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Making your own ETHANOL FREE Gasoline!!! it's easier than you think!! 

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Today I was getting ready to cut grass and I noticed I didn't have any Gas for the lawnmower. I thought it would make for a good video on how to make ETHANOL FREE Gasoline.
Many people debate the effects of ethanol in gas, but that isn't what this video is about! I will show you how to remove it with just Water, a siphon hose and a clear glass jar! check it out...
#e85 #ethanol #gasoline
hope you enjoy this quick video!

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@johnNJ4024
@johnNJ4024 Год назад
I used to work as a lab worker in an organic extraction laboratory. Your gasoline, being cloudy is contaminated with emulsified water and needs to be "dehydrated" with anhydrous sodium sulfate (it grabs a lot of water from solvents). And, likewise the top layer in your one gallon plastic jug is the gasoline with emulsified water. Look at the lower water layer in the one gallon plastic jug and you can tell about 1/2" to 3/4" of water is emulsified in the gasoline. If you let the gasoline/water mixture sit overnight you'll probably notice the gasoline is clear again. Myself, I wouldn't use the cloudy gasoline in any engine because it has a ton of emulsified water along with ethanol in it! If the gasoline isn't perfectly clear then it's contaminated with water!
@johnNJ4024
@johnNJ4024 Год назад
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove I watched another RU-vid video where the presenter puts 100ml of gasoline with 10% ethanol in a 100ml graduated cylinder and just pours in an additional 20ml of water. No shaking. Just pours it in and the water goes straight to the bottom of the graduated cylinder. The gasoline stays perfectly clear. Then he waits 15 minutes and shows there's 30ml of an aqueous/ethanol layer at the bottom. The gasoline was pretty much then ethanol free and clear as a bell. This demonstrates that you don't have to shake the gasoline and water at all. Just add twice the percentage of water and the ethanol will selectively dissolve into the water leaving the gasoline ready to use. Couldn't be much easier!
@johnNJ4024
@johnNJ4024 Год назад
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove Since gasoline is a mixture of hexane, benzene, toluene, xylene, octane plus stabilizers, etc. I'm not sure how much the emulsified water would separate, but I'm guessing most would after 24 hours and the gasoline should clear up. I don't know if anhydrous sodium sulfate would be 100% necessary or not. In the lab, we only used pure solvents in extraction procedures. Some extractions needed the sodium sulfate and some didn't. The High Pressure Liquid Chromatography (HPLC) columns sometimes needed a blend of two or three solvents, but I didn't operate those machines so I'm not as knowledgeable with how blended solvents react to emulsified water.
@Dwigt_Rortugal
@Dwigt_Rortugal Год назад
@@6gatornation I've tried gumount octane booster in a Sta-Bil container with the built in measuring device, but doing this in your garage is far from an exact science. I tried the water ethanol separation method last year, and I found it to be more trouble than it's worth, personally. I let it sit for a few days to separate fully, but the leftover "ethanol" smokes and smells strongly like petroleum, uncharacteristic of ethanol. My small engines ran on the resulting separated gasoline, but they didn't seem to run as well. If I ever have time to invest in side endeavors, I might try to obtain aviation gasoline from an airport. If there are any pilots reading this, I'm curious if it's generally available to anyone in the public who drives up.
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 Год назад
@@6gatornation If you pull the etoh out, it will lower the octane equiv by about 2pts (r+m/2). 10% etoh 93 octane fuel probably started life as 91 octane (r+m/2). So you'd windup with about 91 but it may not be a healthy "brew" in the way of acidic compounds. There are a LOT of other chemicals in gas to consider. 95 octane equiv, about the lowest "Race Gas" you can buy alcohol free, costs $20/ gal, so you could add it to your "brew" but, you might look into why they don't want you to use e-10 and take measures to negate the problems. Hope this helps. ben/ michigan
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 Год назад
@@Dwigt_Rortugal Jim, I bought it all the time when I was younger. I was looking for 100 or more Leaded and I bought it a lot. They would not let me put it right into my gas tank because it didn't have road tax on it. But I did it anyway at a slew of little grass airports. The others made me put it into a gas can and then I could "drink it if I wanted to" was their words. ben/ michigan
@Bobcat1950
@Bobcat1950 Год назад
I am giving you a big thumbs up for all the informative comments listed below. The explanations of engine knock, vaporization, ethylene glycol, ethanol subsidies, adding dye to the separation mixture, the safety warning about storing chemicals in unlabeled containers, etc. You have an excellent, well informed community following your content, and I commend them.
@tanyareese5842
@tanyareese5842 Год назад
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@jhaedtler
@jhaedtler Год назад
You can also contact the fuel jobber and buy ethanol free fuel direct from them. The ethanol is not added at the refinery. The jobber adds it as it is needed.
@mikecondoluci53
@mikecondoluci53 2 года назад
MAN I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANKS ANDY
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
Thanks Mike! Andy
@OshuaJiles
@OshuaJiles Месяц назад
I've ran 10% ethanol in every engine I've ever owned and it's literally never caused me any problems. Old timers will say it gunks up carburetors or it's bad on small engines and that's a load of crap. Your carburetors gunk up or your jets clog because you left gasoline in your mower all winter long. Run the fuel out before storing and these issues will disappear.
@douglasdever6134
@douglasdever6134 Год назад
Why not just to purchase it as needed?
@thejerseyj5479
@thejerseyj5479 Год назад
I have a small airport about a mile from me and I buy my chainsaw and splitter gas from there. Aviation fuel doesn't have ethanol, is higher in octane and has stabilizer in it already. All this for about two dollars more per gallon.
@myleftthumb2294
@myleftthumb2294 2 года назад
I would probably have just siphoned the pure gasoline off the top down to maybe within an inch of the separation line and then kept the remainder for mixing into the next batch.
@mrcryptozoic817
@mrcryptozoic817 Год назад
I like that. Your less likely to get water in your gas.
