Thanks for all the work you're putting in. Its going to be nice to bounce a project and grab it from my desktop and a whole bunch of other useful shit.
This is the mod I never knew I wanted/needed...but I do (obviously). Thank you very much to the whole team; the devs for all the coding and you for putting this up on RU-vid - without that I would never have found it. You're a star :)
Well, I gotta say, having deleted some internal folders making a problem for myself, I found the Mockbamod discord, what a fantastic find that was! Cheers for the script Locrian, and hope the rest comes in handy.
I think it is meant to be pronounced Moskva as the Cyrillic would look like Mockba, which means Moscow. Great video, this really unlocks a lot of new features.
Correct, though Mockba the Borg himself has said he uses MoCKba when he speaks to English speaking folks and MoSkVa when speaking to Russian speaking folks. After almost three years of calling it Mockba, I'm not liable to change my pronunciation at this point. Haha. Thanks for checking out the video! I'll be going more in depth in these features soon in future videos.
Does this address the authorized plugin issue when the Akai Force isn't online? My Akai's wi-fi just stopped working one day and I haven't figured why yet, and until I do none of the plugins work.
I would like to see a foot controller set up with a guitar to see if it can do what the Boss loopstation can do?.. Do bluetooth foot controllers pair to the Force? or does it have to be via a 5-pin midi cable?
Thanks for making these videos!! I'd love to learn more about the MIDI automation, this is the one major reason I haven't got the Force, my performance is dependent on having automated tempo changes so I use Ableton as my performance base, but I'd love to be able to use the Force if I could automate tempos
Thanks! Yeah, if it weren't for MockbaMod, I would have sold my Force a long time ago. And yeah. Been bogged down with other stuff but I'm hoping to get my Midiloop (tempo automation, button mapping, pedalboard control, etc.) video done within the next week if the Universe will stop being a DICK, lol.
@@dreamstaticsounds oh nice, button mapping, and pedalboard control sound awesome too! I hope the universe gets less DICK-ish but I know it tends to do that once in a while lol
Sorry it's taking so long. It's been a big struggle to make time and have enough privacy for making videos. And then I have like 8 different videos I'm working on because SEVERE ADHD.
@@dreamstaticsounds Don't worry mate you are my Atreides on that. I just purchase a Behringer FCB1010 for transforming Force to a multi track guitar looper thing. And to be completely honest I don't know were to start I am just staring it. I am Force user but many times feels like I am just a force consumer 🤣🤣🤣 And yeah I know that I am feasting on your private time but if you have any suggestions on using the Behringer with it would be a real blast. Also for the future add on your videos a ''foot controller support'' tutorial as I understood so far it's a follow actions function of midiloop? Generally drop more vids when you can it will make some good difference to people like me. And again no pressure here we are gratefull for what you do anyway!!!
@@dreamstaticsounds I am back here begging you my friend. As it seems your ADHD makes you unique enough to handle all this because I haven't found anyone else that have done it. I don't know what's happening with my project. I feel that I am programming the FCB right but something is going on with the force settings and cc signals. Also as a suggestion you could do simple short vids from a phone. Web is full of useless vids 🤣🤣 you could simply drop setting vids like that and organise them on playlists. it's just a suggestion from someone completely lost and in need. Ahhhh also for some reason I lost the "stop all" button on force. What a mess...
@@paucosmos9050 hey, sorry it's taking me so long. In the meantime, join the MockbaMod Discord and myself, Amit, and others can help you there. discord.gg/HvNBpArSSa
@paucosmos9050 Just finished the footswitch segment of my Midiloop video and put it up on my Patreon for all members (free and paid). www.patreon.com/posts/106175045?
You've done some amazing work on the force. Lots of programming manually. Have you or others considered dumping all your data you have into an AI, like Chat GPT and using it to assist with programming? This will be particularly useful if you have access to the original code. AI can make most of us developers of 3rd party applications that were dreaming of.
I've only ever done hardware mods myself. I mostly do beta testing and feature suggestions for the MockbaMod team. I don't think AI could help with this very particular niche of modding, personally, but who knows.
LOL Dream your a riot buddy. This was cool and helpful. Any chance we can get our own boot screens? What kind of file is required for that boot screen? Also is there a way to default to the mockba mod instead of having to selecting it at boot? I realize it was left it open like that in the event someone wants to load something else, however more than likely people like me just want a straight to song files at start up. Same experience we get with the regular firmware. Wow I love that file browser enhancement!! Having the ability to make those kinds of changes from the browser is powerful.
