How to speed up your Tabletop Painting with Contrast Paints!

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You guys ask me all the time why I use contrast paints the way I do, and not the way they are 'supposed' to be used...well this is exactly why! It is So. Much. Quicker. Time is money, especially if you're only getting an hour or so painting time a night, and more and more models start piling up on your backlog. If you're doing a single model, it might not seem like it makes a huge difference, but when you multiply the time saved over an entire army...you'll never go back to 'normal' base coats again!
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@metajock Год назад

Really good comparison. I wasn't as worried about the time as much the quality difference, but you've shown that quality isn't sacrificed at all with a HUGE time saving. Thanks!!!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Anytime pal.

@WorldBleeder Год назад

I was coming to the same conclusion that you point out in this video. Though I hadn't realized it would that drastic of a difference. That's really a huge time savings. Thanks for the video!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Anytime pal. And yes it really is that drastic.

@kevinlaflamme8568 Год назад

I’ve heard you say this in a number of videos and found some positive success with it too. Thanks for your helpful message.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Anytime pal.

@helagenart8143 Год назад

I was the concept artist for this mini! feels super surreal to see it finished and painted!! you did a great job ❤

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

You did an unreal job on it so so good.

@M3T4LV1K1NG Год назад

The thing I love about this is you can easily combine techniques. In your case, if the basecoated skin looks better there's nothing stopping someone from doing that for the skin and use contrast for the other parts.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Exactly pal.

@jamiecourtemanche4495 Год назад

Good comparison. As said it helps speed up. I also like it since gives you good base to know where highlights are naturally occurring. Way I am doing mine is sort of like this. Get it good baseline and can come back later to detail up.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

exactly pal.

@uniquewargamingterrain9125 Год назад

100% I agree with u the speed of contrast is so great especially for hoard army's you are the King of Contrast great video brother

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Hahhaha appreciate you as alway pal.

@frontline989 Год назад

I don’t use your style because I enjoy the style I’ve developed over the years. It’s slow but I haven’t played a game in years and I do it because I enjoy the process but I love watching your videos. It’s super relaxing and for new players looking to get armies painted it’s just about the best I’ve seen on RU-vid.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That's totally understandable, there's different elements of the hobby that appeal to everyone, and if you enjoy the painting process and don't need the speed part to get models done for games, just take your time! I love that you still watch the videos anyway though, thanks so much, really appreciate that!

@pdubb9754 Год назад

Great sculpt. I like the contrast one better. The shadows in the recessess of the cloth and earthen arms pop a little more. The skin tone on the one on the right is warmer, and I can understand how that would be a personal preference. Either way, I want this as my next D&D character.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

It’s a great sculpt make sure you check out dragon trappers. There is so many nice models. Glad you liked the video.

@smolsen91 Год назад

Yes! Just what i was thinking about yesterday, when i saw you painting on stream.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

It was good to see you on stream pal. Always welcome.

@howardcoates6985 Год назад

definitely food for thought here. I am gonna try this, its similar to what i do already, speed paint or contrast then highlights and go... will try a bit more layering and see how it goes.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Glad to hear pal. Tag me in any results I’d love to see it.

@deepfriedjonny90 Год назад

Ok you've convinced me. I'll be base coating with contrast more often now. I only get about 2 hours paint time in a week so this will help me Alot!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Oh great to hear you’ll try it! If you have any questions let me know! Even mentally it’s great to see how much quicker you see your models with paint on them rather than looking at a lot of grey plastic. Remember as well you can always get them to base coats and then go back at any time to layer them up.

@brence1984 Год назад

Not even the time saving but the fact You can kind of easily shade and highlight these as the contrast shows where to basically put down the highlights 🥰. I never liked the look of Contrast on itself, however using them as base, giving them possibly a bit of shading and finishing with normal base or layer paints as highlight looks like such a nice paint-by-numbers way of doing it.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

100% agree

@Balyrion Год назад

I don't think i have ever used a layer on a model ever. It is usually base, wash and highlight. I agree with you though contrast is faster and for that approach also frequently looks better. Great job sir!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Cheers pal. Glad you like it.

@10MinutenAwesomee Год назад

Really nice comparison video! I use alot of Speedpaints and Contrast Paints for my projects to get rid of my pile of shame. But it's really nice to see, that it safes you so much time =) Love from germany as alway :) Max

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Vielen Dank! Really appreciate it! Yes there’s so much to paint, anything that will speed it up is a huge help! Thanks for the comment :)

@daniellupton9701 Год назад

Some really good points you've made in your video. You're normally my go-to when it comes to painting recipes. For me, it comes down to accessibility and time. A lot of the other content creators are using paints which aren't easy to get a hold of or paints that I might only use once for that one particular model; contrast paints are a lot easier to get a hold of. You've really hit on the mark with an equal balance of quality and quantity when it comes to miniature painting.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thank pal. And I 100% agree with the accessibility of paints. I have a pet peeve with painting videos that require 47 different paints from 11 different companies. It makes them so unapproachable.

