The problem is, when I tell people how serious the situation is they think I'm crazy. Nobody believes we're this close to the point of no return. I feel like those people on the street telling everyone about the bible and how we're all going to hell...
No...mankind has forgotten the Creator...GOD.! Think about,...there is the Bible...his commentments...to follow is easy...!!! Think about...soon. G O D means G O O D...guys.
Well, Mulan, if YOU actually read the IPCC reports for YOURSELF, you will realise the situation is nowhere near as bad as this guy makes out! Try to think for yourself!
@@uterauch3433 Oh PLEASE! You crazy God-botherers have absolutely ZERO idea about anything. Go back to worshipping trees, or rocks, or slime or whatever crap you believe in. Leave scientific matters to people who understand them!
Rather than looking to technology to extend the life of modern industrial civilization we ought to be looking at its ability to buy time and to slow us down in the transition. We need to look towards our feet. Literally look down at the land under our feet. It is our life’s blood. We need to build resiliency in our homes and community. We should be thinking about adaptation, conservation, land stewardship, and feeding ourselves. We need to decouple our survival from global supply chains wherever and whenever possible.
@@megaphonistanofficial1773 The transition is coming whether we like it or not. Just because the situation continues to get worse doesn’t mean we should give up or stop trying to slow the pace. Mitigation and adaptation are the only means of survival for the human race. I’m not so interested in preserving what we typically think of as civilization. We existed on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years without it. I’m more interested in making the transition or collapse as humane as possible. The slower the better. Unless you are in the Derrick Jensen camp of just tearing it all down ASAP. He may be right that it would be better for the planet but it would be hell on earth for the almost 8 billion humans if that happens.
There’s a mental trick a person plays inwardly when s/he invokes the imperial “we” - a coarse version of which is, “Teamwork is a bunch of people doing what I say.”
"You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete." ~ Buckminster Fuller
And what exactly did he change? We all know what needs to be done but no one wants to actually do it because we are all comfortable. When people realize what’s coming they will be in it and uncomfortable and even then most will still deny it instead of doing something. That’s how humans act just like animals. We aren’t as evolved as we believe we are.
I get the sense we’re approaching a social tipping point. I’m thinking about starting my own protest group for people over 40. If people truly understood how high the stakes are, they would all be in Extinction Rebellion. So few are really getting it but the number is growing towards a tipping point.
i strongly recommend that you start a group that asks people to leave XR so that you can apply yourselves to more appropriately and effectively to waking people up to the issues - instead of alienating them.. a group that attracts an increasing number of people - rather than one that repels everyone apart from mindless sheep..
@@neohubris unfortunately after attending only one meeting and seeing these people in the street with their silly flags and glassy stares - it has become apparent to me that they fulfil the criteria of that very thing..
Oh Sharon, ask to see impiral evidence that what's happening leads inexorably to disaster,there is none ,only computer guesstimates, which up to this point have been woefully inacurate,plus the remedies being put forward are childly simplistic bordering on rubbish
@@atticustay1 Tell that to the jerks in pick-ups with Trump flags flying yelling "ni__er" at my kids. That didn't happen in this town since it stopped publicly being a KKK outpost and became a "high class" ski resort. At least they learned to shut up for a couple decades.
Gradual changes and then BANG! A massive event that causes the sudden near complete awakening/mobilization of... and then we realize why the push to privatize water.
When prince Charles glues himself to the car of the police-chief or when Buckingham palace is flooded and destroyed due to torrential rain, or when British Airways goes bust because people refuse to fly to Spain, Greece, India or Portugal, only then something will change. I respect you and admire you, Roger, but personally I think we're too far down the wrong road. Massive, vulgar consumarism is going to kill us all.
Structural change may appear to change in 6 months, but it requires a long period of build up. As an analogy remember the penetration of mobile phones in the UK. In 1993 almost no one had one, by 1955 almost everyone had one. However, the first mobile phone was sold in 1984. That 6 month transformation had a 10 year build up.
I was really hoping for solutions, instead we were given a talk on how to be disruptive. Sure I get the idea of critical mass that can force the governments hand... but what would their play be? What action can they take to 'stop the climate crisis'? What actions do we want them to take? Maybe that's beyond the scope of this video but I would've loved to hear what we'd actually be aiming for with our disruption.
3-6 months AFTER 2-5 years of knowing what is wrong in the society. First talks, knowledge of an issue and then realizing what has to happen takes few years before most brains have processed the issue to the point that change is even possible. So first you need knowledge. We have that on climate issues. Then we need this rapid change in our behavior.
He needs a team to dissect and frame key points from these videos. Maybe something like the after skool videos ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CL_4VRMZqF0.html
I disagree, that's simply untrue. If you can't handle the truth a smaller portion won't help. If you can't focus or don't care much maybe it might in that case maybe guy McPherson videos are better for them
Also, Mr. Roger Hallam encourages you to take his videos and make your own. So if you feel they are not succinct enough, try and compress the message yourself and share with us please!
