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i really hope someone sees this and think "I dont care if Im successful! I just wanna have FUN!" and then become like the band who changes the whole music history
THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO BE. Have a nice form of rock and play some shows, get a guy looking to be our manager one day down the line, play larger gigs all while still having fun
I cant rly do that but I desperately want to. I can barely write a song but there's one I've been working on since June which I work on every week sometimes. I'm definitely not old enough to get in bars and clubs but I hope my college music section let's me mesh with their students.
As the vocalist for my band, here’s tips for beginner vocalists: 1: KNOW WHAT GENRE YOUR BAND IS! This helps a ton when you are figuring out your range 2: You don’t need to add unnecessary adlibs to everything 3: don’t be cocky or full of yourself. Just because your the “singer” of the band does NOT mean you’re the most important
Very, very true. My sister is an excellent singer and even released an album. She can’t play ANY instruments. So as far as I’m concerned, she’s not a musician.
@@LargoeEmbargo when I said you’re not the most important if you’re the vocalist that doesn’t mean you aren’t important at all, it just means don’t try and be better than everyone. Being apart of a band is a team effort and not one guy and his backup dancers
@@totallyfrozen being a vocalist still means you’re a musician. I play instruments as well as sing HOWEVER if you ONLY sing you’re still a musician because you’re making music with your voice. You don’t have to play an instrument to be musical
I would have agreed on this a few years back, but... Having good stamina as a drummer is really important, it will make playing easier, especially faster songs are easier to nail. Another big benefit is, is that you can be better on stage, instead of sweating your balls off trying to hit the final bars of your 240BPM deathmetal song you can move your body around, swing your sticks, look into the crowd, and believe me, being a good showman is totally worth going running twice a week. Being a good showman is 50% of being a 'succesfull' band. So yeah, go to the gym a few times a month or run a few times a week, even just drumming for long periods of time will boost your stamina. Beleive me, It'll help you a lot trying to get shows at decently sized venue's.
CaptainSloth I work out my arms everyday, and I run for school. I meant nobody knows that the drummer gets tired, unless you’ve been playing too long and then you complain. then they call you lazy and they say you complain too much, when they’re just moving their fingers a little
@@roentjen True, and taking a break is fine, but I've seen a few drummers that need breaks every 2-3 songs. imo you should be able to play atleast 30-60 minutes at a time depending on the genre.
i agree. i exercise my arms everyday to keep my strength for band practice. people are like where do u get ur muscles?? and i’m like *oh i got them from playing the drums*
literally what i did (sort of). one of my besties isnt a musician but is learning guitar so im helping her, my other two friends dont take the "band" seriously so its mainly us two practicing
@@cocainestupor1206 You guys need better bandmates, its a common misconception that you need to disrespect the bassist, it's the drummer... lets be real.
Nate: "If you're a drummer you should know how to play..." Me, a drummer who is only able to play Come Together: *holds breath* Nate: "...Come Together." Me: *exhales*
I always tell people two pieces of advice when starting a band: 1. Demonstrate your value first. -Start demoing out ideas -Record videos of you playing -If you want quality candidates for band members you need materials to prove yourself. 2. Go to local shows and network. -It’s a massive gesture to other bands in your scene just to do the bare minimum and show up. Local bands are deprived of attention. -You are most likely to find like minded musicians at these small local shows. Tell people you’re starting a band and looking for members.
yeah I have advice for the songs. - Songs must have 2-4 verses, and 3 choruses maximum. - Outros are very cool, especially shorter ones like the end of Trapdoor by twenty one pilots. - Use digital instruments if you have to!
