In real life tanks did often use all metal tracks. Rubber composite ones that are applied as pads onto the metal parts appeared to prevent roads being destroyed (and other benefits, including weight and less noise). The composite is a very very dark grey,almost black. However this Land Raider we can clearly see is just metal, there's no "pads" for it. So you made a call that looks best for the model!
@@MediocreHobbies Good point by Retro above, I would just add that the metal of the actual tank tracks (now and in the past) is never silver, more like a dark brown or even black matte, from surface oxidation of the steel, from the natural wear and tear, or even from factory paint when they are new. Skilled armour modellers (Night Shift, Rick Lawler, Mike Rinaldi and many many others) use such dark colours (dark grey or dark brown-rust-grey) as the first colour for the tracks, then followed by lots of weathering by earth coloured pigments and acrylic washes and enamel washes (you can go to town here) and only at the very end they add some silver or steel colour to the parts of the tracks that protrude and come into contact with the ground, or metal to metal contact surfaces etc. But your result is really great even starting with metal silver for the tracks, and after all, this is the 40k Universe so who knows what weird metal alloys they are using 🙂 if it looks good (and it does), go for it! 🙂
Don't worry about how things "should" look. Always paint it how YOU want it to look. I like to do my tracks black. I then rub silver weather powder over it with my finger. Then any environmental weathering on top.
Yes! Totally agree, I love seeing people from either hobby add things and all the different techniques and tools come together! The future is looking great for the hobby!
Everything looks great. Going to try the stipple method with my 40K World Eaters rhino. One thing though that could be improved... you've got some pretty serious silvering on your decal. That's from not applying a gloss before you put it on. The silvering is trapped air in the tooth of the mat finish. Gloss coat, decals, matt coat is the way to make decals look painted on.
Great work mate, you have done the mini proud. In answer to your question on tank tracks brand new track for the majority of British Armoured Vehicles are made of metal with rubber compasit track pads fitted. The rubber pads serve multiple purposes such as reducing vibration, track noise on tarmac roads and improve stopping distances. Some of the larger vehicles such as the Challenger 2 Main Battle Tank has replaceable rubber pads where as smaller vehicles such a a Scimitar Combat Vehicle Reconnaissance (Tracked) CVR(T), have the rubber pad integrated. Some such as the Viking used by the Royal Marines are all rubber. As for colour, fresh from the factory track, comes in lengths that need to be assembled by hand commonly know as "Track bashing" amongst crew members (read blood, sweat and general hard graft) and are covered in a almost tar like black coating to prevent corrosion.while stored outside on pallets. The track will not spend long looking in that condition and will take on a more dirty, grimy looking colour with even the possibility of light surface rust dependent on the environment that is is operating in and of course mud and dust. . Basically, after a short time at war they wold look just like the great job that you did. 🦾
For my rhino, I base coated the tracks in black, then halfway between dry brushed and painted them with leadbelcher, then drowned them in agrax earthshade, then dry brush stippled on the parchment and burnt sienna that I use for my Black Legion's bases. It looks OK sitting on a table a few feet away, but I'm not thrilled with it. You go way farther with the weathering and pigment powders than I prefer, but the 30k/40k universe is way over the top, and it fits the universe, tells the story you're trying to tell, and is well executed so I respect the decision to do it; it's just not my style. You've also got the added difficulty of trying to make them look good on camera that I don't have to worry about so "going overboard" on the weathering and pigments to make sure they show up on camera is fully justified.
Thank you for the kind words. Yes on camera is important. And the weathering is overboard on these projects as I’m basing them on tera during siege so there wrecked.
Im glad i found this great tutorial, which then lead to the artis opus tutorial. This style drybrushing is now the only way i will be painting vehicles going forwards. So far nearly finished painting a proteus and a typhon for my 40k space wolves, with a spartan next in the queue. Not 100% sure how i will do the tracks yet. The tracks are based coated metal but probably will do multiple black and brown washes to weather them down considerably. Cheers again bud.