Right, because people are time poor Unfortunately. But yes XR members and volunteers can take the gems of these vids and talks and take these excerpts, even have somone use the key points and "best of" moments and re-voice them (have someone else read those parts in smaller portions) I believe this will be very effective. I'm truly hoping we see some doco type vids of the best parts of the protests for us in perhaps one hour intervals so as to keep people inspired. Remember if we do not get the desired result straight away, keep faith because once it's out there, it's always there for us in the future and future generations to see the effort the love and the energy we placed in making positive change and perhaps Appreciate out struggle. Stay Strong Everyone, And Remember As Che Guevara Said, "If I Do Not Win, It Does Not Mean That Couldn't Have. And More Than This We Are The Ones On The Right Side Of History! 🌐🕯️⏳❤️ 🌎
Regarding the low quantity of people who watched the previous video to the end: How about breaking the info down into shorter 5 min videos? The algorithm definitely seems to favor that and people generally prefer to watch, them I think
@@squod1 It doesn't take a genious to work out what Andy was asking for and still you failed so maybe try to be more humble next time. Your answer is not only useless and arrogant, it is also wrong. What you're talking about is the holodomor, not the kind of events Roger is talking about, nor what Andy asked for. And to make it even more wrong, the holodomor was not what led to the protests that led to the dissolution of the USSR either so you're just wrong on every level.
Just earlier today I started a dialogue with someone important to me in my business about how people make decisions based on emotion, and emotional communication, along with stories, are what change people's minds. She agreed. I listened to Roger until the end, while bottling my mead.
Emotions are not the best basis for making decisions, logic is. If you apply logic to any of Hallam's ramblings, you will realize what utter nonsense they are.
@@enerjohnsavior3227 Many things, but in this context I believe that the truth is important. "Winning people over with emotional arguments" is not a way of finding the truth, it is a way of indoctrinating people into believing something that may not actually be true.
My only fear is, once the Government is overthrown, the people´s Assembly that will ensue, who can guarantee that it would be one that is going to promote the Planet salvation, or one that would simply bring more tirany? Like what happened after the French Revolution. Or I am seeing the things wrong?
I don't think that the plan is to replace the government with a citizens assembly although the way XR talk about it , I'm not surprised that's what people believe . As a system of governance , it would be absurd . The assembly is more of a tool that informs the government , it's not really that revolutionary . XR doesn't even talk about how to improve the system as far as I know .
This video doesn’t explain how to stop the climate crisis but how to build public will. There is no discussion of the scientific and tech knowledge necessary to change what’s going on. Still interesting.
Thanks Roger appreciate your persistent message and fresh angles. To hear that there are likely lots of angry and despairing people awaiting the touchpaper to get galvanised into action, gave me some cause for optimism.
Ok, I've listened to the very end of your talk, and am a great fan of XR, but honestly don't think for moment that what you propose will have a significant effect on much of anything. It's simply too late. Whatever action is needed will not be directly influenced by your kind of popular uprising. Those in power KNOW what the public feels about the threat of Global Warming. Start by getting the 1% of super rich to change their ways (responsible for c.30% of carbon consumption!) and then target the two dozen companies or so responsible for the majority of CO2 emissions. Target those two in aggressive fashion and just maybe you might start something interesting.
Nothing will happen until the rich and powerful have moved their shares, and they can make a profit from the crisis, bought houses in Tasmania, built super liners and space stations on Mars Barb
excatctly, only the slaves must pay extra for CO2, and elektricity..... its all extra tax, and humans MADE NO difference in climate change............ 1 vulcano put more CO2 out then all cars togehter......... if yellow stone break out, its the next ice-age. nobody get it..........
There are 2 billion more people alive today than just twenty years ago , so all we need to do is slow and reverse this existential and it’s job done , no need to thank me
@@connerhughes1435 Still not hearing any solutions. The 'radical green agenda' is now mostly about the Critical Theory of Social Justice, not the environment. When the so-called 'greens' actively campaign against nuclear energy and genetic modification of crop plants, it is obvious that they are not actually interested in solving the problem. In the 1960's, a member of the radical group Students for a Democratic Society wrote 'The issue is never the issue. the issue is always the revolution'. If you watch the livestreams of the recent XR event in London, which are on their RU-vid channel, you will see that sentiment alive and well today.
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
I agree with you 100%, but as a evolutionary biologist i fear we are not unfortunately genetically predisposed to think about the ecosystem or to protect environment . Its all about reproduction and food. That is it.
If that were the case, then why do we have human rights or laws? If it were all about reproduction and food, then why do people choose to not have children, or volunteer to help others? Your theory is far too simplistic.
And you use that good info, please, to tell that evolutionary bit AND tell us all it will be necessary, a thousand times. Because then people believe. Thank you!
Let's see... 1) it's too late to rectify the situation. 2) we have 4-6 years to rectify the situation. (?) 3) therefore we must all rebel and go to prison to rectify the situation. I am not at all opposed to people rebelling in an attempt to rectify the situation to whatever extent possible and to hold the perpetrators responsible, but just saying.
Time is up. Change needed to take place decades ago. Accept the hot world and plan how to survive in it while you still have a functional civilization.
@@thepepperlanders not quite, there is actually a difference between a bad and a horrendous situation. The climate catastrophe is non-linear. And day counts and makes a difference. We will decarbonize either by having some control or by having lost all control. Our choice to step up or to give up before having even tried...
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
@@thepepperlanders A few decades ago they were trying to con us that we were going to have an ice age, now the con is about warming. We HAD a functioning civilization which is going through a controlled demolition (with covid and climate falsehoods). When it has been sufficiently dismantled a new world order will emerge, which was planned all along. Carbon credit slavery, global technocracy, and total control over our lives will be our future if we go along with all this BS.