Once I tried to start a Dead Kennedys cover band easy right? I played everything except the bass so I only needed 1 other person. Ended up with some hippie stoner guy who couldnt learn even 1 SONG from smoking too much dope
What if the local science is non-existent cause I live in the middle of nowhere? I'm not trying to be a smartass, just curious. The nearest club is an hour away from my house lol
Well i lasted the longest it took me about 5-6 minutes (his statement about cover bands) since i do plan to write my own songs but i plan to cover njrvana songs as more like a passion project secondary draw
@@nekozombie Yea, when I play it with my friends, the guitarist only comes in for the solo and instrumental, but bass is played the whole song. White Stripes was only comprised of Jack and Meg, so rip bass
You should play in a band because it’s fun. The goal of art isn’t to be good, it’s to enjoy yourself. Play with your friends, practice until you have at least half an hour of material down as perfect as you can get it. Then, ask to play some shows. The money will be bad. You shouldn’t think about the money. 100% of the people that come to see you will have no investment in your music whatsoever, they just want to see live music. If you are good, which you probably aren’t, you might get noticed by someone. Don’t get your hopes up. Your band sucks, and that’s ok. It’s good, even. It means you have nothing to lose, you’re only doing it because it’s fun. That’s what it’s all about.
There's an anime titled "Bocchi The Rock!" which encapsulates that feeling of playing your first gig with several people in the audience you can count on your two hands. I don't mind playing for a few people but I definitely would invite people I know to check us out to get at least two claps .
8 years full timer with tips to add. Building your set list: 1. Pick a song(s) 2. Everyone learn your parts individually 3. Run thru at soundcheck (goal is to get this down to 'once') 4. Don't be the one who didn't learn your part Also, there are only 4 reasons to pull a 'no show' for a gig, session, rehearsal: 1. Your personal death 2. Hostage 3. Hospitalization 4. Jail If you can find a group of people to honor this simple rule set (even if you can't stand each other) you'll have established the trajectory needed to maintain and improve your craft.
I wouldn’t agree with the “can’t stand each other” part. If you want to start a band, make sure you’re on good terms. A band that doesn’t have good chemistry won’t be able to succeed.
I don’t know if anyone needs this to hear this, but I just played my first gig yesterday evening. I remember seeing this a few months after it coming out and thinking I could never sing/learn an instrument and that music was just something I would have to stick to consuming rather than actually doing myself because of my dyspraxia (a hand-eye coordination disorder) and also my general insecurity. Then, a couple of months after I turned 14 I decided to get serious with learning guitar and singing in earnest. A bit under a year and a half later and I sang and played to a crowd of about 40 cheering people. I still can’t play or sing by the way!
im 15, and started piano since i was 5. but i quit after 8 yrs, at 13yo. i mean i can still play piano obvi, but i cant sight read instantly, i dont have perfect pitch either, etc. my friend (not a musician but is taking guitar lessons rn) and i are more serious about this band, idk who else to really 'recruit' cause most people i know are pianists and i cant really do anything other than piano 😭😭 i do know a bassist and drummer but im not really close to them
@@TamWam_ As others suggested and in this video, you should probably attend local events maybe you can find people you can form a band with; you'll probably see the bassist and drummer you know in an event; it's important to be able to communicate though because people won't know you're interested unless you told them so. Good luck .
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What if someone played every instrument and also did vocals and then put them together for songs. And made a whole thriving band this way. You couldn't play live but, you could do only vocals for example.
I think covers aren't so bad necessarily; sometimes people just want to hear the music they like live. And it's soo much easier to get gigs with a repertoire that people actually wants to hear
My opinion has always been that covers are expected wherever food is served. Nobody wants to be stuck eating while a band debuts lyrics that make eyes roll off heads. Prioritize playing covers if your audience can’t escape or else be really really sure your material fits the venue.
