@@checkyoursix5623 NO, Moonshine burns better than Gas with Ethanol. It's hotter. Good moonshine burns almost a clear flame with a light blue tint. That's about 150 proof.
@@pietikke5598 Oil companies don't want anything to do with Ethanol. No ethanol = more pure gas to sell. Ethanol was a scam pushed by Midwest politicians to sell more corn. It requires more fuel to make ethanol from corn but no leader, including the one in the White House, has the balls to stop this because they would lose Iowa, Kansas, Nebraska et al in the next election.
Many of the WalMart Murphy gas stations and others are offering no-ethanol gas now. The EPA is finally acknowledging that our original gas was fine and that ethanol only creates problems. So far all of the ethanol-free gas is 87 octane which is actually the optimum spec for most of these generators especially the Hondas. Higher octane in a smaller/low compression engine is not a benefit. Don't bother with it. You don't get as much energy out of it in these engines like you do a high compression automotive engine.
Very Good...you just forgot one thing. When you decide to store your GenSet (Lawn Mower, 4 wheeler or any other small engine powered device)..while it is running turn the FUEL supply off and let it run until it dies. This will all but empty the carburetor fuel bowl! Been doing this for 40 years and never had a gummed up carburetor.
On my harbor freight generator, running it dry caused the carburetor float valve to stick open every time I tried it. The first time I turned the gas back on after that, the engine cylinder filled with gas. I could barely turn the engine over and liquid gasoline poured from the exhaust when I finally turned it over. I had to beat on the carb to unstick the valve. A lot of gas went into the oil. I had to give up on that procedure since it caused such a dangerous condition.
@@AnsweringAtheism It is quite unlikely running your engine dry caused this sticky float and inlet pin problem. Switch to non ethanol or coleman fuel. Running dry is the best way to keep the carb from gumming up. Small engine expert 45 years.
There was probably some damage done from ethanol previous to your issue, however it is more likely some small particle found its way to get in between the pin and seat of the float. Drop the bowl, float and pin, and give the carb a good cleaning. Adding a small in line filter will also help, and buy a new fuel canister, maybe yours is old and dirty inside.
I use Stabil in a five-gallon can. I get fresh gas for winter and I burn the old gas in my car. I then get fresh gas for the summer and burn the leftover winter gas in my car. I always run the motor dry before I store it. I could go many years before I use my generator or chain saw.
Good advice. One thing I do to keep fuel fresh is to rotate my stock. I use Stabil in my stored fuel, but I also pour it into my cars after 6 months or so, and refill the cans. I also run my generator every few months to expose any problems before I need it. I shut it down by turning off the fuel, letting it die, and then try to restart it three times with the fuel off.
I run the same type a schedule. I have 27 gal on hand for the emergency generator use, and store non ethanol fuel with Stabil. Every 6 months, I pour the fuel into the car and buy fresh Gas and Stabil it. I have also been transitioning from the original plastic 5 gal cans to the metal, Eagle, type 1 cans. They seem to have a tighter seal.
@@1badpete999 Words ave little weight. I can prove this by breathing on you..but won't, because I don't want and you don't want me to breathe on you (most likely).
They feed it to cows and cows are supposed to eat grass it’s fucked up, but it’s all because of Monsanto, they created a epicyte. Look it up and don’t eat corn.
ybgrsfd Yep. If your not looking for a whole house Genny, go with a dual fuel like the Champion 3500 that runs on either gas or propane. Store a few 20 gal propane tanks is easy. Or, if on rural land, go with a Generac whole house back-up and bury a 500 gallon LP tank.
Too complicated... just rotate your emergency fuel... last year's unused fuel goes in the car and fresh fuel for the emergency generator every year with some stabil added.
@@jonathaninman2224 Stabil will work to prevent varnishing of gas but it isn't going to prevent water or bond to it. It isn't designed for that. Above is correct rotate your fuel in mowers and cars. Date your cans, add stabil and exercise your equipment monthly to burn off any water resting in carb.
I do it for a year and replace right around Christmas so I remember. Then it goes in the car. I use ethanol free gas and sea foam preservative. I also bought a cheap battery operated gas pump off amazon. Holding a 5 gallon tank waist high and not spilling on your shoes is hard. I keep about 20 gallons around in a shed away from the house.