You actually give money to this death cult leader. His ill thought out solutions and exaggerated alarmist nonsense are a dangerous combination. The guy is a tool of the globalist agenda.
According to the Cambridge report going Vegan or Vegetarian would reduce by 50% individual CO2 footprint overnight. Taking personal responsibility in this way is more important than protesting and focussing on the behaviours of others, like they say the personal is the political.
We are the choir and we would like to hear more significant material instead of a rambling monologue at us. We need to hear very specific plans, and we don't care that so many people don't care. OK, I am not going to listen to this anymore because he has no dynamic things to do. OK I'll listen to the end. This smacks of the hopium drug that some want to ignore at this point. If we do what needs to be done, then tell us what first, and skip the blather: we already know the stats, we already have heard the history, we already know the story...get TO THE F'N POINT.
Right. The civil rights and women's right to vote movements had concrete goals. Where's the specificity here? We can't just demand "less carbon emissions" even though that is what we want. We use carbon for our survival in extremely complex ways. We need concrete alternatives to demand - not vague ideals. This talk lays out a great methodology for demanding change, but it sorely lacks any specific goals in terms of HOW we can get off fossil fuel dependency. Probably the MOST effective thing would be for everyone to refuse to consume the products of animal agriculture. But the situation is not one in which governments have alternatives that can be changed as easily as racist or misogynist ideologies. Our climate crisis is very difficult to resolve even if the governments are willing to try. We need to demand specific solutions.
Mate, haven't you realized by now, that all these people can do is ramble. AGW is not a real problem, therefore there is no real solution, so competing egos just ramble on that they have the best solution. Meanwhile the globalists that invented and propagated the AGW falsehood implement their solutions to gain more control over our lives and deepen our enslavement.
What prison reading would you recommend? Last time I went to prison I took a 1000+ page university physics text book. Made quick work of it. Anything more relevant come to mind?
Mandela used Marianne Williamson's work on Idea that "It isn't your darkness you are most afraid of. It's your light! And that playing small doesn't serve the world." So step into the brilliance of who you are and do your work. Paraphrasing. Mandela used these words, because he knew for him too, this is human truth! Thank you, dear Roger. Christ was reviled too, I hear.
If I can't even convince reasonable friends to use, do, and consume less; how on Earth can I mobilize powerful, self-interested, unreasonable people to impose fossil fuel moderation on billions of people in a consensual way? It's hard not to despair knowing it is clearly a decade of two too late. The terrible truth is that crucial tipping points have been crossed, and natural feedback loops have kicked in and are clearly in control.
it makes even more sense, which does somewhat help us to make any sense of what has happened, to read Moises Naim's The End of Power. as you are reading it, it's easy to plug the GHE into it and understand just with air travel alone.... or container shipping alone... as your political counterforce when none of us, maybe not even H.W. Bush in January 1989.. or maybe not maybe on that one... have not enough power. it's something even Roger Hallam seems to have completely missed. Moises Naim's thesis, a 2013 read.
@@happyjonn9242 Yes no doubt there will be catastrophic collapse. But does every nation have to collapse into anarchy ruled by gangsters? Can't some more enlightened nation, city or group of like minded people hang on and save what is best of human knowledge and culture even if rest of the world collapses and burns? I am dumbfounded that there hasn't been any effort to setup a segregated society or nation which can stand on it's own and survive independent of rest of the world. Putting all eggs in one basket is exactly where humanity has arrived at this point and humpty dumpty is about to go over the wall.
He is recommending that his listeners do things that will get them imprisoned, beaten up and maybe killed. How long can he keep saying this before he puts his money where his mouth is?
Great video, but really it was the last 5 minutes that made me really listen hard... I've been worrying about societal collapse since about 2007, and it terrifies me how quickly it's coming, and people still deny that there's even a problem. I've always been involved in more the positive solutions, but this really has me thinking about civil disobediance. THanks.
The Russians are successfully storing CO2 in the sea. They just stored a huge bunch of it in the Black Sea, inside a ship where it won't warm. So progress on this is ongoing like a bat out of hell.
@@grindupBaker Annual global CO2 emissions are now 35 billion tonnes, rising 2% per year. The average modern freighter carries approx. 25,000 tonnes. So you would need 1,400,000 freighters every year to store that year's 35 billion tonnes of CO2. But there are only 15,000 commercial freighters currently in service worldwide. So in the first year, you'd be 1,385,000 freighters short, and every year after that, you'd be 1,400,000 freighters short (plus 2% per year to cover the annual rise in CO2, which would be an additional 28,000 freighters the first year, 28,000+ the second year, etc.). So, you'd have to build 1,428,000 new freighters the second year - 96 times the size of the entire current global fleet - and you'd have to do that every year thereafter, steadily rising an additional 28,000+ per year... And how much additional CO2 would be emitted by the steel mills and additional industrial processes necessary to produce a global fleet 100 times the size of the current global fleet, every single year, ad infinitum? "Progress" is going to have to go a lot faster than a bat out of hell to manage all that.
