I have a 2018 Cannondale (27.5"-650B) CUJO 3 with SUNTOUR XCR FORKS...are there any upgrades or IS THERE ANYTHING to change for a better ride? so many have told me to just get a new set of forks but the prices are almost what I paid for the entire bike ($1200cdn) & maybe I'd be better off just getting a new $bike$? I love the gearing/set-up for ME on the Cujo but I don't really know any better when it comes to this sport...put 740 km on it since August of 2018 - never jumped it or have done anything except ride on pavement normally due to my back injury BUT I DID GET OUT ON A BIKE with my Dr's OK & have been loving it since!!! YES, I'm sure a full suspension mtb would be better for my back BUT because I'll NEVER be jumping or "downhilling" is it really worth it MONEY wise? Would really love to hear your suggestions.
@@nervousordo yeah you're right, my already 10k bike could have been replaced with a better version for $1250. Good luck with your Walmart junk though bro 👍
I’m here trying to figure out which one works for my fuel ex 9. It came with a fox 34 but it’s leaking and I want a new one. Can I buy any fox 34 fork and it bolts up? Can I get a 36 for added travel?
Hey thanks Rupert! And we don't necessarily see it as marketing. We see it as bringing value to the industry by sharing the knowledge we have. If that makes anyone want to shop with us, cool. Win win 😊. But we're here to support people having fun on bikes.
You can fit tapered fork to a semi integrated head tube (common on entry level frames) that came standard with straight steerer by replacing the bottom cup of the headset. Nukeproof do one called the EX44-40 - B5. This opens up a lot more options for replacement forks.
Excellent video guys! I just went through this process a few weeks ago and this is very helpful for anyone in that process. Just as an extra tip: even if tapered is the current standard, there are different "tapered" measurements, so making sure you have the correct headset for the fork you wanna mount is also a must or it simply won't fit. That just happened to me, turns out my previous fork was a straight tube with an adapter to run into my tapered frame and when I tried to get a new headset for the new fork which was tapered, they weren't fitting because my frame was "the shorter" tapered standard 😅 you guys helped me to get the right headset, so thank you very much 😁👌
I upgraded budget forks to new budget forks and the difference is unreal. Got some RockShox recon silver on sale for just over £100. Riding trails is a joy again
Solid Info as always. I’m a old school Sk8er that totally got obsessed with MTB so my knowledge is limited currently, I’m running Fox 36 performance f4 & Factory DPX 2 on my Devinci DJango. Sounds like I’m running to much travel on it. “ Engineers did plan for it🖖🏽” Wouldn’t of know the Difference having to much FUN!!! LETS GO!!✊🏼
I’m a huge supporter of The Stand! I literally subscribed just because I saw them in the background hahaha. All kidding aside, I really like the content being created. Keep up the good work.
I just got some Fox factory 36. They’re longer travel and 29 taking a 27 wheel. Worst case ill run them a bit softer with vol spacers. It’s going to be awesome, change my mind.
Can u make a Video about Headets and measurements? And angle headsets, so if u want to make ur geo up to Date u dont have to pay for a new longer fork or else.
I need to replace the fork on a 2017 Diamondback Recoil 29er. I bought it from my neighbor a few months ago. Everything on it was trashed. I am about six weeks from turning 60. I am disabled with a spine injury... 🤕 I will only use it for exercise to help strengthen my back and legs. I have a very small budget. I'm trying to improve after 5 years of paralysis. I can't even remember what a headset looks like. A video that explains what a "zero stack ahead 1⅛", is and how to replace the parts. Most important, I'd like to learn exactly which parts I need to order. Oh. Thanks for the video. I just subscribed.
Great video, I've been thinking about upgrading my Trek to disc brakes. Starting to think no.... eying brand new bikes and think ill just keep the Trek original retro. It was a great bike in its day.
You "can" run a 29er fork for 27.5 frame but since the arch is taller, you lose about 20mm of possible travel per wheel-size. Smaller the wheel, the more travel you get from the same axle-to-crown distance. You can also upgrade your 26er with modern tapered fork but there are many things to consider. If you have an older freeride bike that can use 200mm 26er fork with 570mm axle-to-crown, you can run a 160mm 29er. If you are upgrading a 26er 20x110 DH to a 15x110 Boost you'll need a 5mm brake rotor spacer. Even though the axle width is the same, the designed distance from brake rotor to brake mount is 5mm wider on the 15x110 Boost spec. Also, you'd need to run something with torque cap compatible fork because the 26er 20x110's hub interface diameter is larger than what the 27.5-29er 15x110 hub. Maybe your 26er came with 1.5" headtube - you'll need a reducer top or if it's already running straight 1 1/8 reducer top and bottom, you'll need a 1.5" bottom.
I appreciate your chuckle at my sitution. I dont know if I should swap to new front wheel or what I have an old mtb but I converted it to an ebike. still a good frame.