@@electricfishfan Agree with this. Covers are for venues where most people want some familiar background noise. At the local punk scene you can play originals as long as it is fast and fun and nobody cares.
fully agree. My band’s first show was 100% covers, partially because we didn’t have any full originals, but also because the most fun i have at local shows is hearing them play songs i know and being able to sing along and see how they put their own spin on it. Especially at local shows where any loud music tends to just sound generically “hardcore” i think knowing the song and hearing how it deviates in their performance is much more entertaining
@@vermillion2023 I mean at a small club venue 90% of what you need to do to get remembered is stage presence because 90% of what you plat is gonna sound like a muddied mess of distortion and cymbals lmao. But also I feel like covers are more memorable because they show off the actual skill of the band (if there's any sort of decent sound control going on) if that makes sense.
Drummer: plays chop suey Bass: plays seven nation army Guitar: plays margaritaville (Jimmy buffet) Vocalist: "and the rain will kill us all, throw our selves against the wall"
Actually! There's this band called chon and their song "no signal" was basically the drummer playing 4/4 beat while the guitars and bass play 15/16 (fun fact)
Very interesting song. The beginning almost sounds like it's using microrhythms, and you get a bit of that phasing effect you have with polyrhythms when the drums come in. I like it
5:54 . This is really relatable. I had a 6 hour session once, and at the end I went to see the drummer and he was laying out on the floor, completely shattered.
As a salty band veteran I loved this video! You’re doing a beautiful thing here. Help the kids keep live music alive! I found everything in this rather spot on. I’m here still trying to further my education on the band life.
I really could have used some of this advice a few months ago, but my band figured it out. Some more tips: • make sure the name is original and MEMORABLE • don’t take any gigs you’re not ready for. even if it sounds like a lot of fun, it probably won’t be if you get up there with two covers and nothing else. • get a good long set so you’ll be prepared for anything • this shit takes a lot more time and energy than you might think. make sure you’re not too busy with other commitments • talk to people. as a person with a fair amount of anxiety, it can get really hard. but you gotta thank y’all for coming to my ted talk
beth marie hey bro you tryna give me some in detail tips? My friends and i have been thinking we should start a band considering we all play different instruments, bass drums guitar vocalist. We all have at least one of those skills. And we all like the same thrash metal music. But hey for real though what should we expect coming into this
I always say: Everyone who can play an instrument wants to start a band, but few want to do the work it takes to start a band. The boring stuff is the most important part. The biggest issue I always had is that when it comes to actually practicing, coordinating our playing and sound, writing, etc you can get them to focus. You don't want to leave any tiny detail up to chance. Even improvised things need to be practiced in a sense. Remember, how everyone else plays reflects on you. No one is going to notice you're playing well when your drummer can't keep time. Everyone always gives crap to the Paul McCartney's of groups who they act like are stick in the muds that don't have fun, but their incessant nagging to get the fundamentals is why you sound decent at all.
@@Tangerine2600 you do realize that most famous rock bands were told to “get real” “it’ll never happen” “that’s a childish dream” we need more motivation in this world, you sound like the stereotypical chad dad telling his son he’ll never make it as a rockstar
Thank you for releasing this video. I watched this 4 years ago and I've been working hard and played my first thrash metal concert last night for 100 people in the middle of nowhere idaho. I owe you everything Nate, thank you.
Lucky me i get to live in washington dc the one upside from the constant rioting and crime is that we got a great music scene with dave grohls music club
@@michaelfeeney9147 I mean I live in a town of 20,000 people where the nearest city is 3 hours away, and also I'm a metalhead in the year 2021, I've never someone in a band in my entire life. What would this hypothetical scene you're describing even look like?
literally everything you said made me more motivated to actually make a band. wish it wasnt 2:30 am because now im motivated to learn the bass more but instead i should definately be sleeping.
Ok. To all teens wondering how to start a rock band when you don’t know anyone who plays an instrument that likes rock: join a rock camp! It sounds stupid, but i know a group of girls, ages 13-16, who started out at a rock camp when they were ten, and they just got off their summer tour around america. i joined a rock camp a year ago and im playing a festival with my band in may. Seriously, go find a local rock camp.