I am looking at the truckers' disruption in Ottawa as it spreads and thinking that they are using these tactics! Are they going to win?! It seems they are being used by people like Bannon who want a total breakdown of the existing social order; but to what point?! Are we looking at a Mad Max future?!
nearly two hours of rambling to say what needs to be done. Yes he's very sincere and very dedicated but this video is almost like some bizarre Monty Python pastiche ; making the 'greatest threat to humanity' seem like a conference about 'planning waste water treatment for the modern age', yet not as interesting. Say it in 5 minutes Roger tell people that's what you are going to do ASAP and ask people to take courage and have a go themselves.
thing is scientists already know and have recommended it.. all it takes is for people to wake up and insist that their governments implement it.. unfortunately tho' XR only functions to cloud the issue and piss everyone off..
I completely agree, A brilliant fellow, who we all have much to be grateful to for, but his mumbling and rambling makes this impossible to watch. I WANT to hear him and understand his pitch but can they ask someone like Gail Bradbrook to re-make this film, please?
This man is an excellent communicator. He is highly experienced in knowing how to do exactly what he does. I believe him and I believe in him. He is good
Yes I agree these need to be much reduced. The first point- we are being lied to- doesn’t appear till 8 minutes in. Not wanting to detract from this video or other very informative and inspirational material but what XR need - what we all need- is another Martin Luther King, a Nelson Mandela of a Mahatma Ghandi and they take longer to “grow” than 6 months. Theory is all very well but what is needed is charismatic leadership
Such a vitally important message yet only 70,000 subscribers... The human condition, as history has told us time and time again, means that no action will be taken until it's either already irreparably broken or its already too late to change anything without mass causalities - none more so than now. People in general are not impacted enough to be concerned. Too many people shouting out the tale of "Peter and the Wolf". This is not how I feel, BTW. However, while people feel "I'm Alright Jack", little in the way of active change will happen. Believing otherwise fails to understand the selfishness of people in general. Appealing to what little conscience people have when the going is still OK for them in general, will be a very tough challenge indeed - maybe even futile. Anyway, I hope you succeed in waking people up to themselves.
I don't think that it's necessarily selfishness that prevents ordinary people from acting. I think that the system is just not set up for individuals to make a difference, it's a self supporting, self reinforcing trap. Quite deliberately engineered over hundreds of years by the people who profit the most from our collective apathy! Hundreds of years of social conditioning have made us pathetically passive and careless!!
Partially interesting. Could do with a) describing what the enraged should be wanting Scientifically and in terms of Engineering and in terms of Economic change i.e. end of Capitalism [as we know it] or otherwise and b) describing the actions of the enraged within a language of Sociology alone [it is a valid area - but it is not the only 1] -> i.e. some sense of plan.
The challenge as I see it is how to redesign the economy works so that the market is free only at the point of sale, not at the point of production (so no free stock of fish, forests or minerals) or at the point of consumption (so no free disposal of carbon, plastic or any other pollution). Since the Bank of England’s creation 300 years ago ‘the market’ has been busy consuming natural capital under the assumption that it was inexhaustible. Logically ridiculous but practicable as any future problem would be solved by the inflicted generations many years down the line. As population and consumption levels have grown the practicality of that assumption has shrivelled rapidly; the inflicted generations are now walking on the Earth. Time is, indeed, short. But unless we start to talk about how we make money (rather than how we distribute it), we won't make any progress toward avoiding breakdown.
Roger is an excellent communicator and is able to anticipate reactions with humour and humility. Of course this is aimed at the few who might become emotionally engaged enough to do something now. There are differences with the Freedom Riders - the federal legislation was already in place - but global warming mitigation may be beyond what current political activism can achieve. So thanks Roger for the challenge.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I am sorry, but your two options are not cutting it. They are both practically impossible. 99% of all mined Titanium is in the form of white paint. We are never going to recycle this back. Are we going to sandpaper all walls? Unlikely. The second option you mentioned is just nuts. You cannot contain nature in an "earth ship". Just the cycles of elements on the planet can not be contained. I dont see any of those options as viable. But I am pretty sure I can predict to you what WILL happen. Its always been plan A for many governments of the world. Doing business as usual until the very last moment when basically everybody realizes whats going on and starts demanding change. At that point some government will pop up and quickly offer a solution in the form of geoengineering. The others will either follow along or go to war over it. And it will work. Climate change will be averted. At least temporarily. Humanity will see this as an excuse to do the same shit it was always doing. The entropy of the system will continue to rise until one fatal mistake brings everything to a quick standstill. Maxwell´s demon will be born and we will all go to hell :) Thats how I see it playing out.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο It seams you are misunderstanding me. I know what an earth ship is. And it is an attempt to contain nature. If you dont see this, you are a fool. ;)
28:25 - 2019 April XR event 32:17 - political will 34:21 - consciousness raising insufficient 35:50 - disruption conflicts with entrenched power 37:30- you dont highlight something if you want to change it. 44:23 sign up to engage in civil disobedience to the point of arrest or prison 46:40 - the greater the repression. The bigger the release. 1:43:03 - Make a demand that is winnable 1:46:40 - Ballpark number of arrests 1:47:40 - 5 people to jackpot 1:49:10 - Be prepared for sacrifice.
Back in reality. Get prepared for planetary hospice. To date there is no action available to stop rapid warming. If there is, we had better get started. Like decades ago.
Just a few weeks back XR claimed to be distancing themselfs from Roger hallum and claimed he no longer spoke for them. Now he is featuring on the RU-vid channel? What's the story now?
