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How to sync using MIDI Sync or Trigger Sync? 

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How to sync using MIDI sync or Trigger Sync? What is MIDI Sync? What is trigger Sync? MIDI sync versus Trigger Sync? How does Sync works?
I have seen so many question online about how to sync 2 music devices that i decided to make a video about it. Sync is hard, Sync is complex. In this video I try to simplified the concepts of sync to the most useful info so you can configure your setup.
This was triggered by a question I got last week " How can I sync My Korg Volca Beats to a Roland Boutique Se-02 and have the Volca control the sync?" .
Here is your answer.
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@gerryk9
@gerryk9 3 года назад
thanks very much. you have made the BEST video to explain sync in/out vs MIDI, and what MIDI is.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 3 года назад
Thanks a lot!
@Vaforadeicoioni
@Vaforadeicoioni Год назад
I agree. Am a beginner, and this was very clear.
@7Spronge
@7Spronge 3 года назад
Threw all my devices in the lake ... they're syncing perfectly now.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 3 года назад
Lol. I’m guessing my accent is causing this.
@7Spronge
@7Spronge 3 года назад
@@Nu-trix haha , not really, your accent is just fine, both words just sound the same. And thanx for the useful video.
@blockerdaniel7887
@blockerdaniel7887 6 месяцев назад
Threw mine into a sink. They're not syncing. Gotta try the river next
@cablenorth3297
@cablenorth3297 Год назад
As soon as I watched this video I was able to sync my deluge with my microfreak knowing absolutely nothing about midi or clock sync. Thank you so much.
@akrobatish
@akrobatish Год назад
calm, articulate and no BS. I love it. Glad to have found you good sir!
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
Thanks
@sepehr.rezaei
@sepehr.rezaei Год назад
Thank you . Video was the best source on internet
@claudioguendelman
@claudioguendelman 2 года назад
Thanks from Chile well explained... Thanks thanks thanks...
@jmcbeady8210
@jmcbeady8210 9 месяцев назад
Great teaching episode.
@philmarchisotta
@philmarchisotta Год назад
Dude thanks a lot. This answers all my questions. It was like being in a class. Keep up the great work
@yangzhao7908
@yangzhao7908 Год назад
Perfect explanation and demonstration. Really appreciate it!
@rajeevsiriwardena3936
@rajeevsiriwardena3936 3 года назад
The best video which describes on MIDI syncing , very technical , thanks friend !
@aaronthompson317
@aaronthompson317 2 года назад
Well put and properly succinct. I am presently trying to rearrange my small “studio” incorporating a couple new devices and this is certainly helpful. From my ‘beginners mind’. Thank You Sir!
@Redefine01
@Redefine01 2 года назад
Great description, while I certainly understood what Sync and Midi are I did not know that the definition of Sync - changed from device to device. This explains the oddities I ran across in trying to get Roland to sync with non Roland devices.
@matheusstefanello859
@matheusstefanello859 2 года назад
thank you very muchhh!! been struggling with that same problem with a behringer td3. i’m a complete beginner and i don’t even now how to google the problems i got 😂. thought i was doing something wrong, thanks again
@simonbaker4834
@simonbaker4834 Год назад
Explained a lot. Thanks.
@MaxParkerMusic
@MaxParkerMusic Год назад
Sooo helpful. Just got a boutique JU and want to pair it with a volca eventually. This video confirmed that 1. I can do that and 2. How. Really appreciate it
@farfisa5
@farfisa5 4 года назад
This is wonderfully coherent and concise. The explanation of the ability of MIDI cables versus analog sync cables was unexpected and definitely appreciated. Thank you for this video.
@jaunejaune
@jaunejaune 3 года назад
You can actually mod every Volca to add MIDI OUT. Korg did put the chip for OUT but not the connect haha (there is many tutorials). I did the mod for the volca Beat (you can also put very easily an Out for every Drum sounds ) and the volca Bass (which is amazing because it become a 3 sequencer in One machine !!)
