 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thank you! You were correct. I can’t believe I missed that step.
@doom_siege
@doom_siege 2 года назад
Thanks for the awesome guide. I’m in the process of making my own patch cables. My wire strippers are DESTROYING my cable ends as I try to strip! Is the gauge for 2314 wire non-standard? I can’t seem to find the info in the specs. Seems like 10 and 12 are stripping too much or too little.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
It is standard but there is also a "feel" component to doing it right - also if you have dull strippers that can make it hard to work with.
@doom_siege
@doom_siege 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Thanks so much!
@djhinormas959
@djhinormas959 3 года назад
hi mason i have the sqp sp550sbk plugs there a trs plug so what cable do u suggest? also any news on if ur going to sell the part kits for ur diy buffers? since i cant order the parts in ur link here in Austraila. also congrats on ur new switcher :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Mogami 2552
@djhinormas959
@djhinormas959 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks mate :)
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@djhinormas959 my pleasure!
@Bones3640
@Bones3640 3 года назад
Hey Mason, I had to move some stuff around on my board and re-solder some connections after shortening some patch cables. I'm having trouble in one of my loop runs. I've tested the cables with my 1 spot tester and they both look good but when I turn the loop on half my signal goes away. What would cause that? Is a ground wire touching a hot somewhere? Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
worleytones you probably didn’t remove the thermal conductive plastic on the cables - send a link to a photo of the inside
@Bones3640
@Bones3640 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc that was it! I trimmed a bit of the 2319 back, made sure to remove the conductive plastic this time, re-soldered the connection and it works perfectly. Thanks Mason!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@Bones3640 Good deal, you shouldn't see any of the black plastic at all, it should all look clear if you want to get it right 100% of the time.
@Pokey7317
@Pokey7317 3 года назад
Hey Great Video as usual. I plan on getting a bunch of the SP400s I saw them AGES AGO and thought they were wicked. I have a question. Is it possible to use an XLR cable to make patch cables and to also use it as an instrument cable? Any pros or cons?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Sure you can - you just need to wire it like you would a directional cable, with the shield connected on the output side, and the shield cut away on the input side of the cable. Depends if you like the sound more than anything.
@Pokey7317
@Pokey7317 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc I'm gonna try it. THANKS A MIL for your quick response...
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
🙏🙏🙏 I hope we earned your subscription
@Pokey7317
@Pokey7317 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Been a subscriber from AGES AGO... Get channel. Keep up the good work...
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Paul Amar 🙏🙏🙏
@lorencing
@lorencing 3 года назад
Thanks for the video. I have a question though, where can I buy these square, flat, right angled mono jack plugs in Europe and which have the best fit to use with Mogami 2319 as a patch cable? Thanks and greets
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
The company, Squareplug, is based in France. You can check them out online. You want the SPS5 and the SP500 series for the Mogami 2319.
@lorencing
@lorencing 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks!
@Peter-em7wl
@Peter-em7wl 3 года назад
Following these instructions right now ! Noticing volume loss with some of them . Must be a bad solider joint?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Whats the cable you used?
@Peter-em7wl
@Peter-em7wl 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc mogami 2319. The folks on paddleboard’s of doom helped me out.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@Peter-em7wl you probably left on the conductive plastic around the center conductor.
@ande047
@ande047 10 месяцев назад
I noticed on the pancake plugs, you didn’t thread the leads through the hole on the lugs for both the ground and hot lead. Instead, you just pre-tinned the entire lug and just soldered the leads on top. Is there any audible or durability difference by just soldering straight to the lug instead of looping the lead through the hole on the lugs? Thanks!
@wes89
@wes89 4 месяца назад
Yes. J Standard dictated by IPC class 3 says the pre tinned wire should go through the hole like a z. Don't double back on itself.
@matthewalves3855
@matthewalves3855 2 года назад
Hey there Uncle Mason! Really appreciate your guides man, but I was wondering at what temperature do you solder the patch cables? Is there an ideal temperature for doing this?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 2 года назад
Around 6-700 degrees F
@matthewalves3855
@matthewalves3855 2 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc Ty Mason!
@devinsparks1523
@devinsparks1523 3 года назад
Do the tips need to go through the holes on the tabs? I can’t get it to after tinning the ends.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
No, they don’t
@salemmartinez8738
@salemmartinez8738 3 года назад
Hey, is there a chance you can make a video about making a trs cable to plug into the iridium in stereo ?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Is that an insert cable?