@joshuabennett7334
@joshuabennett7334 Год назад
I was thinking about that but siphoning is like a straw so unless you go from the bottom it is likely to draw the water back up through the fuel and mix it again. I think I would try a food dye in the water but it would be a experiment because the dye might strip off into the gasoline.
@mikefelty2625
@mikefelty2625 Год назад
I thought the same thing
@thinkingimpaired5663
@thinkingimpaired5663 Год назад
Anybody try building a separation tank with a bottom drain to remove the water from the bottom? After removing the water I figure some fuel stabilizer in the remaining fuel will help. I also have a water fuel separation funnel that perhaps I'll run the remaining fuel through first before adding the stabilizer. I just haven't figured out exactly how to build a good fuel separation tank with a bottom drain. The separation funnel can be used on gasoline and diesel to remove dirty fuel too, with I believe a teflon coated mesh filter. Some people just mix water in gas then just run through the filter. Filter is 35 dollars for a small filter, but it's best to get the larger filter to handle 5 gallons of fuel at a time. I bought both. The product is called Mr Funnel available at many local stores. Mr Funnel doesn't work with stabilized fuel.
@cowdiologist2759
@cowdiologist2759 Год назад
Make a separation Funnel like we use in Chemistry class. It's a large funnel with a valve on the bottom and you drain off the water with ethanol (it forms an azeotrope). I wonder if any one has tried to distill the ethanol from the mixture or does the gas odor and other water soluble hydrocarbons and additives contaminate the water. Either way, this is a DANGEROUS procedure. I would only do it outside and not in my shop.
@michaelhaigh5089
@michaelhaigh5089 Год назад
I’ve been purifying my gas for 2 years now I use a 5 gallon plastic carboy from Amazon and it has a petcock on the bottom . Some recommendations use distilled water mixed with blue or red Food dye the dye is water soluble and when the mixture separates it gives a clear delineation of the water/ ethanol mixture verses the purified gas. Ethanol burns slower and is part of the octane rating of the gasoline so if you start with a 93 octane rated fuel you’ll end up close to 87 octane. Note octane is actually isooctane which inhibits the rate of combustion and thereby decreases engine nock. Finally it takes a minimum of 12 hours for complete separation of the gas from the ethanol /water mixture . I always draw off the pure gasoline 24 hours after mixing.
@silverhorder1969
@silverhorder1969 Год назад
You are aware there are stores that sell conventional gas with no ethanol?
@jimaslan4837
@jimaslan4837 Год назад
@@silverhorder1969 Up north in the corn belt, where I live, there aint one gas station within 75 miles. And I'm not traveling that far for mow gas. I wish there was so I didn't have to this.
@silverhorder1969
@silverhorder1969 Год назад
@@jimaslan4837 look for a COOP that sells gas. They quite often sell straight gas. Surely there is a COOP somewhere?
@gnuorder
@gnuorder Год назад
@@silverhorder1969 If the ethanol free pump is tied to one or more of the ethanol containing products, a good bit of your first gallon of ethanol free gas will come from what ever is in the hose from what ever was last pumped and will likely have ethanol in it. In that case it's a good idea to pump a few gallons into your car before filling your mower can.
@silverhorder1969
@silverhorder1969 Год назад
@@gnuorder I agree. I always gas up my truck first. I haul gasoline and here’s a little more advice, the arm at ALL of the tank farms I’m carded at, that you load 0087 at, you also load 87E10 at. It’s a 4” line and for the first 50 or so gallons we’re getting 87E10. The state doesn’t require it to be 100% ethanol free. I’ve heard it has to be below 4%.
@Lagrange1186
@Lagrange1186 2 года назад
Glycol (antifreeze) works better than water on separating and with 87 octane you drop to 84 and with 93 it will drop to 91-90 ish on octane. I work for one of the big oil company’s and we test loads that head to the stations for ethanol content this way. It can help a fella make some 90 rec when you are in a pinch.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
I've never tried Antifreeze... That is pretty neat good info Thanks for watching Andy
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 2 года назад
So why is the "non-ethanol" gas more expensive than the gas that has been mixed on the truck with ethanol? I have never been able to figure that out!? The ethanol costs more than gasoline, so why would the fuel with the more expensive alcohol be less expensive? Ran my old Mustang with a hot air Paxton on E85, but mostly mixed for E60 as that was 100 octane instead of 105... Thanks!
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 года назад
That's why ya go fill up at a sleepy little airport with 100 low lead and none of that ethanol trash in it.
@Lagrange1186
@Lagrange1186 2 года назад
@@robertelmo7736 taxes my friend… it’s all about the taxes… Ethanol is a renewable energy and you get the tax credit towards the 87 or 93 and when you take the ethanol out… you take the tax cut out
@johnshackelford6965
@johnshackelford6965 2 года назад
Putin is continuing Crimea war Ukraine gave up nukes Trump is going to the big house so my gas is drained. No end in sight. Only worse to come.
@imbadwrench
@imbadwrench 2 года назад
My bud used to do this, had a big canister with a petcock on the bottom to drain the water out.. used to leave the water/alcohol mix in a gas can in the barn...... gas can would mysteriously get emptied every now and then and one of the local kids would be selling a dirt bike or go kart a few days later..... he would buy them and flip them.
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty
@Anarchy-Is-Liberty 2 года назад
ROFLMFAO!!! That's hilarious!!
@Prestiged_peck
@Prestiged_peck 2 года назад
Stonks
@davenorman8251
@davenorman8251 2 года назад
Andy now to continue on..Take your ethanol/water mix and for that quantity add about 2 maybe 3 cups of salt and a small amount of food coloring and stir to dissolve it in the mix..then let it sit and the ethanol and the water will separate...then draw it off just the same. This method is called salting out.
@royblackburn1163
@royblackburn1163 Год назад
Thanks that's good , if I do it do you know if I could use the ethanol in a spirit burner for cooking when I go camping ? Cheers.
