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How to Splice Thermostat / Control Wire with the "NASA Splice" 

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In this video, we cover how to splice thermostat or control wire with a lineman's splice, also known as a Western Union Splice or NASA splice, using a soldering iron and heat shrink.
We often see substandard splices on low-voltage wires; you may see a splice consisting of a ball of wire nuts and electrical tape. Lineman's splices work well for underground low-voltage wires when rewiring isn't practical. These splices work well because they are tight, can handle a lot of tension, and won't corrode over time.
A lineman's splice requires us to cut out the source of the short and strip the wire back. Make sure you pull the casing back far enough to have plenty of room to work with the wires. We cut off the loose casing AND the wire tips. You'll want to splice every single wire, even if you don't think you'll use them all, because someone may need to use those wires later.
When splicing one conductor, we only need 1 1/2" of heat shrink, so you may choose to cut the heat shrink if it's too long. (Half-inch heat shrink works for the outside jacket, and 1/8" heat shrink works for the inside conductors.) Fit the heat shrink over the wire BEFORE you solder the splice; otherwise, you won't be able to get the heat shrink on. Keep the heat shrink AWAY from the splice as you solder it, as the heat can make it shrink down.
Once you've created a connection by twisting the wires, you can solder the conductors. Once you've soldered the connection, you can slide the heat shrink over the splice. Before you apply the heat, make sure there aren't any bare wires. It's best to have at least 6-8" of wire on each side for the splice to be practical.
Note: Do NOT use this splice without soldering it.
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@Dave_Thomason
@Dave_Thomason 7 лет назад
Nice video. I definitely learned something new. How ever I will never be busting out eye protection much less a soldering iron with a full work load in the dead of summer laid across ceiling joists where the roof meets the wall in the attic to make a low voltage splice. It just ain't happening.
@sinistersparky9657
@sinistersparky9657 5 лет назад
To the folks who say "it takes too long" to do this type of splice - It *doesn't take too long*. This is the appropriate splice to use OUTSIDE or any WET LOCATION. the heat shrink tubing isn't necessary in an attic, this splice can be done with electrical tape indoors. I have used this splice literally thousands of times and it can be done MUCH faster. The point is that this repair will take about 15 minutes for a skilled journeyman to do. Assuming the customer hit the t-stat cable with a string trimmer (a relatively common problem), a competant service technician will spend about a half hour onsite to troubleshoot, repair, and test this problem using a good butane soldering iron (I use the Master Appliance Ultra-Torch UT100SI) and being mentally organized for the task. The UT100 has a hot air tip to shrink the tubing also. However, a ball of wire nuts and a wad of electrical tape will ONLY KEEP THE MOISTURE IN THE CONNECTORS. Electrical tape is the worst thing to use in a wet location! This will be ANOTHER service call, an UNHAPPY CUSTOMER, and YOU earning the label of a HACK. Good workmanship doesn't take too much time, at takes exactly the right amount of time, so use the appropriate type of connection for the application! In an attic, a splice can be done with wire nuts, B-caps, Bean crimps, UR connectors (up to 19 AWG) and a host of other methods, including soldering. Soldering is the most secure, permanent connection you can make. Period. Take pride in your work please, it costs about 10 times more money to send a service technician out to fix your crappy work than it does for you to do it right in the first place so please take pride in good craftsmanship, it's cheaper I. the long run
@michaelbearse4733
@michaelbearse4733 4 года назад
That's the attitude to have!! Stand by everything you do!! Own it. Cause your names on it!!
@ShadowGamer-sg7ix
@ShadowGamer-sg7ix 6 лет назад
This is a great way to splice wires... just not on the clock! I would get fired for doing this! Lol love the video tho! But seriously, at some point the time it takes is to do something like this makes it totally impractical.
@curtisroberts9137
@curtisroberts9137 4 года назад
Incredibly professional way to repair wires. Time consuming but the right way to do it.
