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How To Use a HOTAS With StarField 

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In this video I will show you how to make a joystick / hotas work insdie StarField. I will show you how to emulate a Xbox controller to make Starfield think your hotas is a xbox controller with it interfering with your other games
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@BlackStar250874
@BlackStar250874 8 месяцев назад
This worked way better than some other suggestions, like X360 Controller Emulator. Thanks! Kinda weird to see how many are (quite angry) defending their mouse use in Starfield flying and are even saying that there is not enough flying to justify stupid flightstick usage. LOL. I LOVE IT!
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
Great video! I have been enjoying Starfield alot. I love flying in SC and ED for the immersion but even though the flying is more arcade than simulator in Starfield, I still enjoy it. The HOTAS just makes it more fun in my opinion.
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
I did a search for the default buttons on Stafield and that helped getting it setup much easier
@danyjacco4853
@danyjacco4853 11 месяцев назад
Man, thank you very much, this is a life changer! I was using x360ce and it was soooooooo buggy and always crashed on me! Thanks a lot this combo of airfare works flawlessly
@isaacschmitt4803
@isaacschmitt4803 7 месяцев назад
"Starfield doesn't support HOTAS controllers . . . " I'll take "Things I wish I knew before buying a $200 controller," Alec! But seriously, thank you so much for making this video! I've been trying to figure out why Starfield doesn't even recognize my controller, and now I have a solution! A slightly complicated and tricky solution for a techno-barbarian like me, but a solution nonetheless.
@TheGizwop
@TheGizwop 6 месяцев назад
wish I had seen this coment befor getting one off Ebay lol
@danford6678
@danford6678 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for doing this guide DTEA nice to see you making content for games that aren't scams again.
@TomCatT_
@TomCatT_ 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video. It seems that developers of space sims are increasingly favoring specific input methods. Many of the games I enjoy now primarily support either keyboard/mouse or an Xbox controller, leaving other input schemes less supported.
@russelljensen3705
@russelljensen3705 11 месяцев назад
Hey Peeps- The two pieces of software described here do indeed work as mentioned, but I've run into a few caveats and challenges. Namely: 1. If you're using a sliding throttle, you have to set it up as an Axis Splitter, with the input being 'Axes, X' and the output for the xbox controller being "Axes, LY" for high, and "Axes, LY", for low. Actually works pretty well (using a Saitek Pro x-56 Rhino throttle). 2. The 'movement' of the ship is controller by the "RX" and "RY" Axes of the xbox controller, not the LX or LY. NOTE: If you're used to rotating your ship around by twisting the joy stick, you're outta luck here. The joystick works like a mouse. 3. DPAD can be mapped to a 4 way HAT button, and you can use that to quickly and easily move between your ship systems and adjust the power. However- I have run into a problem that I don't know how to solve (anybody got suggestions?) When you go into your mission menu in your ship, it seems like your mouse and HOTAS are fighting for control. Makes it damned near impossible to navigate the mission selection or system navigation. Anybody got any ideas? The goal would be to only have the hotas work during actual space travel and not menu work. Awesome vid. Thanks all!
@MKRocker2012
@MKRocker2012 11 месяцев назад
There's an option in the settings menu that if checked will let you "seamlessly" switch between M&K and Controller. I'm guessing what's happening in your case is that the game is still detecting inputs from your HOTAS when you go into the menu and you would need to set some dead zones.
@russelljensen3705
@russelljensen3705 11 месяцев назад
@@MKRocker2012 So I played around with it some more this morning. I found that setting (was already on) and I think I know what the issue is... When you're mapping a slider to the LS 'y' axis, you can't really define where the 'neutral' point is for the throttle slider and the software is honestly just kinda guessing. It leads to some interesting behaviors, like, when the throttle is all the way back it suddenly thinks you are accelerating. I tried to create a filter that amplified the LS Y axis maximum and decreased the LS Y axis minimum and now it kinda works? The neutral point for the the throttle (according to the UCR software) is way up in where I would expect to be accelerating, so the actual throw of the throttle between 0 and full speed is short. That said, if it IS there, I can successfully use the mouse and switch between the two. If anybody has any good ideas on how to 'zero' the throttle position using this software, I'd love to see them. I'll keep working on it, but in reality, the best fix would simply be for Starfield to have HOTAS drivers.
@juriahethejester3359
@juriahethejester3359 11 месяцев назад
Rotate is Left Stick X It works.