@salemmartinez8738
@salemmartinez8738 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc yes!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Mogami 2528 is what you need - I’ll make a diagram soon. TRS SquarePlug on the Iridium end, dual TS on the preceding stereo pedal. It doesn’t matter which conductor you designate to tip or ring, just tie together both shields to the sleeve on the TRS side and you’re golden!
@TristanHurd
@TristanHurd 3 года назад
What cable would you suggest for making stereo TRS cable connections with the SP550s? Curious about audio cable for stereo, and would you just use the same for MIDI TRS cables?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
If it’s TRS to TRS on a pedalboard, Mogami 2552. If it’s and insert cable, TRS to dual TS, then Mogami 2528. If you were making a MIDI cable 2552 would be the one to get or even a smaller diameter version would work if it’s for MIDI.
@jmd12331
@jmd12331 3 года назад
Vertex Effects is it possible to make a trs to dual ts with a sp550 trs to 2 sp400’s using BTPA 0678 cable?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@jmd12331 Maybe...you might need to look at the diameter specs of the cable cable versus the opening of the housing on the plug - easy math to do.
@drum94
@drum94 3 года назад
What is your main preference? 2319 or 2314 now? Looks like 2314 has less capacitance. Is it equally as reliable? Thanks for the tutorial!
@prstito
@prstito 3 года назад
2314 seems to be the better choice. Make sure to use the SP5 or SP500 to fit the thicker cable
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
For a switcher, 2314 is preferable because it’s smaller and creates a little bit easier routing. Without a switcher 2319 is my preference. There is a capacitance difference but it is nominal. This is especially true if you’re using high-quality input and output buffers.
@jasonjuadines
@jasonjuadines 3 года назад
Bitchin’ video as always my friend. Gonna order my parts from your link. Thanks. Quick Question: Do the SP400 ends fit side by side in the Eventide H9? Thanks!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
They do as long as you turn them upwards or downwards.
@jasonjuadines
@jasonjuadines 3 года назад
Vertex Effects thanks again. I appreciate the advice.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
Jason Juadines 🙏🙏🙏
@patrickcarroll1754
@patrickcarroll1754 3 года назад
Mason, is soldering essentially hot gluing, but with metal?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
I guess there is some cross over...hahahaha.
@prstito
@prstito 3 года назад
Love these. However I always have to nudge the ground lug up a bit from the housing and most of the time the solder doesn’t stick on it like the hot lead lug. This is for the pancake lug. Is there any specific solder you use that works best with these plugs? I’m using Kester Silver solder.
@michael3599
@michael3599 3 года назад
I've done quite a few of these and I've had good luck with Kester 63/37, but I think Mason recommends Kester 60/40. Also, if you are having trouble with the solder binding to the ground lug you probably don't have it hot enough. The ground lug will usually be harder to heat up because there is more material that acts like a heat sink. Good luck!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
A lot of times, the problem is that you don’t have enough surface area of the iron touching the lug, and as a result their won’t be a lot of heat transfer. Instead of coming down the straight on top the lug, try coming in at an angle or get a tip with more surface area.
@prstito
@prstito 3 года назад
Michael yeah I have a temp control on my iron and it’s like 700 degrees Fahrenheit lol
@prstito
@prstito 3 года назад
Vertex Effects true! I have like a pencil tip on my iron so I’ll switch it up to see if that makes it better
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
You can try it from the side where you could get more heat transfer, without seeing your technique it’s hard for me to evaluate it. But feel free to send me a video and I can do my best.
@StephenMougin
@StephenMougin 3 года назад
Is it possible to use the square plugs with George L’s cable? I’m having trouble sorting the dimensions of these different parts. Great tutorial!
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
.155 George L's will fit into the SP400 but the GL's are difficult to prep properly for soldering because of how they're made.
@StephenMougin
@StephenMougin 3 года назад
@@VertexEffectsInc thanks for the reply. I’ve been learning a lot from your channel.
@StephenMougin
@StephenMougin 3 года назад
I also really liked the Lava Tightrope in your cable shootout. Are those any easier to work with than the George L’s?
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
@@StephenMougin Yes, much!
@digthisbigcrux
@digthisbigcrux 3 года назад
Interesting that you don’t push the wire through the hole in the lug on the SP400. What is the reason for that? I go back and forth on that myself and am not sure which way is better.
@VertexEffectsInc
@VertexEffectsInc 3 года назад
There’s more than one way you could do it, I typically stay away from doing this especially in a DIY tutorial because many practitioners who are inexperienced will push it through and not cut off the excess behind the lug and end up shorting the center conductor to ground because they’ll just hit the back of the housing with the wire that comes through. In this context, the way I showed it, is no more or less reliable.
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