@MrVeryCranky
@MrVeryCranky Год назад
​@@royblackburn1163Yes.
@jameslaurinitis7580
@jameslaurinitis7580 2 года назад
Add some Toluene to the fuel and it will bump the octane rating right back up.
@Nobamaable
@Nobamaable Год назад
The gasoline should be clear and have a straw color. Yours appears to have entrained water in it making it appear cloudy. As an old aviation mechanic that did fuel samples every morning on our Coast Guard aircraft, I wouldn't use that gasoline in my engines. I'm a bit skeptical on your theory of removing ALL of the water from the gas...the entrained water still exists. Still a cool video.
@dwmcever
@dwmcever Год назад
Put a gas shutoff valve on your mower. Shut the valve off and run the mower til it dies after your last mow of the season or any time you are not going to run the engine. My honda started up first pull after not using it for a year. ALL gasoline will gum up your carb. Long before they came up with ethanol carbs plugged up.
@davidward1259
@davidward1259 Год назад
And Racor makes a water separation funnel. You could run the "pure" gasoline through it as a 2nd step just to make sure you have all the water our. Racor water separation filters are common items for boating.
@joesinakandid528
@joesinakandid528 2 месяца назад
"Mr Funnel" - same thing.
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852
@itseithergonnaworkoritaint7852 2 года назад
That's cool man, so what's that corn liquor that you extracted taste like without the gas in it?🤔
@bradyelich2745
@bradyelich2745 2 года назад
When we had purple gas on the farm in the 70's and 80's, Dad got some clear jerrycans, filled them and left them out in the sun for a couple days. The purple dye would fade and we had red gas for the car.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
That's pretty neat! Thanks for watching Andy
@bradhaliburton5974
@bradhaliburton5974 2 года назад
You can do the same thing with off-road diesel
@toejah
@toejah Год назад
@@bradhaliburton5974 The dye added to diesel is more than just a colourent. Theirs also a trace chemical that dose not go away and the tests they do to see if you are running dyed picks that up.
@2000freefuel
@2000freefuel Год назад
@@toejah I've seen bentonite clay cat litter used to filter dyed #2 fuel oil.
@darryladams519
@darryladams519 4 месяца назад
​@@2000freefueland how good does that work
@lorinkramer5805
@lorinkramer5805 6 месяцев назад
I would like to share with you my method for getting ethanol free gas. I go to the corner gas station and buy ethanol free 93 octane gas. WHY, do people, as evidenced by all the RU-vid videos, go to all this dangerous screwing around? 87 octane in the vehicles and 93 octane in the small engines. I’m 75 and life has taught me at least one thing. Keep it simple; if a choice between just buying ethanol free gas or setting up the lab and going through a big rigmarole, I’ll buy the gas and be done with it. You were correct in warning, “Don’t do this in your house.” For those home chemists that didn’t get the message, I can’t wait to see who mixes up a batch in their basement and blows themselves to kingdom come. Be careful out there folks!🔥=🚒
@MCOult
@MCOult 3 месяца назад
In many parts of the country, ethanol-free gasoline is not available.
@lorinkramer5805
@lorinkramer5805 3 месяца назад
@@MCOult Okay, I’ll revise what I said. Where, you can get ethanol free gas, I would suggest using it. But I would be VERY careful mixing up a home batch. A sure recipe for disaster.
@rlbadger1698
@rlbadger1698 2 месяца назад
@@lorinkramer5805 Not available in Ontario.
@patrickbassaloff3768
@patrickbassaloff3768 Год назад
Actually discovered this technique by accident, my riding lawn wouldn’t run, so ended up emptying the gas into a old glass wine bottle, then had to stop for the evening... came back to it the next evening and noticed the amount of separation, out of curiosity I decided to add the separation of gas back into the lawn mower and I’ll be damned if it didn’t crank up ! 😮
@JasbirSingh-zj1fg
@JasbirSingh-zj1fg Год назад
You mean to say that if I simply put some gasoline (that I bought from the pump) in a clear glass container and let it sit for ~24 hrs, I will see the separation clear enough to tell which is which?
@legionofanon
@legionofanon Год назад
​@@JasbirSingh-zj1fgmaybe not by JUST letting gas sit in a clear container for 24 hours. The point of adding the water is to give something heavier that the gas for the ethanol to bind to for the separation. What likely happened with the riding mower here is it sat all winter and it absorbed moisture from the atmosphere, and trying to use it in the spring it was drawing the water ethanol mix from the bottom and not the gas
@plips71755
@plips71755 Год назад
Well there isn’t any debate - once they added ethanol I started having difficulties for small engines.
@davidparker9676
@davidparker9676 Год назад
The new fuels have ruined many fuel systems of old vehicles. It is also responsible for many vehicle fires due to the ethanol attacking the rubber lines and seals, causing fuel leaks and fires. A few years ago, I saw a beautiful Rolls Royce catch on fire on the freeway, it completely demolished the car. The car was someone's prized collector piece they would take out on a Sunday drive, now it is gone to the scrapyard.
@antilogism
@antilogism Год назад
Messes with the mixture. My riding mower misses a bit and smells gassy on ethanol-laced and smooth and odor-free on plain gasoline.
@davidparker9676
@davidparker9676 Год назад
@@antilogism This video isn't intended for E85, it is intended for E10 or E15. E85 is mostly ethanol, you shouldn't be using E85 in something designed for regular pump gas.
@doomguy584
@doomguy584 Год назад
@@davidparker9676 remember cash for clunkers??? All part of their devious plan to get reliable vehicles off the road so they can sell you new garbage vehicles
@earlbrown
@earlbrown Год назад
You've been having difficulties since the 1970's when Carter mandated ethanol in gasoline? That's some bad luck there.