Me: finally realizes, that my high school friends suck at showing up AT ALL Me: wants to go to concerts to maybe find some people to play with Covid-19: I'm about to end this man's whole PLANS FOR 2020
Watched this a bunch in 2020 and with 100% certainty he's right. It's hella hard and super discouraging to play in a band. Thankfully I (mostly) pulled it together and now have a band with a single released, a show and an upcoming EP. So gotta thank this dude for the motivation
lmao fr i’m 13 and got my first fender strat the other night and i’ve been progressing pretty fast and good but since i’m 13 in 2019 everyone listens to shitty rap and new wave hip hop .. it’s gonna be hard for me to find jam buddies but next year i’ll be in high school and hopefully i can find some cool people there. have a good day
@@jack-uf6vv It takes some time. It took me a while to pull together a vocalist and two guitarists (I'm the drummer). Finding a bassist will be a bigger pain. But in 2019, I managed to find a group of kids that play instruments and like metal for my band. Keep at it brother, you'll make it. Ps. High school is a way better place to find people who share your interests. Good luck bro.
Just did my first real local gig last night, and this dude is bang on right. Only thing I would say that I disagree with is about merch at your first gig, bring Demo CD's & any other little cheap things you can make, BUT GIVE THEM AWAY! Everybody LOVES FREE SHIT, and 90% of the world has the ability to play CD's, so if you make something decently listenable (not a phone recording... or any raw recording) chances are they will throw it in the car and give a listen on the way home or the next day or whatever.
@@jaberjjr Very rushed. The guy organising all the musicians (2nd band), not gonna name names, didn't send everyone a copy of the set times that the venue wanted. (Would've saved a lot of hastle!) So we thought we were getting there an hour early, turns out we were nearly an hour late so we had to set everything up asap, half our friends missed our show, and everyone had to shave a bit off their set. So yeah, when organising a gig make a group chat with every performer for the night, and put the definitive set times there for everyone to see.
as someone who also has performed live, this is true. another bit of advice is how important stage presence is. don’t just stand on the stage looking at the ceiling, jump around and have fun. it gets the crowd going more if they can tell that you are having fun. if you don’t know what to do specifically, the ol reliable is to just headbang edit: i didn’t watch the whole video before commenting, and he just talked about it
Couple of extra bits that I've learnt from experience. 1) if you are lucky enough to fall into a scene, as much as you like the genre or what came before to create the genre, try to bring something new to it. 2) spend the money in your recordings. There are very very many "paywalls" within the music world. If you pour your money into anything, it should be recording. For a point of reference, the first album I recorded was with an 8 piece and we spent over 5 grand on it. Don't rush it, but do make sure you know your material back to front, know your dynamics and know what you want. If you want samples, bring your samples or either pre record some or bring what you want to record. Research the studio you record at. What work have they put out before? What caliber of bands are they recording. Will they understand what you are going for? Remember your recordings are forever and will always last longer than the band. It should be the best representation of you long term. 3) along with the hardships and struggle (boy is there alot of that) do you still enjoy it? If not what can you all do to change that? If not, time to move on. All clinging on to something because it used to bring you joy and that time being precious to you won't bring those feelings back. Those times will simultaneously always be with you, but also never be relived again. Be proud of what you did and work out your next step. Clinging on to something that you baby that is dead, will only taint it amd make you bitter with each other. Moving on is important and an invaluable tool to becoming a better musician. Your mistakes are for learning from. Final part - my band UNFUNFAIR are accessible through RU-vid, spotify, bandcamp and Instagram. Go check us out and see what ridiculous shit we get up to. Good luck out there!
I tried to start a band with a guy who claimed to be a Virtuoso Guitarist and he couldnt learn the easiest songs. Then I started one with a guy who "Owned 2 houses" and yet he was homeless when his girlfriend kicked him out !!!!! haha
The reality of whats its like to be in a band is exactly what I want. I don't wanna perform on some huge stage or play halftime at the superbowl. I just wanna play inspired music at local places and have fun.