Only 4 miles from my address in Tennessee, a gas station has an ethanol free gasoline 91 octane option for small engine , marine uses or any non-diesel engine for that matter. It's really nice and handy for fillng a 5 gallon container for my lawn equipment, so I don't have to worry about corrosion damage or the like. Also I fill up my car's tank every fourth time to help keep water contamination down and octane level up to a good range. The price is usually only about 60 to 70 cents more per gallon. Peace out!
There are a dozen or more gas stations by me that sell ethonal free. It's usually $1 or more expensive per gallon than premium, so about $1.50 more than regular. I use it occasionally when I store fuel in my jet skis and other small engines.
I'm a tanker driver. I don't personally haul few but many of my friends in the industry do. They all tell me that they unload whatever fuel is in their tank trailer into whatever ground tank has the room. The most important thing is to not return to the terminal with product.
When I was in the small engine repair business I bet 25% of the engines I got in for repair had algae or mold or something growing in the carburetor bowl.
My neighbours are pretty aware that I am the "fix anything" guy. Every spring, there is increased demand for bringing mowers, weedtrimmers and other tiny gas gulpers back to life. Crap and gunk in carb bowl and jets is the culprit.
@@randomstuffwithnofluff7472 It's no joke that they are immune to most of the laws. I even saw them set up sidewalk restaurants, right in front of legitimate restaurants. And I've seen countless sidewalk fruit stands, right in front of grocery stores. Try that if you're American! There's clearly a push to support illegals and their illegal activities, while Americans are being fined and sometimes jailed for doing the very things that illegals get away with daily.
Yeah tell me about it . And now they Chemtrail the crap out of us , been doing it for a few years now . For some reason they didn't spray us as much in years past . Looking to buy some land and in many photos you can see friggin streaks going across the sky . Pisses me off . Now we have this Plandemic social engineering psi op running and the sheeple will do anything they're told . Pathetic .
Extremely ACCURATE and solid advice ! We are a small engine service facility, and see literally dozens of ethenol fuel related damaged carburetors every single month ! While we do sell a quality fuel stabilizer called Gas-Shok ! That I highly recommend by the way ! It by far exceeds the commonly found fuel stabilizer you find in your local auto parts store, or discount store. ( I won't call it by name ) But it's just not worth the money ! The pre-containerized racing fuels are optimal for longer term storage ! What they did not mention here, ( and this is critical ) You MUST exercise your generator once a month ! Ten or fifteen minutes every month ! ( Always allow your generator to cool down before refueling ) And please folks, refueling MUST be done OUTSIDE, and in a WELL VENTILATED area ! Make a point to mark your selected exercise day on your calendar. Pick an easy day for you to regularly perform this little exercise once a month ! It doesn't hurt to actually plug something in to your generator, make sure it is actually making power every month ! This is a very important step folks, and will help insure that your generator will run properly when you need to count on it the most ! Not to mention, most generator manufacturers recommend this exercise ! PLEASE MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE YOU ARE RUNNING YOUR GENERATORS OUTSIDE, AND IN A WELL VENTILATED AREA AT ALL TIMES ! ( NO EXCEPTIONS ON THIS )
Or, people should rise up and demand that governments stop pushing ethanol fuel, which is no fit-for-purpose, and allow folks to use fuel in its optimal form.
Many of the WalMart Murphy gas stations and others are offering no-ethanol gas now. The EPA is finally acknowledging that our original gas was fine and that ethanol only creates problems. So far all of the ethanol-free gas is 87 octane which is actually the optimum spec for most of these generators especially the Hondas. Higher octane in a smaller/low compression engine is not a benefit. Don't bother with it. You don't get as much energy out of it in these engines like you do a high compression automotive engine.
If Creepy Joe has his way there won't be Gas period and if there is it will cost a fortune,, more than you can justify compared to just letting your refrigerator food go to waste.
@@Vladviking If Creepy Joe has his way half the country would be killed and put into mass graves or dumped in the ocean and you won't need a generator. Drama queen.
