How to tie ropes together for Rappel + Slings! 

John Coleman great Info thanks! Most knots typically decrease rope strength by half but you are still well with in the safety margins. 🤙🏻

The EDK takes twice the force to roll the next time, so if there is enough tail there is no problem.

Eric Moss yeah I did notice that in the editing lol i did say I was alittle out of it haha also to be honest I put the EDK with the short tail in the thumbnail too, to make it a bit more clickbaity for people that know knots lol good eye!

Wow I have actually never seen that one done. I’ll have to look into this one.

@@BetaClimbers Thanks! Would love to hear your thoughts after you're able to do some research

Yeah that is pretty standard. You just need to make sure you have a 6 in of tail

thesoundengine 😂

Yeah you can I have seen they done. People do get scared that something is going to get stuck in that new loop though. So prob should tie the knots close together.

I did that to make a friend feel a little better....I did say DEATH KNOT several times though...

Sounds like an adventure. Usually with two ropes (or even with one rope doubled up) you would use an ATC for the rappel. If you didnt have one next best thing is a munter hitch (munters twist the ropes up a lot however) . But it's still possible to use a gri gir, you would have the rope go through the anchor and tie into the end and attach the gri gri to the other side of the anchor. You would then lower your self down similar to lowering some one down like a top rope except you are the one lowering and getting lowered. Also the rope is now sliding threw your anchor this is bad practice because it wears out trees, ect. However if it was with two ropes you would reach the Knot half way down your decent and have to pass the knot that can get pretty complicated and you would most likely need some prussiks. So plan on using a Munter or better yet an ATC.

@@BetaClimbers I use the grigri+ to repel so I can wander and look at stuff on my way down. Also I use a single rope 9.5mm and never double up just so I can get more distance. Just did a full moon summit\ climb last night here in the Rocky Mountains. Started at 11.5k ft at 9pm and climbed to 14.5k ft. Crazy fun to use just the moon light to climb. Pics on my instagram

I’ll check that photo out sounds rad drop your tag for me again 🤙🏻

Sure is, thanks for asking! Hope everything is going good for you as well.

Henry Meyer thanks bro will do! 🤙🏻

To pull a tag line maybe but wouldn’t put my life on it.

@@BetaClimbers okay, what knot would you suggest for rappel?

@@TonySpinach I would end up doing a figure 8 like I did in the video but I wouldn’t have those knots extra fisherman’s

@@BetaClimbers okay cool, thanks man! 🤙🏻

I thought fig 8 follow thru were at risk of untying?

raphael beinhauer wow honestly never thought of that. Might be more snag prone than the EDK though less than the fisherman’s, very interesting lol but I think I’d tie fisherman’s with the tails too anyway lol 😂 Also there is a wrong way to tie the alpine butterfly that looks deceptively like the right one so I’d shy way from it.

@@BetaClimbers Never seen the wrong alpine butterfly. How does that work? I'm pretty good at inspecting knots though, so I'll continue using it

Check this video I made It show how it can be mest up ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CuutMjtG1KA.html

Yeah if your good at inspecting it you should be fine I’m not familiar in using it in that way I’ll give it a try