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How to tie a Palomar Knot for Fishing (and avoid mistakes most anglers make!) 

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With the double strand through the eye, learning how to tie a Palomar knot properly creates one of the strongest knots in fishing.
Tying it properly also helps that legendary strength stand up to more punishment than knots that only have a single strand of leader or fishing line passing through the eye.
So why don't more anglers tie on their flies using a Palomar knot? After all, it isn't much harder to tie than an overhand knot...
Probably a major reason is that the various diagrams and demos often miss out the important little moves that stop things getting tangled up with the fur and feathers of a fly. Also, as with any knot, knowing how to properly tighten down the Palomar knot without spoiling the construction of the knot - or damaging the line - are important details.
John Pearson uses this knot almost exclusively to attach the flies to his tippet and leaders. He also uses it in many other branches of fishing too.
It's an essential tool to have in your armoury - whatever brand of fishing you enjoy. Here, he demonstrates how to make sure you can even included it in your fly fishing.
Paul

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@deniseandmarkfirestine7443
@deniseandmarkfirestine7443 Год назад
The Palomar knot is the absolute best and strongest knot! I’ve fished all over and caught some big fish and never has the palomar knot failed me. I would never bet against the palomar knot!!
@russellevans5726
@russellevans5726 3 месяца назад
Great segment on knots as I have been away from fishing for over 12yrs this has brought me and refreshed my memory of knots back to me and give me confidence in my own knots
@neilmcghee1016
@neilmcghee1016 3 года назад
Well, I will definitely practice this over Christmas!
@AlawiAlAlawi
@AlawiAlAlawi 9 месяцев назад
I beg to differ with you because I wish for all of us to learn, picked up a suffix hard mono 0.35mm and did a test where I purposely made sure not to cut through the mono when tying the knot and dressed it beautifully like you did and it snapped 4/5 times against having the loop go over the hook and the whole knot making a fliiped figure 8, then slowly pulling down each line alone, first the mainline then pulling the tag end then moistening the knot before cinching it down. I appreciate your effort from 1 angler to another, but I am putting a prize of 100$ publically here for someone to prove to me that your way of having the loop between the knot and the hook is better than the gauranteed take it to the bank Palamor knot with the loop going over the hook and the knot then cinching it down.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 9 месяцев назад
That's really interesting and puzzling - because over half the time when John (in the video) deliberately pulls for a break in his palomar - tied as in the demo - the line actually snaps somewhere else than at the knot itself. Thanks for contributing to the discussion and sharing your findings (and for the prize money offer!). Paul
@steverpcb
@steverpcb Год назад
This is a great tip as when using it as part of a Rufus knot, it is the most difficult part to get right !
@patrickoleary6607
@patrickoleary6607 Год назад
The "Double Uni" real good knot.
@AfzaalWardag
@AfzaalWardag Месяц назад
I just started fishing Thanks for guide 👍
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Месяц назад
No problem 👍
@hereusethis
@hereusethis Год назад
Just started watching your videos. I'm loving them and loving your teaching vibe. Thanks!
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
Really glad you're finding them useful and thank you for letting me know that we're doing something right for you. Paul.
@markjoyce1720
@markjoyce1720 Год назад
just fantastic you present things very well and clearly thanks for taking the time and trouble to do these uploads.Much appreciated.
@120booker
@120booker 3 года назад
I love this knot. I lost a big fish when a "blood knot" failed on me, this one never has. Thanks for showing me a better way to do it
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 3 года назад
You're very welcome Andy and cheers for the positive feedback :) Paul
@paula.2422
@paula.2422 3 года назад
great detail 👏 thank you 😊
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 3 года назад
Cheers Paul!
@johnlieu
@johnlieu 2 года назад
Perfect tip! Thanks for the share.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
Glad it was helpful!
@dylansago7020
@dylansago7020 4 месяца назад
I was dragging logs in with this knot yesterday, line will break first for sure
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 4 месяца назад
Nice Dylan!
@ShorrockPaul
@ShorrockPaul Год назад
I am so confused about this simple knot.. a lot of people say under no circumstances pull it like you did, but rather after pulling hook through let the big loop come all the way over the TOP of the overhand knot. Ie let the loop lay along the main standing line above the overhand and then cinch it down so the big loop tightens down on top of the overhand.. then I see others cinch it up from below the overhand knots as you have done here...
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
All I can say is, doing it this way in tippet means that (as often as not) when you pull for a break, the tippet will snap somewhere else than the knot (in other words, the knot is no longer the weakest part of the line)
@xx_dominator_xx5815
@xx_dominator_xx5815 11 дней назад
I tested this vs a trilene the trilene was about the same strength but way more reliable and easier to tie
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 11 дней назад
Great - I'd always recommend the thing that works for you in the field and you can rely on. Sometimes dialling in a particular knot can help bring up its scores for "ease" and "reliability" too.
@xx_dominator_xx5815
@xx_dominator_xx5815 11 дней назад
@@FishingDiscoveries right i totally agree
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 Год назад
I’ve always been shown to let the loop slide DOWN the line, with the loop stopping at the top, not the bottom. Interesting.
@WizzdummHeadley
@WizzdummHeadley Год назад
I don't think it matters either way .
@dannow6674
@dannow6674 Год назад
The improved Palomar knot and the double uni knot are stronger. Another good one is the double pitzen.
