Late ass reply. What have you done 7 months later? I bought the 50 as my first amp, but I'm really considering to start getting into pedals, and the lack of an FX loop on the 50 has me thinking I should sell it and get a 100, or maybe even a different amp all together.
@@NorHeadHunter But, I thought he just said in the video that the 50 EX DOESN'T come with the effects loop?? Asking not out of sarcasm, but because I'm trying to decide between 50 EX and 100. Thanks
@@kajikanna I looked it up and it doesn't come with an effects loop like I thought, weird. It just adds support for the footswitch. The price is almost the same as the 100 from where I buy my gear too.
@@NorHeadHunter @kajikanna The 50 ex has a line out so I think you can run that to the looper and run the looper output to the aux in. That way you could use the looper and still turn your guitar volume up, etc and that should work. You would need a 1/4" to 1/8" connector but they are available. Honestly, I have a looper, I never use it...they suck to get the timing right.
Okay, I did something similar with my Donner Circle Looper. I have the output of the pedal board going into the effects loop return, which is placed after the preamp/EQ of the Katana but before the effects. This way I bypass the Katana preamp which I don't care for, but I can still use all the onboard effects. This all, of course, goes into the power amp, etc. I take the line out, which has the guitar and all the effects on it and run it to the looper input so I can still record guitar loops. Then I take the output of the looper and put it to the Katana aux input. So, it is very similar to your setup. My problem is that with this setup, the audio that I get out of the looper is very low, even with the level and the dB maxed out. Before, when I had the output of the looper directly into the amp input, the audio level was fine. With this current setup, it's so low that it is usually drowned out by the guitar. So I am curious if you have any audio level issues with your looper connected in this fashion? I would not think there would be any reason for the line out or especially the aux in to be suppressed somehow. That input it supposed to be for plugging in an MP3 player or some such device. So does this setup work for you?
I know people are claiming that they'd go with the 100 watt all day. For people with a budget like me and can't afford anything higher, the katana 50 is def worth it.
Problem with the 50 is that the more you use it, the more you'll realise how limiting it is. For example, the fact that you can't change tone while looping and there's not a lot of presets as well as the boss footswitch not being compatible Where I live, the 50w is €250 and the 100w is €375. So it'd be way better to just invest in the 100w straight away, rather than buying the 50w, then eventually upgrading to the 100w.
@@sirbaguette8378 Hey, where I live, the 50 costs around 335$ and the 100 around 520$, would you still recomend going with the 100? Since the 50 is out of stock, should I save up for the 100? I don´t really care about tone switch or looping, at the most I would like wah.
I have both. They are both great amps. The 50 inspired me more than my Marshall stack when I heard the built in effects. I was blown away that I could have one guitar and one $200 amp, and make such incredible sounds without any pedals. It's worth getting the 50 and messing with the knobs until you know the settings in and out, because it's loud, sounds great, and is so versatile.
^^ Everything I said about the 50w also applies to the 100w. If you are gigging, you might want the 100. If you are just a bedroom warrior, you'll be more than happy with either of them.
Terrific explanation of how the Katana 50 MKII would work with a Looper Pedal, and how the Katana MKII 100 would work with one. More so, the way you explained how the Effects Send/Return actually works was outstanding. Thank you! Good Job!
For your viewers trying to decide between the 50 and 100, I can offer my experience. I played the 50 for four years and loved it. I did not need the power of the 100, but i wanted the effects loop and the capabilities of the GA-FC foot controller. I absolutely love both, and should have made the upgrade sooner. Aside form the added features that most videos mention, I think that the 100 actually sounds better than the 50....and quite noticeably so.
There is one sentence that is very important that is missing: "Make sure the channel that goes to the loop has send and return ON". There is one switch that must be turned "on", otherwise it would not work. I was so frustrated there was nobody mentioned this. I searched every where no explanation about it. I was ready to bring it to the service center since I thought mine was damaged. Thank you very much Chief and Cheers from Indonesia. (whoopy dooper loop or something like that. 😃 )
Hahaha yeah. I recently bought the RC-1, got it home and could not get the Effects loop to work for love or money. Thankfully an old Reddit post pointed me towards checking with Boss Tone Studio. Like yourself, I discovered it was set to off on each channel.