@Decoy303
@Decoy303 Год назад
Sucks for people like me who have no knowledge of doing modifications let alone tools. Wish they offered a place that you could ship your Volcas to for v these modifications.
@jaunejaune
@jaunejaune Год назад
@@Decoy303 I learn by wathing tutorials ! it's pretty easy actually
@andychase5213
@andychase5213 4 года назад
Thanks for that, without doubt the most useful informative video I've seen on this subject. I have synths and drum machines from, Moog, Korg and Arturia and it seems that you are expected to just know how to make them play nicely together ! Great video.
@svf1972
@svf1972 2 года назад
Great explanation, best I’ve found on RU-vid. Thanks for doing this.
@jonathanyoung6397
@jonathanyoung6397 3 года назад
Damn. Now i understand this. Thank you so much! Subbed... More on Midi please!
@kalpeshkpanchal
@kalpeshkpanchal 4 месяца назад
Hi, so so so helpful video. Great explanation. You have got a new subscriber.
@kalpeshkpanchal
@kalpeshkpanchal 4 месяца назад
So in short, volca cannot be set as master when trying to connect and sync with Roland boutiques or Aira , correct?
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 4 месяца назад
@kalpeshkpanchal correct
@onmas59
@onmas59 9 месяцев назад
Great explanation thanks!
@mancavemusician
@mancavemusician 2 года назад
Thank you. I'm new to syncing devices and this really helped me to understand my setup. I'm fortunate in that I'm using an MS1, RD8 and TD3 so no cross platform issues as such but it really helped me to understand why 'position' data isn't passed on on start / stop.
@uriel-heavensguardian8949
@uriel-heavensguardian8949 2 года назад
Awesome video!!! Thanks for the information!!!!!! Trying to go deeper into midi and this info is so detailed!!
@rainerd9890
@rainerd9890 4 года назад
thanks for the coherent presentation on sync!
@philipsheard624
@philipsheard624 2 года назад
Extremely useful thank you. Currently researching as I am a novice trying to sync up a Korg Monologue XD, Roland TR-8s and a EricaSynth Bassline DB-01.
@nervewar7738
@nervewar7738 5 лет назад
Thanks for this. It seems like something should be so easy and straightforward but it's not, haha. Appreciate it!
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
Sync is one of the most difficult thing to get working. Basically trying to get different devices and software from different brands created by different engineer for different user with different workflow. And in this video I only talked about music sync. Wait until you try to sync MIDI Sync, analog sync, S.M.P.T.E LTC, S.M.P.T.E. VTC, the multitude versions of Wordclork or even Black burst House sync! Now THAT is a real Nightmare! ;-)
@cablenorth3297
@cablenorth3297 Год назад
Such high quality thank you
@immerwiedersonntags5744
@immerwiedersonntags5744 Год назад
Nice. Thank you!
@ferrellms
@ferrellms 4 года назад
Clear and concise - answered my questions.
@campoacceso6892
@campoacceso6892 4 года назад
Perfect and clear, thank you from Italy. (I have an sh01-a and volca beats, and Now i know how to NOT use them. I'm sad)
@emreacikgoz8418
@emreacikgoz8418 Год назад
That's what I was looking for. You are the king!
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
Happy to be helpful
@gerryk9
@gerryk9 2 года назад
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!
@LjClock
@LjClock 3 года назад
.. this video was super helpful! i have a korg, and Roland 88, and have been trying to figure this all out, thank you for explaining this.
@jonathanallende9739
@jonathanallende9739 Год назад
This is exactly what i needed to know! 🙏 Thank you!
@jcjrock
@jcjrock 2 года назад
Good example. Love your videos
@SouthShoreSonics
@SouthShoreSonics 2 года назад
Great info.