@fortyshooter1
@fortyshooter1 2 года назад
Never had a problem with E-10 87 pump gas in my lawn mowers. I had a 20 yr. old Craftsmen lawn tractor that I used pump E-10 87 gas in for it's 20 yrs. Took the carb off to take a look and it was shiny clean aluminum. Just don't store it with the carb full of gas.
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 2 года назад
Yeah me neither on the bigger mower engines, but have had some issues out of the small blocks (2 stroke weed eaters) and stuff.
@SweatyFatGuy
@SweatyFatGuy 2 года назад
Where do you live? Because its the additives that cause the problems. The additives are different region to region and they change with the seasons too. All of my E100 carbs are spotless inside, the E10 has some varnish, but anything with no ethanol is always loaded with varnish and rust.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
You are right depending on location and season! When you run E100 talk about being clean! Especially the lack of carbon when you tear down the engine! I would change the oil more frequently.. Andy
@SweatyFatGuy
@SweatyFatGuy 2 года назад
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage it takes some different thinking running ethanol. Sure you can run it like you do with gasoline, as cold as possible and lean, but that ends up using more fuel and making less power. On my E85/E100 engines I run them at least 195, preferably at 210, and on the street I like to see 220 coolant temps. The reason I do that is simple, I still get the big temp drop under the carb/throttle body, but the fuel vaporizes better in the runners as its doing that cooling. Then the oil gets hot enough to boil condensation out, and any fuel that might have seeped past the rings. Run ethanol and methanol engines with a 160 temp like you do on gasoline, and you will make less power, use more fuel, and make a milkshake in the oil pan. Most people go lean trying to make power on vodka, but E85 makes best power around 7.5:1 AFR. Its funny when you try to explain that to someone who is good at tuning gasoline and has never tried alcohol fuels. 7.5:1 and 210F temps, they freak out, especially with 13:1 to 16:1 compression. On E85 13:1 with iron heads, 8:1 AFR, and a 220F operating temp is a very happy street engine. The short block on my stand will be around 10.7:1 with the 87cc aluminum heads I am putting on it, that would work with 92 pump gas, but it should be lots of fun with 10 to 20 psi thrown down its throat on vodka. More fun than any chassis I currently have can handle. I might need a really heavy truck to throw it in.. Not. I think the Opel GT and around 2200lbs would be perfect for it.
@fredpierce9363
@fredpierce9363 Год назад
I don't use ethanol gas on cars that I store over the winter. It does carry water and can rust the steel gas tanks of classic cars.
@Wadley225
@Wadley225 Год назад
It would be better and easier to use a jug that is tapered at the bottom and has a drain valve. Then you can more easily get the water out completely.
@divyfiggs7900
@divyfiggs7900 Год назад
Something like a 2L separatory funnel
@skyraider2021
@skyraider2021 Год назад
Something like a Mr. Funnel!!!!!!!
@jimbefit3073
@jimbefit3073 Год назад
Just TILT THE JAR. all the water will settle and you'll have a SMALL POCKET of water left at the end of your siphoning. Won't waste gas. (Throwing the gas out with the water.😅)
@joesinakandid528
@joesinakandid528 2 месяца назад
@@skyraider2021 Yep - my choice.
@moncorp1
@moncorp1 Год назад
OR you can just go to a station that has ethanol free gas. Starting to be more and more of those popping up.
@davelewis2174
@davelewis2174 2 года назад
Were lucky to have Ethanol free Boat Gas here runs about $1.00 a gallon more but my mower loves it
@JrGoonior
@JrGoonior 2 года назад
I have a BP near me that sells 90 Octane Ethanol-Free for about $1.00 more also. I've used it in my 08 300C and the car in my profile pic (79 Cordoba). They both love it!
@smiddywesson2703
@smiddywesson2703 Год назад
Here in Mississippi, regular 87 octane is sold for $3.00 per gallon. The ethanol free gas is $3.30 per gallon (actually, these numbers have gone a little higher recently). So you can pay a 10% premium to keep that ethanol out of your gas, or lose 10% by removing 10% of your purchase when you remove the ethanol and throw it away. At least here, the smart move is to pay the premium and save the labor of removing the ethanol, unless of course, you have some use for water infused ethanol.
@tacticalcenter8658
@tacticalcenter8658 Год назад
Your probably still getting 5% ethanol and not even realizing it.
@jimibmore
@jimibmore 10 месяцев назад
@@tacticalcenter8658 nope
@im-that-guy-pal
@im-that-guy-pal 7 месяцев назад
​@jimibmore unless you are using a laboratory to extract the ethonal you are not going to get 100% free ethonal. It's just not gonna happen without sacrificing some of the fuel.
@duccanard9079
@duccanard9079 2 года назад
I've been using a 30 gal. barrel(clear?)to get rid of ethanol for a long time.Ethanol will destroy my fiberglass saddle tanks on my bumpsides(3).When taking my trans-Texas jaunts,I put 5 gals. of Avgas and a squirt of 2-stroke lube to get my mileage back up.Of course,funding 60-80 gallons of pushwater is getting harder on a pension.
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz 2 года назад
I've made Coleman fuel from gasoline using heat to evaporate the lightest elements of the gasoline from the additives. Gas evaporates at a fairly low temperature. I used a cup warmer to do it to avoid flame and auto-combustion.
@elgringoec
@elgringoec Год назад
There's something new to me and I've been around a good bit! Thanks Andy. Luckily I got an ethanol -free station in the nearest town but this is very interesting and for me a useful thing to know. Three cheers!
@RioSul50
@RioSul50 Год назад
Since the ethanol acts as the antiknock agent do you add other antiknock components? In the 1970's I worked for Ethyl Corporaton and at our site we made Tetra Ethyl Lead and Tetra Methyl Lead for gasoline.
@NN-sj9fg
@NN-sj9fg Год назад
Have been removing ethanol for all my power equipment for over 2 years. Pure gasoline will absorb 120 PPM (Parts Per Million) of water. Because ethanol is hygroscopic (absorbing moisture from the air), gasoline with 10% ethanol will absorb 7,000 PPM of water. If left to stand, this is the cause of "bad gas". As an aside, fuel used in non-jet aircraft engines is ethanol free - you would not want your carburetor to freeze up in flight.