Nice! Very good bang for your buck, in terms of outcome vs technique accessibility and time invested : ) Plus, a solid base for further elevation - gloss varnish + oil pin washes to make details POP. Satin varnish + filter washes to tone and harmonise base colours. Matt varnish + grime, oil, corrosion, dust, mud effects! Season with weather power last ; )
@@MediocreHobbies …and I meant a SOLID base 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Anyway - I’ve found in hobbying (as in life) enjoying the process/journey in the moment has way more value than fixating on the goal. That way madness and dopamine depletion lies!
@@MediocreHobbies …and I meant a SOLID base 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 Anyway - I’ve found in hobbying (as in life) enjoying the process/journey in the moment has way more value than fixating on the goal. That way madness and dopamine depletion lies!
ive also developed a fast way of doing my tanks, I put on a basecoat or prime in the colour it will end up as, then I do a pin wash and then a heavy drybrush, for my own trakcs I use a brown and silver mix which i heavily wash and weather
I like the metal tracks on this one, it goes better with the color scheme. Personally, I would go with whatever looks best, any metal or black will do if it fits the scheme. (Hmm, brass on green? I like that...) I think you over did the dust on the tracks. Less on the centers and more on the edges? I still love it, no matter what. Good videos, I'll be using this to do all my Stargrave, Star Wars and Traveller vehicles from now on. Thanks!!!
Regarding tank tracks (being a tank officer myself) I can say they are metal with rubberised pads. But they are not silver either. I would use gunmetal and rust to color mine.
I love all the techniques you use, something for weathering on your transfers is that I would stipple a little of the sons of horus green that you use on top of the decals to make it look like it has been weathered and its not just the base color with green painted around it. Can't wait to see more!
Due to your video and seeing this I ordered some of those brushes and look to try it out with my HH DA tanks. Think will base grey do first layer Abaddon Black and then Corvus with some Eshin Grey. For the treads going to try black and just dry brush some metallic color.
The powder would be heavier on the back of the tank. And less on the front. As your moving the tracks kick up dust in the back and i imagine would carry it onto the back of the top.
I'm in the process of painting my Spartan. I'm using it for a Chaos Land Raider. I had considered getting a Proteus, but since it's a proxy for my CSM army, I figured bigger was better. They're such similar models anyway. Thanks for showing us this! It looks amazing!
It looks awesome! I always put down 'ard Coat on the spots where I want to stick some decals. After the decal dried, I will go over it with another layer of 'ard Coat before weathering and sealing the whole model with Spray Varnish like the Munitorum Armour. Then the water slide transfer should not be visible anymore.
Hey dude loved your video, I wanted to chime in about tank tracks, I was a US Army M1 tanker. Modern tanks, specifically ones from Western nato countries and America use a hybrid type track. They are made of solid steel with rubber track pad inserts. When we get them in huge 5 ton bundles per side they are coated in a black protective paint. As you would imagine with use this paint is worn away especially if you are operating on asphalt. Like me in Iraq. When comparing a fantasy model it’s like comparing apples to oranges, but I’d say 40k style tanks have tracks that are reminiscent of what I personally worked with. That said Age of darkness style tracks remind me more of World War One tanks or the actual tractors they are based off of. They were also solid metal most likely coated to protect them from corrosion but they saw heavy use in open fields, and so would be black and caked with mud. As a hobbyist that’s trying to be “realistic” as possible I’d say it depends on where your tanks are operating, if they are on soft ground more terrain caked in there but if they are cruising the streets of a city, probably almost a polished metal on account of the friction of the tracks beating on the asphalt. Hope this helps friend.
If you look at a bulldozer at any worksite you will see the tracks are shiny from working on and through the soil so your tracks look realistic to me but I do like the pigments on them too. The color scheme looks great and I like the dry brushing technique for the overall color too. Thanks for sharing this.