@burtwallace841
@burtwallace841 6 лет назад
Stagger the splices, so that you don't get a big knot. The splice will be next to an unspliced, insulated wire. Just strip the wires a little more.
@davidswalec3598
@davidswalec3598 3 года назад
I never felt my splices were good enough, now I understand I have not been cuing the happy music while working. Thanks. Also nice explanation.
@RodneyFisk
@RodneyFisk 3 года назад
This was a good explanation of a Western Union splice. This is impractical for field work. I use butt connectors and shrink wrap. I then zip tie the cable to the suction line, snugly, on both sides of the splice. I've never had one pull apart. If anyone wants to insist on doing this in the field, Amazon carries butane soldering irons. They are super convenient.
@secondwindmusicproductions
@secondwindmusicproductions 4 года назад
I learned this splice in HS shop class back in the 50s. It was used for home electrical wiring before roamex. We didn't have shrink tubing though, just old cloth electrical tape.
@dleyba4945
@dleyba4945 2 года назад
I still have cloth wiring in my house lol
@geoffhoweth
@geoffhoweth 7 лет назад
I would use Solder Seal Heat Shrink Butt Connectors
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 года назад
Total Junk!
@mechacc2000
@mechacc2000 6 лет назад
Good information on splicing. Wish that folks that like to wire nut splice in areas that become inaccessible without tearing out walls etc. would do these splices. Another Video on NASA splicing showed that the wires are to be tinned prior to splicing then soldered again. They even showed a copy of the NASA requirements for the splice.
@willardearl76
@willardearl76 7 лет назад
next time do it at 3 pm on a friday in the rain on a ballasted roof, seriously, great video, thanks!
@doogiemcdougster6740
@doogiemcdougster6740 2 года назад
Thanks for making this video. My thermostat keeps throwing an error about communicating with the condenser, so I guess it’s time to actually fix the weedeater damage I created years ago. Now I know how to do it properly thanks to your video.
@michaelbt6777
@michaelbt6777 7 лет назад
Nice work. But is not going to happen.
@daviddelgado475
@daviddelgado475 5 лет назад
Awesome video! But I was born with one hand and am planning to attend HVAC school and was feeling hopeful about wire nuts and e-tape. This scared the crap out of me hehehe, nah anything is possible great job it's just something I would do for my family or friends i guess cause i think it's solid. But I imagine on the clock the company would not be happy. You are very gifted sir!
@papoloco34
@papoloco34 7 лет назад
Nice video Bryan 👍 👍 👍 keep the ball rolling man!!!
@neilcomparetto5282
@neilcomparetto5282 7 лет назад
This is best practice, no doubt. I appreciated you throwing in some alternative methods that might be more practical.... If the wire is concealed this is the way to go. Otherwise probably cost prohibitive, IMO. Great tutorial, well done!
@HVACS
@HVACS 7 лет назад
I would say it's not going to practical in most cases. Heat shrink butt crimp connectors staggered with shrink over the top is the next level down I would think and prob would take half the time.
@neilcomparetto5282
@neilcomparetto5282 7 лет назад
That would be a good alternative. I'm OCD/Best Practice boy, you definitely have me thinking about my methods.
@aostrovskyy
@aostrovskyy 7 лет назад
Customers gona pay NASA price! They love astronomical bill
@rodgraff1782
@rodgraff1782 5 лет назад
Heat shrink butt connectors, they are used for underwater well pump motors at line voltage, so they would be good enough for stat wire. The marine type are best as the also have glue, and can be had in very small sizes
@brettknoss486
@brettknoss486 5 лет назад
NASA spec is 5 turns each side for a Western Union splice, and splices are to be staggered, to minimize overall thickness of the harness.
@MrMultitool
@MrMultitool 7 лет назад
That's a very nice splice. We were taught that way in tech school a long time ago.
@pingpong9656
@pingpong9656 2 года назад
My favorite splice is to tin the ends of the wire, place tinned wire ends together in parallel and run some solder joint between them - rock solid and easy to de solder if need be.