@codyhatch4607
@codyhatch4607 2 года назад
It takes more energy to produce the alcohol then you get out of it. We should be using the corn to feed people not burning it....just saying.
@Russeljfinch
@Russeljfinch 2 года назад
Your incorrect
@codyhatch4607
@codyhatch4607 2 года назад
@@Russeljfinch No I'm not.
@codyhatch4607
@codyhatch4607 2 года назад
@@Russeljfinch You loss about 55k btu's per gallon
@earlbrown
@earlbrown Год назад
Ethanol isn't made from corn for humans, it's made from feed corn that's slated for animals. After the ethanol process is over, the 'waste product' is called 'Dried Distillers Grains' (DDG's) and it's now a better feedstock than it started. Since the starches have been removed, it's now higher in protein, and it's worth more per bushel than it started.
@peterolson8350
@peterolson8350 2 года назад
What happens to the octane number when you do that? It is quite common to mix in 20-30% ethanol (E85) in regular petrol, to raise the octane number here in Sweden.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
it lowers the octane of the Gasoline.. It can vary based on the % of Ethanol used. Thanks for watching Peter, Andy
@grizzkid795
@grizzkid795 11 месяцев назад
Everyone recommends a different amount of water added- everything from 2 oz per gallon up to a quart that you use here. I think about one cup per gallon is enough.
@kurtlanford1448
@kurtlanford1448 Год назад
It’s such a shame that our government did this to us! Corn is food , not fuel !
@johnshackelford6965
@johnshackelford6965 Год назад
Andy I drained my gas and used blocks. The neighbors came when I put it in BBQ.
@Ottbucket
@Ottbucket Год назад
Chemical Engineer here. Yup, this'll work. Like the Comments say... some things you can do to help recovery. But, the science works.
@DragBoss351Cleveland
@DragBoss351Cleveland 2 года назад
Now you need to make moonshine Andy, interesting vid.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
😂 Thanks brother!
@DragBoss351Cleveland
@DragBoss351Cleveland 2 года назад
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage your most welcome.🤣
@markeasterwood1187
@markeasterwood1187 Год назад
There seems to be some unnecessary wastage in your process. When you're done with the siphoning of the separated layers, what you had on top in your gallon jug is wasted gasoline, not ethanol. Ethanol and water do not separate. I think you would have been better off to siphon off the gas on the top layer to somewhere near the water/ethanol layer.
@lisamitchell1355
@lisamitchell1355 Год назад
We ran a Texaco station in the early days and the fuel was the best there was, our Skycheif was 104😮 octane and no ethanol, no corn , no fumes, just straight up gas that was clear like water, you could even burn it in your gas lanterns
@davezemba9109
@davezemba9109 3 месяца назад
White gas ?
@sambrannan7550
@sambrannan7550 Год назад
Pretty cool. All I have is a lawn mower and I know just how much fuel it takes to mow my lawn. I run E85 and just let it run out of fuel when I am finished.
@jeffh4505
@jeffh4505 Год назад
Do you mean E10? You should not be running E85 in a mower.
@AdamSmith-gs2dv
@AdamSmith-gs2dv 2 года назад
Thank goodness we have a Bucees, they sell 87 E0 for a very reasonable price (10 cents more than 87 E10)
@unclesquirrel6951
@unclesquirrel6951 2 года назад
Personally I blame squirrels
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
Me too...
@commoncentsamerican
@commoncentsamerican Год назад
Incredibly dangerous not necessary thing to do in the first place.
@matthewmiller6418
@matthewmiller6418 Год назад
I personally wish they go back to regular and unleaded
@down2earth838
@down2earth838 Год назад
You never want to run chainsaws on anything less then 90 octane. Unless of coarse you don’t care about fixing them all the time. 😂
@peppergrowmienola4850
@peppergrowmienola4850 2 года назад
Pretty cool but it seems to me that it would be easier to pull the gas off the top than the water from the bottom.... Otherwise good info for sure.
@crazycoffee
@crazycoffee 2 года назад
More and more I'm needing to make a biodiesel stille
@jeffnwv3976
@jeffnwv3976 Год назад
So what happens to the ethanol? How do you get rid of it? Is there a use for it?
@elektro3000
@elektro3000 6 месяцев назад
Why not just dose the E10 gasoline with StaBil and avoid the problem in the first place?
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, I havent seen one out in the wild yet either. That will change soon enough, stay tuned Andy
@jims2286
@jims2286 6 месяцев назад
Very ingenious like it. I hope you and maybe David Vizard could show use how to make your own octane booster
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 6 месяцев назад
We might just do that.. Andy
@dr.froghopper6711
@dr.froghopper6711 Год назад
What you need is a chemistry set separation funnel. You can bleed off liquids out the bottom of the separation funnel with much better precision and save yourself some gasoline.
@2000freefuel
@2000freefuel Год назад
So what your telling us is you need to start with a higher grade of Gasoline and expect it to drop a few numbers in the final product. if it's really an issue you can add some Toluene to bump the octane figure up a touch.
@zerolabs
@zerolabs Год назад
A) 15 minutes is *NOT NEARLY* long enough to settle out all the suspended ethanol/water mix. Give it 24. Must be clear. B) Starting with 87 octane is a *BAD IDEA!* Results in ~82 octane = predetonation = connecting rods through the crankcase. Start with 92-93 octane premium. End with 87-88 octane ethanol free.
@MrBlackbutang
@MrBlackbutang 2 года назад
Tax free booze ! Absolutely 2 parts for me 1 for the car. The dryer beads is what you 💲 when separating water from alcohol.
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 Год назад
90 Octane alcohol free is available at the pump near me, I only use it in my two stokes, and fill up with it for storage over the winter. Cool vid tho.