My dream is warped tour but that doesn’t exist anymore, I’m still perfectly content if I one day get to playing to a few hundred people in a park or something
Back when I got done with active duty and went home in late 1970. I decided to look for other individuals that wanted to help me put a band together. Okay, some might think I'm the leader and yes I helped start this venture. The night , we, as a group played intermission for Little Joe and Familia, when introduced at half time show, the announcer stated "Robert's band," in which I corrected him quickly to announce, "Los Indio Mexicanos," even thou we were hard rock players and that is what we played: from Black Sabbath to Credence Clear Water Revival plus other popular tunes of that era. Yes, maybe I search out members and choose the music, teaching them the songs, but it was the efforts of the Band named Los Indios Mexicans consisting of; Willie Earl McDonald - singer, Alex Che Abrigo - drummer, Jessie Sepidia - Bassist, and myself Robert Ortega - guitarist to create music as a group. As a group I refuse to take sole credit because each of the mentioned artist were (in my opinion) equally essential that we did play for 5 of the top artistic Hispanic Groups intermission in 1971's at the only Spanish dance hall in Dimmitt, Texas. Those were fun days and I will always remember how good we were, and I emphasize "We!"
temporary setlist 1. sugar we goin down 2. the heck parade 3. sins, tragedies, gay 4. piano concerto no. 2 in c minor, o.p. 18: 1 moderato by sergei rachmaninoff yeah thanks for the laugh
As someone who DID get a ukulele for Christmas, I never really touched it, and I picked up the electric guitar instead (I have also played piano for a decent minute. 13 years!). I've named my band Timeless, and it's gonna be full on glam metal. Wish me luck besties.
@GreenpeaThe_Rat made some great friends/bandmates, went to a lot of shows, those friends all turned out to be jerks, but I'm still playing! Still love that same old rock and roll!
Thanks for the drummer love man! Here's a fun tip for making sure the drummer is the star of the show, put them on a platform. We have a 3 foot platform in our garage where the drums go, and up there you're always the center.
So I see a lot of people in the comments saying that the intro crushed their dreams or something like that, but in all honesty that intro made me want to try one million times harder to get my music career going. I love ya Nate!
I remember watching this video when it came out thinking "That's so cool. I wish this could be me in a band. But there's no way." And here we are, my band releasing our first single in a couple of days :) During our whole journey this video has been in the back of my mind. As I joined a band, I remembered this video, but thought "No way. We're just playing around, badly covering grunge." As we worked on our first original song, I remembered this video, but thought "Yeah, still, this is probably just a one time thing, and it isn't even that good." As we organized our first gig, I remembered this video and thought "Hm. We've gone through a lot of phases." As we finished recording our first single a few days ago, I remembered the exact line from the video that most bands don't reach the recording stage. And I thought "There."
"Give the drummer a break" I will but why doesn't he have a break while im TRYING TO TUNE MY BASS Edit: i'd say lots of likes is a good thing but it's just people relating to my pain. I still appreciate it though.
@@fridaynightsaturdaymorning849 in my experience. Drums are "never in tune" According to the drummers i've seen. Always waste half an hour trying to get a sound from a yt video they watched.
I’ve been a professional full time musician for 14 years, I’ve played well over 1,000 shows in multiple bands and I can confirm that this is very good advice. Here is my addition: don’t go to school for music and make it your passion only to play in a bunch of cover bands for 14 years because it’s the only way to make a living in this business. Get a day job doing something more lucrative, make one band and just get the right people and the right music in that one band and go all out with it, have fun. You’ll be happier in the long run.