Some silly questions... what about the ice sheet that covered Europe and melted 20.000 years ago or the fact that the Sahara used to be a savanah? Was that change also our fault? How can a process be natural for millions of years and suddenly become man-made?
@@elephantintheroom5678 you are missing the point where it's literally the same process. Again, the ice caps used to reach southern France. And before that, we didn't even had ice caps. And repeat this process a few times to get where we are now. Nature hasn't suddenly stopped working.
The Sahara was lush at one time, and filled with big cities that over-farmed, lived out of balance, and created the desert - just as we are doing now. There are some amazing videos to watch, if you go look. Lost cities were not in the middle of desert when they were built.
The natural process occurred extremely slowly, giving nature time to adapt, the man made process has been extremely abrupt giving no time for nature, or us, to respond and adapt.
Speaking of Mobilisation, lets get real. The following quote is the reality of Mobilisation. There are more delegates at COP26 associated with the fossil fuel industry than from any single country, analysis shared with the BBC shows. Campaigners led by Global Witness assessed the participant list published by the UN at the start of this meeting. They found that 503 people with links to fossil fuel interests had been accredited for the climate summit. These delegates are said to lobby for oil and gas industries, and campaigners say they should be banned. "The fossil fuel industry has spent decades denying and delaying real action on the climate crisis, which is why this is such a huge problem," says Murray Worthy from Global Witness. "Their influence is one of the biggest reasons why 25 years of UN climate talks have not led to real cuts in global emissions."
Civil disobedience works by making those in power uncomfortable enough to move, but if their move is to call in loyal troops (see Tiananmen Square) then you are not going to get very far. Civil disobedience is only practiced by people who have no power. It is not a power struggle. It only works when the society leans in your direction in the first place, and all you want is to tip it over. In the US, the majority of Americans at the time supported civil rights so they only needed to shame the politicians to act. I really want you to succeed, but I am not convinced you understand how civil disobedience works.
@@craigscott2315 No, it wasn't debunked. It's real and it's here. But, don't worry, nature will sort us out through the Fermi Great Filter until none of us are left.
@@kimwelch4652 yes it was debunked in 1886! No, global warming it isn't real, we are three percent into a cooling phase! And global warming was debunked again in 1938 by one of the most accredited mathematicians! "Fermi paradox" (based off of the Kardashev scale) Great Filter?? what has extra-terrestrial civilisations got to do with co2 agw? Just learn about the claim related to co2 agw forty years ago, which has absolutely nothing to do with the current insanity!
Agree with you. He is a Johnny One-Note, with his only "solution" to fill the prisons. Well here in the USA, filling for-profit prisons does NOT "disrupt" the status quo at ALL. Instead it pours more money into their pockets. I think coordinated action across the country -- everyone doing the same thing at the same time -- would be much more effective.
@@craigscott2315 Simply lying doesn't work. There is not debunking of global warming when the warming is clearly visible to everybody. This isn't 1984.
I find it fascinating how he can completely ignore human need. How are we to meet our immediate needs without oil today ?? Makes no sense. Climate change is just ONE issue, among a myriad of other issues facing our species and they are all caused by the same thing, an inefficient/insufficient economic system, the Monetary/Profit System. We need a new one, and until we are raising awareness of that we are wasting our time #ResourceBasedEconomy
With friends I say "you know we might just have to start taking a few less flights stop eating meat". "oh I could never give up my meat" etc. I guess you have to almost make things as antisocial as smoking to change behaviour.
Resistance is only necessary in the present system because the system itself is flawed. What is really required IMO is a change in the electoral/political system that we all take for granted and call representative democracy which isn't representative or democratic. It will be relatively easy to make representative democracy a fact. After that, we will have a robust system that everyone can get behind and no one will need to sit in front of cars and trucks. The system will work and will transform, not just the UK but the whole world. The political landscape will look entirely different. The changes required are relatively minor but will have to be campaigned for vigorously. Roger would make an excellent advocate if he chose to do so. Everyone that reads this message could become an advocate for the sort of change that is required. I will spell out the necessary changes when anyone shows an interest.
@@bagpiper117 I hope you understand and like my idea. Instead of one person one vote, we all get multiple votes equal to the number of candidates and all the candidates get elected. The number of votes given to each candidate determines the effective power of that candidate as an elected official. This means you have transferred your votes to him or her so that they vote the way you would on certain issues and you can hold them accountable. In the UK we have 650 representatives. If we went with this new system and it was agreed we have ten representatives per constituency then we end up with 6,500 representatives doing our government decision-making for us rather than the party with the most representatives having all the power. There are a lot more details than that but those are the basics.
Let's be OPTIMISTIC and discard the problems haha. Problems are GREAT because if you know what they are, THEN you can work on the SOLUTIONS! :) A normal video on YT at last, without the boasting, is refreshing.
I'm on my knees to the Lord almighty, Jesus and the Holy Ghost, Buddha, Muhammad and all the little river gods, because our souls are the only things we can hope to save now.
