Many thanks for sharing your expertise. Turns out that the copper coming in from the service isn't anchored to the wall. I wedged a piece of foam behind it and that took care of the problem.
@@dereton33 Al what's your preference on shock arrestors? The mini expansion vessels such as the one in the video. Or the mini arrestors which look like copper pipe. (With 1/2 bsp) Also there's ones which are available for 3/4 washing machine valves. Have you had any experience with these? Thanks in advance 👍
@@dereton33 Thanks Al, the plus side to these is they can be recharged. Once the mini shock arrestors are depleted that's it. The mini vessel type are a little bulky though. Great content as usual 👌
Had this problem for a while now, especially when the washing machine was going. Turned the stopcock back a turn or two and it’s so much better. Thanks Al, keep up the good work
It works, so straightforward and effective, many thanks dereton33 for guiding on eliminating loud vibrating sounds from the inlet pipe to the apartment water tank ('hot press'). I turned the brass stop cock right back as you indicated, almost off (lots of pressure where we are), and the noise is gone, sparing the need for expensive treatment. Happy neighbours, happy household.
Hi Mr Dereton. I have a well pump. I'm getting hammer when the water runs, also when I turn a tap off. Would the same procedure apply please? Thank you, very informative. 👍
@@dereton33 Thank you very much Sir. I'm working on it now. Perhaps my well is more full than usual? Anyway, you strike me like my mentors of old who all 'knew their onions'. Thank you again.
I discovered my water hammer was coming from an area around the on/off handle (in my utility sink). I have a ‘Gerber’ faucet/fixture that has a stem going down into it the handle. Taking the stem out, I discovered the small screw at the very end of the stem (that is pressed against the washer), had wiggled loose. I just tightened the screw up against the washer, reinserted the stem the same way I removed it....and.... no more water hammer!!!
Hi Al, if you can help out , have watch this vid , and have done near all , but there is still a noise from up stairs shower room , it only comes on when some one used the taps down stairs ,the last place is to remove the the floor tiles and see if the pipes and fix with clips / and remove the wall tiles too and see if pipes needs clips , any advice would be help full , and might save from re moving the floor / wall tiles Thanks :)
Obviously this was a while ago now so hopefully it’s been sorted out but could be a non return valve in the shower depending what sort of shower you have.
Hi, I have the pressure reducer fitted next to my water tank but still when we run hot water there is that vibrating sound in the pipes, even though the reducer is set on 2 Bars, so not high at all. What I noticed is that air pressure relief is tighten to the max. Do you think it can help if I undo the air pressure relief?
Brilliant tip, was having noisy waterhammer day and night, tracked it down using your advice, the problem was a new toilet i had fitted and the cold feed was through a full bore service valve, turned the valve down a quarter turn, so far so good, thanks mate!!👍
I had a water arrestor fitted after I started to experience water hammer when turning taps off and all it did was make the bang happen when the water was turned on instead! I then had a pressure reducing valve fitted and the problem went completely. It's great because you can adjust the pressure just like you adjust the temperature on a radiator thermostat. Apparently, water hammer is becoming more of a problem due to more people working from home which means the water companies have had to increase the pressure to cope with demand.
Hi I’m struggling to find out what my issue is called. Don’t think it’s water hammer. Whenever I turn bathroom taps on, the kitchen tap makes a REALLY loud vibrating sound. The sound only stops if I turn off the bathroom tap or if turn on the hot water on the kitchen tap. Any advice would be really appreciate. Thank you
1) Does your PRV work? install PRV if on city water, set pressure between 50-75psi 2) replace the angle stops in bathroom (or where problem is happening). 3) add expansion tank to water heater. 3) strap pipes where assessable. 4) open drywall is open replace plumbing.
Cannot wait to try this when I get home. I’ve been hearing insanely loud knocking in my apartment bathroom above my toilet that’s kept me up for two weeks. Thank you
I just started having really bad water hammer, three big bangs when we turned a tap off or flushed the loo. It turned out to be associated with the new 40 metre hosepipe in the garden. I've backed of the isolator valve (fitted for frost protection) that feeds the outside tap such that the flow is adequate but the hammer is stopped. Regards . . . Andy
Al, I've lived where I am for 16 years and everything had been OK, but around April this year I started having problems. There will be a sudden banging in my pipes, and often when I go into the kitchen water is 'shaking' out of the mixer tap. If I open the hot water tap, it mostly stops the banging, but can sometimes begin again within minutes. I even occasionally open the hot water tap to stop the banging, but when I close the tap, water continues to run, even though the tap is switched off!. It often seems to start somewhere between about 8am to 9.30am, and can happen quite a few times during the day. It's really strange, do you have any suggestions?.
no joy with my problems al. Had to switch the water off at the stop tap tonight, because even though the kitchen taps were switched off, water was coming out of them, and nothing would stop it short of switching the water off completely!. Don't know what will happen when I switch it on again tomorrow!