@scroggie_mini_painting3983 Год назад

Great explanation Andy! For the algorithm 👍🏼

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Cheers pal.

@GoingOffTopical Год назад

I love this mini, reminds me of the siren from Borderlands 3 or Asura's wrath

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Hahaha it does.

@richardwales9674 Год назад

Good video. You find a lot of people don't appreciate the value of their time and even after you've explained it some people still won't get it. I've got a Speedpaint Mega Set 10 hours of my time at work would give me change from that easily. So that argument is a slam dunk for me and once you have the technique down you continue to save 10 hours or thereabouts for a project. Admittedly people don't need a mega set as they'll find they have favourite go to colours for certain bases. I bet you have a set of Favourites... That might be an interesting video? What also might be interesting is what you change your base for flesh to? The only issue for me is that sometimes with your base and a wash you create a really nice colour - to me - which you then cover and or flatten out a bit. However that's personal taste not an issue with the technique. I think a Nurgle Space Marine was one where I thought some of the darker bits after a shade could have been left. However you did say to leave a comment if you'd like to see a dirtier Nurgle Marine. I for one would. 🙂 Another one is Khorne I think the red you use and the shade creates a 'God Tier' - Khorne - bloody red which I would leave a lot of as well. Reasoning for me is Chaos armour is more organic as it becomes part of them - I think when the shade is on you create that organic effect - and I'd want to create a visual difference between Khorne and say Blood Angels. The Imperial armour I think lends itself to a flatter approach anyway. Again though this is personal taste the technique clearly works. It's just adapting it to personal tastes. 🙂 Your explanations and logic are sound as well. I commented on another video where you explained why you do what you do, it's good, insightful and I find it interesting as well. 👍👍👍

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s for taking the time out for that message. I agree 100%. And yes I understand sometimes the layer stage of over done can take some of the punch ought of a scheme. It’s just time and practice to fix it.

@jmc7034 Год назад

It’s through watching your vids that I’ve started to use contrast paints. Keep up the great work

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks so much man, always great hearing my videos are getting more models done. Thank you for the support as always

@fransaacs Год назад

More and more I've been using contrast medium like I would water to dilute both regular base and layer paints and the contrast range. Onto my third pot in a year. Might be time to find a recipe (youtube or reddit?) for a homebrew alternative. Great stuff btw.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Not a bad idea at all. It is great stuff.

@JohnnyTightIips Год назад

I also think using a contrast and a shade looks great in a lot of cases and I'd be happy to play with models up to that standard on the table.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Same as myself pal.

@seththompson2973 Год назад

I would love to see a video where you explain how you choose what paints to base with and how that relates to the paints that you layer with. I have learned so much from your videos and I know that because of you I am a better painter than I was two years ago. I would also love to see your take on Deathwing terminators to see if you would paint the bone armor the same way you paint organic bone. Or I guess you could just tell us in response to this comment how you would do it, either way I can't paint my new Leviathan box terminators until I know. Thank you as always for all that you do for this community.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I’d love to be able to tell people how I do it. Out it’s just how comfortable I am with the paints. And yes detahwing is on the cards soon just for you pal.

@seththompson2973 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies I really appreciate that and I look forward to seeing it.

@ianpatterson123 Год назад

Great video, I use contrast in the same way, will base with them but still highlight up.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Great to hear I'm not alone-it's so much quicker!

@aaronguerrette Год назад

I discovered Andy a few months back and discovered his method and process mirrors mine. I recently built 30x Black Templar Infernus Marines and decided to use his Metallic over black primer. Then i did my mix of Black Templars / Grim Black, then Cloudburst, some thinner. Looks amazing

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Glad your liking the the content pal. And that is a lot of infernus marines.

@leemcalister4125 Год назад

I finally get it. Always wondered why but it's one thing speed!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Speed is everything when you want all the models painted :D

@wolf164d0 Год назад

I do agree with the points you made in this video. I happen to be painting up a Fyreslayers army right now and have not used the contrast paints I bought a while ago so though this army would be my contrast only army. I have found it easy and nice to be able to paint up 1 model in about less than an hour to table top quality very nicely. Time wise this method for sure is helping allow me to paint more when I only have a few hours in a week to do so. I did like the comparison of showing time and how over a longer period the amount of time could be subsantial. Thanks

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Glad you found it helpful pal.