One thing I am sceptical of is HOW exactly will getting arrested lead to legislation that will help the climate crisis? The policing bill makes it clear that the govt has no issue with arresting more people
Watch as I wave my magic wand, change the winds, end the droughts, cool the oceans, make temperatures and weather milder globally and crush atmospheric carbon dioxide levels, without any change in global carbon dioxide emissions. It's already happening. Differential solar heating of surfaces drives atmospheric circulation, which drives the weather. Warmer air holds more moisture than cooler air. If increasing atmospheric greenhouse gases increase temperatures, we should see more regular precipitation, but instead we're told that the greenhouse effect somehow leads to drought, irregular precipitation and severe weather. Discussions about atmospheric carbon dioxide usually omit that carbon dioxide is readily soluble in water. Discussions about the carbon cycle mainly focus on the photosynthesis pathway but ignore the precipitation pathway. A good rainstorm will scrub and sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide than any machine could at a billion times the cost of nothing. Yes, I know that a billion times zero is zero, but it was rhetorical. If warmer temperatures lead to more atmospheric moisture and atmospheric circulation drives the rain, more regular rain should sequester more atmospheric carbon dioxide, and atmospheric levels shouldn't rise enough to increase temperatures. Maybe something else is breaking the cycle. When I was in grade school back in the seventies, the teacher who taught Earth Science was very thorough about how the water cycle works and how weather is driven. She explained that drought is the result of obstruction to air circulation. Something blocks the air from moving, and when air doesn't move, heat doesn't move. If warm air rises because it is less dense than cooler air, what prevents warm air from rising? Convection requires atmospheric instability, which entails an environmental lapse rate that is greater than the adiabatic lapse rate. When the lapse rate is less than the adiabatic lapse rate, warm air will only rise so far until something increases the lapse rate. When the lapse rate is inverted (a temperature inversion), convection is blocked, surfaces heat up and everything dries up. Conditions resulting from drought (erosion, thinned vegetation) open up more room for air to flow and eventually eliminate the drought. Ten years ago, I discovered a man-made temperature inversion in the Millet Swale watershed, at 6000 feet elevation, southeast of Snowflake, Arizona. The temperature inversion put excess pressure on the watershed, which put excess pressure on connected watersheds. Millet Swale connects to the Silver Creek watershed, which connects to Little Colorado River... Colorado River... Lake Mead... Las Vegas... Phoenix... and the rest of the Colorado River Basin... Pacific Ocean... the Mississippi River watershed... Gulf of Mexico... Atlantic Ocean... Need I go on? Hello, Southwest Drought! Hello, Climate Change! The inversion was deliberately engineered and maintained, to alter the local microclimate. I have worked on eliminating the inversion for the past decade. Meteorological records of the past decade reflect both progress and setbacks, where the setbacks resulted from continuous subversive activity to re-establish and maintain the inversion. Refer to the National Temperature and Precipitation Maps for CONUS. Something changed between between winter 2021-2022 and winter 2022-2023. CONUS went from one of the driest winters in the 128-year period of record to one of the wettest. Maybe you've heard about the near-record snowpack in the Sierra Nevada or the unprecedented blizzard in Southern California. Enough of the obstructions were removed to restore atmospheric circulation. Conditions that resulted from drought (erosion and thinned vegetation) enhanced the winter weather when the blockage was removed. The Rebels are winning.
Sorry about this, but all this video has done for me is to convince me that humanity has a death wish, but I do hope he’s right about a massive change in attitude.
There is something I don't totally understand : what you're describing is basically what the co-founders of XR have done between 2018 and April 2019, right ? You in fact have already done what you are advocating, unless there is something I'm missing. What would you have done differently ? Focus on something smaller than XR's 3 demands ? But as you argue, you did "win" and it made international news...
You need some basic information. If the world warms by 2 degrees it's not like today being 2 degrees warmer than yesterday. It's that the *peaks* will be two degrees warmer *on average*. This means the peaks will be amplified in certain places by much more, like the 50 degree celsius temperature in western Canada recently. That's hot enough to kill. You will also get 'wet bulb' events where the moisture held in the air is high enough to prevent sweating from cooling you down, so that's lethal in hot weather. You also get more extreme weather events such as hurricanes, floods and droughts as we are already seeing. These events kill hundreds at a time, sometimes thousands. As the world continues to warm, these events will continue to grow in frequency and severity.
I always wondered why theres a thumbs up option on these you tube comments. Can anyone tell me why you tube provides this option? What benefit is there for Google in providing the option to do this.
I believe the "You Tube algorithm" uses the 'thumbs up' as a form of metric which allows it to promote material which is proving favourable with the YT audience.
@@MarkHopewellThank you for your reply Mark. I believe and suspect thats what we are only supposed to think. And as users and consumers how were trained to think. However it has a dual purpose. And I wondered what awareness others had of it.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I have come to the rational conclusion that google etc are harvesting thoughts arguments and ideas. Commodifying useful ideas argument and thought and then selling them to corporations and governments.
People have had much more than 6 months already - and now that XR has been around for awhile, it's also on XR's watch. Maybe there needs to be somethings that are more effective in parallel?
I joined ER yesterday and signed up on the website but received nothing. Is anyone administering the ER website? Why isn't the website set up to take donations? The ER website needs work. I want to organize and rebel and give my life for this cause if necessary. This is dire. Dr. Guy McPherson scared the shit out of me and lit a fire under my ass. Sometimes good old fashioned fear is all it takes.
So...An ad campaign. Advertise to people and get them to rebel. Great idea. But the modern powerful version of sticking up posters is called an integrated marketing communications campaign. Hopefully XR will try this approach.