I've got banging on incoming mains in cupboard. Installed a prv on 3 bar and it's still banging. On a shared supply with neighbour,seems to be worse at night when they open the taps. Any help guys...
The hammer is coming fron next door. shared main. And BANG all through my house. I think it's their washing machine. So what co i do in MY property. I still get it with my stop cock valved closed off. The bang is coming from the other side of the valve. From external.
Just like to say thanks, had water hammer and turned down the stop cock and now it's gone. Water pressure doesn't appear that different so good result.
Hi, Im having water hammer issues, ever since my new next door neighbour moved (Semi detached house)in a couple of months ago. When he turns the taps on or uses the washing machine and we do the same it vibrates through my pipes. Can I place an arrestor on my incoming feed to the house. If so whats the best to use
I live in a flat and I can hear water gushing when my downstairs neighbours is using her taps, also bangs violently when they stop it’s driving me crazy what can be done
The water pressure is too high. See if your neighbour could turn her flow rate down by turning the main stopcock off and then back on by about half a turn or so.
try these they screw directly into the back of the washing machine take the pipe off the inlet put this in and then put the pipe in the back of the unit job done www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LG-Washing-Machine-or-Dish-Washer-Stop-Noisy-Pipes-Water-Hammer-Thumping-Pipes/151659279378?hash=item234f98f412:g:4dUAAOSwYlRZKTHn Get one from Oatey though if you have a big overhang at the back of your machine because you will need a longer shaft for clearance How to do it and at the end shows that it works we only need one though in the uk because we dont use a hot water supply ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gpbj1qnRv5U.html
@@BJT_89 did you install these to the washing machine (dont install them to the pipework you want them where the pull of the solenoid valve is) and have you got one for each inlet (if your washing machine has hot and cold) if you have and it sounds the same you can maybe send them back and ask for another set as they may be faulty. If you do that and things are still the same maybe the banging is the pull on the pipes because some pipework isnt secured to the wall across its length well enough and the inertia yanking at the pipes are making the clang back and forth. Other than that t cold be your water pressure is very high so maybe only 3/4 open the taps that are connected to the washing machine instead of fully opening them.....see if that helps.
@@Mickeyj26 I installed them on the wall side, not at the washer. I found conflicting information, but the more I research, sounds like washer side is the way to go. I’ll switch them around and hope that fixes it.
My moms house in town didn't syart doing this intil someone remodeled a house next door now it does this everytime the toilet is flushed or the washer is turned on they redid the pipes over there and apparently messed the pressure up
I’ve got water hammer in my cold pipes at the moment, on and off for the last two months. Seems to be in different points around the house but predominantly under the kitchen sink where the mains inlet pipe is. I have a shock arrestor upstairs under the combi boiler, I recently bled some air off it via the little valve (looks like a bike tyre valve) - was this a mistake?
Thank you for fixing my problem. It cost me $400 already, and the plumber could not figure it out, and he installed an arrestor. The noise stopped after I turned cock on slowly.
You forgot to mention the water hammer ghost as one of the causes and the spell you have to say to expell them, ha ha! Great video, as always. I have learnt a lot, thank you!
function is more important than looks, how about the washing / dish washers, they can cause water hammer, because the solenoid water valves, turn the water supply, off in a flash. Sioux Chief DW660-H Water Hammer Arrestor ¾" BSP Connection, are good for - washing / dish washers for the UK
I got water hammer hammer arrester at washing machine pipes. Why do I see water hammer at say bathroom. Also when I use toilet at full valve opening i hear sound in same area. Can a faulty prv cause water hammer.