Ha, I thought this might give us some kind of reasonable idea(s) like ADDING a ‘stabilizer’, etc to a fuel supply. Ended up being a SUNOCO ad for OUTRAGEOUSLY priced, unobtainium fuel in a ‘can’...
Ethanol is another Gov't Boondoggle!!! Costs 4 to 5 times as much to manufacture as Gasoline. Great for the corn farmers not so great for the people who are forced to buy gas with it added to the fuel. Another We are from the Government and we are here to Help!!!!
In fact mixing in ethanol isnt a completely bad idea. But you know all noble and good ideas ... when it comes to realization... turn utterly bad, especially when caried out by govts. Ethanol is viable fuel but ... Definitely not good idea to produce corn/whatever on purpose and just distill them. Acceptable and reasonable is to utilize waste byproducts. (eg. sugar cane) . My incredibly old car ran pretty good on E85 after minor mods.
The days before the addition of ethanol, you could keep gas ten years and it work just fine. Today fuel that is three months old will give you problems.
yup. when we first went to E10 and I had to replace 6 of my fuel pumps in my cars in our household I did some testing. ONE of those tests was to pull gasoline out of the RV that had been sitting for over 10 years. burned fine and my MPG's returned :-)
@@nerys71 Years ago my father parked a old buick that he put in premium gasoline. The car sat for at least 0 years. I sciphoned the gas out of the tank and checked it in a glass jar. Guess what the fuel looked normal and I ran it in a mower first and then my new truck and it ran just fine. You can never do that with the new gas. Would turn into varnish for sure. THANKS FOR NOTHING BASTARD GAS AND OIL COMPANIES. vf
Thanks for the video and great information! I can't afford the ethanol free gas you referred to, but this is what I have been doing successfully for the last 10 years. I treat my gasoline with Stabil (one of the treatments that didn't pass the professor's test) and mark the date I purchased the gas, on the can, with a magic marker. When it is close to a year, I dump the unused gasoline into one of our cars and start the process over. Every so often, one of the cans is a month or two passed the "expiration date' and the gasoline worked fine. I keep many more than the two 5 gallon cans the "gas police" supposedly allow, and have been using Sam's Club gasoline. BTW, Honda carbs are famous for the problem you mentioned.
The best option is remove the ethanol yourself ; it's a doddle. All you need to do is mix water ( distilled or de ionised ) 2 parts to 1 with your gasoline ( petrol ) in a clear ( see through ) container after first adding a few drops of food dye ( preferably red in colour / color ) to the water. Shake it up and leave to stand overnight. Next day the gas will be sitting on top of the red coloured ethanol/water mix. Carefully siphon off the gas leaving ( most of ) the ethanol behind. This method normally leaves you with fuel that has between 1 to 2% ethanol in the fuel, at most. I will leave you to decide what to do with the Ethanol.....
So on an 8 minute video over half has nothing to do with long term storage. Just get to the point already! This could have been a 5 second video - buy racing fuel.
When living in Southern Florida, we had five 6 gallon gas cans just for the generator! On June first, the gas we stored for hurricane season, we put into our cars! We then refilled these five gas cans with gas and stable for the hurricane season! We have had no problems with our cars or the generator in the 30 years we did this!! Now that we live in the Lake Tahoe area, we have three 6 gallon gas cans for the generator and snowblower! Stable works just fine!!!
@@maloney7461 I use Stable or another treatment and after running them, I have the engine on, shut the gas off and progressively close the choke keeping it running until it stops with little if any gas in the carb. When, needed in the future, open the gas shut off and start.
@@flighthelmet in an engine without emissions it’s fine. Ideal ? Not exactly. For storage purposes for a generator it’s perfectly acceptable. When generator is used you refill with pump gas to prevent lead build up. With the engine being air cooled at running at high power settings, the lead buildup is less of a concern anyway. To run avgas daily in lawn equipment would cause build up. But to say engine damage is a stretch. More like short plug life and filthy oil changes.