Dude. It's too late. Over 65 tipping points have been crossed. We got biblical rains happening now. There is 14% more water in the air. The real killer is the Arctic ice. Right now there is still a tiny buffer. So the heated sea hits the buffer, which melts at 32f. When the ice buffer is gone (by 2025 Max) the sea heats the air to 124f. That's a cooker. Take about 2-3 years to start cooking. No matter what he says, you going in the cooker. No matter how he keeps sleeping the data. You can't stop it. But don't worry. There will be more HOPE VIDEOS out soon.
@@victorschwanberg Any action taken is just a side show. A form of propaganda to falsely give the impression and offer hopeful expectations for the folks under 25 that they have a chance of survival. It’s designed to keep them from running into the streets and causing social unrest. Politicians will pump $Trillions over the next decade to make it look like they are sincere but in the back of their minds they know it’s hopeless. They knew it was hopeless 50 years ago. That’s why it was more important to keep a steady economic pace with hopes nobody would notice. They let the oil, manufacturing, farming and ranching industry fight the facts with propaganda without any consequences. We passed the point of no return decades ago
We can’t look at history in hope that people will demand change like they have in the past because the climate crisis has very little consequences on people at the time. Unlike all other issues in history where the consequences where on the people and then they demand change to ameliorate their situation. This has very little consequences for people at this point and by the time they do get consequences the time to do anything about it will be long gone. The climate crisis is more like the NAZI rise in Germany in the 1930’s. The world watched the rise until the bombs started to fall on them before the public was completely mobilized. Unlike the NAZI plague we still had a chance of winning at that point but the climate crisis doesn’t have this opportunity. Even at this point if we shut down the economy and really got serious we would still face a much worse society in the coming years. I wish you guys good luck and all the hope in the world but it is a problem which the elites don’t believe they can solve and are simply trying to position themselves to survive the coming disaster. Good luck to all.
CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th part of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2,500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible. However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, in clear skies producing an unnaturally bright sun. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations). Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum. 'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists. The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few. Welcome to the future! _________ I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet. Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is. When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case. NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools. (NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology. Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.' This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).
Can I just personally try to communicate that there ARE nations that DO ACT way beyond the Paris climate agreement and DO better than average while doing it. Dont listen to what your politicians SAY, but what they DO, when it comes to this. Whatever nation you are in. Please hold your own nations climate efforts up against what has been decided in Denmark. Denmark ARE leading the way for Western industrialized nations! Let me inform/remind you. The basic promise, all in the Paris climate agreement have signed onto are: 50% reduction of greenhouse gasses (like CO2 and Methane) from 1990 level, before 2050. In Denmark we KNOW that this demand fulfilled are NOT ENOUGH to halt the climate changes already set in motion. It makes me proud to say that Denmark, in 2019, approved in parlament with 167 for, out of 179, to voluntarily, nationwide, reduce CO2 emissions with 70% from 1990 level before 2030! That is just 9 years from now! Inside the same decision the Danish parlament also have agreed that Denmark are NOT allowing themselves to buy CO2 quotas to deliver the result "on paper". It has to be a genuine and real reduction. So its a massive improvement and what the climate and the global population needs that ALL countries do. THAT is how you TAKE RESPONSIBILITY! On top of that, Denmark have oil in its underground and they have, approved in parlament a few months ago. Valid immediately, to also decide to stop their planned oilsector explorations and have decided that any oil in their underground are going to be stored CO2 that never will be released. They keep their current oil platforms (under the Paris agreement) but have decided to decommission platforms either, as they get to old or the wells they have under them run dry. Denmarks change away from fossile fuels have been focused on land and off shore windmills. Off shore windmill parks are large scale where they are going. The overall vision are to be more than 100% selfsustained with sustainable green energy and usage and eventually export both sustainable electricity and hydrogen. Denmark would be able to ramp up our plans considerably reg. sustainable electricity and hydrogen production pretty fast if other nations or companies would commit to same longterm deals as they do on oil. Our decades long experience raising off shore windmill parks means we have the knowledgeable workforce to respond relatively fast and the newest generations of off shore windmills are producing KVW considerably cheaper than just a few years ago. The entire globes energy (electricity and hydrogen incl. if all cars ran hydrogen) need could easily be covered by off shore windmills. It REALLY makes no sense we dont, once and for all, take the principle decision to do just that inside a very short year-span. It would create a global supergrowth periode and after doing that or even at same time we could build a global continent connecting vaccum based hyperloop, let a global supergrid follow same route and a space elevator. These 4 decisions would have the ability to improve ALL our lifes, restore conditions for us and biodiversity and significantly improve our lifes without destroying our habitat. A global mega decision on raising off shore windmills would also be a lifesaver for our oceans. I have privately dived at Danish off shore windmill foundations and they function as artificial reefs and create living space for first mussles and seaweed and that leads to living conditions for smaller fish, the bottom (foundation) for the marine foodchain. It is estimated that over 20% of global marine life are directly linked to global coral reefs and these are under pressure because of global warmer water and experience increasing bleaching events that eventually can kill the reefs off. Maybe industrial seaweed production, that Denmark experiment with, can reduce the natural gas production in cows and thus again have another positive spin off that create jobs and allow us to continue to eat meat with less negative impact. In my book it is bad business for us all if we dont speed these things up NOW where we DO have the tech and the solutions. We know that the planets regulating weather/water systems dont respond to negative or positive changes overnight, so the current decline will take time to reverse, we ought to have made radical changes 20 years ago. NO time to waste! Enough talk, lets ACT! IF ANY politician in your nation claims it would cost your nation "to much" to act as science proves we HAVE TO, then show them this! The fossile fuel industry STILL in 2021, are the globally most subsidized sector, not even close to be a free market. At least dont use taxpayer money to destroy our planet! WHY SPEND ever increasing taxpayer money to repair ever increasing symptom of climate change, floods, draughts, climate refugees, consequences of deforestation, the decrease in living landmasses due to raising waters, desertification etc. etc. I wanna INVEST in transforming our energy production and usage to a sustainable one. WE WILL have to do the INVESTMENTS to transform under all circumstances but makes no sense to wait and just increase the bill by having to pay for the ever increasing costs by waiting. Acting NOW are the best INVESTMENT we can make for ourselves. It will be a huge economic growth and jobcreator on top. It is NOT a matter of living on a stone but a matter of TRANSFORMING how we do things. LOOK at Denmark! It IS being done with succes here! Google. "Denmark and energy islands"
agree with urgency but definitely have a different opinion about your (academic) theory that movements that change things came out of nowhere! ending slavery, colonialism, patriarch (to name a few western struggles) have taken centuries and we 're still not there!!!!