@thebegrsshow
@thebegrsshow 2 года назад
I absolutely HATE my lawnmower, but I still wouldn't put 87 octane in it. All my gas equipment gets 100 LL aviation fuel.
@robertelmo7736
@robertelmo7736 2 года назад
You are a crazy guy lol...any commercial lawnmower will run fine with 87...
@MrTheHillfolk
@MrTheHillfolk 2 года назад
We use the wing samples saved in a can for the mower. But that's all they really need is 87,compression is so low enough and all that ,and they design them to basically run on any low octane swill. Since "we" are lucky with "free" 100 low lead I'll use it. But using 93 in a mower is a waste of money and makes the ethanol problem worse than 87.
@myleftthumb2294
@myleftthumb2294 2 года назад
Buy a Honda. Mine still starts with one pull after several years. And I only need about three pulls even after storing it with old fuel in it over the winter.
@gearbanger57
@gearbanger57 2 года назад
@@myleftthumb2294 Mines a one pull as long as I shake the mower first, if not it's 3 or 4 pulls. Only thing I can figure is the fuel is separating in the carb. I run everything that's going to set for a while out of fuel anymore.
@RandomGuy010
@RandomGuy010 Год назад
Here in Norway we only get E10 and 98 Octane. Once they discontinue the 98 I guess I'm gonna have to create a facility for streamlining this process.
@magoolew5131
@magoolew5131 Год назад
You can also buy a separatory funnel and stand and do it a lot easier. You would just drain the water and ethanol out of the bottom. Also, letting it sit longer would result in better results as far as the gasoline is concerned.
@mikebutler6022
@mikebutler6022 Год назад
I have an aviation water filter and ethanol molecules are smaller than water, stays on top. passes straight through the filter
@danielr.schafer9504
@danielr.schafer9504 Год назад
I do the same thing with my old mower gas, no matter what you do it gets water in it! Put the gas in a large clear bottle like a dish soap bottle key part here is the valve, add gas and water shake let separation happen turn bottle over and open valve top squeeze out water… your done, put the rest in your tank! You could just decant your mix like wine but you may get some water in your tank, if your not very careful. Dont worry about octane its a mower after all.
@Channelscruf
@Channelscruf 2 года назад
I am what is commonly known in some circles as first.
@dandahermitseals5582
@dandahermitseals5582 4 месяца назад
That's serious Kool.😂😂😅
@jamesroberts807
@jamesroberts807 2 года назад
Great video, I thought you was going to use crude oil to make it 😆 🤣 😂 lol
@Jerry-ko9pi
@Jerry-ko9pi Год назад
If you get a container that has a drain, you can just drain out the water.
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 Год назад
Funny, I was just thinking of trying non ethanol gas for my 408 ci Nova (plus octane booster). Pretty slick Andy, pretty slick!
@chuckredd9131
@chuckredd9131 Год назад
Go to your LITTLE airport and buy the 100 avgas, won't go bad. (We still have our '69 Nova wife bought before we were married, my '35 Buick, '57 & '59 Chev pickup, one with the big window in rear.)
@kimmorrison9169
@kimmorrison9169 Год назад
@@chuckredd9131 used 100LL for years then the local airport kicked me out for loaden up my 5 gal cans! It was $7.31 per gallon at the time.
@billortloff4215
@billortloff4215 Год назад
If you voted correctly and lived in a conservative state. We sell ethanol free gas.
@LisaAnn777
@LisaAnn777 3 месяца назад
I would love to vote conservative, I want to conserve our Republic, unfortunately the "Republicans" now are just trying to push their Theocracy and do away with our liberties and install their ancient middle eastern Abrahamic beliefs instead. They are just as (if not more) screwed up as the current so called "liberal" party (who is actually authoritarians masquerading as supporters of liberty) Stop with this bipartisan tribalistic mentality. We need change far beyond some party winning an election.
@randolphsnyder1505
@randolphsnyder1505 Год назад
So ,do you have a creative use for the ethanol, looks like it would be easy enough to siphon it off.
@plips71755
@plips71755 Год назад
I knew I shouldn’t have skipped those classes.
@salvadormonella8953
@salvadormonella8953 Год назад
AWESOME!!! Somebody needs to make an automated gizmo to do that. They'd sell a bunch to the automotive scene. Ethanol is the scourge of performance cars everywhere.
@rawister
@rawister Год назад
Why not just go to the pump marked non ethanol & pump that?
@salvadormonella8953
@salvadormonella8953 Год назад
@@rawister Some places mandate ethanol be added to gasoline with no consumer choice possible.
@firstielasty1162
@firstielasty1162 Год назад
Ethanol is not just soluble in water, it is miscible, so mixes completely at any ratio...so I think the layer in the milk jug at the end is some gas, rather than ethanol. It wouldn't mix just long enough to transfer out of the gas can, then suddenly divide into separate phases just because it's in a different container. I use avgas in mowers for the last mow of the season, not because it is 100 octane, but because of its storage properties, it will store a long time. Even when very old, it doesn't form varnish, just blue goo that easily dissolves in more gas. This works much better than gas stabilizers, which I don't think much of. The 100 octane is unnecessary but harmless. You might expect harder starting due to its slightly lower volatility, but I haven't noticed, even in snowblowers here in PA winters. I just mention the avgas because ethanol makes unused carbs dirty even faster than auto gas did before ethanol was added, which was bad enough!
@tinof5829
@tinof5829 Год назад
Yes. I have used avgas since I was able to get it from a local airport in the mid 70's. I use it in all my small engines as well.
@foxmulder7616
@foxmulder7616 Год назад
Wht about ina jeep/truck ? Would higher octane be harmful??
@mikebutler6022
@mikebutler6022 Год назад
Not sure about US 100 av gas but in Canada it has way too much lead in it for small 4stroke engines. causes valve and plug issues over time,, same as it does in piston aircraft engines. All our fuel sucks these days.