I’ve had my katana 100 for a year now and have been lazy up to this point in terms of learning how to use all of its features, I’ve just used it as an amp with the effects that came already built in. You’ve provided tons of amazing information in your videos, thank you! Woopdie dooper loop 🤘🏼
I came here for the looper info. I happen to have bought a Katana 100 MK2 recently, and because there was a lot of helpful information in this video, presented in a clear and friendly fashion..... I hit the subscribe button 😁
Whoop d dooper loop. What a well done explanation. I knew literally everything that was presented here already, and still enjoyed it enough to watch to the end.
I bypassed this looper limitation on Katana 50 using this method, which is not THAT practical, but It's useful if you don't want to use a PC or anything else beyond the guitar's gear. I have a simple pedalboard (distortion, chorus and reverb/delay) and I use this pedalboard with the Looper on the very end of it, and I use an 6.35mm to 3.5mm jack adapter and plug that line of effects on the 3.5mm Aux In of Katana. Doing this I can use my pedalboard to generate an specific tone and record the looper sesson, and then using another 6.35mm cable I do plug my guitar on the Katana input to use its tone. The drawback of doing this is that you need to switch the 6.35mm jack cable on the guitar everytime you want to record another loop session to play over it and sometimes is kinda annoying to switch cables, but it's doable.
Whoopie Doopa Loop. I just picked up a Katana 100 Artist a few weeks ago, picked up my Boss RC-5 looper today and learned a ton from you today. I understand more about the amp than I did before. You are awesome! Cheers
Thanks for info on the "power amp in " input on the Mk2 50w I can now use the looper for practice sessions without the effects on the amp. Great explanation .
Whoop dedooper loop! Thanks for sharing - I have the 100/212 mkII and a boss RC500 looper. I can now figure out the looper/amp connections, but I can't really figure out how to use my looper very well.
I struggled a little connecting my BOSS Looper RC-20 XL to my Katana, and this video helped me to connect it correctly. As always a perfect instruction video paired with super teacher skills. No unnecessary NERD talking, no boring elevator voice ;-). Many thanks. I appreciate this channel very much. My wife wants to know which shampoo you're using for your perfect fluffy hair. But I told her, this is about guys stuff. No Shampoos, no conditioners, just guitars. ;-)
I’m a born again musician on guitar 🎸 as of two years ago-originally a sax player-and just bought the 50 as an upgrade to my Marshall 15 watt solid state amp Ive been playing until now. I have a looper, a tube screamer, and that’s it. Since I’m still keeping things pretty basic as I figure out the Boss and what pedals I’m going to buy, it works out fine for now with the only effect difference I can control between loop overdubs being the tube screamer. I plan to build a full on pedal board, but until then I can do great with the Katana’s big library off effects I don’t really know yet. Even just reverb, I didn’t know the difference in the types until I tried each on the Katana.
I've had my katana 50mk2 for a year or so. I play really only acoustic guitar, and I'm trying to get into looping. So for me my 50mk2 is good because i only need my acoustic clean basically 😊 Thank you for this useful video!
I am so glad that the katana MK2 100w was there when I finally decided I needed a new amp after 20 years of using the same crappy amp. Perfect and had more headroom than the 50 which I actually bought first and quickly exchanged.
Same deal. I actually picked up the Katana MK2 50w first. Later to realize what benefits the 100W has over the 50W model, so I exchanged it a few days later. No regrets!
I recently bought a RC-5 BOSS and was struggling with how to connect it to my LINE 6 FLEXTONE III. Your video offers the simplest explanation I've seen. Many thanks!
I have had my MKII combo for about 2 weeks I was attracted to this amp for a lot of reasons none of which have disappointed. What was a very pleasant surprise was how good it sounded at half a watt perfect for home. Thanks for the heads up on the settings in tone lab to consider. Nice video first one i've watched and you have a new subscriber.
My choice would have been the 100 if my budget allowed it, but went for the MKII 50. Was not as wowed at first, but now that I have figured out Tone Control Studio and began to learn the amp I can't wait to plug in and play every day. Whoop de dooper looper.
Thank you for making this video. I was actually slightly torn between the 50 and 100. Now knowing all this plus the fact that the 50 doesn't have an fx loop; I'm putting in my order for the 100(2x12). Whoopdie dooper looper
I wish I would have found this video a few weeks ago. I was researching whoop-dee-doo loopers and I came to the same conclusions independently. What I haven’t quite figured out is where the difference in practical usage comes up between the Katana Head 100 and the Katana-100 Combo when it comes to the MIDI input. I would love to see a bit more about that.
I love my Katana 50 MKII and I'm still learning a lot! I also need to dig more into the Katana Tone Studio. This video was great and awesome info thank you Andy! You just won a Whoopdeedooperloop 🤘😄
Thank you for making this video, I had my looper hooked up wrong. I have the Katana 100 I absolutely love this amp, still learning new stuff with it, great video!!!