So in other words; 1. bin democracy 2. appoint 5 ideologues to be in charge of countries 3. Implement revolution through emergency powers 4. revert to a pre industrial society
Civil disobedience may work to change a concept of thought such as racism. What is called for with climate is a Marshall Plan/Manhattan Project to "manufacture" a comprehensive global strategy for a just, fair, and durable solution. We know the problem. We must expend global resources to Geoengineer a solution. Civil resistance merely sheds light on a problem which enough in power already know exists. Time left must focus on a last ditch effort at solving the problem. Mr. Hallam is unfortunately living in the rear view mirror of what constitutes rational thinking for a long lasting durable strategy for longterm solution to rescue humanity from climate and civilization collapse.
I'll make another comment and see if it gets removed. I made one on a more recent ER UK and it was removed. This ER UK talk is from a year earlier. Several tipping points have started now and this is April of 2023. Emissions are rising even more rapidly now and war has increased. Just how can anything happen to get a handle on the temperature when everything continues to get worse? And tipping points have started? And coal plants are being built and drilling for oil is on the rise? In my very knowledgeable opinion the human race and all life has entered the 6th Extinction. I'd like to hear how anyone can refute that !
I dont get why Roger isn't addressing the conundrum of Global Dimming and Dr.Tao's MEERs project not in this focused video but more generally. Given they are a fundamental to understanding the climate and the solution why not? - Questions from a supporter.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο I dont understand your assertions that both global dimming and Dr. Taos project is a lie. Both are very real. Im open minded but despite my plain effort your explanation sounds at least a little obscure and for me makes little sense.
Agree with much you have explained Roger. Back in the day I and many others recognised the issues that as advocates of 'The Zeitgeist Movement' understood to be a fundamental corruption of the world and questioned 'here's Utopia' as an answer simply to campaign for. I get that Peter Joseph never meant this but how many didn't to leave as let down and frustrated? If XR is to campaign for a sustainable future, I have and I do, we surely must have a vision that provides for a better world because we are sustainable and can do more with more energy to 'shake manifestos at' along with a world largely stuck in the Bronze Age (on purpose to maintain power) it must provide attainable vision. I would suggest.
There is no turning back blue ocean event maybe 2022 I get it we can't say it's the end we need hope but I moved on to the next stage I'm selling everything and preparing for earth's demise
I listened from start to finish, even when I will not show up in your statistics as one who did because I downloaded the presentation. Now I'm an armchair thinker about this, making this song (ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MWO2eA7s5mE.html) is closest as I came to active protest, but as I listened I noticed two flaws that may be worth discussing. The idea that there is great concern in the population is correct, but not in the way the speaker assumes. The concern is about how much of the social surplus can be taken by the individuals (will I be able to buy a BMW, will I be able to fly to my holiday destination, will I have a job, etc.). I'm not impressed at all by actual concern about the environment, depletion, etc. in the target population for other reasons than plain selfish ones. Perhaps even more important: what exactly will be the end goal of the civil unrest? I mean, in the case of voting rights of women or ending slavery it is clear what goal is to be accomplished. What goal does this civil uprising have? What future model of society can be presented?
A general work strike across a nation would be "massively disruptive"? Question: What would you have done with the "Occupy" movement? MLK was before "terrorism" became a strategy of political repression, and in america, treason and Sedition~not to mention a "terrorism" conviction~are not 3 week prison sentences~but years~ if not "life" sentences. Of those people going off to prison, who will then support their families for the duration? And there's another problem that I haven't heard anything about in terms of fundamental change in a society~which is indicated today. I would argue that totalitarianism is a new type of society in human history; it is an "anti~society", that is, a "society" of individuals alienated from each other and with weak social connection to their society and whose internal/subjective motivations actually come~not from within themselves but from outside themselves~yet believe they live lives that are their own. Nazi Germany was, in my opinion, the first example of an "anti~society", but on a far more technologically primitive level~hence the need for obvious force. Each member of this type of social organization is credulous and easily opened to and manipulated by propaganda, and easily fanatasized by a leader~who tends to be seen by most as "superhuman". How to overcome the pervasive alienation, credulity, and leader worship?