@firstielasty1162
@firstielasty1162 Год назад
I agree with you on the lead...I wish I could get the exact qualities of avgas, especially its stability in storage, without the lead. I haven't had lead fouling issues, but most of the engines I use it in don't get all that much use. Thus the need for Long lasting avgas. But the lead fouling is a possibility. Plus it's toxicity isn't a great quality, but I'm ok with minimizing my exposure to it. Most modern motor oils lack additives to disperse the crap that leaks by the rings, so that is a possible problem, too, but I haven't noticed it. Any 4 stroke I use it in gets frequent oil changes.
@TonysHotRodGarage
@TonysHotRodGarage 2 года назад
Good stuff Andy. Pretty cool😎
@dickbutt7854
@dickbutt7854 Год назад
"I'm gonna show you how to do this." "Don't do this at home."
@oldSawyer
@oldSawyer Год назад
Ethanol has been used since the 1930s, when people actually paid MORE For it to get the Higher Octane Rating from it. As far as it being hygroscopic and drawing moisture out of the air, that is one of the biggest LIES floating around out there. MAYBE if you had a 5 gallon bucket of Ethanol setting out on a Foggy Night with No Lid on it, it MIGHT draw a few Teaspoons of water over night, but Breathing in & out through the Tiny Vent Tube in a Sealed Gas Tank, It's NOT Going to Happen even after several Years. I proved That Myself with my 1937 Ford Truck that sat for 14 years in a damp shed (water running through it every time it rained, and condensation dripping from the roof) with a broken set of points in the distributor. It sat there in those damp conditions all those years with a quarter to maybe 1/3rd tank of a mixture of E10 & E25 and when I finally got around to rebuilding the distributor and getting it running again, there wasn't even a Trace of Water in the sediment bowl on the fuel pump. Plain and Simple, it DOES NOT Draw Moisture out of the air, though it DOES ABSORB Water that inadvertently gets mixed in. www.theautochannel.com/news/2016/03/18/209988-ethanol-does-not-suck-water-out-air.html IF you are finding water in your fuel, it is likely because it was already there When You Bought The Gas which has been an On-Going Problem for as long as there have been Gas Stations, especially those in Low-Lying Areas where it's easier for Run-Off to get into the underground storage tanks. This Has Happened for as long as I can remember (early/mid 1970s) and longer (if you ask your older relatives) with gas stations having to pay for engine repairs on customers cars that filled up on water and damaged their engines, along with getting their tanks pumped out and refilled with fresh fuel. As Ethanol DOES Absorb Water, (think of the bottles of HEET you purposely poured in your tank to soak up the water and thaw out frozen fuel lines with Regular gas) which basically just Buys More Time for those stations in Low Lying Areas as it can absorb up to (I believe it is around) 5-6% water by volume before Phase Separating and dumping the water to the bottom of the tank where it causes the Exact Same Problems it did with Regular Gas. THAT would be roughly 1200 Gallons of Water in a 20,000 Gallon underground tank, meaning the stations that were notorious for being shut down due to water in the tanks can now go Months or Years Longer selling Watered-Down Ethanol that is constantly being refreshed every time THEY Fill up, until they get caught in a Flood Situation where they get More Water than what the Ethanol can Absorb. As for Separating Your Own Fuel to be "Ethanol-Free", Why Would You Want to LOWER The Octane Rating, and/or Pay Extra for Higher Octane Fuel just to get a Usable Octane after you separate out the alcohol . That's just Throwing Money Away to get rid of something you Used to Pay Extra For to the tune of $2.00 - $3.00 Per 12 Ounce Bottle of HEET.
@67robb
@67robb Год назад
What happens with all the waste mixture?
@johnschmitt7452
@johnschmitt7452 Год назад
Just do that 9 more times and you have a full tank
@gerarddugas6224
@gerarddugas6224 Месяц назад
I run all engines on e85. Lawn mower, snowblower, chainsaw, generator, my regular truck and car. Cold weather starting requires more gasoline mixed in. 15 years and no issues.❤
@haydenc2742
@haydenc2742 Год назад
I always just mix about 2oz (1/4 cup) of marvels mystery oil in my small engine gasoline...seems to do the trick (and stabilizes the fuel for storage) and does well at lubricating the upper end too
@benjamincresswell3713
@benjamincresswell3713 4 месяца назад
Don't try to store it. You have removed most of the corrosion inhibitor, detergent, binding agents, antioxidants, stabilizers and more. Burn it all up quickly and run your fuel system dry when you're done. NOTE; If yoor that hellbent on worrying about alcohol gas just buy equipment that can handle it. Go Old School Carburetion w/ adjustable fuel mixture screws or jets and learn to tune.
@LifesAbe-ach
@LifesAbe-ach Год назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂 buying and loosing 15% of what you purchased when premium fuel without the ethanol issues is cheaper 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 .
@johnstipic1628
@johnstipic1628 5 месяцев назад
I noticed your Reher-Morrison shirt... I recall and still have a picture of Lee Shepherd and me standing next to his Pro-Stock Camaro with PRO 1 on the windshield.. I'm standing on the shotgun side and Lee on the driver's side.. Looks like we both just got out of the car.
@BomBoo-rn8gj
@BomBoo-rn8gj 3 месяца назад
What is the rag on ethanol? It's just an octane booster. Many drag racers use ethanol-based fuels. The Efree gas just uses another chemical mix to raise the octane. Granted it's not good if not used within 3 months or so as it absorbs water from the atmosphere, but it's just fine for daily drivers. I do use it for all my power tools, '53 Ford and boat. But Efree adds very little for most users.
@theoriginalmungaman
@theoriginalmungaman Год назад
Heres your huge mistake! The 87 octane was achieved by adding ethanol. If you remove the ethanol you have reduced the octane to the point that the fuel is useless! Back to chemistry school for you!