@@matth5309 depends on your area. For some reason it hasnt been made available in Houston. We can get Ethanol free fuel but thats only good for 6 months no stabil and 1 year with. Avgas is good for 10 years per manufacture. Its perfect storage fuel, however once im using the generator I use pump gas while its running. Lead does build up on the plugs over time. But like I said, its the perfect storage fuel.
I too am a 100LL user and have been for 30+ years. My lawnmower, gas weedeater, and blower have never seen a drop of pump gas. I generally keep 100-200 gallons in my hangar and ironically, I haul gas from the airport home to supply lawn machines. I did find that storing Avgas in your generator is not a good idea without some modification. The on/off valve has a small rubber o-ring and it didn't like Avgas, so over time, one drop at a time, it emptied itself. Took it apart and used an aviation grade O-ring instead. When in storage, I just run it till it quits. I run it every 6 months from 1/2 hour or so. The recent Texas Blackout left millions without electricity for several days. Made a quick run to the hangar and loaded up a 30 gallon drum and two 5 gallon cans of 100LL. Let the neighbors tap in anytime they wanted for making coffee, toaster, microwave, refrigerators, recharging phones, laptops etc. etc. I ran it 2-3 hours every 8 hours for days.
*Many of the WalMart Murphy gas stations and others are offering no-ethanol gas now! The EPA is finally acknowledging that our original gas was fine and that ethanol only creates problems. So far all of the ethanol free gas is 87 octane which is actually the optimum spec for most of these generators especially the Hondas. Higher octane in a smaller/low compression engine is not a benefit. Don't bother with it. You don't get as much energy out of it in these engines like you do a high compression automotive engine.*
Thank you for that info. Many people I know don't understand what the octane reading means. My brother-in-law is a mechanic and drag races on weekends. The octane rating is counter intuitive. I tried to explain it to him and his friends but they all think I'm an idiot. They insist that the higher octane level is bigger "boom". You'd think they would know better. I ended up buying these premium fuels simply because I wanted the lowest octane rating I could find. Small engines and motorcycles love the low octane stuff.
This is just for storage once you were using your generator like in a power outage you would switch to regular pump gas and save the good stuff for storage
Another issue with the content of the video: we had issues with gasoline gumming up in storage long before anyone ever thought of adding ethanol to it. That’s why products like sta-bil were invented.
One hint: Keeping your gas tank completely full will eliminate any condensation in the tank. No air in tank = nothing for water to condense out of. Basically this means either store the generator empty or completely full. Also, from the world of aircraft. We always run the engine until it stops from lack of fuel. Having fuel sitting in the carb is considered bad/dangerous.
Rotate your stored fuel. I keep a 55 gallon drum in the shed. The drum is ventilated to the outside of the shed for vapor control using copper tubing, fuel line, and various brass hose fittings. Every year and a half or so, the fuel in the drum ends up in the cars/trucks to be used as normal. Then, new fuel is replenished to the drum. If you're really serious about a fuel with an infinite shelf life, go with Coleman white fuel. It's the stuff sold at Walmart for camping lantern and cooking stoves. Oh yeah, the stuff is a bit pricey. In addition, it will eventually evaporate away over the years. As with all long-term storage of emergency supplies, constant testing, inventory checking/control, and proper rotation are the key to it working when really necessary.
In Canada, Premium grade fuel (91 Octane) is ethanol free (E0); that's all I use in my small motors, and have never had a failure. I also let the carb run dry by cutting the fuel and let it run till it stops.
Orrrrr just keep a few 5 gallon gas cans and rotate by pouring the old stuff in your car say every couple of months and refill at the pump. I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun to give the middle finger to Gavin Nuisance and his clan in Kaliforniastan, but I don't think I have $12 a gallon to spend on race fuel. I like the info on the fuel stabilizers though....BG. I think I've heard of that stuff on The Motorman radio show.
Never did tell us what additives are recommended. For what it's worth, I use "StaBil" in my stored gasoline for up to one (1) year and it has never failed me.
I, too, use Stabil. I run my gen 15 minutes every two weeks when I am not camping. Generator is now almost 6 years old. Runs SLIGHTLY rough but seems to work well.
My lawnmower has used E10 gas for 15 years, no problem, just add fuel stabilizer. You all just buy power equipment from manufacturers who are too cheap to let it work correctly.