Cheers for that, I have a weird problem, the house is at the end of a run to 4 houses and even with the main stop off I'm getting hammer in short stub caused by other houses in the row, which device would be best where the water enters the house? Cheers Jason
I had this noisy issue when opening up my taps full .. but i also had an issue when I was running the hot tap upstairs for a bath it was letting by in the down stairs sink tap. Changing the ceramic seems to solve both issues which I was well pleased with. Is that something you have heard of? A valve letting by causing water hammer
hi, why would a bathroom mixer tap make noise like as if it's vibration or spinning, only happens when the Mixer tap is OFF? mixer tap is connected to hot water cylinder (unvented system) PRV is set at 3 bar for both cold and hot? thanks
Your videos are a godsend ❤. Can you please help with a problem that I have since I had a ballcock & lever replaced in my loft cold water tank recently? The ballcock bounces when it refills, and I can see no way of adjusting anything to stop it… it makes a heck of a racket now.
I'm having a nightmare over the last few years with I think water hammer. When a toilet is flushed upstairs or a tap is turned off upstairs we hear a clunk right by the side of the bath. On top of that we get only what I can describe as a low vibration for a few seconds. No particular time of day and with no water running. Any ideas please?
If you have an F and E system then it is the roof tank valve needs changing. If you have a Combi system then try turning your water flow rate down via the main stopcock. If still no luck then fit a shock arrestor on the WC feed.
@@dereton33 Thanks for your reply. Turning the stopcock down doesn't make any difference unfortunately. The stop stop is on a lead pipe and plumbers tend to shiver when they see lead pipes. Thought of a PRV just after the stoptap might work.
I've got an odd situation. Yesterday Thames water were outside and turned off the mains supply. When everything came back on water hammer started when I turn the taps off even very slowly (previously it would only happen if I turned them off quickly). I've drained the taps to try and get rid of any air but it's still happening. It's so annoying as it now happens any time a tap is used. Any ideas?
@@dereton33 thanks mate this has stopped the water hammer but the flow rate on the bath / shower is so slow now. I'm in a maisonette top floor and I share the same mains water line as my downstairs neighbours. Whenever they use taps / the washing machine the hammer is insane! If I flush my toilet or have a tap open it stops the hammer whenever they are using the water. I think I'll have to ask them to turn down their pressure perhaps
Hi, the stop valve in the house leaks if turned on or off so I have tried to reduce the water pressure coming into the house from the stop valve on the water meter, will this have the same effect?
Interesting video Al. Another cause can be the outside tap when it is turned on and plugged into a hose connected to a garden sprayer connector or timer. It seems to create a hammer noise. I was a bit confused until I realised the tap was on, and turning it off cleared the problem.
Hi recently i changed a valve cartrage to stop the dripping in the cold tap and it work a treat.. Now tho there a thudding noise every time i use the cold water tap. Im not sure whats doing it tho.
I get it when I use washer bath toilet and all taps it made my boiler fire up didn't realise untill I got a £175 gas bill for 1 month.. I was advised I need a shock arrester at stop tap The bang is under the toilet
I've tried reducing the pressure, I've also drained the pipes and refilled them from the top down, I've identified the pipe that's banging and secured it down and I still have the banging noise..... Its coming from the mains stopcock, hidden away at the back of a cupboard and the pipes going upstairs have been boxed in and plastered over 🤦♂️ What would you suggest?
@@dereton33 hi, I've tried turning down the flow but still getting a banging noise, it happens more when the washing machine is in use so I'm thinking of installing an arrestor....do you think that'd work?
High water pressure. Try turning the flow rate down by turning the stopcock down to a slower flow rate. Other than that you will need a pressure reducing valve and gauge. Fitted just after the main stopcock.
Hi. Any possibility of a little advice/help please. Recently, over the last few months, when a tap/shower is turned on other taps make a squeal or start to dribble/drip. Any ideas pretty please?
Hi. So I tried the water pressure, and yes, if i turn it down a lot it does stop, but then the flow is poor (especially in the shower). Why wouldn't it suddenly start if the pressure has not changed? Also, when we flush the loo, the waste down pipe rumbles at the end of the flush. Not sure if these two are related 🤔
Hi I’ve had noisy taps got a plumber out and he said my downstairs tap needs changing I adjust the valves and it’s not making a sound any more. Could I have some advice on what to do please thank you
Would love to get some advice. 3 story townhome, water hammer comes up once using the washer or the toilet downstairs at the lowest level. Nothing else causes it. After flushing the toilet or when the washer machine is filling up. Tried leaving all faucets and flushing toilet upstairs to get rid of the air in the pipes. To no avail. What would you recommend after trying the turn down the main?