Another thing, they said 9mm QR, when they meant 5mm QR. A 9mm QR is a standard that Fox stopped using 2 years ago. They had stopped using 5mm QR a long time ago. Whenever you see a cheaper modern bike with QR axles, it is probably the 5mm QR standard. I was confused a while ago, so I measured the QR axles on my road bike, and they were 5mm. I have an older mountain bike, that has a 9mm QR front axle, and a 5mm rear axle. I have never seen a 9mm QR used as a rear axle, but they probably exist somewhere. My friend's Marin Hawk Hill 1 has a 15 mm thru axle on the fork, but uses a 5mm skewer on the back in a bolt through dropout, in some weird combination thing to keep the cost down.
Plus 1 on the maker’s mark! ❤️ Got here since I am looking for more information if I can upgrade my Trek Marlin 7 2021 fork from Rockshox Judy to Fox 32. Things I thought off to consider are the axle. Marlins have a QR skewer while Fox32 has a TA. 🤷🏻♂️
Hey thanks for the video, bike git stolen a couple of months ago and I recently got it back. They painted the whole bike, including the forks and the seals are full of paint and don't really travel anymore. So looks like I'm getting a new fork . There's lots more damage but this will get me going again
Odd question: could I swap out my current 130 29er forks (with 27.5 wheel, 2.6 tyre) to a 150 27.5 fork (with 27.5 wheel, 2.6 tyre) ?? If axle to crown is very similar, only 3mm difference will it change to geometry very much?
When you refer to "modern " bikes, what year would put a bike in the modern category? I have a 2015 Guant Revel 29er disc breaks. I'm looking upgrade the forks. Currently it has a SunTrust XCT 80mm fork. What would be a good replacement?
I would think it would come down to axle standards. Prior to 2012 most bikes had 10mmx100 Quick release front and rear. Around 2012 and later Rear axles went to I believe to 12mmx124mm through axles and 15x100 on the front. Around the time your bike was built it was the same 12x124 rear and went to 15x110 Boost front. Around 2018 it went to Boost standards for the front and rear. Along with these, steer tube standards would be 1/8-1/5 These standards would not necessarily be applicable to lower end bikes. If your bike was less than $2000 it would be wise not to go down the rabbit hole and the headache of playing the parts compatibility game, and just get a new updated rig.
i have a 2018 GT Avalanche. 9 or 10mm QR. i use a DT swiss 350 with their 10mm QR axle. its great. i have a tapered full integrated head tube. i use a cane creek 44. headset. a rockshox recon tk gold 100mm. i an getting a fox 32 or 34, used. 3 to 4 hundred. fit float 3 position. all the bells n whistles. 120 to 140mm. it fits.
This would have been an incredibly useful video to me two months ago when I did my very first fork upgrade. A little blood, a lot of tears. I may have called my bike “a little bitch” 3 times, and it took me like 4 hours. But I did it! Put on a 120mm X fusion Enix (needed a straight steerer tube fork that was cheap because I’m pandemic poor)
Thanks so much! We actually have a video explaining fork offset as well, check it out! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0ZOFcO50D0A.html
My bike is from walmart and I have no idea what offset it had but I changed it out for a scrap m3030 due to major failure in the Walmart one. The manufacturer says that the stock fork was 80mm and that a 100mm fork would be fine. Idk it’s just weird. After I changed forks my steering was a bit more responsive but that could be from the fact that there was no play in the stanchions.
Great videos guys! Am thinking of upgrading my fork, its a 160mm and the bike has a 150mm damper on the rear. Do you think switching to a ZEB 180mm is reasonable with 30mm difference to the damper or is 170mm the max to keep things balanced?
So i have an old bike 2002 to be exact. Its non tapered threaded but i feel like the bike is modern enough to uprgrade the fork. Im basically uprading the whole bike as well
I have a 170mm front/160 back suspension bike,i just bought a 190 zen,it works well but im thinking to change the airsprint to 180,the 190 is just a little bit big
I'm just getting into MTB's and bought a Cyrusher FR100, manufacture confirmed my dual crown forks are the 1-1/8 straight steer tube, 100mm QD axle, and 75mm caliper mount. Can I change to a single crown fork with the same specs? Just many more options with reputable brands like FOX and Rockshox with single crown fork
I’m really enjoyed watching this, especially the way you are speaking :D But there is one thing I still can’t understand: which fork size should I choose for 28 wheel size for hard tail cross country purposes?
Hello Worldwide Cyclery I have a Sr Suntour Xct 80mm of travel quick release, and I looking to upgrade the fork to a better one with 100mm would be enough any suggestions.