Guess this guy never heard of REC 90. No alcohol in it. Sold at some land stations plus those on the water for marine industry. Typically around 3.00 a gallon.
@@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537 Excellent point. If you are going portable as I am buy a dual fuel generator and a large propane tank. Propane has a very long shelf life. When disaster strikes you can begin by running off the propane then switch to fresh gasoline once the propane runs out. Propane burns faster and your generator will not produce as much energy but it is a great option. It would really bad if you needed to run your generator only to find the gas you just filled it up with is bad.
Jeff Banfield that’s true, but I’ve never seen a dual propane and natural gas setup? All the Dual Fuel setups I’ve seen are Gasoline or Propane, which in MHO is the best way to go, just as long as you have at least 4-5 days of propane stored if you’re in an area that’s had historical significant power outages!
Rather disappointed, was hoping he'd get into the details of storing treated fuel in a phenolic epoxy lined oxy-proof metal container with the headspace purged of oxygen with dry ice thats sublimated and displaced the air just prior to container sealing. I did considerable research and testing on this. Gasoline will last for a good decade this way, diesel about 25 years.
Ethanol is such a load of crap. Takes as much energy to make as it renders, is highly corrosive to certain substances that gas is not, and requires special handling for long-term storage.
I have had the Honda 2000 for many years now. What was left out of this video, and most important, is to drain the carburetor before 'lay up'. If you are not going to run or exercise the generator for more than two weeks, drain the carburetor. The small screw on the bottom of the carb with the drain hose is there for just that reason. The tiny jet in the carb is prone to clogging as the fuel evaporates while sitting. You will know you have this problem if the motor surges, or won't run without the choke partially on. Yes, you can clean the jet yourself if you know carburetors, otherwise expensive service charge. It will take a few extra pulls to start next time, but it will run correctly. Also, the shutoff on the fuel cap is there to minimize oxidation and water vapor in the tank, be sure to use it.
Here is my strategy: Buy gas in 2 gallon containers and mix with sta-bil in the can and date it. After 6 months it goes into my car and a fresh batch replaces it. Rotate as many 2 gallon containers as you want (I do 3), but 2 gallons is more manageable so you don't add too much to your car at once and you don't get arthritis trying to pour it. Never keep gas in your generator or other gas tools long term, that's important. Just burn off excess in the generator or when you put your tools away for the season, make sure everything is out of gas if you don't see yourself using them in the near future.
I keep one gallon of gas in a separate can, putting Stabil into it. I fill my Honda generator, which holds less than a gallon, also with Stabil. I start the generator and let it run for 10-15 minutes every two weeks when I am not using it for camping. Been doing that for almost 6 years. The generator runs SLIGHTLY rough, at idle. Other than that, it seems to continue to work well. I am not an expert with this. Do you have any additional suggestions?
A dual fuel, Pump Gas / Propane generator is the ONLY way to go. For one thing propane is WAY cheaper than that 5 gal can of Sunoco, and propane stores for much longer periods of time with no degradation, and finally if you use ANY KIND of liquid gas in your generator you need to disassemble and clean the carb and fuel system before you store it for long periods. No such worry with propane fuel use, your back-up generator is ready to go anytime, every time. Well worth the minimal added cost for a dual fuel unit.
You know you live in a rich area when the most common generator you see is the overpriced Honda EU2000i. Around here, we have Wen, A-Ipower, and a few Yamahas.
Costco 91 octane gas is ethanol free. Also, rated as Top Tier gasoline, so there are strict standards that must be met before labeling it as such. No need to blow the mortgage on generator fuel.
The little black jet shown in the beginning of this video, is the slow speed jet. The engine will surge at low speeds if it is clogged. No start/hard starts, runs and dies, would involve the main jet and emulsion tube inside carburetor. (center of float bowl).
For those curious where to find ethanol free gasoline, look for a country store/ farm supply. Farm implements and older tractors don’t play nice with ethanol and it is usually available in all 3 common octane levels. You can tell it’s ethanol free by the clear color as opposed to light amber.