@russelljensen3705
@russelljensen3705 11 месяцев назад
@@juriahethejester3359 Elaborate, pls? Would love a new idea!
@juriahethejester3359
@juriahethejester3359 11 месяцев назад
@@russelljensen3705 On the Xbox controller Rotate is the X axis on the Left Stick use axis to axis map from one axis to another one and set it to the z axis on my joystick.
@Shadow.Dragon
@Shadow.Dragon 11 месяцев назад
Great video! Any chance you can share your Starfield profile with us? Thanks for sharing you knowledge with the community!
@AtlasGaming4k
@AtlasGaming4k 11 месяцев назад
This is the reason I watch you for many years! You solve problems that I’m too lazy to figure out myself :)
@JB818
@JB818 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for taking the time to put this instruction together. It was very helpful, i do think your way is better than JoyToKey so the centering resets itself. Quite disappointed that it isn't native to the game. It is so easy for anyone and everyone to critique the purpose, but for the intent of your video - you knocked it out the park and I among others are thankful. It's taken me a little time to get used to the thrusters but after some time in the Sim it feels OK. But I do have a question that you might be able to help me with. I struggle with my mouse and keyboard working after I've been using my HOTAS. For example I just landed on a planet after some space combat, now the mouse won't move my view and it defaults to the HOTAS. To this point, the only solution I've found is saving and reloading once I've landed which remedies it. A minor inconvenience but worth being able to push that throttle forward and swing my ship around with thrusters effortlessly. Thank you again and I hope you keep creating as I'll be watching!
@mirshia5248
@mirshia5248 10 месяцев назад
yes this is a big issue, you either have joysticks works or gamepad or keyboard, not both same time
@widam
@widam 11 месяцев назад
Great video, one thing you can do is bind RS button and add the hat or 2d controller in the same action to use the thrusters lateral and up/down, so combat is more like Elite, you can orbit the target.
@MR.MACH1NE
@MR.MACH1NE 11 месяцев назад
Axis to Axis, dust to dust😆 Thanks Astro I will be checking this out as my Virpil is sitting gathering dust as I haven't played ED for months
@khalidmurad5879
@khalidmurad5879 11 месяцев назад
Excellent video once again and thank you for taking the time to create it. I know these things are not just 5 mins! I'm downloading Starfield later today and will look at binding my hotas when I've settled into the game. I've watched hours of footage and know what to expect. I just hope the cut scenes won't be too much of a negative. Keep up the good work and content. Do you play Falcon BMS on your hotas/as?
@NicolasTasche
@NicolasTasche 10 месяцев назад
This took a bit. but works great! Thank you as always!
@stain_
@stain_ 11 месяцев назад
im very excited to be able to get some of these in the near future
@fortunado21
@fortunado21 10 месяцев назад
Thank you! Trying out my Virpil controller with this now. :)
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
Using joytokey is much easier. I maped my logitech x56 and it works great. But you can use whatever hotas or controller you whant. Much easier just to use this one program then 2. And its easier to map.
@caaront
@caaront 11 месяцев назад
I bet this would work for driving my wagons in RDR2 Online.
@SWATStrachan
@SWATStrachan 11 месяцев назад
The input controls for the flight mode are so limited that I don't think that a simulated HOTAS setup will actually make much difference. For example, once you've unlocked the ship thruster skill, to be able to use the ships thrusters (for vertical and lateral motion), you need to hold down a modifier key which switches between attitude control and thruster control, there is no separate input just for the thrusters! So even with a HOTAS, wouldn't that just mean that the best that you can hope for is being able to momentarily swap your stick from controlling direction, to controlling lateral movement? Starfield was touted as the next big thing in space games, but it's not. The piloting part feels like some kind of mini-game, one that can be skipped entirely in most instances by using fast travel. Frankly it's just Fallout 4 on different planets. Without extending the inputs for starship control, or introducing native HOTAS control, it'll never be taken seriously as a space game.
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
You are so wrong hehe. Using joytokey you can map everything much easier. And with hotas it feels alot like elite dangerous. But haters gonna hate. I love the space combat with hotas in this game. I think its more fun the elite. You got more options here.
@michaelmcgee8189
@michaelmcgee8189 11 месяцев назад
Who touted it as that?
@zacharypump5910
@zacharypump5910 11 месяцев назад
@@lillen141 able to map, strafing busters and star field? Because the Xbox controller expects you to hold down the button to do that, seems pretty annoying.