@croutside8386
@croutside8386 3 года назад
Great idea, but ain't nobody got time for that! Maybe on my own home.
@gyrgrls
@gyrgrls 6 лет назад
Shorted wires are why I usually stagger the splices. Then only every other splice needs the small heat shrink covering (wherever the splices actually overlap. It goes faster and leaves a much slimmer bulge. On four conductor cables, or on speaker cables, you only need one or two pieces of HST over the whole splice area. Since the wires are being soldered, they're not moving or coming apart...
@rexjames4038
@rexjames4038 3 года назад
Have never seen that done with t stat wire but I like it it’s a more professional looking connection
@eric4467
@eric4467 7 лет назад
Looks alot better than a ball of wire nuts. Have a feeling My boss would be calling to check on me though!
@jasoncurtis4404
@jasoncurtis4404 5 лет назад
I can run a whole new wire in this amount of time.
@416RG
@416RG 3 года назад
😂
@SoutheastTx
@SoutheastTx 3 года назад
1yr later lmfao 😂
@jimgill5706
@jimgill5706 7 лет назад
On small jobs like this I solder and heat shrink with a Dremel brulee torch. Good video.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 года назад
Most pros don't solder wires or shrink tubing with a torch. You probable picked that up from one of the reality car shows on cable TV.
@ramirezmanuel117
@ramirezmanuel117 3 года назад
I wanna carry this stuff so i can charge customers for "optimized splice" lol
@barberhvac3438
@barberhvac3438 6 лет назад
Nodoubt the best way to do it. But I can just imagine dispatch calling me and ask me why it's taking so long
@pierceh785
@pierceh785 2 года назад
Ahh yes so this is what my company I work for just bought and wants us to use, I’ve still been using good ol wire nuts but maybe when things start cooling down I’ll start using it
@accurateoneelectrical3502
@accurateoneelectrical3502 5 лет назад
Holly hell that is some extreme half-hot work. Lol I like it though cant wait to see an apprentice get caught spending all day trying it🤣
@corymosiman9426
@corymosiman9426 2 года назад
I just used some solder seal wire connectors the other day and they worked very nicely for splicing. Maybe a good follow on video?
@RobHVAC
@RobHVAC 7 лет назад
I always try to pull a whole new wire when possible. Nice vid
@TimothyNaugher
@TimothyNaugher 7 лет назад
Rob HVAC Yes. This is a great video for splicing. But in my area where we have basements, it's likely quicker to run a new wire. Still a very good practice to learn and have if ever needed.
@jagboy69
@jagboy69 4 года назад
Nothing makes my wallet smile more than a call where the home owner wrapped his wires around the head of his weed eater. I now place all low voltage wire inside a piece of 3/8 copper pipe. Never to need splicing again. Why is this a hard concept for companies?
@mattprocious4631
@mattprocious4631 3 года назад
That is an actual good idea in the RU-vid comments.. you should be making videos.
@jagboy69
@jagboy69 3 года назад
@@mattprocious4631 I do have a channel... NO one watches it. Not that I really care. I refuse to ever monetize it as I hate commercials and begging for subs and likes. ;-)
@kennethward5008
@kennethward5008 7 лет назад
Great job Bryan!
@MrNaildriver01
@MrNaildriver01 6 лет назад
I've done this before but not for hvac application. However if putting it out in the weather I would use marine grade shrink tube its much thicker and made to resist sun and salt damage. Normal shrink tubing will not last long in the sun and weather.
@DJV94022
@DJV94022 Год назад
Its the same thickness at the brown cover 🤷‍♂️ people just think about stuff too much
@2011JRM
@2011JRM 6 лет назад
Soldering with a different metal (than the copper conductor) won't become an issue? Well done video, btw, Brian... Thank you!
@DBYNOE
@DBYNOE 6 лет назад
All fine and good but HVAC folks charge $95/hr, there's got to be a more cost effective way. Do they have small weather and UV resistant splice boxes? Cause that looked like $200 worth of labor.