Dude!! you are the man!!! I have watched several videos about looping and signal chain. you are the only one I understand. thanks for helping a novice newbie.🤘
Whoopty dooper loop 😀Great explanation, as someone who has played and taught guitar for 40 years+ - but never used a looper - this advice was exactly what I was looking for - excellent!
I just got a ToneX pedal and I've been trying to figure out the best way to use it with my Katana 100w Mk2. THIS SOLVED IT, thanks!!! Whoopdie Dooper Loop!
Incredible video, I bought a katana 50 MK I a couple years ago but didn't use it because I didn't have time to learn the guitar. Now that I do, and I was looking for info on looper pedals, I bumped into your video and pretty much solved every possible question I had. Thank you so much!!
Whoop-de-dooper loop! This was an excellent explanation! This was exactly what I was looking for... I also discovered that when using my Katana 50, a couple pedals inserted before the looper can be nice too, especially if I just want to be modifying my sound with an additional effect: Like going from a clean sound with just reverb and/or delay to an overdriven sound for a solo boost.
This video was absolutely fantastic. Not just for content, but you also structured it very simply and clearly. Like, clear intro, explaining what you'll talk about, and then over delivering. Wonderful video! Glad I picked up the 100. Whoop-de-dooper loop!
I literally just bought a few hours ago a BOSS Katana 50W and an RC-1. But yes, stupid that I am, instead of doing my research before, I paid twice for it! Came home, tested it out, confirmed what you just said, well, went back to GC with the box opened and then bought the 100W! But I am happy now!! So, I liked your video, I subscribed to your channel and I appreciate your support!!
You can change effects over your loop without effecting the loop with the katana 50 IF you use headphones or a seperate speaker though which is pretty cool. You also need 3 guitar cables
@TheGuitarGeek: great video and explanation! PLEASE make a video for explanation about Effect Loop Mode: Series and Parallel and how to use them. Thank you.
Dam i didn't know someone actually made a vodeo for what exactly i needed. Haha and i was over here watching 10 videos with no same amp or pedal or problems. Thank u!
Well prior to watching this video, I had already bought the MK2 50. Which for all intents and purposes is a really great amp. However not having played a ton of electric guitar Mostly acoustic I out grew the amp in 6 months as it was the only amp in my arsenal. I just went out bought the mk2 100 for 2 reasons. 1 it loops through the effects loop which this video very nicely explains. And 2 it’s ability to stereo with another MK2 100. Which you spoke about in other video. All is to say very sound advice. Spend the extra $$ and just buy a Katana MK2 100
Whoopty Dooper Loop 👍 Been thinking for a while about getting the Katana 50 but after stumbling across this video while scrolling it would definitely be better to get the 100. 2 reasons,1st reason is it would be loud enough to rock with other musicians instead of hauling around my half stack. 2nd of course would be the FX Loop. Im so thankful 🙏 I'm in the position to be able to choose and i hope that other people that would love to have the 100 will be able to get one as well! Thanks for posting and helping me make a decision 🤘
You've mentioned this in at least one other video, but the Katana 100 supports the GA-FC footswitch while the Katana 50 does not; another reason to go with the 100.
Whoop-dee-dooper loop! (Spelling? Lol). Thanks for the great video and information. I look forward to watching more of your videos and learning all about my Boss Katana 100 and other gear!
Whoop DeDooper Loop! Thanks for the video, it was/is quite heavy on teaching how to use a looper pedal on the Katana 100, unfortunately (or fortunately in my case) I bought the Katana II 50 Watt. It's too bad that I don't have the 100, but I've found the 50 to produce plenty of heart pounding output. On my pedal board (at the very end) I do have my TC Ditto pedal. In my setup, I get the full features from my Katana, as well as the features from my pedal board - with Overdrive, Equalizer, Compressor and Ultra Metal pedals - my Katana 50 Watt sends out mind blowing sound that fills any of the places that I've played (not that I've played at too many places - yet, but I have high hopes to make the very best of what I have and Rock The Place Out!!! Thanks again! -GC
You have a great channel, sir! I don't know why it took me so long to subscribe, but I did. Thanks for the clear, concise how to videos. Ram lama ding dong, I mean, whoop dee dooper loop!
Whoopdee Dooper Looper! I’d love to hear an explanation of what series vs parallel means in the effects loop in the Katana 100 MkII. Parallel to what? A block diagram would be really helpful. This was an excellent video, so now I’m subscribed!