@zhipengyi5128
@zhipengyi5128 Год назад
thanks, very helpful
@flix3o3
@flix3o3 Год назад
Very well explained! 👍
@RaquelFoster
@RaquelFoster Год назад
To be specific, Volcas and Pocket Operators run at 2 PPQN (pulses per quarter note). Newer Volcas (2019+ like the Drum and Nubass) can be set to 4 PPQN in the global settings. Roland Boutiques run at 4 PPQN. If you hook them up to a 2 PPQN Volca they'll run at half speed. They also NEED a mono cable. They don't work at all if you use a stereo cable. Volcas work fine with stereo cables (tip = clock, ring = NC). The whole idea of using patch cables (1/4" or 3.5mm) for sync was a modular thing mostly intended to work with trigger outputs. So normally one pulse would be one step, and on a 16-step sequencer that's 4 pulses per quarter note. So it's odd that Volcas and POs use 2 PPQN. I can sync my JX-08 Boutique with a trigger out from my TR-606 going into EXT CLK IN, or with Volcas, or with my J-6. The Roland Aira Compact synths work fine with a stereo cable, and they let you set 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, 8, 12, or 24 PPQN in the settings. So you can use a them to double-clock or half-clock other things. For example, I can set my J-6 to 1 PPQN, then sync it with a PO-33 or Volca (2 PPQN) if I want the PO-33 / Volca to be clocked at half-speed and have 2-bar patterns. Some things use stereo sync cables and actually put a start/stop signal on the ring. I think the Behringer RD-8 and RD-9 are like that. They work fine with Volcas since the ring isn't connected anyway. And the RD-8 and RD-9 let you set a pretty wide range of PPQN clocks (not as many as the Roland Compacts, though). I actually never had any mono patch cables till I got the JX-08. I couldn't get it to sync with anything, but then I played with it with a multimeter trying to see what it was doing. It looks like the Boutiques detect that a patch cable is inserted the same way a Boss pedal detects that a cable is inserted - it grounds a circuit to the ring of a stereo input jack. EXT CLK IN has 3.3V on the ring. When you insert a mono cable, the jack's ring contact gets grounded to the sleeve. But if you insert a stereo cable it doesn't know because the ring/sleeve aren't connected.
@2009Tosh
@2009Tosh 2 года назад
Fantastic explanation....
@alanb5690
@alanb5690 2 года назад
Very good explanation...thank you!
@terrykorsmo3586
@terrykorsmo3586 10 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@earanwe
@earanwe 3 года назад
Thanx for the vid. I've my first rehearsal nest wednesday (Suán Trepia) and we're trying synching a Roland SP555 with my volca keys. Im so excited, as im asking my 'boss' for a year about going into analog synths for the band and this gonna be first time, but i was really lost into synching them!
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 3 года назад
Glad that it helped!
@earanwe
@earanwe 3 года назад
@@Nu-trix sadly rehearsal was posponed due to covid restrictions ¬¬ waiting for better times. The idea is on, tho . XXX
@Reeesegame
@Reeesegame 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the clear explanation. I finally understand how it works
@LegendPhase
@LegendPhase 2 года назад
Was really resourceful Video !
@kevinpackard3968
@kevinpackard3968 2 года назад
This is making sense now. I managed to sync an Atari 8-bit computer (master) running Midi Music System software with a PO-33 and/or an NTS-1. The Atari outputs 24 pulses per quarter note from pin 3 on joystick port 2. An Arduino is used to count the pulses from the Atari and then sends out a pulse every 12 pulses to the slave. Everything seems to stay in sync until I stop sending MIDI signals using the escape key.
@tsgodman4409
@tsgodman4409 4 года назад
You're the best Nu-Trix, this is a fantastic video, keep up the great work mate, thank you so much.
@perrypelican9476
@perrypelican9476 5 лет назад
I think native instruments is trying to standardize things. Great great video. You are doing a good thing by explaining things like you are. A lot of beginners never learn this stuff and end up frustrated after time because they think that after time they should beat a certain level, but of course they need basic knowledge that can be boring to learn. You are making it more fun. Don’t forget you are talking mostly to beginners so fun is important to keep their attention. Anyway, I am just throwing ideas at you. I am no expert. I am sitting in a breakfast place corner Cote Des Neiges and Cote st Catherine getting ideas. Have fun mr. nutrix.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
Thanks fellow Montrealer!