@jbecker386
@jbecker386 4 года назад
I use staggered small blue wire nuts turned up, and pull the whole length of wire including the splice through 1/2" LFNC which is how it should've been installed in the first place. One stipulation - the conduit must be configured so it can drain.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 года назад
The best soldering gun you can get your hands on is a Weller GT7A Gun with a 120V, 150W, 700°F Power Head. It's temperature controlled so you can just keep the trigger pulled while you are soldering and it weighs less than a pound. Once you use one of these you will never go back to one of those 10 pound burners your grandfather used. They are a little hard to find but the best place to find one that I have found is eBay.
@skirnir-atf
@skirnir-atf 4 года назад
Nice. I use this splice before, but even don`t know IT`S THE NASA SPLICE )))) (realy wery strong and good splice)
@zlee11
@zlee11 4 года назад
Thank you for the video. Why is it necessary to solder the wires? Wouldn’t twisting and heat shrink be sufficient.
@rpsmith
@rpsmith 3 года назад
No! copper corrodes over time and the joint starts acting like a resistor. Also, the main reason to twist the wires together is to keep them from moving while you solder them. So only a few twist is all you really need.
@dgsrks102030
@dgsrks102030 2 года назад
If I am invited on the space shuttle , this is going to be a need to know .
@hvacslayer2929
@hvacslayer2929 5 лет назад
Unit is down, customers are getting hot! “Hey so what’s the eta on getting the unit back up and cooling” Me- “oh I’m just waiting on my heat gun to warm up and then I can solder and then heat shrink” Boss- “Get the fuck off the roof and go home for the day”
@DJV94022
@DJV94022 Год назад
I work in new construction hvac-r and here the townhomes that are in within city limits they tend to steal the copper and they cut the thermo wire of course ive thought about just soldering but the company always just wants new wire in the rough stage its faster and easier to just run new wire times that by 8units per building so yeah i would do this if the house is trim stage
@StephenRardon
@StephenRardon 7 лет назад
People think using the iManifold takes forever! LOL
@HVACS
@HVACS 7 лет назад
Yes... This is NOT a time saver :-)
@StephenRardon
@StephenRardon 7 лет назад
HVAC School the iManifold doesn't take that long though.
@neilcomparetto5282
@neilcomparetto5282 7 лет назад
Stephen, I think when someone doesn't want to do something, "it takes forever". I tried to get our service guys to check static pressure and system capacity. They tried for about a day and a half and ran back to my boss screaming "it takes too long". If they would of given themselves a little time to get proficient at it they would be better techs today... some dogs don't hunt.
@badbanano
@badbanano 7 лет назад
Ya know, all respect considered, it's a Western Union splice, and always has been. Stop changing things. I see it everyday and it's just not necessary to reinvent the wheel.
@meyerjeff
@meyerjeff 7 лет назад
I hope some day you will reshoot this video with you sitting and the camera held still as you do the various steps. Narrating more of the sub-steps would be great. (We can’t read your mind.). Thank you for hearing me - I really want to learn this technique.
@AndrewsRChelis
@AndrewsRChelis 2 года назад
Hold the trigger heat the tip up first then heat the wire.
@sassyg1962
@sassyg1962 2 года назад
Except whatever southwire uses to insulate these wires instantly softens and disintegrates when solder touches the bare wire within a foot of it.
@f1reguy587
@f1reguy587 3 года назад
..or you can use the heat shrink insulated crimps because in an appliance there’s no spare 8 inches of wire. Or a decent amount of space to fit a soldering iron. But I get it.
@kennethdandurand3472
@kennethdandurand3472 3 года назад
Having done a lot of these, I immediately noticed at 6:00, the heat shrink is hot and compressed on the wire. But you cut away (maybe to fix the heat shrink?)..... Opps, at 9:00 you cover it. Sorry!