Got a question! I have an older Recon TK Gold 100mm Solo Air, on a BMC Team Elite TE03 29er. I think its the 2013 Deore build. I bought the bike used this spring for $350 and I'm hooked lol The fork still works fine and I will service it soon. My mechanic said it's fine and was well kept, just needs a little love over the winter and it should feel like new :) Which I have no idea how it feels cuz I never rode new ones, but guessing just smoother and more sensitive overall. I kind of know the levels of RockShox forks/what the names/numbers mean. So for example, how much better/different is a new, entry level Judy TK Gold 100mm Solo Air, compared to what I already have? I don't really think it's a worthy upgrade, unless I go for a 120 mm travel one, which I'm afraid will mess up the geometry of the bike (which is already a bit old, from what I gathered watching so many videos on modern bikes lol) Since I'm a noob, I'm planing on keeping the bike for at least a year or two more, it's nice for learning and for the type of trails and riding I have nearby, and I won't cry a lot if I break it lol Already upgraded some crucial parts - mainly Shimano Deore BR-M6100 brakes (instead of the horrifying Avid Elixr 1s lol), new tires, flat pedals, 780 mm bars with 30 mm rise (instead of the 720 mm flat bars), and a new seat that actually fits my butt lol And also testing out a shorter, 50 mm stem (instead of the 75 mm). I'm very happy with my bike, just wandered if it's a worthy upgrade to consider! Thank you for the awesome content! xD
I want to change my non-suspension fork to a suspension one. My bike is a 2004 Trek 3500. It was my dad’s and I took it when he passed. From what I can find online about the 2004 is it has a 1 1/8” threadless according to multiple info pages about it when it came out. But looking at it, it has the nut around the top and then the bolt on the top. So I have no clue. And I don’t want to spend the money for a shop to tell me what it is. I am in a catch 22 lol
Probably not, if they didn't even put a tapered head tube and a adapter headset, the bike is probably not worth upgrading. You would be better off getting a new bike when you reach the limits of this one. Just wondering, what bike do you have?
@@JustAGlitchFL I have a trek marlin 6. Saved up over the summer and bought that as my first ever mountain bike. I know which one I would buy if I got a new one- Nukeproof Scout 290, but I have no idea when I’ll have $1500 to spend on a new bike.
So I have an sb140 2020, with a fox performance 37mm offset. Would a factory fork with 44 offset completely change the ride????help I’m struggling to find the answers…love your work
I got a talon 4, but cannot find a service manual for it. There is no way to know how to make fork adjustments, how often to lube bearings, how often various maintenance things are required, etc. Honestly, I hate the added complexity and costs of modern bikes. They were just fine before suspensions
Hi Bikers, of course content is great and was enjoying to watch, however coming with question :) I have a XC bike, Trek Procaliber and was wondering if RockShox Reba would be a good fork for this bike knowing that SID has many issues. Would you recommend Reba as Judy SL replacement ? Or maybe something different in similar price range ?
I have a 2012 Ibis Mojo and it came with Fox Talas 32 140mm travel. The fork went out and I am thinking of replacing it with a Fox 36 160mm travel along with upgrading the fork to a the coil conversion from smashpot. Let me know what you think. Thanks
Hello fellow outdoor enthusiast my name is zody I just bought a huffy mountain bike brand new for 50 bucks all that needed was a seat I don't plan on doing anything crazy into I build up my stamina and learn the ropes of riding I used to ride when I was a kid but I was never into any thing to extreme mainly just jumping off little ramps in your backyard and such but here lately I've been wanting to get back into shape and I thought what better way than a good old bicycle you get to enjoy the outdoors and the trails and it's just a lot of fun. So with that being said guys my forks have this play in them they're the factory huffy forks I don't trust it I think potentially it could cause me to wreck if I'm going into a burn too hard like I said I don't plan on doing any extreme jumps I just building some bridges across creeks and a few Burns to build up my stamina and get in shape and learn more. So I was just wondering what kind would y'all guys recommend that not cheap but low budget hey if you'd like to contact me my Facebook is Zody Lynn thanks guys I live in the Bessemer Alabama area got plenty of Great woods to ride and there's plenty of local parks around here so hit me up I'm always ready to learn and make new friends I've been very down lately so it would help happy holidays y'all stay safe 🤙🙂
so, i have a scott spark 120-120...it's ok to go 120-140 (max) front? beside rear, the frame triangle is the same of genius with 150 fork... so in theory ther's no problem to go with 140... thoughts?
I wouldn't go more than 130mm at front. Usually bike manufacturers don't recommend more than 10mm up-forking. Bare in mind that Genius is designed from ground up to have 150mm front and rear, same story is with your bike, 120mm F and R. So 10 mm upgrade is safe and you will be happy with that. Just mine opinion.
Thx for the reply. The fact is that a airshaft for change travel, cost a few dollar/euro, so i will go for 140 and everytime i can go back to 130. If i have to have only one travel, i will stay on Max 130mm
Don’t abuse your spark like that. You don’t want to snap the head tube or something. If you’re trying to fit a longer fork on your spark, you probably need a bigger bike in general....
@@MaplePanda04 i don’t need big bike, it’s just because I have to change my fork and for the price and the fact that airshaft cost a few dollars, I was wondering if try more travel. For sure 130 is a sweet spot
rake? ive been out of mtb'ing awhile now but im just trying to catch back up. is rake where the forks look bent back in some pictures? in an attempt to get the axel back under and inline with the steerer tube?
hey I watched this video to learn about forks because I'm kind of rebuilding one of my bikes. I really got into mountain biking with a schwinn ascention 29 and recently I took everything off and I'm just putting new parts on because i like the frame. I would really like to put a fox 32 xc fork on it but it came stock with a straight steerer tube. However, the lower headset bearing cup is larger than the top bearing cup would a tapered head tube work with this frame?