Many of the WalMart Murphy gas stations and others are offering no-ethanol gas now. The EPA is finally acknowledging that our original gas was fine and that ethanol only creates problems. So far all of the ethanol-free gas is 87 octane which is actually the optimum spec for most of these generators especially the Hondas. Higher octane in a smaller/low compression engine is not a benefit. Don't bother with it. You don't get as much energy out of it in these engines like you do a high compression automotive engine.
You can make ethanol-free gas from pump gas by adding water, mixing and let the ethanol/water mixture settle out and drain it. The ethanol and water bond together and settle to the bottom. Your octane rating will suffer so start with high octane. As for those recommending propane: while it's true that propane will last forever, it doesn't have as much energy as gas(1gal gas=1.36gal propane I think), the carboration is more complex($$), and it doesn't work well in colder climates(see below). Also, natural gas is only good as long as the utilities are working. And if you're getting it as LNG then I have to believe you would start having the same cold weather problems as with propane. I guessing that a liquified hydrocarbon fuel that is gaseous at room temperature wants to stay a liquid in really cold weather. But, that's a guess. It's all about trade-offs unless you have lots of land and you're willing to use wood and animal dung(very renewable).
I guess I am lucky. I can still buy Gas at the Local Gas Station that is Non Ethanol. We live in an Agricultural area and most everyone runs Non Ethanol in most of their equipment on the Farms and use it for "mixing" for the weedeaters, chain saws, Leaf Blowers, etc. Great Video.
Or if you do what I do and just rotate the emergency fuel into your car tank and then get new fuel you don't need any fancy stuff like he's talking about.
I put the fuel stabilizer and a injection cleaner with something to help with water. Living in Florida the Hurricane season is 6 months, but can get them outside that time. When the season is over and a short time after I put the fuel in my truck. Save some for lawn mower, grass grows year around here but slower in the winter. This system has worked well for me. And just for the record before there was ethanol in the gas it still got water in it when stored for a long time. Airplanes don't have ethanol in the gas but they try to have them near full because it gets less water in the fuel that way. They also have water drains just for this. Long ago many cars had glass bowls near the fuel pumps so people could see if there was water in the fuel.
Can buy gasoline with ethanol and simply add a couple cups of water to it in a container with a spigot on bottom and agitate then let set several hours and drain off the water. Your left with pure gasoline. Done it with fuel from boat with open air vent that needed drained and runs like a champ!
Hennessey, 30kW ? Really ? What are you guys running a commercial machine shop ? If you need 30 k to power your home you are Really doing something Wrong........
@@TheCharleseye They have a hand crank generator to power their computer just long enough to leave a comment on RU-vid. Hurry up Michael hurry up damn can't you type any faster my hand's getting tired. Oh!! screw it..
good info. i start my generator once or twice a year and make sure its good to go and I make sure to have fuel on hand before bad storms, ice storms, etc happen.....usually you have a few days advance if things start to go south. but i start mine and turn the gas off to let it empty the carb bowl so no corrosion in the carb as well. and i keep a dedicated heavy duty extension cord nearby just for the generator
Don't leave any kind of gasoline in your Generators fuel tank or carburetor drain both thoroughly before storing long term. Every generator carb i have rebuilt was caused by leaving gas ethanol or pure in the carburetor float bowl.
I buy only 100% gas and use Sta-Bil for my generator gasoline supply. 100% gasoline is widely available in some parts of the country. Costs about .30 to .40 cents more per gallon than E10.
Absolutely fantastic video!!!!! I live in the Seattle metro area and i can buy 100 octane aircraft fuel from Kenmore Air (located on the North end of Lake Washington). this fuel is non leaded and no ethanol. The price of the fuel is about $5.00 a gallon. I use this in my chain saw and generator. Brian really like your vids, THANKS
Buy Coleman stove fuel. It's $12.00 gallon. This recommendation is for small utility engines only. It is primarily Naptha, with at least a 5 year shelf life. Use straight up for 4 stroke engines, and it runs very smooth. Also Excellent for two stroke machines, but don't forget to add your two stroke oil according to the mfg. ratio indicated in your owners manual. This fuel will stay happy left in the carb for a year or better, but you should always store small engines bone dry.