@whitesheatingairappliancer7101
nice video thank you. I don't know if there's a RURAL King store in your area, Rural King Sales a box of shrink tape for $4.00.
@ClimatronACInc
@ClimatronACInc 5 лет назад
After hourly wage and materials it would've been cheaper to run a whole new wire...also, if it was of any importance, ex: used for an inverter or as a communication cable it would be run in a conduit or would have to run a waterproof insulated cable. Especially if it goes underground.
@ChiDraconis
@ChiDraconis 4 года назад
Foam insulation wrap painted white on the return? I kept one good roll of aluminum HAVC tape from my 3 years at a shop and nothing else is as strong for many DIY that I have to do to survive; I forgot what the low-pressure return is called on the condenser but aluminum HAVC tape should not only last longer but provide shielding from a few common vermin;
@peterdarlington4117
@peterdarlington4117 5 лет назад
What’s that a $300 splice?
@stanwei157
@stanwei157 5 лет назад
If you want to splice the wires with 24 v power alive cut one wire each time. Otherwise, turn off power to 24-volt control transformer before you cut cable all at once you will burnout fuse or transformer.
@jackwgn
@jackwgn 3 года назад
The time it takes to splice and solder each wire. I would have already ran new thermostat wire, I wouldn't recommend this, unless it's the last job on your schedule and you want to milk the clock or something
@alfredo8431
@alfredo8431 2 года назад
Lol the kid flyby
@damonjenkins2185
@damonjenkins2185 4 года назад
I think we should just use double insulated control wiring to make it less likely to need splicing
@Patnaples5881
@Patnaples5881 2 года назад
Your company is in Florida, I assume you live in Florida, and I don’t see any Palm trees, what’s wrong with this picture??
@CertifiedGasSystems
@CertifiedGasSystems 4 года назад
How about wire ties and liquid tape inside each tie.
@Silky_boi
@Silky_boi 4 года назад
How well does this work for communicating systems that use DC voltage?
@howardhoward5694
@howardhoward5694 4 года назад
Give me some blue wire nuts and no tape and I'll get the job done lol .
@itsGreghere
@itsGreghere 3 года назад
lol "put this in your mouth immediately in order to cool it"
@ditch9802
@ditch9802 4 года назад
Yes. It did hurt.
@hangngoaigiare
@hangngoaigiare 4 года назад
Underground and exposed? May not meet NEC code.
@HVACS
@HVACS 4 года назад
It’s control cable NEC doesn’t care
@eag21tx1
@eag21tx1 4 года назад
They teaches that an electrical school that's nothing new but you don't need to solder a you
@williamtripp4438
@williamtripp4438 9 месяцев назад
When you’re paid hourly
@cameltoast
@cameltoast 4 года назад
Flux can work magic!
@thecurious6721
@thecurious6721 Год назад
I am wondering if any hvac tech ever splice wires that way 🤔
@JohnH1370
@JohnH1370 Год назад
Old western union splice
@veijolalli326
@veijolalli326 6 лет назад
That kind of shrink tube is no good - you must use one with glue inside.
@DigitalRaider1
@DigitalRaider1 5 лет назад
Do spliced wiring in Attic on furnace need to be in a junction box?
@driftingabstract4076
@driftingabstract4076 4 года назад
High voltage needs to be in JB
@tairdudeusa7981
@tairdudeusa7981 5 лет назад
I'm sorry but I would use a jelly crimps and ran 2 more calls that day. I would have a much better waterproof connection.