@tweaked74
@tweaked74 11 месяцев назад
My question is, can I do this to get my hotas working. But still use my Xbox controller for the on foot stuff? Ir will it interfere with it
@cmdrjaycemacleod8198
@cmdrjaycemacleod8198 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for this Astro!
@MavicAir1
@MavicAir1 11 месяцев назад
Good vid. Lately I saw a few vid's where people are using a emulator called x360ce. Looks slick but have many questions.
@gregs7194
@gregs7194 11 месяцев назад
Great video, how did you solved the power assignment to Grav Drive, Engines, Lasers, Ballistic etc. Thx
@joepohlman123
@joepohlman123 11 месяцев назад
works for me. however can you explain on mapping the left x and y axis using a throttle instead of a stick?
@hasfidanken
@hasfidanken 11 месяцев назад
Next one, can you make a tutorial on how to use a StreamDeck ??? Thanks!
@reaperactualgaming3075
@reaperactualgaming3075 11 месяцев назад
This seems like a lot of work for a game where unfortunately flying is a means to an end and not the primary focus.
@frognutz0o
@frognutz0o 11 месяцев назад
yeah flying is not at all a good part of the game in my opinion. not sure how to really word it, but it did not peak my interest and make me want to fly for longer than i had to.
@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@DowntoEarthAstronomy 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I know. People have just asked me so many times when I was streaming it, so I figured I would make a video.
@lydellb
@lydellb 11 месяцев назад
Yeah it's such an afterthought and is a bit disappointing. I have a virpl I would love to use for this game but it's just not worth it. It almost begs you to fast travel everywhere.
@dicktater807
@dicktater807 11 месяцев назад
Hopefully modders can give us the other 2 movement axis' and add some inertia like elite dangerous.
@The.Dark.Dominion.
@The.Dark.Dominion. 10 месяцев назад
The game is not a space sim. People….smh
@jessicatimm559
@jessicatimm559 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the tutorial much appreciated!
@YourTamedLion
@YourTamedLion 4 месяца назад
You are the best ❤
@MichaelHenfrey
@MichaelHenfrey 11 месяцев назад
Might give this a try to see how it feels. Can I ask, What are you using to mount the control boxes on your desk? Cheers
@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@DowntoEarthAstronomy 11 месяцев назад
They are not mounted to the desk but the frame behind them. i'm just using normal deck clamps from Virpil
@johnyewtc1
@johnyewtc1 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for the excellent video! Subscribed. I managed to create a profile using my antique Logitech Wingman Extreme 3D and it works fantastically. A question, is there a way for the HOTAS throttle to be progressive; ie 0-100? After giving it some thought with regards to the xbox controller 'throttle' LS Yaxis, it's not controlling in a progressive manner, if i'm explaning it correctly. Is this correct?
@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@DowntoEarthAstronomy 11 месяцев назад
I tried to find a way to get a absolute throttle, but since the game only support relative throttles it's not easy to do
@frbie11
@frbie11 10 месяцев назад
Great video. Is a dual stick configuration possible?
@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@DowntoEarthAstronomy 10 месяцев назад
Yes should be not be a problem
@PhantomMark
@PhantomMark 11 месяцев назад
And why we don't have this out the box infuriates me
@zacharypump5910
@zacharypump5910 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video, but were you able to map strafing thrusters to a thumb stick? Starfield expects you to hold down a button on the controller to be in strafing mode, no clue how that would work on a remap. Edit: other thing I'm wonder is a throttle you move and leave in a position, whereas the left stick of the controller is used to move a "virtual thruster" position of the ship.. Which would be pretty unnatural. Is there a way to deal with that as well?
@Sihmunath
@Sihmunath 11 месяцев назад
It's amazing that I can board a random ship, kill the crew and steal a ship.
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
Indeed. Everything you wanted from elite dangerous but never got. Love starfield.
@deio977
@deio977 11 месяцев назад
It's amazing Astro! I will definitely use this in Starfield. Will it work with No Man's Sky? I am curious as heck cause NMS keeps me from playing because of HOTAS. Can you try it? I can, but only tomorrow evening when I return home.
@DowntoEarthAstronomy
@DowntoEarthAstronomy 11 месяцев назад
I don't see why this wouldn't work in NMS too. As long as the game supports controller input this should work just fine.
@redtiga3001
@redtiga3001 11 месяцев назад
Is there vigem equivalent for a keyboard? I have too many binds i need for my velocityone flightstick for one vigem controller and it doesn't let me use more than 1 controller in starfield.