@colinplatt1963 Год назад

Totally agree with your views on painting time. I mostly actually paint historical miniatures, but I'm here cos the techniques you show are as valid in that field, and I'm zooming through 1870 French at the moment. I think really I'm learning two things here, how to paint to a high table top standard quickly, but also, how to NOT be intimidated by large and complex models. So, I'm really happy here!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

That’s so kind pal. Glad the videos are helping and l your very welcome here.

@melsminiloft Год назад

This is so helpful. Sometimes you just need to work faster and have good results in the end and this is a great way to do it. Although occasionally taking your time with a piece you love is fun, not everyone can do that for each mini they own.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yes exactly! If you have a lot of models to get through, you have to be realistic about how much time you can spend painting them all, but for certain projects it's nice to slow down and enjoy it!

@roo1822 Год назад

I love your approach and style. I have been painting my Votann using your methods and while I am still fairly slow, I can't imagine how much longer this would take me using non-contrast paints. I use a mix of Citadel and Vallejo XPress colour as well. Works the same.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks man. Yeah any of the speed paint types can be used in the same way to help make things go faster. Don’t worry about being slow by the way, just enjoy the process!

@Jason-man-in-black Год назад

Very interesting video, I think I’ve said before when contrast was first released I couldn’t get on with them at all, as it’s such a different technique to what I had grown up with and been using for years. But thankfully watching your videos has effectively taught me how to use it so now I incorporate it more and more, and yes it has definitely allowed me to speed up some areas of my painting. Other arenas I still labour over as I prefer the result much like your opinion of the skin in this video. So I think it’s about choosing what you feel is best for each stage, which is certainly what I’m doing now and it’s nearly all thanks to you and your videos, so thanks Andy 🙂

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

I’m glad your giving them a try pal. I think there an amazing tool and help people a lot.

@elastibus843 Год назад

This is an awesome Video

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Cheers pal.

@blitzburn2871 Год назад

This is very much my experience as well. My necrons used to be a bit of a slog since the dark metal of thier joints and inner skeleton took really long to achieve with two coats of Iron Warrior steel and a coat of nuln, but swapping the Iron Warriors for the new AP broadsword silver and the nuln for basilicanum grey speed it up radically since the paints are easier to apply and allowed me to skip a step while getting a better dark metal. Not to mention how much easier things like gauss, plasma, lenses and power weapons become.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yep for sure. It’s such a great tool.

@RP-ck8ym Год назад

Maybe I am doing something wrong, but the contrast method is nor forgiving of mistakes. With standard basecoats you can go back and forth as much as needed. If you make a mistake with the contrast there is not really a way to fix it besides the normal base coating. And if you make a mistake with metallics even tougher.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Of your planning on layering them that’s where the mistakes shall be fixed so I think it can be as forgiving.

@claytonc2481 Год назад

I always appreciate the fact you start with contrast because i get options. Do i like how this paint or detail looks at the basecoat stage? Quite often I do. Is the next step a reasonable challenge? Yes, and im happy to take one or two on. It even helps with what i dread, skin tones and youve opened up my willingness to try more miniatures with that detail as i feel comfortable at the base stage, and you show me what i could achieve with practice. Fantastic work!

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Really happy to read that message pal. Glad the videos are helping.

@ml6158 Год назад

Should definitly do that technique more often.

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Yeah you'd be surprised how much more you get done every week!

@nickdavis5420 Год назад

Man just did this with speed paints today for a set of Soviet heavy infantry and ursas

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Nice pal. You happy with result?

@nickdavis5420 Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies yeah it turned out great !

@sitasama Год назад

Your way of doing is valuable and I like the results. Question : I have difficulties to use Contrast on big flat zone like on the sm. Have you à tip for that case ?

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Thanks so much! I have videos on using contrast paints on space marines, dreadnoughts and tanks! If you're going to be layering up afterwards anyway then don't worry too much about the contrast paints looking splotchy, but if you want to see how to get a smooth looking coat in one go then check out my Black Templars playlist!

@sitasama Год назад

@@MediocreHobbies thx a lot, i will ;-)

@rozzer666 Год назад

I like the idea but when I tried it recently I'm not neat enough to do it all without overlapping mistakes

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

It’s okay to make mistakes when you’ll be layering over anyway, my tutorials teach you the colours to use in the right order to take so it’s easier to correct mistakes as you go.

@garymartin8386 Год назад

Not sure if it's already been asked but if you save 10 minutes per model using contrast, but then go over it again with layers how much of that 10 minutes are you using? (Sort of time saved but then spent...)

@MediocreHobbies Год назад

Watch the whole video, I think you missed a bit😄 I’d always layer over both anyway! The idea is saving time where you can, and if most people put down a base coat and then shade it, then layer it, the time saved with contrast paints vs normal base coats is still time saved. There’s no extra work if you use contrast paints, and for many of my contrast paint space marines I don’t even need to layer them.