Hehe. Thanks! Yeah, that's actually a recently added feature. But I haven't tried it myself. Will try and do that this weekend and let you know how it works. Btw, I'm not a developer myself. Mockba and Amit made all of this. I'm mostly a beta tester and idea person who wants to share their amazing work to a wider user base. 🙂
Oh and do you mean the splash screen? That's just a video file. Will have to look and see what format. You can just replace the file with a different one with the same. name. Just needs to be long enough to cover boot time.
@taticsounds Gotcha!! You have been so involved in this modding community that it was difficult to tell who was who and what was what.. I'm sorry. I appreciate everything you're doing. Now I got the location of that config for the midi cc as well. Docs are a little confusing on GitHub. I am going to build out my Morningstar MC8 using this build. I'm excited!!
Do you know if the touch screen sensitivity can be adjusted? Some times it's to sensitive. If not maybe some layers of tape will do. Yes I'm ghetto AF! I taped over most of the buttons on my RS7000 to make them more silent.
Hmm. Not sure. There's not in MockbaMod. Might be in preferences but I don't remember seeing it. I know you can change the dimness so I would think so but Akai makes a lot of weird choices that make me scratch my head.
Yes,I have been using the Automation feature exhaustively. I was watching this video and wanted to expand some functionality, but login and password don't appear in PuTTY.
@@sounds-r-foundproductionz2588 okay. That's definitely weird. The best way we can help you is for you to join the Discord server. The link to do so is on the GitHub page. Once you've joined post this issue in the mockbamod section and we will all be able to help you troubleshoot it.
IamForce2 uses the SD card, right? I mean it's possible but not without a LOT of tweaking to get you there. I tried to set MockbMod up with Hakai which I believe is based on IamForce and I wasn't able to pull it off. But that was probably over a year ago and I don't have an MPC anymore. Definitely would get another one if I knew I could use Mockba with it.
@@dreamstaticsounds Yes, SD card :-) It could be a nice combo, using with some launchpad, and still having pads on mpc :-) Meaby some days someone will make something like that. Or meaby akai will create some hybrid, of live 2 with force, but probably only in my imagination :) Great work afterall! Part of me wonna real force with Your mod :) Keep doing this great job :-)
Damn. I'm sorry to hear that. Unfortunately, as far as I know, they are not compatible with anything else. You might see if you can borrow or rent a Force and then load the projects and export stems and/or clips from your projects. How is your Force not functioning?
Hello ! I have a question . Does external midi controller connected to the Akai force have bidirectionnel communication with the akai force using the Mokba mod ? It's something that does not work with the akai force natively . Then while we can control parameters of a Force plugin for exemple , if the state of this parameter change on the force (for example with an automation) , it is not reflected on the controller . Of course if the controller have something to show this , like motorized fader, led , lcd ,screen, etc .
I don't believe so. But I see you joined the Discord community. Ask for this feature in the feature request section and Amit will let you know if it's possible. I have no idea if it is or not.
Yo! I've posted this around & people are very impressed except for 1 hacker-hater on the elektronauts Force page. Some MPC users are now thinking about coming over to the Dark-Side! Keep up the great work with these demos. Hopefully Akai will take note & stop holding back these useful features. They better bring Stem to the Force, if not, do you think that something team Mockba do for us? Peace
There's always a hater in every group, lol. As for Stems, it's an Akai thing. I suppose it's possible that Amit could develop something that makes use of online stem tools but I really don't know. Best way to request features is to join our Discord server which is listed on the GitHub page and request there. If it's something possible they will say. I'm not a developer myself. More of a beta tester and idea person. And of course I make videos about all this too. But that's about it.
No, but have you looked into Hakai? It can run the Force OS on MPC units. Not sure if the keyboard units are supported but I hope so as I'm planning to get a 61 at some point in the future.
Great stuff! Off topic but what are the chances a Ram mod works? I’m assuming a 4gb should be no problem but what if I wanted to at least get it to 8gb-12gb.