@distruttoredimondi
@distruttoredimondi 11 месяцев назад
Why I can't see the Input device?
@eoconnor2000
@eoconnor2000 11 месяцев назад
Fantastic Video - How did you setup your throttle . I used the Axis to Axis for an X56 Throttle - Axes X -Throttle Forward - Axes Y -Throttle Back to Controller Axes LX and LY - the throttle goes forward and back but the ship also rolls left and right - Anyone else having this issue. Also when back on land if throttle is forward your character moves as well.
@russelljensen3705
@russelljensen3705 11 месяцев назад
You have to use the 'axes splitter' function. Look above to the thread I started. Found a solution (kinda) but could use some additional tuning.
@mirshia5248
@mirshia5248 2 месяца назад
why though? there isnt much flying in starfield, you 90% on foot
@petrvyhnalek5275
@petrvyhnalek5275 11 месяцев назад
I gave up on throtle control, but please, can anyone help me to set Rudder left pedal to decrase speed, and right pedal to increase speed? It works now like this: when push first half is decreasing, and after half is increasing speed. btw great tutorial, almost all else is working... thx
@ole-christianelness3365
@ole-christianelness3365 11 месяцев назад
will a thrustmaster t flight hotas x work?
@lance0724
@lance0724 10 месяцев назад
is thre no way to just download a profile?
@EnjiGold
@EnjiGold 11 месяцев назад
Would I be able to use a midi controller to map to this software?
@bradysimpson
@bradysimpson 11 месяцев назад
Don’t have the game. Probably won’t get it soon. But this is still a great vid and I hope it works for y’all.
@Whoadayson
@Whoadayson 9 месяцев назад
Thank for the video - this seems a much better option than the buggy emulator Ive seen around. Im a little late to this party but Im hoping I can get some help from anyone who can... I have the driver and app downloaded and configured, I can see my joystick in UCR and it moves the emulated xbox axis as it should be (referring to blue bars in the UCR config edit screen, my stick axis and the xbox axis move together) HOWEVER, nothing translates into starfield itself, so Im lost? Also, does anyone know if this would conflict with using antimicro (a joytokey or joystick gremlin - like - prgm) as I only need the pitch/yaw (R stick) X/Y axis for the single purpose of the AUTO RECENTERING which it wont do unless emulating an xbox controller, otherwise, I have all other bindings good to go in antimicro and would rather not mess with all that again. BTW, I did try UCR first without any other possible conflicting prgms running, including antimicro, so thats not the issue. I really appreciate any help and DTEA, your awesome and I wish you well on your channel prioritizing - Ill be along for the ride over there too!
@MommaFox343
@MommaFox343 11 месяцев назад
I cant wait to see this mod great job bud. I can see this and future mods in the future turn starfield into basically what star citizen promised but didnt deliver. Like seriously this does have the potential to become a master piece/ loved as much as Skyrim. Especially when you compare it to how much of a mess Skyrim was. Just like how Skyrim and halo reach, and many other games that people said would crash and burn because of the major issues, bugs, lack of features. They went from disasters to iconic master pieces. I believe and can see starfield going through the same thing. But i can also see the modders expediting the process to fix it alot faster tho imo.
@apostolo360
@apostolo360 11 месяцев назад
The ViGEm virtual controller doesnt show up when selecting output devices. Any idea how to fix this issue?
@josephkrynock
@josephkrynock 10 месяцев назад
Reboot entire PC, it showed up for me after I did that.
@apostolo360
@apostolo360 10 месяцев назад
@@josephkrynock thanks a lot. I'll try that next time I'm at it
@ryaramaf1gobshite397
@ryaramaf1gobshite397 11 месяцев назад
Great vid thx Can anyone tell me how to run starfield on my triples?
@revan100290
@revan100290 3 месяца назад
didnt work for me at all wont pick up my controllers
@Whitephoenix1402
@Whitephoenix1402 11 месяцев назад
Thanks! Your take on this method vs x360ce?
@eoconnor2000
@eoconnor2000 11 месяцев назад
I believe this is easier to configure and turn off and on
@Whitephoenix1402
@Whitephoenix1402 11 месяцев назад
Well, x360ce work as a stand alone program. And you only have to click on the controller button/joystick (with a controller image) and map it. The only problem that I have with it in Starfield is that it seems to give in rare occasion ghost inputs when I use mouse and keyboard
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
@@Whitephoenix1402 Yes, I was looking for this. I have had to disable and enable when on the ground or in the cockpit to get x360ce working as it interferes with my mouse.