@geminielectro
@geminielectro Год назад
Thank you. That's very usefull. Soon, I'll have to sync a SH-01a, a Volca sample, and a Behringer TD-3. What a mess.... 😓
@chriscook2451
@chriscook2451 2 года назад
Great video, thanks NT!
@dirckxd
@dirckxd 5 лет назад
The gate out on the boutique is not a clock out like you mentioned. It seems so since the programmed sequence in your example consists of 16th notes, but if you had some tied notes or rests in the sequence, the 'clock' would hang or shift on those points.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
You are entirely right.
@harounsamadi2527
@harounsamadi2527 2 года назад
Many thanks ! Very helpfull 👍👍🙏
@ussrfeniks
@ussrfeniks 2 года назад
Thank Bro!
@JamesVytas
@JamesVytas Год назад
Very useful.
@KitCatStudio
@KitCatStudio 3 года назад
Very useful info! Tnx!
@StygianDogs
@StygianDogs 3 года назад
Thanks for this video! Super helpful!
@w33dOr
@w33dOr 3 года назад
Great work 👍
@brianmccarthy6655
@brianmccarthy6655 4 года назад
Very useful, thanks!
@tizzak7726
@tizzak7726 3 года назад
Thanks!
@TheOriginalEG
@TheOriginalEG 4 года назад
Thank you for this! This helped me so much! 👌
@seeditchmusic
@seeditchmusic Год назад
Much love Thank you 💐🌈❤️
@suomiperkele89
@suomiperkele89 4 года назад
Great video, really good explained. Thanks!!!
@rjadamz9117
@rjadamz9117 Год назад
Yes very thankful. Next question: WHAT IS MIDI thru?
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
I can make that !
@esssee5121
@esssee5121 4 года назад
Thank you, I needed this!
@andrewburns5697
@andrewburns5697 4 года назад
Thanks for the video. Clearly explained.
@Holiday_Ringo
@Holiday_Ringo 3 года назад
Ive been using a pocket operator to sync volca keys to a roland tr6s.
@synthlord2368
@synthlord2368 5 лет назад
Informative as always Nutrix. I got four of the Volcas when I first got into synths. I always wished they had made them with out and through patches for the midi cables. Alas, only the in line. There were some people back then modding them and selling them on Ebay. Haven't seen them in awhile though. I used to have one Volca with the midi line in from and RM1x and used the sync cables for the other 3. It worked but I always wanted more versatility. Ashame they didn't include more midi connections, but I guess they wanted to keep the price down. Still fun units for the price.
@Kim-on1ej
@Kim-on1ej 3 года назад
Thx
@swampdweller5
@swampdweller5 4 года назад
Thank you so much! Super helpful
@KurtLorenz
@KurtLorenz 8 месяцев назад
❤❤❤
@djsweatysac1842
@djsweatysac1842 3 года назад
thanks for the video - I find this to be an annoying part of my setup.
@midifilescom
@midifilescom 5 лет назад
merci !
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
Avec plaisir!
@Rafix-drummer
@Rafix-drummer Год назад
A question for the experts. *How do I connect devices with built-in sounds Directly to a control keyboard that has no sounds? *Which cables do I need? And what is the friend why? - I have: launchkey 25 mk Novation control keyboard and want to connect it for example: to CIRCUIT TRACKS. Or - for the Roland device / Roland Aira S-1 and use their sounds. Many thanks to the helpers.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
The easiest interconnection between devices is using MIDI cable (5pin DIN). Out of the controller in the sound generator. But today, not all device have MIDI in and out. Some only have usb. Than you need to got through a computer and assign the MIDI to a MIDI interface out or to a USB MIDI compatible hardware synth,
@BlakeDrummond
@BlakeDrummond 3 года назад
this is great- im having issues getting midi synch to work in logic...