@J.R.F.23
@J.R.F.23 11 месяцев назад
I just removed the ethanol from 16 gallons of gasoline ⛽️; and stabilized it with STA-BIL 360, SeaFoam and a little Red HEET. This should get me through the winter… in the spring… what ever is left will go In my car… and I will start again… ⛽️
@Old_Fart_Pushing_a_cart
@Old_Fart_Pushing_a_cart Год назад
Add a tap to the bottom of the vessel (Separator)with a valve that way you can drain out the water/alcohol mix without all this siphon mess. As a side note add some acetone to reduce the chance of engine knock.
@stevevandergriend6189
@stevevandergriend6189 2 года назад
That is not pure gas. Depending on the amount of aromatics in the gas, it still holds water. If you had 100 percent phase separation, both mixtures would be a lot clearer then what you show.
@Nobamaable
@Nobamaable Год назад
Your exactly right... I did fuel samples on aircraft for 14 years, and that jug he showed still has entrained water in it after he drained it off.
@stevevandergriend6189
@stevevandergriend6189 Год назад
@@Nobamaable In colder temperatures, there will be water collecting at the bottom. Certainly just as much bad info on the net about ethanol as there is correct or useful information.
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 2 года назад
Very nice science experiment Andy. Pretty cool. Thank you. Take care, Ed.
@UnityMotorSportsGarage
@UnityMotorSportsGarage 2 года назад
Thanks Ed! I'm glad you liked it.. Andy
@davidparker9676
@davidparker9676 Год назад
What do you do with the water/ethanol waste?
@tonycolca2241
@tonycolca2241 Год назад
Why do you want to take the ethanol out by doing so you are lowering the octane I have a lot of yard machines 2 walk behind self propelled mowers I riding mower a mc lane edger approx 50 years old 2 stroke weed eater and leaf blower I live in oklahoma all we have is 91 octane we do have ethanol free gasoline but I don't use it I use e 10 91 octane in earthing for my 4 stroke engines I mix 1 Oz of marvel mystery oil per gallon I also use steel safety cans this is important because they keep the atmosphere out. I NEVER HAVE ANY FUEL RELATED PROBLEMS.
@ristainoj
@ristainoj Год назад
Taking out the Ethanol ..also takes out the OCTANE. For small engines ...maybe OK..maybe not.... For cars...this is a big sin it seems, ,,.especially older cars....with higher compression. This video is ill conceived and leaves out this important issue of octane,. ..,which is why the 10% Ehtanol is in the gas to begin with. Better solution is to add water mixer..ie...stable....so the water is mixed..and does not separate out....rather than kill your octane . ..and paying full price for it, ..doing a lot of work to create a lot of detonation. ???
@ericdolby1622
@ericdolby1622 Год назад
I don't find ethanol in gas to be a bad thing unless you let it sit for a long time. Course that doesn't happen in Florida when you have to mow every
@mikejohnson9118
@mikejohnson9118 Год назад
1 So the price of the gas increased by 10%-ish (~10% loss) + your time. 2 How much you reckon the octane is lowered? 87>>85..84? 3 Have you captured the "ethanol" mix. Alcohol has alot of uses. Burning, cleaning, deicing. 4 Basic use for low compression engines. Due to lowered octane. Cheers
@prawny12009
@prawny12009 21 день назад
Proof i guess would be to check the specific gravity of the water before and after to see how much ethanol is present.
@jeffwilliams8277
@jeffwilliams8277 Год назад
If you let it sit longer the gas will become clear. I have been doing this for years at the dealership when cars come in with contaminated fuel. It takes several hours but the will be clear. Then I run it truck.
@HiTechDiver
@HiTechDiver Год назад
If done on a regular basis, it would behoove one to have a container with a quarter turn spout at the very bottom; much easier to drain than siphon.
@onebradh
@onebradh Год назад
So when i fill up at gas station how are they getting just 10% ethanol from tank in the ground? You think it would separate like in your jar in the ground. Hmm
@8SecSleeper
@8SecSleeper Год назад
Didn't come on the scene in 2008, it was widely used in the 90s. My friends dad is the one who developed it and was using it for racing. He passed away in February. He had a full size lab in his garage to make it at home still as a hobby. But he spent over 30 years of his life running and setting up production plants to make ethanol.
@smiddywesson2703
@smiddywesson2703 Год назад
Making ethanol in a garage is a fire hazard. Making it in an attached garage is suicide.
@BillO964
@BillO964 4 месяца назад
Or maybe just go up the road and buy 5 gallons of non ethanol gasoline at a gas station. Probably cheaper in the long run. Just because you can do something does not make it the best option. You kill what little octane you have the way you are doing it. Most commercial ethanol free gas has at least 90 octane.
@bultacowally
@bultacowally Год назад
So what do you do with all the bad water you contaminated??? Dump it out back in the creek or down the storm drain I would suspect. NICE! Considering you can buy non ethanol gas for small engines at auto parts stores, Tractor Supply, most outdoor equipment dealers, and more and more gas stations are now selling it, why would you do this neanderthal method? You need higher octane? You can buy race gas online in any configuration you could want...leaded, unleaded, with or without ethanol, E85, ultra high octane. Name your poison. Be ready to pay though that is the price you pay for something special. You make your own gas this way you are asking for trouble.
@muffs55mercury61
@muffs55mercury61 Год назад
I'm lucky I live in Arkansas and non ethanol is everywhere both here and in Oklahoma but if I go to Arizona there's almost none west of Amarillo until Holbrook, AZ (about 550 miles) and none at all in Phoenix. Of course there's no way to do this on the road but I'll remember this if it pure gas becomes not available anymore. I have two old cars and a riding lawnmower.
@LClaypool
@LClaypool Год назад
I just use Startron or another enzyme bio catalyst. It's like 8 bucks and treats 80 gallons. Then bump up octane with toluene or other organic solvent. No judgment, i like the science, but mixing gas like that is one spark away from a horrible death.
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