@jelenagirdauskiene2300
@jelenagirdauskiene2300 Год назад
double uni knot is just sligtly stronger but it is very bulky knot ant only for thin lines
@jamescooper2618
@jamescooper2618 2 года назад
Palomar is a great knot. Try the Pitzen with doubled line. You may be surprised.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
Cool - I'll have to give it a go (a regular Pitzen is already one of my favourites!). Paul
@vernongilmore4632
@vernongilmore4632 2 года назад
Double san diagonal jamm knot
@Simoncorse
@Simoncorse 2 года назад
Super ! Merci
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
de rien! Paul
@theowenssailingdiary5239
@theowenssailingdiary5239 Год назад
I've done the test and double uni beats it.. On this planet anyway..
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
Fascinating. Just out of interest, when you tie just a Palomar and pull for a break, whereabouts is the line breaking?
@barut0ff474
@barut0ff474 2 года назад
Great knot but the Uni Knot is stronger
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
...not in my tests (by a long way) but that's why it's good to have different options to suit everyone's tying style.
@bluesetter4204
@bluesetter4204 2 года назад
Palomar is stronger by a long shot. That said, I tie uni knots most of the time and always double uni for attaching mono leaders to braid.
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 Год назад
@@bluesetter4204 palomar and fg are both better options.
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 Год назад
Double Uni is competitive, not so much a single uni. The Palomar will often NOT be the break point. No knot is stronger than that (though another may equal that).
@andreipetrescu603
@andreipetrescu603 Год назад
​@@bluesetter4204Double Uni trough the eye beats Palomar by a long shot in my test.
@alphabob12000
@alphabob12000 3 месяца назад
just do the knots
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 3 месяца назад
@@alphabob12000 And they say TikTok is ruining attention span 🤪😂
@burtonedwards2120
@burtonedwards2120 Год назад
Your explaining it far more complicated than necessarily. Put a loop through the eye of the hook, tie an overhand knot, snug the knot to the eye, slip the hook through the loop and draw it tight. Simple.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
If you tighten a Palomar knot as you describe (especially using fine tippet) you're almost certain to damage the line and lose a massive amount of the breaking strain. People experiencing knot failure as a result of following the steps you describe are the exact reason for making this video. If the line you're using is thick enough to not suffer any noticeable weakness, then keep doing what you're doing; for everyone else, the detail in the video might help diagnose the problem and give a solution.
@burtonedwards2120
@burtonedwards2120 Год назад
@@FishingDiscoveries Unfortunately, I don’t fly fish, I could never get the back of it. I am in the deep deep south of Louisiana and do a lot of catfishing and bass. So I don’t use a tippet, whatever that is?
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
@@burtonedwards2120 You're good to go then 😃
@AmyWinehouse.914
@AmyWinehouse.914 2 года назад
No so easy on a size 16.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
I'm curious as to how so AW? Unless you are using tippet that is so thick you can't thread it twice through the hook-eye...but then again, because you preserve more of the breaking strain of the tippet, so you can use thinner line for the same strength. Once threaded, it's actually easier to stroke all the parts of the knot forward over the hook when that hook is small - compared to a big hook (perhaps with a big fly dressed on it too). Paul
@Day12My
@Day12My Год назад
5:25....Double Pitzen is stronger. This test has been done! How much money have you lost in 2 years?
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
None so far, but would be very glad to in exchange for a stronger knot 😊
@Day12My
@Day12My Год назад
@@FishingDiscoveries ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OafzD5XjPGc.html
@basshunter8206
@basshunter8206 Год назад
Stop yaking and show the dang knot. I got tired of trying to understand half the stuff he said that didn't matter. Just tie the knot.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
The point of the video is to help make informed choices on which knot (and how to avoid pitfalls). There's a clue to that content where the thumbnail says "in depth analysis". Shorter vids of ours would probably include words like "fast demo" or similar for the quick-hit versions. On that theme, there are probably hundreds of "quick demo" videos for Palomar knots on RU-vid, so if you need to know how the basics of tying it (whether or not you know/think you should use it) - then one of those videos would probably help you out right now. On the other hand, if your Palomar fails on you, it might be worth digging in to some of those small details to see whether it's the knot itself or how you're tying it. Tight lines, Paul
@keithevans6631
@keithevans6631 Год назад
You tied the same loop that u said wasn't right...smh
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries Год назад
I'm struggling to understand why you're shaking your head Keith - Of course he tied the same loop (it's the same knot after all). The point is how to avoid spoiling your Palomar by tightening it incorrectly (and how stroking everything forward in front of the fly/hook solves that). Paul
@keithevans6631
@keithevans6631 Год назад
@@FishingDiscoveries o ok
@traumatose6003
@traumatose6003 2 года назад
That's not a Palomar knot. Why do folks try and overcomplicate things? Not sure what that mess was he ended up with. But it wasn't a Palomar knot.
@FishingDiscoveries
@FishingDiscoveries 2 года назад
I'm sorry to fact check the comment - but if your Palomar knot doesn't end up like the one in the video... it's not a Palomar knot. I'm also curious as to what is complex about tying an overhand knot in a loop of line and then putting the hook through the loop?
@bluesetter4204
@bluesetter4204 2 года назад
Sure is
@thedon9670
@thedon9670 Год назад
There's always some clown.
@Day12My
@Day12My Год назад
yea it is
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