@RzRipper
@RzRipper 4 года назад
Very interesting.
@oskie66skye
@oskie66skye 5 лет назад
THANKS A LOT,Sir Nu-Trix!
@lummoxcruxband4955
@lummoxcruxband4955 6 месяцев назад
I have been given a Yamaha CS2X synthesizer from the 90s and a Yamaha RX15 drum machine from the 80s and am curious about how they can sync with each other...what device can do what with the other?
@zazoomatt
@zazoomatt 4 года назад
So right Nu-Trix. Flux Capacitor's are a Triffle bit ouchy.........I hear You and thank YOU
@Zaleskee
@Zaleskee Год назад
WOW!, thank You for this Master Class, this video describes it all in detail and with such clarity!. Can you please recommend a sync device, I would like to synchronize My Cubase project running from a PC to a Protools session running from a Mac. I want to make Cubase the master and Pro Tools the slave. Essentially, I want to press play, stop, rewind, scrub left, right and have pro tools follow. The goal is to have Cubase (master) as my sequencer and pro tools (slave) to run video simultaneously. There is a device that does this exact thing but the price is $4,000. after this video I know that there is a better efficient cheaper way. Thank You for your suggestions and thank You for this amazing Video.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
I’ll try to answer in a video soon
@Zaleskee
@Zaleskee Год назад
thank you@@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
@@Zaleskee Can you tell me the Cubase and Protools versions you are using? Will Protools run video and audio while recording Cubase output? Cubase will playback music I’m guessing, right?
@Zaleskee
@Zaleskee Год назад
Hi @@Nu-trix , Absolutely, I am running Protools Studio on a M1 Mac Ultra and Cubase 12 on a 64 Core PC Threadripper Pro 256 RAM. Yes Protools will run Video and audio while recording Cubase output, and Cubase will play back the music.. Thank You for Your Time!!
@chrismartin6690
@chrismartin6690 3 года назад
Really useful. Learnt alot did not realise that diff Manufacturers mange sync differently.... I want to sink Roland FA06 to My TR-08.. But cant see the settings in the manual for the TR-08 , Please help Thanks..
@alainszyller615
@alainszyller615 Год назад
Thank you for this clear explanation. I have a specific question; how to MIDI synch Alesis SR18 with Korg SQ1 (Korg SQ1 doesn't show up the bpm)
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
I’ll do a video about specific sync setup. Including this one. I’m guessing you want the SR18 to be sync master and the SQ1 to follow.
@alainszyller615
@alainszyller615 Год назад
@@Nu-trix correct , thank you so much
@moonboy2022
@moonboy2022 3 года назад
To sync 3 devices would you do this... 'Clock Out -> Sync In -> Sync Out -> Sync In' and can I send midi to sync? Cheers for video is very helpful.
@Jdog6080
@Jdog6080 4 года назад
Hi I’m a beginner and I tried syncing my Moog Matriarch and Roland TR8S (I’ve tried Midi Out of the TR8S into the Midi In of the Matriarch but it’s not working)
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 4 года назад
Have you verified the internal setting a of both devices. The Tr-8s must be sending MIDI sync and the the MOOG must be in external sync (waiting for Sync)
@Jdog6080
@Jdog6080 4 года назад
Nu-Trix The Synth Guy I have all the settings where it should be but what’s weird is there is a light that indicates it’s syncing but when I fiddle with any of the delay or filter or press any keys of the Matriarch I only hear what’s coming out of the TR8S
@finonomastropiero4261
@finonomastropiero4261 2 года назад
Soberbio, hope you did figure Out
@RiccardoFranconi
@RiccardoFranconi 2 года назад
Nice video!!! I use tr-8s as master midi out go into midi in of a ju06a. Everythings works, but if during the playback I stop the sequencer from ju06a , when I restart the sequence is out of sync. Why? I didnt understand the reason. Thank yoy very much.