@Whitephoenix1402
@Whitephoenix1402 11 месяцев назад
I think I find a way, yesterday play through y was a breeze. Link the starfield exe to the 360ce config. This way you don’t have to enable/disable for other games. The ghost input that I had was a joystick problem, I just configured a larger deadzone on my Hotas software (Virpil) not on 360ce and worked like a charm. Make sure you have exclusive input (or something similar) on starfield control preference 💪🏼
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
@@Whitephoenix1402That makes sense, thank you.
@fmuldfhalo8673
@fmuldfhalo8673 11 месяцев назад
ViGEm Bus Driver: Hi this software retired. Any suggestion for another software?
@dmain6735
@dmain6735 11 месяцев назад
Yussss
@lennyshorter197
@lennyshorter197 10 месяцев назад
A lot of work for non computer geeks 😢
@rvs55
@rvs55 11 месяцев назад
But is there a point to setup HOTAS for Starfield? The space part of the game is so laughably basic, to the point it resembles mobile games like Galaxy on Fire. It falls far short of Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen. I think many people were fooled by the trailers as to how immersive space would be. This game is basically just Fallout on multiple worlds, supplemented with an extremely dumbed down space flight model the quality of low rent mobile games. But props to the story and lore though. It's what saved the game from being a complete dud.
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
People like you who tried the game for 10min has no clue. IF you even tried it.
@rvs55
@rvs55 11 месяцев назад
@@lillen141 Another Simpfield. Yes I have the game and 40 hours on it. That's why I call the flying part basic as fuck. It's as laughable as Rogue Squadron. The shipbuilding is fancy-shmancy, yes. But the flying bit is kindergarten level. The game is good when on foot. But when it comes to space, nothing beats ED or SC.
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
@@rvs55 ed and tjat tech demo just suck. Starfield is a 1000 times better. You woud have known that if you ever tried Starfield. Anyway im off playing Starfield. Have fun with nms.
@rvs55
@rvs55 11 месяцев назад
​@@lillen141 NMS sucks. Cartoony crap game. Starfield, as I said, is good only on foot. In space, it's just an unrealistic arcade flight sim. No seamless transitions into the atmosphere. In fact you can't even fly around the planet. Everything's just cutscenes. LOL, and you call that better than ED. What a simp. Typical of the fanbase.
@rvs55
@rvs55 11 месяцев назад
At least the player has a choice of FA off if they don't want airplanes in space. But the main takeaway is at least they get to manually launch the ship, or dock/land the ship. They get to fly inside the planet's atmosphere... or whatever it is they call it if the planet doesn't have an atmosphere... and they can choose to basically land anywhere. That's where Starfield's promised "exploration" bit falls short. Because you can't truly explore a planet if you can't fly over it and land wherever you want. They didn't state it explicitly, but they implied a kind of freedom that did not come with the game. But again I say, I'm not saying the game is complete shite. It's just that one aspect of it, despite it being pretty important. The shipbuilder is actually pretty entertaining. But other than that, the spaceship part of the game is basically meh.
@jetnavigator
@jetnavigator 11 месяцев назад
Haha, what?! Why would you bother. The flight is so limited...
@lillen141
@lillen141 11 месяцев назад
I se you dont play the game 🤣🤣🤣. Go back to fortnite n00b
@SewerShark
@SewerShark 11 месяцев назад
It's much easier to fly with a stick than an XBox controller or a mouse and keyboard. Also, the sick has a longer throw, making finner movement way, way better
@cmdr.kayomin4155
@cmdr.kayomin4155 11 месяцев назад
LMFAO
@troyrarehale2517
@troyrarehale2517 11 месяцев назад
Why the hell do you need a HOTAS for a load screen simulator.
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
You still do space flight, and it is much easier with HOTAS
@vectieba
@vectieba 11 месяцев назад
@@underleft lol
@Nero_1069
@Nero_1069 11 месяцев назад
What a joke this game is. Farming simulator supports hotas.
@HenshinAlliance
@HenshinAlliance 11 месяцев назад
can you help me , i figured the right stick , but i have 2 ! and the acceleration stop befor the end . how can i make it that i can reach max spead ?
@neofitosmihail4272
@neofitosmihail4272 11 месяцев назад
wow someone re-invent america hahahahahaha come on
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