@fludrbywest3886
@fludrbywest3886 3 месяца назад
Great work ❤ my thumbs suck the are starters
@randymack1782
@randymack1782 4 года назад
NASA HUMPH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I may just be studying this trade, but both of my parents were Western Union, & my dad was in Signal Corps in Army during Korean Conflict. then WU for 33 years until his death in the 1980's my mom was WU until I was born in the late 60's, WU invented it around 100 years before NASA, which was started in 1958, WU was 1851. I actually been doing WU connections since I was a kid in single digits, & solder it, thats the way my parents insisted. next if you have the room, you did it wrong! I just saw your typed comment on expert level of splicing like this, splice 1 wire every 2" if possible so you do not have a big pregnant section of wire, & I know, not always possible, but looks so much more professional. did that many times putting taller bars on motorcycles, many times adding 12" or more to wiring for ape hangers. also those gloves are bad. let a drop of solder hit & melt through the cloth section, I had spark from welding just tacking melt right through a few years ago. but otherwise great video, & I had to give you a little Hell over the WU since I was raised in the old days and saw & was around old machines.
@deadmanswife3625
@deadmanswife3625 3 года назад
Great post Randy
@addison2416
@addison2416 4 года назад
If Zach doesn’t do it I’m not doing it.
@MarkJones-no2zf
@MarkJones-no2zf 5 лет назад
Not supposed to use crimp connectors on solid wires
@saywhatnow8189
@saywhatnow8189 5 лет назад
Crimp connection and e tape is fine I would be fired for spending this much time on a wire short time is money my friend great job but just a little over kill if you ask me
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 6 лет назад
There are a million ways to skin a cat , it is easier to lay the wires parallel , tape them together , strip twist and solder conductors , slip shrink over ends and wrap with tape .
@scottriddle5468
@scottriddle5468 6 лет назад
Cool , but most guys are not having it.
@joselanda8316
@joselanda8316 2 года назад
Who in the world has a whole hour to splice some low voltage wire on the job though? 🤔
@jerry_phillips
@jerry_phillips 3 года назад
Apparently time is not money in your neck of the woods.
@jimbola77
@jimbola77 7 лет назад
solder is the best iv'e seen guy's put butt connector's.
@natep1661
@natep1661 4 года назад
Looks good. But not feasible in reality.
@armentasheatingcooling7314
@armentasheatingcooling7314 3 года назад
You must charge an additional $175 to reconnect a shorted low voltage wire. SMH!!! I can't imagine trying to do something like that in a crawl space or attic. Lol!
@ahmetkrasniqi2430
@ahmetkrasniqi2430 5 лет назад
Just turned a 2min job to a 2hr job 😳
@ivanenriquez4564
@ivanenriquez4564 6 лет назад
Failed to met NASA SPECS . According to NASA-STD-8739.4A - 19.7.1.a The conductors shall be pre-tinned
@ivanenriquez4564
@ivanenriquez4564 6 лет назад
In addition workmanship counts . Standard dictates that there shall be at least 3 turns around each conductor and the wraps shall be tight with no gaps between adjacent turns .
@awesomeaustin2348
@awesomeaustin2348 5 лет назад
NOPE !!!
@DJV94022
@DJV94022 Год назад
Soldering and heatshrink is easy its just the gun he used is the worst to ever use in life
@jewdali1
@jewdali1 7 лет назад
Why you call it NASA splice ? This is what all electricians do in other countries
@HVACS
@HVACS 7 лет назад
It's just what NASA specs so a lot of people call it that
@jewdali1
@jewdali1 7 лет назад
Thank you
@ivanenriquez4564
@ivanenriquez4564 6 лет назад
Actually NASA has specifications for more splices than this lineman splice
@tyhuffman5447
@tyhuffman5447 5 лет назад
That's really cool, I had seen that splice before and even used it once or twice but I never knew the name. Thanks. If you want to mod your soLdering iron (no more waiting for heat) check out Mr. Carlson's Lab episode: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-79uD6XwBg5E.html You appear stressed, if you get your coffee fix just right the jitters go away.
@jcaleca60
@jcaleca60 3 года назад
In the real world this place is never going to happen people don't want to pay as it is the other way seems to work and it's cheap and people like that if I did that my boss would fire me takes too much time unless we're getting paid by the hour laugh out loud
@chriswalker2393
@chriswalker2393 4 года назад
NOT happening in the real world
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