@frankramrath8433
@frankramrath8433 5 лет назад
Thank you. Much informative. I want to use an electribe to controll the 2 volcas and the microfreak (+ uno). So i think if i should use sync or better only midi.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
MIDI Sync is more complete
@carlosneira772
@carlosneira772 5 лет назад
Great stuff Nu-trix!!!....just for complete the information and for users knowledge...new volcas include an option to switch between Korg normal-by-default sync signal (one every 2 steps) and double-speed (once a step)...since the release of Volca Sample. Volca Beats, Volca Keys and Volca Bass don’t have this option.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
I did not know that Carlos. Great info. I just wish Korg would offer an update for the older Volcas.
@RLAYY
@RLAYY 5 месяцев назад
Hey professor how do i become a member? Stumbled upon your video just now. And i see you have some interesting content that may be of use for me. Pls lmk thx RL@Y
@IntangibleMan
@IntangibleMan 4 года назад
Informative video! I'm trying to sync up a Drumbrute Impact and a Behringer TD-3...I figured this would have me on my way, but I haven't figured it out yet...both have MIDI IN/OUT and sync, but I'm stumped... Edit: I figured it out! Got the midi control installed and the firmware update did the trick. This might be of interest to people in regard to compatibility issues with korg or other companies, the Drumbrute has different timing options available for Korg and anything else👍 What an awesome little drum machine.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 4 года назад
Thanks for the info!
@AntAciieed
@AntAciieed Год назад
Im a singer song writer getting into all of this and am sync illiterate, i would love to know how to bpm sync my Behringer TD3 with my Roland Verselab MV1 , obviously Roland wont be upfront helping me there
@sullycliftona
@sullycliftona Год назад
I find behringer stuff to work eextremlly easily, but its plastic and it breaks when dropped from 1cm
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix Год назад
That is one the reasons I don’t have any .
@kisho2679
@kisho2679 2 года назад
someone knows which modern alternatives exist to the "Redsound SoundBITE micro" to convert incoming audio to MIDI-clock, so to sync drum machines along with the playing audio (... and do live remixes during performance)?
@antigen4
@antigen4 5 лет назад
SMPTE is the standard for recording music
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
It all depends of the project. I guess I wasn’t enough clear in the video.
@Nu-trix
@Nu-trix 5 лет назад
SMPTE has no music information.
@Govwski
@Govwski Год назад
I'm chaining an mbase 01 into the kick of my mfb, mbase plays though speakers but when everything is run into ableton the kick of the mbase won't play though, when plugged out the kick from the mfb plays into ableton. any ideas on how to fix this?
@djkidbrooklyn
@djkidbrooklyn 3 года назад
Well I'm having trouble I have a Roland dj 202 and a kaossalater pro and hooked up a midi cable and it won't sync won't even acknowledge it
@TheGreatPanicker
@TheGreatPanicker 2 года назад
This is all new to me, but I have a volca bass I want to connect to my kaossilator pro and have them work together. How would I do that?
@projectb3117
@projectb3117 2 года назад
What device will be clocked with your daw when recording the seperate instruments?
@jonnysterling6917
@jonnysterling6917 4 года назад
Great video!
@dannydaniel8975
@dannydaniel8975 Год назад
How do I sync my 8 track cassette recorder to Cubase?
@manucontrovento
@manucontrovento 11 месяцев назад
Hi everyone. I humbly ask the community for help, since I've NEVER been able to sync two or more devices using mini jack sync. I've owned many, including korg volcas, Arturia keystep, etc. Now I've got some second-hand devices: korg Electribe 2 sampler, sonicware Liven LoFi-12, Liven XFM... I've tried a lot of times, since they all have the Sync In and Out ports, and I NEVER did it. I don't understand what is wrong: do I need specific mini jack for sync? Isn't a regular stereo mini jack fitting for this? How can I understand if polarity is right and/or how to set it correctly? Is there a complete guide to start with? Until now I connected the devices using the midi ports, but since I'd like to use them in some cases for other devices such as a midi keyboard, I'd like to set them free and start Syncing, at last. Thanks anyone for helping!
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