I touched on this a bit in my disassembly mod video where I showed off my tilt screen mod but I've learned some things about that since. At this point, the work required seems beyond my abilities and it has been said that the internal bios might not recognize more than 4gb of ram because that chip only ever came in 2 and 4gb models. The best hope I know of to up the ram at all at this point is to get your hands on a MPC Keys or X SE mainboard and swap the Force board with that and then change the device ID in the firmware so that it can run the Force OS. But it might also be possible to simply swap out the CPU/ram chips without swapping the whole board in which case I THINK (I don't know for sure) it might not need the ID changed etc. Ultimately, these devices were never made to perform beyond the original specs of those boards. I would like to hope Akai is working on a new product line that has more ram and CPU power etc. or some kind of customer upgrade option but they just keep churning out more devices with these boards so that seems unlikely for the foreseeable future.
Wow, crazy. So I’m guessing there would be a way to assign a midi trigger to launch/cycle through scenes/rows like in ableton? It seems like such a basic feature to be missing from Akai but unfortunately it’s been completely ignored so loading up my ableton sets with all the midi trigger data and then loading all the MPC programs that live in the mpc vst within ableton is no help when I can’t cycle through scenes with a multipad and sticks. Very annoying but thinking of diving into the mod if I can assign or midi learn a trigger to launch scenes.
@@dreamstaticsounds oh sweet! Yeah I watched that vid previously but couldn’t see any midi learn for scene cycle? Does it have to be done on the step sequencer? Or can I trigger scenes with a midi controller? Many thanks!
@@dreamstaticsounds oh man thanks so much for this! This function means I can run live show with Force & Strike Multipad with sticks and merge all the Ableton scenes & midi info with all MPC programs into Force and leave laptop at home. I just need to set up a workaround to cycle scenes with a single trigger rather than one trigger per scene. I noticed in the instructions to update firmware first, is this necessary? As I can’t update because the later firmwares have midi bugs with multipad, it’s the other reason that the Force has been sitting unused for a number of years until I found one firmware that doesn’t do this but also reads Ableton sessions & MPC kits. Thanks again, I’ll go and check out the video now!
So when I install the Mockbamod: 1. Is it also easyly removeable from the FORCE, when I don't want it anymore? And how can I remove it after installing it? 2. And what is when Akai releases a new Firmware update for the FORCE. Can I still install that new FirmwareUpdate with no issues? And what does it do to Mockbamod: Will it become deleted (replaced by the new Firmware) or will it stay on the FORCE? 3. Can I have the Official current FORCE OS and Mockbamod installed on the FORCE at the same time?
Very good questions. 1. All you have to do is install the official firmware again to remove it. 2. Usually we release a new modded firmware within 24 hours of Akai releasing the newest firmware so there's often no need to install the official one. 3. The mod is just an addon of sorts. All you have to do to run the Force without it is take the MockbaMod SD card out and it will run the standard firmware. All the MockbaMod firmware does is tell the standard firmware to boot the extra options from the SD card. Let me know if any of that isn't clear and I'll be glad to elaborate as needed.
@@dreamstaticsounds thank you for the super fast reply :) I really appreciate what you and all people involved in the MockbaMod have done here. From a company standpoint this project is probably overengineered. But personally I hate the term „This is overengineered“ because in a lot of cases this is where a product/Software starts to get really useful for the user and also gives the whole thing the „wow“-effect. But I was a bit worried about getting bad issues with my FORCE someday after the Installation of MockbaMod, because this no official Firmware and there is nobody bound to deliver bugfixes or help when Users run into issues, or somehow the bootloader/bios will be destroyed and you can‘t boot the device anymore. You mentioned the emmc demage. Is it possible with that issue to install a new official Firmware from Akai and get rid of the problem?
@@silvershepherd2124 Our Discord is always open for support. I don't see that changing anytime soon. As for the emmc issue, from our tests, only installing the official 3.1 firmware has fixed the emmc issue and even that doesn't work sometimes. If you didn't want to use MockbaMod but wanted to fix emmc issues you could always install the MockbaMod firmware long enough to run the emmc repair and then install the official firmware again.
ohhh my!!! Who are you?? I have probably a too quick of a question for you. I just want to use Arturia Minilab 3 with force some CC maping and use the keyboard arpeggiator with forces plugins. Is this thing even possible?
@@dreamstaticsounds Hey thank you for your response I have another quick question could I trigger and record in pads with a foot pedal like a Behringer FCB1010. So I could create a multi channel looper without using my hands?