Your videos are excellent, I have a bad water hammer after plumber did work in my house. He also did work in my friends house and he now has water hammer too. What is the plumber doing?? I have complained about him now I have also like and subscribed your videos thank you 👍🏻
Did the plumber fit new taps? Lever taps make a hammer because we can turn them of instantly. We take longer to turn traditional taps off and the water has time to stop gently.
Hi Im having issues with water Hammer from every tap, washing machine ect, ive tried draining the system and fill back up again, thos seems to work but only for half a day or so. The banging noise is coming from the kitchen un the kitchen units, tried opening up the units but cant see any pipes moving, was thinking of putting a few Hammer Arrestor around the house and near the banging noise but not sure if it would solve the problem. Many thanks William
@@dereton33 Hi Thanks for the reply, ive tried this already, ive done everything in your videos. What i have donr today was turn the mains off, open the kitchen tap and the upstairs toilet tap let the water come out then close both taps and open the mains, up until now no banging at all, so all ive done in put air in the pipes by doing it this way hence i think il need the arrestors. Im not using the washing machine and dishwasher just to see if this is the problem. Thanks for getting back to me.
@@davidhughes7251 yes they worked for a few months.. The banging noise comes back but no where near as louder as before.. Over time the arrestors need emptying as they fill up with water.
Thank you so much for this video! Bought our first house (not a new build!) And within a few months we started getting this horrendous noise that would go off pretty much every morning at about 4am. Tried this and we are a good 4 weeks without the foghorn noise (fingers crossed).
Hi Al, i've got water hammer when a neighbour closes a tap/washing machine valve closes etc. Its a shared supply. Someone said replacing my kitchen pipework from copper to plastic might lessen the thud/sound transmission. What say you?
i had that, being mid terrace i used to hear it everytime someone used water from both directions any time of day or night, loudest bang i have heard from water hammer, since one side next door has been re furbished it has luckily stopped.
@@Mickeyj26 Hi Michael! Hopefully you see my question... but for water hammer on a washing machine, I take it you need one of these shock arresters for both the hot and cold inlet pipe? Or will just one one the cold pipe suffice? If you answer you will be my hero!! 👍 🦸🏻♂️
@@lukasrayzor yes it is best to get one for each, put them on the washing machine side not the other side it is the mistake a lot of people make. The water hammering is being caused by the washing machine abruptly pulling water in and then abruptly cutting the water supply so the shock is happening on the washing machine side not the waer outlet side. Anything that has a water intake valve on it that abruptly stops and starts you can put it on.....like a dishwasher too if you have bad problems too but in general it is washing machines that are the worst culprits for this.
Although some of this may sort of work, there's a few problems here. First you should not rely on throttling isolation valves to reduce pressure - this will cause cavitation and cause the valve to fail prematurely. If throttling solves the problem, then what you need is a flow restrictor or PRV as you mention at the end. Second at 01:39, unclipped pipes do not 'cause' water hammer, they will just make you aware of it. Water hammer is CAUSED by the momentum of water being suddenly stopped, and the resulting pressure wave - rattling pipes are a secondary effect of the pressure wave. Clipping the pipes in place won't change the fact it's happening (and damaging your pipes / fittings)
Plz help.. i live in a flat 2 flats below. I had a leaking stopcock, plumber fixed that, but after i was left with bang pipes every time my neighbour below used his taps or i use mine and washing machine. Please could you help what i can do. No one with visit due to the covid-19. Much appreciated.. 🙂
My rural cottage just changed from pumped well water to a mains connection, and the changes included a real plumber installing a float valve in the upstairs tank. I have no complaint about his work, but within a few days I started having severe water hammer to the point where I feared the pipework would spring a leak. The solution (found online) turned out to be ridiculously easy: tie an upright empty 300ml yogurt tub onto the float arm, with the top of the tub just below the surface of the water. This damped out the "chatter" as the float valve is close to shutting off, and it completely cured the problem. I was expected it not to work at all, but it was cheap (literally nothing) to try so what the hey. I absolutely did not expect a complete cure! I had previously tried closing the valve a tadge, but that didn't seem to help.
With hydraulic pressure how can you reduce it? If you have say mains pressure of 2 bars in, you’ll have 2 bars in the whole system unless you open a tap. Please explain how a water pressure reducer works or does it just reduce the flow. Thanks.
dereton33. Hi, I am aware of what a water hammer arrestor does. What does a pressure reducing valve do other than reduce flow. How does it actually reduce “pressure” ?