I just bought a Katana 100 and sold my 50. If I had known about the FX Loop, I would have chosen the 100 originally. Luckily I sold it for the price I bought it though!
At last! A video showing what it says it will, by a normal guy, speaking complete sentences and not three-letter-acronyms! (TLA's....😉).....just to show me how smart he is. Thankyou. I do belive you have helped sway my decision for my next amplifier. Oh, I subscribed too. 👍 Thank you.
@@TheGuitarGeek Three Letter Acronyms, yes. I like yours also. Acronyms have, similar to the word, "like", got abused, like..... It's ironic cynicism I guess.... I once went on a technical writing course, given by a professor from Cardiff University and he opened with telling us, "No TLA's will be used in this lesson". Of course, somebody had to ask the question on everybody's lips! Most documents/lessons, are given by folk who already fully understand how "it" works and they are giving instruction to others, who do not. We were instructed to always lecture, or write in such a way that your audience speaks English as a second language and not to show off. It sunk in. I do not recall you being there alongside me back in 1985, but swear that somehow you received the same message also! Thanks!
Whoop-e-loop-a-doop I have a katana 50 which my son has pretty much taken over. I was thinking of getting another amp and have been considering and researching the different katana kompetitors… I keep coming back to katana and I think I will now opt for the 100!
I had the Katana Air, but missed using my looper with effects as I'd traded a Marshall practise amp plus Boss Chorus and Blues Driver pedals in for it. I then traded the Air in for the 100 MkII and can now have a clean chorus sound for rhythm and I like a crunchy driven sound for leads. So I guess I'm back where I started, and I've lost money, but it's great fun anyway!! Whoopdedooperloop!
I already brought a one of these mighty Boss Katana 50watt Mk 2s which just arrived yesterday and the sounds amazing just with the presets even trying to play with three fingers due to a nasty index finger fingernail injury🤕 Can't wait to get a looper now. Just have to decide which one😝Great video can't wait to check out others now as a new subscriber ♥️🎸🇦🇺
Ive bought 3 Katana 50’s over time, thought at first I had a bad one because of the noise. Brought it back and it Turned out there was no problem, they were just noisy. Got refunded and went on. This past year, I was going to buy the 100, got down to my music store and they only had the 50. The sales guy was not that savy and I ended up trying the new 50. The music store called me (good for them) they did have a 100, and I went back for that, paid the extra $100, and was pleasantly surprised by the tone quality. The 100 has a different speaker, and it is quieter at idle. I bought another 100 for the stereo effect. I dont think I can ever go back. I dont even use my pedal board just the GA-FC foot controller.
I have wasted sooo many hours looking for the information you provide in THIS tutorial. There are infinite USLESS videos about the topic by guys who can complicate a tutorial on how to wind a watch. USELESS! But here, you dummy down the verbals to my level AND you demonstrate. I have the Katana Mk2 50. I'm OLD and I'm finding the Amp VERY difficult to use. so I'm grateful to you for this show, I will be referring to all your other Katana vids in days ahead to see if I can't capitalize upon the potential offered by my puzzling amplifier.
Loopty doopty doo and all that stuff. Yes I did watch this one to the end and a few others of yours and I did Subscribe. You helped me prove my Sweetwater Rep wrong because I emailed him asking if the 'power amp in' jack would bypass the Katana effects and serve as a FRFR speaker because I have the Boss GT-1 and GT-100 pedal boards and I couldn't set my tones right using my little Marshall practice amp. He told me no and that I should get a Headrush. But the Headrush is an 8" speaker and very directional. You have to be directly in front of it to hear it right or put it across the room from you. So I did a little research myself and now I know the Katana is what I want.
Whoop di dooper loop! awesome! Extremely helpful video. I am new to guitar but I already bought the Katana 50 haha! No pedals yet just using the onboard effects but now I know that I can get pedals one day. Thanks
You can change effects over your loop without effecting the loop with the katana 50 IF you use headphones or a seperate speaker though which is pretty cool. You also need 3 guitar cables
Hi there thanks for the video. I have a Vox AC 10 and A Katana 50 and I use a stereo looper (Boomerang). I use a lot of strymon pedals for ambient guitar in Stereo so the Katana 50 is more then enough to pair with my small Vox.
Yeah I will try it again maybe try it through the tone studio but everyone is else is saying u can only do it on clean or u need to run it through another speaker or gotta mod the katana 50 to have an effect loop to the speaker.