If you hold shift and then push and hold the metronome button (the arm button for track 5 at the bottom) that'll take you into the metronome settings. In there I believe you can change the output of the metronome to outputs 3 and 4 and then you can just route a stereo cable out from there into a headphone amp or use an adapter and go straight out into headphones.
You da fucking man! This is the video many people have been waiting for. This is just on time for me I'm just about done with the project I've been working on & will have the time learn this OS. Thank you so much! One thing that I want is for the quick side menu that's on the left to be able to be moved to right of the bottom of the screen. I'm always pressing a clip by mistake. At least make it invisible but still active. I'll pass this demo around. BTW, you are not T.R.A.S.H. Peace!
You can make that menu go away in Akai's preferences and then just use Midiloop to set button commands or combos to open things you would use the menu for. That's what I've done. I'm not at my Force right now but when I have a moment I'll tell you where you can change that.
@@dreamstaticsoundsI like the feature, but not the placement for it. I saw the button thing your talking about, but I just wanted to throw that out there as another option. I post this video on some sites, hopefully it will "force" Akai to add them officially!
I'll be honest I have an engineering background and comfortable with IT generally but I think the Akai force is complicated enough and seams like this is a huge undertaking. Thanks for the video, takes alot of effort for creation I'm sure. if I retire early from my job I might do the mod😅. Would Akai ever interface with the Mod developers, ever?
If you have no experience with Linux or modded firmwares, it definitely takes some getting used to. But the benefits, IMO, are well worth it. And no, if Akai were going to do that, I would think they would have reached out by now. They ignore us and pretend we don't exist. 🤷♀️
This is something you would probably be better off reaching out to Moss (DrivenByMoss, ConvertWithMoss) about. He's done this with Reaper and Bitwig for a bunch of devices including the Force and MPC.
I've not ever used novnc. If it's a VNC client it should be able to connect the same as any other VNC client app. I'll give it a try when I have time and see.
@@dreamstaticsounds ok thanks it works in any browser so ios compatible i just dont know how to connect the dots myself.. would be a cool addition to your vids
I believe there's a way to do so via SSD. Head over to our Discord server and Amit might be able to help you with that. Here's the link: discord.gg/HvNBpArSSa
Honestly, not sure if it will help. Might be worth a try though. The Bluetooth in the Force just generally kind of sucks. It works okay with some things but not really at all with most things.
Verselab MV 1 About the mod, it looks great and have to say hat off to everyone single one of you involved in making it happen. The only thing is i’d be scared to try it after i commented on your bigot video. I’ve known my brother was gay since i was 17 and never had an issue. Today age 45, we’re bombarded with political messages, labels, people expecting strangers to address them a certain way. Not once has my brother or any of his friends ever did that, nor do they expect me to address them a certain way. My question is, why bring those messages into a music channel if you don’t want people to ask questions or god forbid, have an opinion? I’m hoping you can answer this without using any labels 😢
For one, I have a terrible memory and have no recollection of what was said by you or me in that thread and i cannot find it now. For two, this is my channel and nobody is holding a gun to your head. If you don't like what i say, theres a whole lot more to watch here on YT. For three, i am not gay i am nonbinary and i have a transgender daughter and the degree of attempts by people in government and elsewhere in society to erase our existence is enough to deal with. I dont have time or patience to do the heavy lifting to explain my life and my choices to anyone, least of which some rando who argues with me in RU-vid comments.
I didn’t ask you to, i was just hoping you might’ve been able to see the issue. It’s absolutely fine, as you say there’s plenty other channels, not plenty other mods but hey enjoy the rest of your day 👋🏻
@@TeamHanded the issue is that people seem to think they deserve to be catered to. Tomorrow I could pull every mod video I have and put up videos about how transgender people are having their rights taken away in about half of the United States and elsewhere in the world and that would be my choice. If you want to try the mod, try the mod. I'm just a beta tester and I try to make videos that show people how all this stuff works. I don't make the mods. No need to hurt your ego trying them. But I'm not about to change who I am or what I have to say to try and make everybody comfy cozy either. 🤷♀️
Do y'all get off on correcting people or is it just me. You're like the 5th dude to point this out. As I've said in the past, Mockba doesn't mind either spelling or pronunciation. Want to teach me anything else while you're here?