I’ve played sold out shows and I’d say it’s not THAT hard to get the point of success my bands have gotten to. The main thing is: “1.” BE UNIQUE. Don’t be band that just wants to sound like _____________. “2.” Are you actually willing to travel and play shows - even if no one shows up to watch you play? Willing to sleep in a van? “3.” Are you always willing to get better? Are you willing to evolve your sound? If so, and if you have a brain, you will eventually get good at what you’re good at. “4.” Don’t ever mess with hard drugs or pills. They will not only ruin your band, it will ruin your life every time. “5.” The main reason bands don’t make it is because they break up. And the main reason bands break up is: YOU CHANGE. So... don’t change? I guess? Not tryin’ to undercut anything Nate said. Most everything he said was pretty much spot on!
@Alexander Supertramp Step 3 has to do with the sound of the music and you're abilities on your instrument. Step 5 pretty much refers to being a person aside from a musician
Most Guitarist should know sweet home alabama Let me get some white out on the script Here is the edited script: "...all guitarist should know smoke on the water..." Okay my work here is done.
I’m shocked to discover that you are a popular youtuber. We went to school together at Initial Point. I always loved you playing your Ukele and it’s cool to see you have some recognition for your talents. Keep up the good work buddy!
Drummer here, tried to start a band with a guitarist (figured it would work, bands have succeeded with only two people). We were pretty good friends, talked every day, had some good laughs, all of it. Despite popular belief, I, the drummer, didn't cause many problems, save for being a bit of a grouch during some rehearsals due to staying up until 4 AM. Anyway, we were going to do a few covers for a show. He flaked less than a WEEK away. Pissed me off so badly. He was really starting to annoy me with how he would behave (he was one of those "I'm insecure but oh wait I'm not, but I AM depressed." What sucked is that he blamed me for everything. Saying that my attitude made him feel puny and whatever. His attitude described above was what I figured was why he thought that. He gave little to no explanation other than "Hey I'm not going to do this ok byee". And then when friends asked what happened to the gig after I told them not to come, and explained my side, as I said, HE acted like I was that bad guy. The dude annoyed me to no end, so I'm glad I dropped him and found a better musical partner :)
Im a drummer and i am also a hothead lol. I will take a lot of crap and not say anything for a long time and thats the problem they kniw they are able to get away with it until i explode and cant hold it in anymore
Im a lot more of a hip hop guy, but i’ve started a band with people who swear by bands like My Chemical Romance. So far its been pretty fun, not really any band-politics or anything like that too. This experience has given me many great memories. And that would have never happened if I never watched this video. Thank you Nate. 🙏
I used to rewatch this video nearly everyday a few years ago because I really wanted to start a band but I knew no instrument people, now me and my friend are starting a synth pop project. Thanks for that!
I have a lot of trouble finding a bass player. Not because I can’t find someone who’s willing to pluck a string over and over, but because I actually want an honest-to-god bassist who understands their instrument well. I have an amazing drummer and I’ve put in my hours on piano and guitar, but the bassist is the missing piece, and arguably the most important one.
Join me! I've been playing guitar (late beginner, but I've played other instruments through my life) and I'm rewatching it now for inspiration. I want to make a Jrock/Anime cover band 😁 I wanna play with other late beginners or intermediates so we can learn and grow together
15:00 Pro tip: /r/fakealbumcovers has a wealth of people experienced in PS and particularly albums covers who would be more than willing to accept pay to make a real album cover
This video is really, really well put together. Alot of putting together a band is persistence and observation. The first band I formed took alot of trial and error but once you get the idea it gets alot easier.
also can confirm stage presence is key, my band sold our most shirts in one night at the gig where i jumped into the crowd and shotgunned a lacroix after the last song
MrAVENGER901 just a few months for the basics, like knowing progression such as I, IV, V. I,V,vi,IV(every pop song ever). I was in a band set up through the place I work, and we had a really great band coach who told us a little about that stuff. I recently learned my triads, scales numbers, 7th chords, and solfeg(do ri mi, I can’t remember how it’s actually spelled) this school year in a community college intro to theory class. I started when I was 16 and I’m 18 now so it took me around 2 years, but I went slow. If you were really serious about learning it, you could probably figure it out in a few months