I loved the way that stippling trick looked on the Rhino and I love it on this Land Raider. It's really quick and gives a great look. The weathering with the pigment creates the illusion it's been fighting for a long time and they haven't had the time to hose it down in a while. It works. I believe modern tracks are a fancy composite material nowadays, but Warhammer 40k has always borrowed a lot from WW1 in particular with the tank designs (sponson weapons fell out of favour after WW1 because of them being useless in most directions and being a weak point on the tank.) So steel threads make a lot of sense aesthetically.
tank and excavator tracks are only rubber so not to tear up asphalt or concrete roads. usually tank tracks are metal but they are much more rusty colour
I think as miniature painters, we paint for visual interest. I think most tank tracks in reality are black, but that wouldn't be very appealing. Same with guns. Look at all modern guns, they are all black or tan. Very few guns have a stainless steel finish, but we do that to break up the color of the gun. That and I think people equate gun barrels as a steel look /, rather than just black
I’ m going to try your stippling technique on a 30K Rhino, hope it looks as good as yours! As for tracks I paint mine with Rhinox Hide, Agrax wash and dry brush Gumetal.
That’s great to hear, best of luck, I have a few videos on the technique but if you have any questions just let me know! That sounds like a good scheme for tracks, might borrow that some time!
Whst color should tracks be? Whatever you like the most 😊 This is a sci-fi mimiature game and your model. If you think pink tracks is coolest thing then that is what it should be 👍
@@MediocreHobbies anytime I'm on my way to 3k now and I managed to get line units looking great in no time and have more time for my character's and elites
This turned out great, I think the metal tracks help break up the colors and when you add the pigment powder it helps sell the effect. It could also be that this tank lost its treads and was still charging through the battle feild so there's loads of ways I think to make metal tracks work Great job as always Andy :)
Dear Andy, I prefer to use gun metal for the tank tracks, but I do think that its down to the individuals personal taste. Whatever spins your props....A great tutorial - Thank you. Best Wishes Johnny
Hi Johnny! Appreciate the comment as always! Gun metal sounds like a great balance between black tracks or silver tracks, I might have to try that some time! Glad you liked the tutorial, and thanks for the support. Andy
Love the old stipple technique with the Artis Opus Series D brushes as it's how I've been doing all my my heavy armour for my Blood Angels 30K army. The silver tracks always look too clean for my tastes as I prefer a darker look to tank tracks. The weathering does a lot to pull it back, although even there I think I would have gone for a darker powder? Looking at photos of real world tanks the tracks all basically are black with occasional silver highlights showing through caked on mud... But then 40K has never really been that interested in 'real world' and so go with what you think looks best. :)
Love the video and the paint job! For the powder - it feels like way more should be adde to the bottom of the model to highlight that rust and dust accumulates here.
Thanks man! I normally apply more at the bottom but wanted to show that this tank is moving too much for stuff to gather dust aside from kicking it back up a bit higher!
Great job with the painting. the tracks thing is something i notice a lot of people online paint metal. personally i like them black with the joints metal but i prefer a more realistic look. nothing wrong with painting them metal if thats what you prefer. all the best
Great result ! only criticism is the silvering on the decals , easily rectified by lightly scoring the decal with a craft knife and over painting with microsol !
Wow I’m late, but couldn’t help but be interested by a tank tutorial without an airbrush. Certainly helpful for me! Anyways, depending on how weathered they are, tank tracks start out mostly black, but as they get used, the metal parts quickly get worn to bare metal and will soon start to develop spots of rust. If there are rubber pads on then, they’ll turn a bit grey from surface scratching
Bloody great guide, feel confident enough to tackle my Spartan/Proteus. Out of curiosity how would you tackle a space wolves one using the same techniques?
Is there something similar to the dry dust but simulates mud? I have a wet “mud” I use for figures based but application would be hard. The dry material seems to give a lot of control.
@@MediocreHobbies Snipe and Wib are Warhammer tubers who look at older codices and so on. Wib commented that he'd love to get a Rogue Trader era Land Raider. For a while they had a post office box where you could send them stuff, if you wanted. About a month and he had something like 20 RT Raiders. :) Wib's working on an RT Lamenters army.
I think you mean the dry palette? It's a textured palette that I got from Artis Opus but you can make you own from corkboard, it's great for getting paint off your brush when you're dry brushing instead of using kitchen paper!
